Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation by Being

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    2008.08.23 07:00 - Appreciate the Presence of Appearance as a Presentation by Being


    Pema Pera: I suggested to focus lightly on the sentence:
    Pema Pera: appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being
    Pema Pera: the funny thing about that sentence is that you can best read it backwards
    Pema Pera: there is Being
    Pema Pera: which presents
    Pema Pera: what does it present?
    Pema Pera: appearance, all that appears
    Pema Pera: what do we know about appearance, directly, empirically
    Pema Pera: only that it is presence
    Pema Pera: *present
    Pema Pera: so what can we appreciate?
    Pema Pera: ultimately only the presence of appearance
    Pema Pera: the rest is added theory
    Pema Pera: encrusted thoughts
    Pema Pera: the pure core of what is is the presence of appearance
    Pema Pera: presented by Being

    2008.08.25 07:00 - Appreciating APAPB

    The movie analogy.... 

    Pema Pera: when you watch a movie (a favorite analogy of mine) you can see enormous distance in a landscape
    Adams Rubble: Our senses can't perceive the larger entity
    Pema Pera: but it is all at the same place on the screen
    Pema Pera: the appearance of senses occur with the "larger" entity
    Pema Pera: that is also the smallest
    doug Sosa: very interesting. need to mull that. being is the screen?
    Pema Pera: Being is every point
    Pema Pera: completely
    Pema Pera: and also All
    Pema Pera: in the widest sense
    Pema Pera: perhaps we can go back to that sentence?
    Pema Pera: APAPB for short :)
    Pema Pera: *any* appearance is presented by Being
    doug Sosa: so by all we mean, not just "this Screen" bu all screens, all projectors, all viewwers, all movie makers?
    Pema Pera: everything -- without looking at it as things
    Pema Pera: All is a whole -- and All is completely there in every (seeming) part
    doug Sosa: so why does it still seem "local"?
    Pema Pera: that is part of a presentation, an appearance
    Pema Pera: anything can appear, also the sense of local
    Pema Pera: without being less fully Being
    Pema Pera: Being is not limited by its appearing local
    doug Sosa: got it. glad i asked.
    Pema Pera: but this is something to be explored
    Pema Pera: accepted only temporarily as a hypothesis to be tested
    Pema Pera: for example through the APAPB sentence
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'm glad you asked, too, though i really really don't understand the answer.


    Doug's experience of APAPB

    doug Sosa: hm. This sentece is something to grow into, and out of, at the same time. The core for me (at the moment, my coffee still sitting there) is that being presents and this presentation manifests as appearance.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: actually...that makes the answer make more sense to me...thank you, Cal.
    doug Sosa: Ad this is amazing (appreciation).
    doug Sosa: and multi, infinitiely rich and complex.
    Caledonia Heron: :)
    doug Sosa: yet unitary.
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: (unitary is key!)
    doug Sosa: and so the unity of being and the multiplicity of appearnaces kind of oscillate i experience.
    Pema Pera: yes, and perhaps they can even be present fully, simultaneously
    doug Sosa: the sentence forces me to be less active and the presentations to be more active.
    doug Sosa: I shift from constructing to receiving.

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