Page last modified 11:36, 9 Apr 2010 by Gaya Ethaniel

*Wol Euler was Guardian, filling in for Storm. I appeared as a swirling cloud of tiny red and orange hearts, which were referred to several times and gave us our topic and title. Photos will be posted as soon as I can figure out to get them out of my Inventory into RL.*

Wol Euler: hello rotating gaya

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. ah there you are

Wol Euler: I'm in disguise.

Wol Euler: I am in fact Storm Nordwind :-)

Gaya Ethaniel: rezzing... slow...

Wol Euler: sorta kinda

Gaya Ethaniel giggles

Wol Euler: hello doug, long time no see.

Gaya Ethaniel: wow... autumn forest?

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Wol Euler: flurry of hearts, but it does seem seasonal.

Doug returns from his adventures Away.

doug Sosa: hi, been traveling..

Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Gaya Ethaniel: look amazing Wol

Wol Euler: ty :)

doug Sosa: hi

Adams arrives at high speed, shooting right through the Pavilion and out the other side.

Wol Euler: adams whooshes through.

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Adams Rubble: Greetings everyone :)

Adams Rubble: Wol?

Wol Euler: hello again

Wol Euler: yep, I'm here.

Adams Rubble wonderes whether they are hearts or Wol has had autumn drop on her

Wol Euler: both :-)

Wol Euler: hearts but seasonally coloured

Faenik: could be

Adams Rubble: :)

Wol Euler puts on a deep, gruff voice and Scottish accent.

Wol Euler: I'm filling in for Storm, who is on a retreat this weekend. Does anyone have anything PaB-ish that they would like to discuss?

Adams Rubble: Ah, that is right, I forgot. That is nice of you and you too Gaya for all those 1 o'clocks

Adams Rubble: My RL self is cowering in a corner and I am just an avatar :)

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: naah, he's a pussycat really.

Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. np about 1am slots*

Wol Euler: and for me no problem with the 1 pms, mid evening.

Adams Rubble: Doug, you are very quiet today

Adams Rubble never sure whether I can get here on Saturdays

Adams Rubble: It's raining here today :)

Adams Rubble: in RL that is

Adams Rubble: nice and sunny here in SL

Wol Euler: as always. How dull.

Adams Rubble thinks it is lovely

Wol Euler looks expectantly at Gaya.

Wol Euler: ah, well :)

Adams Rubble: Your hearts would be blown away Wol

Gaya Ethaniel smiles... a truly lovely AV

Wol Euler: ah, but that is good, it would spread me all over the world!

Adams Rubble: ah

Wol Euler: it's called "Love is all around" by Yeti Bling.

Adams Rubble: One little piece of Wol in every sim

Wol Euler: mmmmm :)

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. ty

Faenik loves wells!

Wol Euler: ah, I haven't seen that outfit in a while, Gaya.

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. happy memories with this one. ty Wol...

Adams Rubble: brb

Wol Euler: kk

Gaya Ethaniel: sure

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. np

Adams Rubble: back

Adams Rubble: Gaya you've changed

Gaya Ethaniel: wb. yes

Wol Euler: nd again

Gaya Ethaniel: no more I promise

Wol Euler: nono, as you please.

Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Finally we settle down to business.

Gaya Ethaniel: so... what's the topic?

Gaya Ethaniel: heart?

Wol Euler: so far nobody has offered one.

Wol Euler: sure, why not.

Wol Euler: lead off :)

Gaya Ethaniel: heart may know better than head... what's your thoughts on this?

Faenik: why not?

Wol Euler: they know different things, perhaps, like the fox and the hedgehog

Wol Euler: "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing."

Adams Rubble asks what is that

Wol Euler: http://www.kheper.net/topics/typolog..._Hedgehog.html

Adams Rubble: oh no

Gaya Ethaniel reads

Wol Euler: sorry :)

Wol Euler: if "heart" is intuition, then it often does know long before the head, yes.

Gaya Ethaniel listens... head needs time to process that information?

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Gaya Ethaniel: what is intuition/heart? where does it come from?

Gaya Ethaniel: (obviously not from head right?)

Wol Euler: wb adams

Faenik: ah :)

Wol Euler: good question, where _does_ intuition come from?

Gaya Ethaniel: wb

Adams Rubble: Sorry my computer is not happy

Wol Euler: sorry to hear it :-)

Wol Euler gives Adams' computer a cookie.

Adams Rubble didn;t find out what hedgehog knows

Wol Euler: oh, heheheh

Wol Euler: the hedgehog-type person has a single big idea, and sees the whole world through it.

Adams Rubble: Is that the head or heart?

Wol Euler: Moses for instance, or McCarthy and his Communist-under-every-bed mania

Adams Rubble: Moses and McCarthy in same sentence (Adams faints)

Wol Euler: hehehehehe

Wol Euler: it won't happen again.

Adams Rubble wondering whether hedgehog is heart or head

Wol Euler: yeh me too :)

Wol Euler: it was a spur-of-the-moment suggestion.

Adams Rubble: hehe Wol

Doug vanishes.

Adams Rubble: Doug did more than faint

Wol Euler: well, it is 1:29

Adams Rubble: ah, it is 4:29 here

Wol Euler: but having made the suggestion: I think that hte heart is the hedgehog.

Adams Rubble: hmmmm

Wol Euler: its big idea is love, and that is all it wants to know about.

Wol Euler: intuition comes from the heart. When your intuition says "no" to somebody or something, it is saying "there's something there that I cannot love"

Wol Euler: but it cant tell you what that is.

Wol Euler: that is the head's job.

Wol Euler: the head is the fox, endlessly fascinated by many small things

Adams Rubble isn't good with this head/heart stuff

Gaya Ethaniel: cannot love. why not?

Wol Euler: because you recognize that they are ... whatever: mass-murderers, sociopaths, violently inclined.

Adams Rubble: oh my

Wol Euler: taking "love" in a very broad way.

Gaya Ethaniel ponders

Wol Euler: or simply "not nice" :)

Gaya Ethaniel nods

Wol Euler: Look, this isn't gospel :) I am thinkng on my feet, trying to see if the suggestion makes any sense.

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. I know... sorry to put you on the spot

Adams checks out.

Adams Rubble: Folks, I keep doing this but RL is calling me again

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Wol Euler smiles and sighs. take care, adams

Wol Euler: see you anon

Adams Rubble not all that good on planning this weekend

Faenik loves wells!

Wol Euler: it happens.

Gaya Ethaniel: it's tricky when head attempts to understand heart hey Wol

Adams Rubble: yes anon

Wol Euler: bye for now

Adams Rubble: the heart can follow the head

Wol Euler: Gaya, the rverse is also true. Head says "good god, how can you love that person?", heart answers "no idea, but I do"

Adams Rubble: bye :)

Gaya Ethaniel giggles

Wol Euler: bye, adams

Gaya Ethaniel: person or thing... could be anything right

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Gaya Ethaniel: trouble comes when one rejects the other (heart/head)... disagree I mean

Wol Euler: disharmony :)

Gaya Ethaniel: what do you normally use to settle?

Wol Euler: well, "normal" is shifting. My head ruled absolutely for many years, I am learning to listen to my heart. Switching over is a slow process.

Gaya Ethaniel: ah...

Wol Euler: and you?

Gaya Ethaniel: a mixture... but follow heart a bit more perhaps

Wol Euler nods

Gaya Ethaniel: often problematic following heart if head doesn't understand why. making connection between heart/head rather difficult for me

Faenik: indeed?

Wol Euler: why is that?

Gaya Ethaniel: refuse to listen I guess

Gaya Ethaniel: attempt to think first maybe?

Wol Euler: could be :)

Gaya Ethaniel: so pins dropped when you said [13:23] Wol Euler: if "heart" is intuition, then it often does know long before the head, yes.

Wol Euler: ah :)

Wol Euler: well, that is probably universally true. ther are many names for it: gut feeling, instinct

"Ich kann ihn nicht riechen."

Wol Euler: the Germans "I can't stand the smell of him" about somebody that htey are uncomfortable with for reasons they can't really explain.

Wol Euler: which is intuition again. the heart knows something is wrong there, before the head finds a reason

Gaya Ethaniel: so back to the question... where does intuition come from? also... how does head find reasons?

Wol Euler: I'm not sure, what do you think?

Gaya Ethaniel is thinking furiously

Wol Euler fans your brow.

Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Gaya Ethaniel: intuition... it doesn't seem to be simply biological...

Gaya Ethaniel: reasons... tend to find them better when I let things to pan out naturally

Faenik loves wells!

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Gaya Ethaniel: similar in a way... the process of how head works... just takes longer than heart

Wol Euler: the heart judges on "evidence" that the head cannot see, perhaps.

Gaya Ethaniel: Threedee talked about gut feelings a few times before

Wol Euler: it may be in a way biological, in that it relies on clues that cannot be consciously perceived, like micro-expressions or indeed smell.

Gaya Ethaniel: perhaps people who rely on heart more are similar to the hedgehog type

Gaya Ethaniel: yes he talked in 'body' terms re: gut feelings

Wol Euler: they would probably make faster and sharper distinctions than those who use the head.

Gaya Ethaniel: but in public matters, making decisions based on gut feelings are not appreciated so much as the background of the decisions has to be communicated/understood by others

Gaya Ethaniel: (well even in private matters)

Wol Euler nods

Gaya Ethaniel: what made you to start switching from head to heart?

Wol Euler: realizing that I wasn't getting very far, or rather that it couldn't take me where I wanted to go

Wol Euler: and also perhaps trusting myself to listen to my heart

Gaya Ethaniel: interesting... always though head would take me further

Wol Euler: well, that depends on where you are and where you would rather be :-)

Gaya Ethaniel smiles

Faenik: could be

Gaya Ethaniel: shame we can't watch ourselves living in multiverse, walking on different paths

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: life needs a "reload saved version" button :)

Gaya Ethaniel giggles

Gaya Ethaniel: ah well that's life I guess

Wol Euler: yep

Gaya Ethaniel: another meeting to go. nice to see you again Wol. enjoyed the discussion

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Wol Euler: bye gaya, nice to see you

Wol Euler: enjoy the evening

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. you too ty

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