How Has Your Belief in Normal Reality Changed?

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    from: 2008.09.30 01:00 - Detox 


    Pema Pera: I just got this idea that perhaps the most important question would not be "what have you learned about Being" or even "about yourself" as such but rather something like - how has your belief in normal reality changed?
    Pema Pera: So instead of taking "Being" or whatever type of practice as a "belief" take the way we ordinarily look at the world as a "belief"
    Pema Pera: and ask whether our "belief" in that strange sect called "ordinary reality believers" has changed
    Pema Pera: Perhaps PaB is a kind of detox operation
    Pema Pera: you know, there are groups dedicated to get people OUT of sects
    Pema Pera: rescuing them from the tentacles of greedy sect members
    Pema Pera: so if we start from what IS, then the ordinary mind set is a rather dangerous, pernicious kind of sect attitude
    Pema Pera: so can PaB help us to escape?
    Quel Karillion: well, you could kind of think the ordinary mind as a sect that encompasses almost all humans.
    Pema Pera: sure, but quantity does not guarantee anything about quality
    Pema Pera: they can all be equally mistaken . . . .
    Quel Karillion: oh, that's not what I'm pointing at :)
    Umbriel Levenque: wonder 'escape' is quite a thing I'm looking for...
    Pema Pera: you mean it's contagious :-)
    Pema Pera: <= Fael
    Quel Karillion: well, that too but ...
    Pema Pera: not escape from where we are, but from where we are asked to think we are, if you see what I mean, Umbriel
    Quel Karillion: I was mostly trying to point out that it's a sect but so widespread it's not recognised as one.
    Pema Pera: escape from ordinary ideas
    Pema Pera: ah, yes, sure, Quel, certainly!
    Quel Karillion: too big :)
    Quel Karillion: even incohesive :)
    Pema Pera: So we can play Being's advocate, as Devil's advocate against almost anyone's "sane" mindset
    Quel Karillion: kind of an antisect in some ways

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