Starting at the End

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    sophia Placebo: can you explain starting at the end point ? i read some logs discussing it but i didnt get it really
    Pema Pera: in general, many forms of spiritual practice start with the notion that we are missing something, and that we have to work hard to find something
    Pema Pera: to reach a form of enlightenment, or insight, or realization
    Pema Pera: and in many ways, such an approach can be very inspiring
    Pema Pera: however, the Play as Being approach is different
    Pema Pera: Starting with Being is a kind of focus on what is there already
    Pema Pera: with Being, as always there, as a kind of resource
    Pema Pera: so in that sense there is no path that we have to traverse, nothing to search for or reach for
    Pema Pera: so you could say "we are already at the end of the path"
    Pema Pera: and the challenge is then to express that kind of attitude
    Pema Pera: to celebrate, rather than to search
    sophia Placebo: hmm
    sophia Placebo: so i can celebrate the searching urge too no ?
    Pema Pera: oh sure! And search for ways to celebrate as well -- it is more a difference in orientation than in action
    sophia Placebo: ok i get it now , thank you
    Bertram Jacobus: isn´t the dsog chen approach similar pema ?
    Pema Pera: and besides, that is my interpretation; if others have other ones, that's fine too, and I'd be happy to hear and learn from them
    Pema Pera: yes, it is Bertram, and zo is zen, and zo is Hinduist Advaita Vedanta as well as various other approaches in other religions

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