Page last modified 12:14, 9 Apr 2010 by wol

*Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.*

Becka Finesmith: hi Wol

Wol Euler: morning becka

Wol Euler chuckles at Becka's t-shirt.

Becka is wearing an astronomy-twittering t-shirt, whose punchline I can't remember. Sigh. Trust me that it was pretty and funny.

Wol Euler: were you following @MarsPhoenix?

Becka Finesmith: Yes. I was following Mars Phoenix

Wol Euler: I was surprised at how very sad I was when it/she stopped.

Becka Finesmith: SORRY - vERY BAD LAG :(

Wol Euler smiles and nods. It happens...

Becka Finesmith: yes. But we have Nasakepler now :)

Wol Euler: ah!

Becka Finesmith: and a couple of others

Becka Finesmith: won't be the same though

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Becka Finesmith: you were following too?

Wol Euler: oh yes

Becka Finesmith: :)

Wol Euler: (well, the typist was. Wol doesn't have a twitter account)

Wol Euler <- is a pedant.

Becka Finesmith: lol

Becka Finesmith: Indeed

Becka Finesmith: Because Typist would have to update Wols account and that would be to much :(

Wol Euler: ah.

Wol Euler sighs.

Wol Euler: yes, I am neglecting certain things.

Becka Finesmith: TEll me to mind my own business but what does the typist do for a lving?

Wol Euler: heheheheh

Wol Euler: the typist is a split creature: architect and database programmer/translator

Becka Finesmith: Aha. An interesting mix

Wol Euler: officially I am on "database" time now, but SL is important too.

Becka Finesmith: Architect as in Buildings or systems?

Wol Euler: hello tarmel

Becka Finesmith: Hi Tarmel

Wol Euler: buildings, ATM working on a swimming pool and sauna complex

Wol Euler: brand new project, won in a competition.

Becka Finesmith: Oooh - Nice

Tarmel Udimo: hello folks

Wol Euler smiles, yes it's a nice job. Our second pool complex, or third if you count the pools in a hotel we built

Tarmel joins us and the conversation turns to specialists and soldiery.

Wol Euler: it's odd how one just drifts into being a specialist...

Becka Finesmith smiles

Becka Finesmith: yes - Show aptitude for something and the job is yours :)

Wol Euler: heheheheheh

Becka Finesmith: (Job of specialist that is)

Becka Finesmith: It always seems a misnomer when they call and astronaut a specialist

Wol Euler: or a soldier ...

Becka Finesmith: because they never say at what

Becka Finesmith: yes. Soldiers have to be good at everything too

Wol Euler: one would hope so.

Tarmel Udimo: i can't imagine playing that role

Becka Finesmith: Of Soldier?

Tarmel Udimo: yes

Becka Finesmith: me neither

Tarmel Udimo: and yet some people are born for it or into it

Wol Euler nods. We are the first (or second) generation that didn't have to play the role.

Authority, and the fate of IBM.

Becka Finesmith: For a start, I'm not to good with authroity

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh a rebel

Becka Finesmith: authority

Becka Finesmith smiles

Becka Finesmith: Always swimming against the tide it seems

Wol Euler: or did you mean "exercising authority"?

Wol Euler: ah, ok

Tarmel Udimo: smiles

Becka Finesmith: No - not good at accepting authority

Wol Euler nods. That would be difficult as a soldier, yes :)

Wol Euler: but also in many desk jobs ...

Becka Finesmith: Yes. It can make you a little unpopular with the grown ups

Becka Finesmith: :)

Tarmel Udimo: and yet these days we have all become desk job jockeys because of computers

Wol Euler: true.

Wol Euler: it's hard to believe that this MacBook on which I am watching these pixels type, is the same kind of machine as the "computer" that filled two rooms on which I learned 30 years ago

Tarmel Udimo: so Wol is in germany where are you becka?

Tarmel Udimo: has it been 30 years

Becka Finesmith: I'm in the UK

Wol Euler laughs and sighs. It has indeed.

Tarmel Udimo: oh yes perhaps you told me that

Becka Finesmith: they have developed in such a short time. I have to say that Mac don't have the heritage PC's do :p

Becka Finesmith: I don't remember Apple developing a mainframe :)

Wol Euler: true; but the PCs don't have much in common with mainframes either.

Becka Finesmith: Mind you, IBM don't manufacture PC's anymore

Becka Finesmith nods

Wol Euler: do they manufacture anything these days? Haven't heard the name in ages

Becka Finesmith: they own Lotus

Becka Finesmith: erm.....

Becka Finesmith: Lexmark

Wol Euler: heheheh

Becka Finesmith: I think you can still buy thinkpads

Sunshine at midnight? Time is relative.

Tarmel Udimo: is this meant to be 1:13 am in the morning/midnight? - why is it this light?

Becka Finesmith: lol - Good point

Wol Euler: ah, the day cycle is shorter in SL.

Wol Euler: there is a sunrise/sunset every 8 hours

Tarmel Udimo: true ot false? smiles

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh that explains it

Tarmel Udimo: so it will take many revolutions for me to be here at 1am and for it to be dark

Wol Euler: well, you can set the sun to "midnight" in the environment editor ...

Becka Finesmith: My Chimes almost coincide with the bell here now

Becka Finesmith: It has caught up :)

Becka Finesmith: I wonder if the saying "You have a long way to go before you catch up with me" has any truth :)

Becka Finesmith: SHould be "You have a long time to go ....."

Wol Euler smiles. Care to elaborate on that?

Wol Euler: ah, I see. yes, it's not about distance as such. right.

Tarmel Udimo: that was funny I think

Becka Finesmith: Well, Time is relative. Technically, given enough time, people at two different ages could eventually catch up with one oanother

Wol Euler: ... or given a fast rocket.

Tarmel Udimo: you've seen that movie with the matrix guy

Becka Finesmith nods

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh the matrix, i was thnking about that movie today

Wol Euler: mm?

The conversation finally arrives at overtly PaBbish matters.

Tarmel Udimo: I take a bit of latitude with my 9 sec moments

Becka Finesmith: I've been using a chimed reminder. I wanted to be able to do it without but I don't think that's going to work

Becka Finesmith: because if I am engrossed in something, time contracts

Wol Euler: oh yse

Becka Finesmith: I will end up only doing the practice every hour

Becka Finesmith: If I am bored, I will want to do it every 5 minutes

Becka Finesmith: (Not that I get bored often)

Wol Euler chuckles

Wol Euler: um, would that be bad?

Tarmel Udimo: today it was a life saver

Tarmel Udimo: it kept reminding me to breathe

Becka Finesmith: @wol I guess not

Wol Euler nods to Tarmel.

Becka Finesmith: Tarmel? Do you forget otherwise?

Tarmel Udimo: you mean trying to remember and timing it in some way?

Tarmel Udimo: opps sorry i realise i made a pun i was actually being semi-serious

Becka Finesmith: lol

Wol Euler: hehehe

Tarmel Udimo: I was feeling flat today and the 9 secs kept allowing me to see things in a more positive light

Becka Finesmith: That's excellent

Tarmel Udimo: yes life safer

Wol Euler: very good.

Becka Finesmith: Now I'm doing the practice regularly, I'm still really trying to find my feet with it

Becka Finesmith: I'm not sure where my focus should be so It's on my breathing

Wol Euler thinks that is as good a place as any :)

Tarmel Udimo: which if you wanted to get deeper you could say by changing my head/heart space I gained more energy or access to energy

Becka Finesmith: I would like it to be more of an awareness but I already stop and take in my surroundings

Tarmel Udimo: meant that literally i was giving myself more "life'

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Becka Finesmith nods

Umbriel and Faenik join us.

Becka Finesmith: morning umbriel

Wol Euler: I use it as a kind of stock-taking: where am I? is it a good place?

Wol Euler: hello umbriel

Tarmel Udimo: yes?

Wol Euler: as a kind of reality-check on my feelings :)

Tarmel Udimo: hello umbriel

Umbriel Levenque: Peace and Love

Wol Euler: metta :)

Tarmel Udimo: and how were your feelings today?

Wol Euler: so far, fine :)

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^ apologies I'm late...

Faenik: ah :)

Wol Euler: no worries, we saved you a cookie

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh of course you've just started :)

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Wol Euler: mmhmm, been up for just under an hour. On my second cup of coffee

Becka Finesmith: You were feeling quite down the other day. Have things improved?

Wol Euler: ah, yes. it was a delightful day!

Wol Euler: just goes to show that one can never really predict other people or situations

Wol Euler: or even oneself. In the end it was an operating system error, as I expected, but I didn't rage and stamp my feet at all :)

Wol Euler: stayed cool and happy, and enjoyed a pleasant day out of the office

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Umbriel Levenque: How did you keep cool and happy?

Wol Euler: partly it was situational: sitting in sunshine, nice company, comfortable chair, tasty coffee :)

Faenik: why not?

Wol Euler: so I was predisposed to be happy.

Wol Euler: but it was also a choice I made. I arrived at teh decision point: rage or accept?

Wol Euler: and decided to accept.

Tarmel Udimo: yes choice is a key word

Becka Finesmith: good for you :) Now I want to be able to do that when I got beyond the point where I can rationalise it :)

Wol Euler: heheheheh

Wol Euler: true, and I can't always do it either.

Situations and choices, and our title.

Tarmel Udimo: and of course one is making 360 degrees of choices all the time

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Wol Euler: but it is a choice and knowing that makes the handling of the situation easier.

Becka Finesmith: Sometimes it doesn't feel that way though does it

Becka Finesmith: I WANT to reamin calm sometimes, but other things take over

Becka Finesmith: and I feel sad, or angry

Wol Euler: oh no, life often seems to be offering you 0.72 degrees of choice.

Becka Finesmith: precisley

Tarmel Udimo: well that's way the whole notion of cause and effect is so fascinating

Becka Finesmith: yes.

Umbriel Levenque: um... what's is wrong with feeling sad or angry?

Becka Finesmith: yes

Becka Finesmith: It happens too often

Wol Euler: ah.

Becka Finesmith: often for no reason

Becka Finesmith: I really have nothing to be either about

Becka Finesmith: understanding why I am is the goal

Becka Finesmith: I sound like a bundle of negative emotions but I'm really not

Tarmel Udimo: i 0,72 defrees of choice - how about 100%

Tarmel Udimo: *degrees

Wol Euler smiles

Becka Finesmith: That feeling would be nice

Wol Euler: no more than anyone else, becka.

Becka Finesmith smiles at wol

Tarmel Udimo: you're just becoming more and more aware of the mood shifts and therefore you're getting closer to seeing more clearly

Wol Euler nods.

Becka Finesmith: That's a really nice way to see things - THank you

Faenik: indeed

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: hwere is faenik?

Becka Finesmith: On Umbriels shoulder

Tarmel Udimo: ahh

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: I must get closer and look

Becka departs. The subject drifts to travel and the changing weather.

Becka Finesmith: :) Alas - I allow 30 minutes and that is long since past. I must leave :(

Umbriel Levenque: Enjoy your day Becka

Wol Euler: aww, becka, take care. enjoy the day.

Becka Finesmith: I won't be around much now until Monday so have a lovely weekend.

Wol Euler: you too.

Becka Finesmith: Take care everyone

Umbriel Levenque: Thank you, you too ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: bye have fun

Becka Finesmith: namaste

Wol Euler: bye

Wol Euler: so, Umbriel, how are you today?

Umbriel Levenque: Still half asleep heheheh thanks. You?

Wol Euler: quite well.

Wol Euler: looking forward to a slow day, alone in the office. I can work in peace and quiet

Umbriel Levenque: Yes, sounds good

Umbriel Levenque: Especially after a busy day out like yesterday no?

Wol Euler: mmhmm, though that too was fine in the end. I love riding trains on sunny days, so the twice two-nd-a-bit hour journey was an extra treat

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: trains?

Tarmel Udimo: where were coming from and where were you going

Wol Euler: a mode of transport much loved and widely used in Europe :)

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: I do love trains

Wol Euler: fast and cheap-ish and comfortable

Wol Euler: going from home (Stuttgart) to Freiburg on the Swiss border, riding down the Rhine valley

Umbriel Levenque: [Not cheap... in UK]

Wol Euler: (but the flat and broad southern valley, not the rocky northern part where the castles and the Lorelei peak are)

Tarmel Udimo: either way it was I am sure a wonderful trip - very green and lush?

Umbriel Levenque: Sounds lovely

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: even now in mid-November. only a few patches of snow in shady spots

Tarmel Udimo: yes i forgot - snow

Wol Euler: there has only been one _real_ winter since I moved to Germany 14 years ago

Tarmel Udimo: that's been that way in CA too

Tarmel Udimo: well still powerful and cold, but I've noticed that it gets some nice sunny days in between unlike when i lived there

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: global climatic change is a reality, anyone wiht one eye and a memory knows that.

Tarmel Udimo: uhmmm

Wol Euler feels a rant coming on and quickly bites her tongue.

Faenik: could be

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: one of your favourite topics?

Wol Euler: indeed.

Wol Euler: though favourite in the way that a really messy crash on the highway draws one's attention.

Tarmel Udimo: smiles

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Wol Euler bites down really hard.

Tarmel kindly saves me from a meltdown by changing the subject to appearance (with a lower-case "a").

Tarmel Udimo: so a new outfit?

Wol Euler: thank you! change of topic!!

Wol Euler: yes, a digital neko outfit :)

Wol Euler: 1562 prims of gorgeousness!

Tarmel Udimo: thought you might need it

Wol Euler: not something I wear to the ETD sale :)

Tarmel Udimo: ETD?

Wol Euler: but it makes me feel cheerful to wear this.

Wol Euler: ah! one of the best hair stores in SL. Elika Tiramisu Designs, I'll give you a LM

Tarmel Udimo: okay

Wol Euler: good and not too expensive, wide range, great colours. and some freebies too

Tarmel Udimo: I have a strange feeling I'm always going to just end up looking like this

Tarmel Udimo: :-)

Wol Euler: but their sales are lag-festivals! you get 60+ avs in a sim and even the strongest server buckles at the knees

Umbriel Levenque: heheheh, your AV rendering cost is indeed higher than usual Wol

Wol Euler: people go naked and primless trying to be able to move at all

Wol Euler: oh, this is nothing. I have an outfit that hits 10333.

Umbriel Levenque: I haven't seen that one...

Wol Euler: I'll wear that some day.

Umbriel Levenque: ok ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: a fashion horse?

Wol Euler: something like that, yes.

Wol Euler: It amuses and pleases me to experiment with my appearance

Faenik loves wells!

Wol Euler: though my basic shape hasn't changed in months. I arrived at this body and face quite early on

Wol Euler: tarmel, if you like, I coud arrange a little shopping trip. look at the options ...

Wol Euler: maybe pick up Corvi too, she has a good eye.

Wol Euler: gaya if she's around.

Tarmel Udimo: okay except i think i'll be window shopping

Wol Euler smiles. Wait and see...

Umbriel Levenque: Sounds... like a lovely girlie get-together ^_^

Wol Euler: though there is nothing wrong with sticking to an appearance. Many do.

Wol Euler: it depends on what SL means to you, how you experience it.

Tarmel Udimo: all that's missing is the champagne

Wol Euler: !

Tarmel Udimo: give me time I'm sure I'll get there

Wol Euler nods.

The joys of Second Life.

Tarmel Udimo: what sl HAS given me is talking to like minded people and thats wonderful!

Tarmel Udimo: in way more important than looks

Wol Euler: oh yes. SL is a social concentrator.

Wol Euler: think how many cities and how many thousands of kilometers separate us in RL, how would we meet?

Wol Euler: and more to the point: how many years?

Wol Euler: would we speak if we met on the streets of TO as strangers?

Wol Euler: but here we do.

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: one of the questions I always ask my self

Tarmel Udimo: yes but it sure ain't face book

Wol Euler snorts coffee

Umbriel Levenque: ^_^

Tarmel Udimo: when was the last time you were in TO?

Umbriel Levenque: um... what's TO?

Wol Euler: May of last yer, for my father's 80th birthday. (Toronto, Ontario, where we both lived)

Tarmel Udimo: sorry - Toronto

Umbriel Levenque: ah...

Tarmel Udimo: I was there in August, for my birthday

Wol Euler: ah, just missed you then :)

Tarmel Udimo: :)

Tarmel Udimo: what about you umbriel where are you?

Umbriel Levenque: London here

Tarmel Udimo: like becka

Umbriel Levenque: Pounds yes ^_^

Wol Euler chuckles.

Tarmel Udimo: smiles

Umbriel Levenque: Not sure if I asked before... where are you based at in RL Tarmel?

Wol Euler: (shall we stop the recorder?)

Tarmel Udimo: just looked at your profile the quiet and far away?

Umbriel Levenque: Sure Wol

Wol Euler: the hour is up...

Tarmel Udimo: I'm in Australia, Sydney

Tarmel Udimo: ahh so it is

Umbriel Levenque: AM Radio's group Tarmel, he creates amazing places

Tarmel Udimo: not very PAB session

Wol Euler: oooh, you MUST see the Far Away! lovely!!

Umbriel Levenque: ah... Oz

Wol Euler bangs her gavel.

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