2008.10.23 19:00 - Being as cuddling

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    The guardian for this meeting was Sylectra Darwin and the comments are hers.


    Geo Netizen: Hellos 3D, Fael, Sylectra Adelene. .......

    Fael Illyar: Hi Geo :)

    Fael Illyar: oh, others are here too

    Fael Illyar: Hi Syl :)

    Fael Illyar: slow rezzing :)

    Adelene Dawner: Come sit over here, Geo, while you can still get to the cushions. ^.^

    Sylectra Darwin: hi!

    Adelene Dawner: Hi Syl ^.^

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles..pretty sure that she's telegraphed that thought to Adelene.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: scootch in if ya want, Sylectra?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: We came with intent to huddle.

    Threedee Shepherd: cuddle huddle

    Sylectra Darwin: thanks Corvi, but I can barely see where people are sitting at the moment.


    I was on a laptop and experiencing terrible lag.

    Adelene Dawner definitely needs to get that cuddle couch thing put together. ^.^

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.

    Geo Netizen: :))

    Sylectra Darwin: Hi Fael!

    Geo Netizen: Hi Neela

    Fael Illyar: rehi Neela :)

    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Syl and Geo

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: scootch in one, Neela

    Neela Blaisdale: Here?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmhmm

    Threedee Shepherd: The oneness of cuddleBeing

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.

    Neela Blaisdale: :)

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Neela Blaisdale: Being as Cuddling

    Fael Illyar grins at the center of cuddleBeing.

    Geo Netizen: Excellent idea

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: heheheh

    Neela Blaisdale: So Geo and Syl understand, we are all cuddling with our lions just before we came here

    Fael Illyar: Yes, continuation :)

    Geo Netizen: I gathered that ... :)


    ThreeDee advanced an idea that I suspect has a lot of truth, based on my own SL experiences.

    Threedee Shepherd: I talked about identifying with one's AV at the workshop I attended last weekend at Phila. I think it is significant to be in physical contact as Avs.

    Fael Illyar: it is, yes

    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it is.

    Adelene Dawner: mmhmm

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's funny, but some folks really see that...and some don't really.

    Adelene Dawner: And interesting how the avs just... overlap.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

    Sylectra Darwin: Lions are cool.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmhmm

    Fael Illyar: well, that's the limit of SL tech :)

    Adelene Dawner chuckles.

    Fael Illyar wonders if she'd fit in better as a dragon.

    Adelene Dawner: I dunno, Fa, I like it. It doesn't feel limiting to me.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: try it?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.

    Sylectra Darwin: would you have to be a dragonlet to fit in the pavilion?

      Fael donned a beautiful purple dragon avatar.


    Adelene Dawner: oo, fae dragon. Love those. ^.^

    Fael Illyar: that's my dragon style :)

    Sylectra Darwin: very pretty purple dragon!

    Threedee Shepherd: Yep, I have one of those in spectrum colors

    Fael Illyar: I've that too :)

    Threedee Shepherd: :)

    Neela Blaisdale wonders what it's like to be an animal

    Threedee Shepherd: freeing

    Adelene Dawner: We'll have to take you to Grendel's sometime so you can find out.

      Grendel's Children is a store in SL where many animal avatars can be found. Most of us at this gathering have been there and purchased avatars.

    Adelene Dawner: Any ideas what you'd like to be?

    Sylectra Darwin: Grendels is where I got the beetle avatar.

    Neela Blaisdale: I like the cats, cheetah?

    Adelene Dawner: They have a cheetah, I think. Or is it a leopard?

    Fael Illyar: my dragon is from Grendel's as well

    Sylectra Darwin: There are many cats to choose from.

    Adelene Dawner licks Corvi. ^.^

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Grendel's is lovely.

    Sylectra Darwin: From Grendel's I also have a butterfly, some goldfish, and a llama.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire rubs her face and giggles.

    Sylectra Darwin: The llama is a lot of fun.


    Geo seized upon the idea that it can be freeing to wear different types of avatars, like lions, insects, and teddy bears.

    Geo Netizen: Backing up … Adelene …. freeing … care to expand on that please?

    Geo Netizen: How so?

    Sylectra Darwin: sorry, lag is making it hard to type.

    Neela Blaisdale: I don't remeber what 3D looks like as a non lion, but I think I've seen you that way

    Adelene Dawner: Um... ask someone who's ever identified as human. ^.^

    Sylectra Darwin: Geo, who are you asking?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at the camera.

    Threedee Shepherd: I said that :) (perhaps too) I look at and am the lion and lose the immediate tendency towards making human assumptions, especially about myself

    Geo Netizen: I was asking Adelene but anyone ... what is freeing?

    Geo Netizen: About being an animal ...

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I have Crow..

    Fael Illyar is not quite certain she's human in SL even normally.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: you and I talked about it.

    Neela Blaisdale: Ade, have you ever had a human av?

    Sylectra Darwin: I find it freeing because animals are basically genderless.

    Geo Netizen: O .....

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Crow isn't really male or female...

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: sometimes one, sometimes the other.

    Adelene Dawner: I dunno, Three's mane looks gender-y to me...

    Neela Blaisdale: although 3 is a male lion and Ade female

    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins.

    Geo Netizen: Particularly if you concatenate

    Corvuscorva Nightfire tosses the word and a pillow back at Geo.

    Adelene Dawner: But yes, being able to be neutral with regard to that is another variation of the same freedom.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes..not all animals are genderless...but some are.

    Geo Netizen: Aren’t felines very feminine?

    Neela Blaisdale: not 3

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: no

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: not 3

    Adelene Dawner: It helps the 'dropping what we have' show through more.

    Bell: *ding*

    Neela Blaisdale: and some birds will have a gendered appearance

    Threedee Shepherd: That's a common assumption, but I think a hunting cheetah of any sex is hardly "feminine"

    Threedee Shepherd: *is

    Neela Blaisdale: But for the lions, only the females hunt

    Geo Netizen: Love that purrrrrr ....

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.

    Adelene Dawner: Hi, Nos ^.^

    Neela Blaisdale: then they bring the catch to the male for the first rights.


    Nostrum Forder arrived at the Pavilion and took a seat. Nos wore a spiky lobster/alien looking avatar.

    Threedee Shepherd: Hi Nos

    Fael Illyar: Hi Nostrum :)

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Nostrum!

    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Nos

    Geo Netizen: Hey Nos

    Nostrum Forder: 'evening, folks

    Sylectra Darwin: smiles

    Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.

    Adelene Dawner: I'd say 'join the cuddle' but you are spiky!

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: you are amazing!

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: wow!

    Geo Netizen: So … why is 3d’s av considered masculine?

    Sylectra Darwin gigges

    Neela Blaisdale: part human,part animal?

    Nostrum Forder: yeah, I'm a little prickly tonight.

    Fael Illyar: yes, great AV, Nostrum :)

    Nostrum Forder: ty

    Neela Blaisdale: because the male lions have the large manes, females like Ade, don't

    Geo Netizen: I thought hair was a female thing? lol

    Fael Illyar: speaking of which I didn't remember to really look at Syl yet. Very nice, Syl :)

    Adelene Dawner: Female lions do sometimes have a little bit of a mane though. I've been tempted to make one appropriate to a females for this av.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles..meet the lions where they are.

    Sylectra Darwin: Nos, we're talking about how animal avvies can be freeing for various reasons, but one of them is that they seem genderless a lot of the time

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: not where people are...

    Sylectra Darwin: thanks Fael :)

    Nostrum Forder: Well... I have several animal AVs.

    Nostrum Forder: My tiger AV is generally responded to as feminine

    Nostrum Forder: whereas my raven AV is typically understood to be masculine

    Fael Illyar ponders how she'd be taken currently.

    Adelene Dawner: odd, with the tiger, they're usually pretty firmly considered masculine.

    Threedee Shepherd: So, here is an interesting question: Buddhist practice and dharma suggests not getting too attached to anything. Yet, by now I am *attached* to this Lion Av in a way that makes it feel "funny" to think of coming to PaB as my human Av. Is this a dangerous attachment?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire scritches his ears.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'm attached to the lion too.

    Sylectra Darwin: Dangerous? Or maybe just educational for you?

    Neela Blaisdale: :)

    Nostrum Forder: some of my attachments are quite dangerous.

    Nostrum Forder: and some of them are entertaining.

    Sylectra Darwin: Maybe you are just not done exploring that dynamic yet.

    Threedee Shepherd: yes, Nos, especially those fanged skulls hanging from your headdress ;)

    Adelene Dawner: I don't think it is, Three. When I had the other av, it was 'right' and would have felt funny to wear another av as the default. When it was time to change I did - the old av no longer felt 'right' and so I don't wear it any more.

    Fael Illyar: come to think of it, I had slight reluctance switching to this dragon but ... it was gone after switching.

    Geo Netizen: I’ve gotta run … nice seeing everyone …. will miss the group ….a….snuggle ..:)

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh!

    Fael Illyar: See you later Geo :)

    Threedee Shepherd: night Geo

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Geo.

    Neela Blaisdale: Bye Geo

    Adelene Dawner purrs at Geo. "Cya later."

    Sylectra Darwin: night, Geo!

    Geo Netizen: Bye

    Fael Illyar: who's the guardian today?

    Sylectra Darwin: me.

    Fael Illyar: ah, you probably took a snapshot already then :)

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Sylectra Darwin: I can't today, unfortunately.

    Threedee Shepherd: As an Av, especially an animal, I broadcast that I am PlayingAtBeing, whereas in RL, all being is playing or acting as the case may be, but that is not readily admitted.

    Fael Illyar: ok, I'll email you the one I took then.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: mm

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes

    Adelene Dawner: o.O

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: a mnemonic with power.

    Nostrum Forder: I tend to think of Avatars in SL as an extension of clothing.

    Nostrum Forder: In RL, I choose the clothes to fit the situation and the mood

    Sylectra Darwin: I am double booked tonight so I am at a Sherlock Holmes gathering on my laptop.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire looks at her clothing.

    Sylectra Darwin: that would be good, Fael, thanks!

    Adelene Dawner: Hi Steve! Join the cuddle. ^.^

      Stevenaia joined the party.

    Sylectra Darwin: welcome Steven.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Steve :)

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hiya!

    Nostrum Forder: In SL, I can not only do that with clothing, I can do it with my entire appearance.

    Threedee Shepherd: hi steve

    stevenaia Michinaga: hehe, careful what you ask for

    Nostrum Forder: Hi, Steve

    stevenaia Michinaga: cuddle is my middle name

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: come on in!

    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Steve

    stevenaia Michinaga: hi Nos, is there a Pinkey group?

    Fael Illyar is quite Pinkey, no?

    Nostrum Forder: hehe

    stevenaia Michinaga: everyone is still rezzing, Hi Fael

    Nostrum Forder: I'm still wearing the brain-in-a-vat group tag

    Sylectra Darwin: what's that from?

    Nostrum Forder: Happy Clam's business side

    Nostrum Forder: it's new

    Nostrum Forder: but I'll show my true loyalties here. :)


    Nostrum changed his tag to read “Sylectra's Nostrum Forder” - very sweet! Of course I also wore my matching “Nostrum's” tag.

    stevenaia Michinaga: there is a cartoon in the States called Pinkey and the Brain, about two lab rats

    Sylectra Darwin: Oh, awww

    Sylectra Darwin: thanks Nossie.

    Sylectra Darwin: I love Pinkie and the Brain!

    Nostrum Forder: Love talking about AVs

    Stevenaia Michinaga: I don't see Sylectra yet

    Nostrum Forder: The very first conversation I had with Syl, I showed her a bunch of mine.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire shifts restlessly.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but happily

    Bell: *ding*

    Adelene Dawner: So long as it's happily, Cor. ^.^

    stevenaia Michinaga: how does the bell speak without Ade?

    Sylectra Darwin: Steven, I will do a rebake for you.

    Nostrum Forder: Scripted object

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: can be difficult to stay in one place with the "sit anywhere" ao piece

    stevenaia Michinaga: oh seems I'm not seeing many people

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Nostrum Forder: The new client software has some serious issues

    stevenaia Michinaga: rebaking, did that do anything?

    Sylectra Darwin: give it time, I guess.

    Neela Blaisdale: yes tonight its hard to move around

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: nice, Steve

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: perfect

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Sylectra Darwin: Well you would be he judge of that :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: prefer furry things at my feet

    Threedee Shepherd: .

    Adelene Dawner licks Steve's nearer foot, then grimaces. Stinky. ^.^

    Fael Illyar is not quite furry though.

    Threedee Shepherd: So are dragons weighty because they have scales?

    stevenaia Michinaga: scales, fur.. whatever , as long as you have claws and sandpapaer tongue

    Sylectra Darwin: Not in SL!


    Nostrum set herself on fire.


    Adelene Dawner: Eep! No fire! Fur is flammable!

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: me tosses paper at 3D

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: too funny.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Neela Blaisdale: Can't see Ade at all!

    Nostrum Forder: I'm flammable.

    Adelene Dawner: I'm under Fael, next to Three... I'm in here...

    Fael Illyar folds her wings.

    Threedee Shepherd: You are also imflammable, which is an interesting use of words.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    stevenaia Michinaga: take a pic for the log, Sylectra

    Sylectra Darwin: I can't, not tonight.

    Nostrum Forder: I'm just a hunka hunka burnin' love.

    Sylectra Darwin: I am on a laptop and the lag is terrible.

    Neela Blaisdale: Maybe eventually we'll all morph into animals

    Sylectra Darwin: That would be nice.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Fael Illyar smiles

    Fael Illyar: Hi Claire :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Clair

    Claire Beltran: Hello, everyone! ^-^/

    Sylectra Darwin: Wow, Nos!

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Claire!

    Threedee Shepherd: Hi Clair

    Neela Blaisdale: Hi Clair

    Claire Beltran: I can't stay, gotta run!

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: wow...Nostrum.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: you are on fire!

    Sylectra Darwin: Ah well, nice to see you Claire.

    Nostrum Forder: It's Syl's fault. I always heat up near her.

    Sylectra Darwin: hehe

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins at the two.

    Sylectra Darwin: So sweet.

    Nostrum Forder: wow

    Nostrum Forder: nice lions

    Corvuscorva Nightfire is pleased that Nos is not so prickly.

    Neela Blaisdale: :)

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^


    Nos shapeshifted into what appeared to be a small boy.

    Sylectra Darwin: Is that a child av?

    Fael Illyar is somehow sure she's seen Nostrum's name somewhere before as well... outside PaB that is.

    Nostrum Forder: yes

    Nostrum Forder: this is "boy Nostrum stuck in Hunter S Thompson fandom"

    Nostrum Forder: Fael - I do light shows for Happy Clam Island, I play live guitar, I built stuff, I'm a hobo, and a member of the Arbor Group

    stevenaia Michinaga: I got a couple of good shots... you ok with that for log?

    Sylectra Darwin: Sure, Steven, thanks.

    Nostrum Forder: and, unfortunately for my bank account, I currently pay tier for about half of Blanda sim.

    Nostrum Forder shakes his head.

    Sylectra Darwin: but you have some amazing creations there.

    Fael Illyar: Well, that's life :) Money is there to be used for things that matter to you :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: I'm on the free homeless plan until Ade sets me up with some guardian plot

    Neela Blaisdale going at a snail's pace

    Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs...we can set ourselves up, Steve

    stevenaia Michinaga: can two neighbors combine prims and build on the extended lot?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: one could ask

    stevenaia Michinaga: corvi, what are you doing down there?

    Threedee Shepherd: Combined prims need to have the same owner

    Adelene Dawner: I don't see why not, but ask.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: playing with your and Neela's knees I guess.

    Fael Illyar: the only limits are informal.

    Bell: *ding*

    Neela Blaisdale: hehe

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: watching snails crawl.

    Fael Illyar: so, unless the sim is running out of prims, no-one is likely to even notice :)

      Nos' shape became luminous and translucent, floating in the air of the Pavilion.

    Fael Illyar: oh, nice amoeba :)

    Sylectra Darwin: Nos, where did you get that avvie?

    Nostrum Forder: Jellyfish

    Fael Illyar: well, ok, jellyfish ...

    Nostrum Forder: It's from Grendel's Children

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: pretty...

    Sylectra Darwin: Looks like a ghost - perfect for Halloween.

    Threedee Shepherd: I want one of those jellyfish

    Fael Illyar revealing her knowledge of what different animals are called and her ability to tell them apart.

    Sylectra Darwin: Apparently Grendel's children is making plenty of dough.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.

    Nostrum Forder: They certainly did well by me.

    Threedee Shepherd: No, actually, they make costumes ;)

    Sylectra Darwin: brb

    Corvuscorva Nightfire leans back into 3D laughing.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: You are a funny funny lion.

    Nostrum Forder: Syl needs a bear tonight, I think.

    stevenaia Michinaga: don't get her attached to Maker's Mark Nos

    Threedee Shepherd: Think of an Av that was just a stringy lump of dough...

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I think what this is all called..what this week is called for me is Love as Being.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Neela Blaisdale: :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: Neela and corvi, could you rebake? The shots have you as gray

    Sylectra Darwin: ok

    Neela Blaisdale: rebake?

    Fael Illyar: ctrl-alt-r

    Sylectra Darwin: I do indeed need a bear.

    stevenaia Michinaga: must be me, still gray

    Neela Blaisdale: no alt on a mac

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: did that help, Steve?

    Nostrum Forder: Cmd-Opt

    Threedee Shepherd: everyone is colorful on my screen

    Nostrum Forder: Alt = Opt on mac

    Fael Illyar: oh, Pema's mac has an alt ...

    stevenaia Michinaga: Cmd-Opt-r

    Nostrum Forder: and for SL purposes, Cmd replaces Ctrl in Ctrl-Alt sequences.

    Neela Blaisdale: OK

    Neela Blaisdale: (option=alt)

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: can you see me now?

    Threedee Shepherd: yup

    Janine Lyle: f*cke mit ihr du typ

    Janine's translator: f*ck with it type thou

    stevenaia Michinaga: nope

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: argh

    Fael Illyar: Hello Janine, we speak English here.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I can take the picture and slide it to you?

    Neela Blaisdale: can anyone see Steve and Ade? Blobs to me

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I can see everyone, just fine

    Neela Blaisdale: Syl almost had a bear in her lap

    Corvuscorva Nightfire wishes the bear in the snapshot..

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and syl

    Sylectra Darwin: yes?

    Nostrum Forder: I wish I could rez a poseball here.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire points to the table and bats her eyes...hoping....

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: syl?

    Fael Illyar: There's this 2 pillow gap here between us, syl.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: maybe this cushion beside Fael?

    Sylectra Darwin: Oh...

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: good bear.

    Sylectra Darwin: yes?

    Sylectra Darwin: sorry...so hard to see


    My computer was bogging down terribly...as it turned out, because I was at someone else's house I couldn't reach the electrical outlet, and my low battery was about to force a hibernation.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: come sit here?

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry

    Sylectra Darwin: I will try.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs as the huddle gets tighter.

    Adelene Dawner: ^.^

    Neela Blaisdale: :) I think we're huddling as well as cuddling

    stevenaia Michinaga: Ade, your head is in front of Fael

    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

    Neela Blaisdale is yawning

    Buddha necklace with floating meditation animation whispers: OHM

    Sylectra Darwin: I am having so much trouble moving around, guys.

      Nos became a pig with wings.

    Pigs Fly Rideable Weird Sh*t whispers: When pigs fly!

    Neela Blaisdale: Nos is a person of many faces:)

    Bell: *ding*

    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's ok, Neela

    Fael Illyar: quite a few, yes :)

    Sylectra Darwin: I just can't move. Sorry.

    stevenaia Michinaga: ok quieter for a moment for a pic.

    Nostrum Forder: I cast about quite a bit before I settled on an AV.

    Sylectra Darwin: I click once and wait 30 seconds.

    Fael Illyar: Just do what you can, Syl :)


    My computer went to sleep, knocking me out of the meeting. Luckily, it was about finished.

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