Page last modified 13:12, 9 Apr 2010 by wol

*Wol Euler was guardian for this session, filling in for Maxine Walden. The comments are by Wol.*

This was a long, cheerful, and highly interesting session. I arrived to find Scathach and Claire at the Playgoda. Riddle soon joined us.

Wol Euler: hello claire

Wol Euler: hello scath

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Wol:)

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Claire

Claire Beltran: Hello to you both...

Claire Beltran: I fear that you find me in a rather bad state of mind.

Wol Euler smiles. I'm glad you came, Claire, in whatever state of mind.

Wol Euler: I find that I need company more when I'm in a bad state than a good one.

Scathach Rhiadra nods

Claire Beltran: Yes... me, too.

Wol Euler: well, then :) where better for you to be right now, than here?

Wol Euler: hello riddle, nice to see you again

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Riddle

Riddle Sideways: hi Wol

Riddle Sideways: hi all

Riddle Sideways: gosh, coming into SL after many days sure gives lots o missed events

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Wol Euler grins and nods.

Riddle Sideways: sorry, I have lots o RL interruptions goingon

Wol Euler: no worries, we'll sit and meditate.

Riddle Sideways: :)

And so we did, for several minutes.

Wol Euler: I was just wondering whether RL meditation groups get antsy if nobody speaks.

Claire Beltran: Haha!

Scathach Rhiadra: probably not:)

Claire Beltran: Probably.

Wol Euler: ha!

Claire Beltran: Well... it depends...

Wol Euler: nice pair of answers.

Wol Euler: Claire, why? Scath, why not?

Claire Beltran: If it's a bad silence, or an uncomfortable one.

Claire Beltran: There are different qualities of silence.

Wol Euler: oh yes

Claire Beltran: the best kind being one that people can share when they're doing an activity together, or even just being together.

Scathach Rhiadra: for me, if they are meditating, its probably silent meditation, so they wouldn't expect anyone to talk:)

Wol Euler: could be :)

Wol Euler: sitting together in silence can be very friendly, warm

Wol Euler: and calm

Scathach Rhiadra nods:)

Claire Beltran: I need to learn to be more comfortable with *talking*, myself.

Riddle Sideways: a. there is that calm of being silent together

Wol Euler smiles. Striking a balance, I guess, Claire.

Riddle Sideways: b. toward the end of hour waiting for somebody to break the silence

Riddle Sideways: antsy wondering if leader has gone to sleep :)

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: and who dare wake her?

Riddle Sideways: all those go thru mind

Wol Euler: silence in groups does seem much easier in SL than in RL, I find.

Riddle Sideways: silence could also mean Scath has lost SL connection

Wol Euler: ha!

Neela, Allan and Thud drop in.

Riddle Sideways: Hi Allen

Wol Euler: hello again allen

Allan Whiteberry: Hello Everyone

Allan Whiteberry: Are you finished for the day?

Wol Euler: no, just starting

Allan Whiteberry: OK, what is the topic today?

Riddle Sideways: am not sure why we sink in the outer row of tiles

Riddle Sideways: sorry, not the topic

Riddle Sideways: WB scath

Wol Euler: wb scath, and hello neela

Scathach Rhiadra: sorry about that, I managed to turn off the power to my PC:)

Riddle Sideways: hate that

Wol Euler: O.O

Neela Blaisdale: Hi Wol, can't see you yet

Wol Euler: hello thud

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Neela

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Allan

Wol Euler: take a cushion, the sinking effect only works while you are standing

Allan Whiteberry: Hello Scathach

Riddle Sideways: wonder why we should have a sinking here

Allan Whiteberry: --

Allan Whiteberry: lag.......

Wol Euler: it's related to teh autologging, sorry to say. Avs above a certain height (percentage) are pressed down by the autologging listeners. No idea why.

Wol Euler: if you are short, it doesn't affect you.

Wol Euler: really odd.

Thud Lorakeet: ah. . . i'm apparently rather tall now

Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, short people don't sink :)

Wol Euler: ratio of surface area to volume is lower :)

Riddle starts us off in earnest. Kirkra seems to join us, but is silent and then quietly vanishes.

Riddle Sideways: I was litening to NPR weekend editions "I believe" this morning

Riddle Sideways: a 7 yaer old's essay really go me

Riddle Sideways: he wrote 100 things he believes

Allan Whiteberry: What did he (she) say?

Riddle Sideways: it should be on npr.org

Neela Blaisdale: Sorry computer trouble

Riddle Sideways: sorry, typinn problems

Riddle Sideways: gotnew keyboard

Riddle Sideways: have not plugged it in

Allan Whiteberry: 100 things would be difficult to come up with

Wol Euler: hello kirkra, I didn't see you arrive

Allan Whiteberry: without stating the obvious

Riddle Sideways: he read about 30 in the interview

Riddle Sideways: "believe in G-d"

Riddle Sideways: believes war should not start

Allan Whiteberry: Was that a typo, or did you intend to write G-d?

Riddle Sideways: meant to... thatz the way I write

Allan Whiteberry: why?

Riddle Sideways: I can type about "Being" but have trouble spelling the name of g-d

Thud Lorakeet: can you tell me more about Play as Being?

Riddle Sideways: itz a Jewish thang

Wol Euler: I'll give you a notecard, Thud

Allan Whiteberry: interesting

Wol Euler: Kirkra, come and join us please. It feels like a job interview with you sitting alone over there.

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Thud Lorakeet: thanks wol. very interesting.

Wol Euler: some sessions are more disciplined (shall we say) than others, we don't always stick to topics directly related to meditation

Riddle Sideways: many times we play tho

Wol Euler: my sessions (friday 1 am) are usually 97% play

Wol Euler: the 7pm sessions tend to be very serious and rigorous

Riddle Sideways: most times playing with words

Thud Lorakeet: is it ok to be chatting? or is there some other objective?

Riddle Sideways: it is ok

Thud Lorakeet: thx. riddle

Thud Lorakeet: nice to meet you btw

Riddle Sideways: soon some deep moving relivant chat will come along

Wol Euler: :)

Riddle Sideways: many times at about 10minutes before I have to leave

Riddle Sideways: it will get real exciting

Riddle Sideways: :)

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Thud Lorakeet: i'm absolutely fascinated by this place

Wol Euler: SL?

Riddle Sideways: thanks

Thud Lorakeet: yes, as well as this particular location wtihin it

Wol Euler: I think you met Storm Nordwind last time, he built it.

Thud Lorakeet: i don't recall.

Riddle Sideways: SL gets many groups/clubs in it

Thud Lorakeet: yes. i've joined a couple already. my interests here are somewhat scholarly as well as . . . entertainment?

Thud Lorakeet: if that's the right word

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: as good as any other perhaps

Riddle Sideways: this group crosses religious, science, arts and reality

Wol Euler: I've just noticed, Claire, you are the oldest of us all. Rezzed in 2006.

Thud Lorakeet: it's interesting that i found my way here by chance.

Claire Beltran: Hmm.

Allan Whiteberry: So did I

Riddle Sideways: most of us found our ways here

Wol Euler: one might suggest that there is no "chance", that the universe wanted you here.

And with that Allan vanishes! The conversation turns to tarot and totem.

Wol Euler: the concept appears to have shocked Allan

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Thud Lorakeet: well, given that the tarot was part of my objective it's certainly the universe speaking . . . again

Wol Euler nods

Thud Lorakeet: if one takes the time to listen

Wol Euler: I believe that it does, but most of us have our TVs turned up too high to hear it.

Wol Euler: (for various values of "TV")

Thud Lorakeet: grin

Riddle Sideways: true

Riddle Sideways: that was my very thoughts toward the clock radio this morning

Riddle Sideways: when I could not hear the birds

Wol Euler: ah

Claire leaves us.

Claire Beltran: I think I must be off for now... I need to get some rest.

Riddle Sideways: ok, Claire

Wol Euler nods and smiles. Goodnight claire, take care.

Scathach Rhiadra: bye Claire, take care:)

Riddle Sideways: I was talking with a couple of people last night

Riddle Sideways: she was describing a native american deck of cards

Claire Beltran: ^-^/

Wol Euler: bye, be at peace

Riddle Sideways: bye

Riddle Sideways: I imagedn drawing the squirrel card

Wol Euler: mm?

Riddle Sideways: she was talking about the wolf card

Riddle Sideways: talking with her hands

Riddle Sideways: and knocked my imaginery squirrel card of onto the floor

Wol Euler: :)

Riddle Sideways: what does that say in tarrot

Thud Lorakeet: i'm sorry -- were you addressing me? i stepped away

Riddle Sideways: no, I was just chatting

Riddle Sideways: but I was hurt that she said there was no squirrel card in the native am deck

Wol Euler: huh

Wol Euler: they are so common and so characterful, I am surprised at that.

Spirit guides; and a challenge is issued.

Riddle Sideways: everybody always wants their spirit guides to be big great creatures

Riddle Sideways: what if you ended up with a turtle

Wol Euler: they live for hundreds of years ...

Riddle Sideways: true, that was bad example

Wol Euler: in a way that was my point, there is surely a positive characteristic that one might bring out about any choice.

Wol Euler: "cockroaches are tough and fast and resilient", for example

Riddle Sideways: yeah, I can't think of a creature that doesn't have the positive points

Riddle Sideways: except of mosquitoes (sp?)

Wol Euler: ha true.

Wol Euler: well, ok, all you phenomenologists! Let's try.

Scathach Rhiadra: maybe fleas?

Wol Euler: what is a positive attribute of a mosquito or a flea?

Riddle Sideways: mos. wake you up from dreaming

Scathach Rhiadra: they have an inoddinate effect on humans, despite their size

Riddle Sideways: like a pinch

Wol Euler nods

Thud Lorakeet: are we assuming a human point of view? if one is a mosquito or a flea. . .

Wol Euler: either or, thud :) Go with it.

In a brilliant feat of intuition, Riddle and I discover and proclaim The Rules Of PaB.

Wol Euler: rule 1: there is no "right answer"

Wol Euler: rule 2: there is no "wrong answer"

Thud Lorakeet: well, then there must be something positive

Wol Euler: exactly :)

Riddle Sideways: rule 3: there is no rule 3

Wol Euler: yes!

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Thud Lorakeet: fleas and mosquitoes are amazingly agile creatures

Wol Euler: ha, we shall print that up and distribute it

Wol Euler: yes, thud, htey are almost impossible to find though they are right beside you

Riddle Sideways: pls obey rules in any order

Thud Lorakeet: indeed. stealthy and quick

Wol Euler: and I do admire (aesthetically) the way they hover in calm air in the evening sunlight

Riddle Sideways: Flea has been around for millions of years

Thud Lorakeet: they remind us of our own corporeality

Riddle Sideways: adapted to all conditions

Wol Euler: so what could be the beneficial effect, the special enabling, that a mosquito would bring to someone whose totem animal it was?

Thud Lorakeet: alacrity, a keen ability to disappear when in danger,

Wol Euler: persistence

Wol Euler: and a kind of calm, they don't dart about or get angry like bees and wasps

Thud Lorakeet: gracefulness

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Riddle Sideways: as today is Ali's bday, I answer: "float like a mosquito, sting like a mosquito" :)

Wol Euler: ah!

Wol Euler: heheheh

A difficult and most disturbing question is asked.

Riddle Sideways: ok, this is a hard one

Riddle Sideways: what if I slap at and kill my totem?

Wol Euler is aghast.

Scathach Rhiadra: well if it was your totem, would you not have to avoid doing that:)

Wol Euler: it it was your totem, it might not bite you. My grandmother claimed never to have been bitten by a mosquito in her entire life.

Wol Euler: maybe it was her totem!

Wol Euler: and we never knew.

Thud Lorakeet: it is most certainly therefore not mine. they love me

Scathach Rhiadra: ah, possible

Riddle Sideways: might need to learn those lessons

Riddle Sideways: they might really be little who's and trying to getour attention

Riddle Sideways: we need to understand buzz

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Wol Euler smiles and nods

The conversation drifts in the direction of science fiction, but a new visitor brings us back to philosophy.

Riddle Sideways: if life was to start up on a planet with extreme gravity

Riddle Sideways: a mosquito would do better then us big objects

Riddle Sideways: many little items grouped

Wol Euler: far too tall for the gravity, I'd think it would create short flat animals

Wol Euler: hello Miss

Riddle Sideways: Hi miss

Thud Lorakeet: hi

Miss Popstar: hi

Wol Euler: imagine the giraffe, why it would never be able to stand up again if it fell over

Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Miss

Miss Popstar: i am new here

Miss Popstar: is this a group?

Wol Euler: yes, but the meeting is public if that's what you mean

Miss Popstar: ok

Miss Popstar: what kind of group is it?

Wol Euler: the group meets four times a day to talk about meditation and the meaning of life

Miss Popstar: oh

Wol Euler: I can give you a notecard, just a moment

Miss Popstar: like philosophy with karma

Wol Euler: very much like that, yes :)

Wol Euler: karma without dogma

Miss Popstar: do you discuss continental non-logocentric ideas?

Surely that is the question of the day!

Wol Euler: I've no idea, what are they?

Miss Popstar: that od Jacques derrida?

Wol Euler: oh him, gods forbid.

Wol Euler: :)

Miss Popstar: yes

Miss Popstar: i admire his work

Miss Popstar: especially Glas

Wol Euler: it is probable that somebody will touch on his work in some session at some time, but he hasn't come up yet as far as I know

Wol Euler: but you could start!

Miss Popstar: ok, errr...do you believe in 'being' ?

Wol Euler: personally, yes; but wiht the qualification that I am not certain of what either "belief" or "being" really is

Riddle Sideways: this group explores many sides of Being

Miss Popstar: without the sense of erasure that is prescibed by the SL community, but that of being as belief, as in we hold belief in being here

Riddle Sideways: often using a capitol B

Wol Euler: you should meet Gilles Kuhn, a werewolf who comes to these 1pm sessions sometimes

Miss Popstar: ok

Wol Euler: you would have many points of reference in common, I htink

Miss Popstar: hmm

Miss Popstar: even though he's \ werewolf?

Miss Popstar: lol

Wol Euler: by the way, I should ask: We publish these meetings on our website, may we have your permission to include your name and comments in the record?

Miss Popstar: yes

Wol Euler: ty

Miss Popstar: yw

Wol Euler: and yes, we are not at all fussy about species. We have two lions and an eagle and a teddybear who attend regularly

This concept appears to have shocked Miss, as she vanishes without ceremony.

Scathach Rhiadra: :)

Riddle Sideways: but folks I need to be about my day, thanks all

Thud Lorakeet: bye riddle

Wol Euler: likewise, riddle. enjoy the day.

Scathach Rhiadra: thank you Riddle, bye

Thud Lorakeet: i must also be off. thanks again wol

Thud Lorakeet: bye scathach

Scathach Rhiadra: I must be off too, namaste

Wol Euler: my pleasure, thud. nice to see you again, looking well and handsome :)

Wol Euler: bye scath, goodnight

Thud Lorakeet: why thanks. . . always a work in progress.

Wol Euler: sure :)

Wol Euler: so are we all, in SL and RL too. that's the joy of it

Thud Lorakeet: exactly.

Wol Euler smiles

Thud Lorakeet: a very entertaining place. i shall return. . . .

Wol Euler: we'll be here.

Wol Euler: goodnight, take care

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