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PlayAsBeing Wiki > Chat Logs > 2009 > 03 > 2009.03.20 01:00 - Even teddybears have their own secret sorrows

*Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.*

I arrived to find the Playgoda occupied by Miss Nabby Philly and her teddybear.

Wol Euler: morning nabby

Nabby Philly: Mornin Miz Euler

Nabby Philly: Sorry I was lost in thought

Wol Euler: I don't think you've been here before?

Nabby Philly: Yes I have been (giggles)

Nabby Philly: I just had a nice talk with a man who wanted to know "who are these people"

Wol Euler: ok, so you know the rules and that what we say here is recorded on our website. Good :)

Nabby Philly: yes, I met some nice people the other night

Nabby Philly: One of them was cleaning his office

Nabby Philly: You seem like a nice peerson :)

Wol Euler: I try to be :)

Wol Euler: it's not always easy.

Nabby Philly: No, that is the nature of our human existence

Nabby Philly: (giggles)

Wol Euler nods. Though I am sure that even teddybears have their own secret sorrows, could we but hear them.

Nabby Philly: My teddy is a happy teddy

Wol Euler smiles. I'm glad to hear that.

Nabby Philly: are they wings?

Wol Euler: no, it's a rather marvellous dress, in the "sitting flat" position

Wol Euler: let me walk around a little, show you how it looks

Nabby Philly: Oh, it is very pretty

Nabby Philly: ooooo

Wol Euler: this is how it usually looks, when I'm standing

Nabby Philly: Thank you Miz Euler

Nabby Philly: Wowzie

Wol Euler: very :)

Nabby Philly: I hope when I am big I can have a dress like that and be pretty like you and my Mommy

Wol Euler smiles. I am quite sure that you will, Nabby.

Nabby Philly: I have trouble sitting still for the nine seconds (giggles)

Wol Euler: though true beauty is an inner attribute anyway, as you will also discover

Nabby Philly: you are very wise Miz Euler

Wol Euler: many people who are beautiful on the outside are angry and unhappy inside.

Nabby Philly: ooooh

Nabby Philly: they need a teddy

Wol Euler: indeed they do.

Wol Euler: for certain values of "teddy"

Nabby Philly: like sitting still for nine seconds?

Wol Euler: my teddy is to try to remember that what I think is not necessarily the reason for what I see

Wol Euler: and the nine seconds, yes, that's also a good one

Wol Euler: I see somebody doing something that obstructs my wishes, and am tempted to become angry at them. But their reason may be entirely different, they might even be doing it to help me with a problem that I haven't noticed yet.

Nabby Philly: One does not always wish for what is good for oneself

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Spinach and coffee in Rome.

Nabby Philly: I feel that way about spinach

Wol Euler laughs. Yeah, I hear you.

Wol Euler: but people change too.

Wol Euler: I used to hate spinach, when I was your age, but I love it now.

Wol Euler: I discovered taht what I hated was how my mother used to over-cook it

Nabby Philly: oooh

Nabby Philly: it gets all slimy

Wol Euler: it doesn't need to, though, and that is what my mother never figured out

Nabby Philly: Did that make you angry?

Wol Euler: no, it made me very sad.

Wol Euler: because she was proud of being a good cook, and I discovered a proof that she was not a _great_ cook.

Wol Euler: it was as though I had been snooping and had uncovered a secret, something that I should not have seen

Nabby Philly: oooh that is sad for her

Nabby Philly: My Mommy is still perfect :)

Wol Euler: good :)

Wol Euler: some are, yours might be one of them!

Nabby Philly: (giggles) but I am just six

Nabby Philly: excuse me my battery is low..I have to find a plug

Wol Euler: :)

Wol Euler: I shall seize the moment to turn on the coffeemaker, then

Nabby Philly: hehe. I am back

Nabby Philly: but you can make some coffee :)

Wol Euler: I'm back too.

Wol Euler: I would offer some but you are a bit too young for coffee

Nabby Philly: I interrupted what you were saying about being annoyed with people when they seem to be in the way. There seems to be more to that

Nabby Philly: Oh yes, coffee is blech!

Wol Euler grins. At your age (I'm sorry to keep saying that) I htought so too. I learned to drink it when I was 18, in Rome; and again the difference was that it was very well made there.

Nabby Philly: It is a good thing to learn Miz Euler

Nabby Philly: I'll remember that when I am in Rome (giggles)

Wol Euler: so, yes, about anger

Wol Euler ponders how to express this.

Wol Euler: it is natural to think that one is the centre of the world, because we see the world through our own eyes, located in the space that our body occupies.

Wol Euler: everything we see moves around us.

At this point we were interrupted by the arrival of a Person from ~~Porlock~~ Hangeul, and we never really finished this conversation.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: hello.

Wol Euler: (People used to think this about the entire universe, by the way: they used to think that God made the world for us and placed it around us)

Wol Euler: hello werty

Nabby Philly: hello Mr. Unplugged

Wertyman112 Unplugged: how are you?

Nabby Philly: I am learning about the universe (giggles)

Wol Euler: born yesterday, as they say. Welcome to second life

Nabby Philly: Yes, I can see that Miz Euler

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yeah

Nabby Philly: about being in the center of my world

Nabby Philly: me and teddy

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i just started yesterday lol i forgot where the hell is the starting place again, i wanna ride the rocket D:

Wol Euler: ah, you mean the welcome area. That is south of here.

Nabby Philly: teddy thinks I am the closest thing to his center

Wertyman112 Unplugged: oh south? ok thanks

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i mite go in a min

Wol Euler: if you press CMD-Alt-H ("go home") you might get there.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: it takes me to my house its like this big roman house

Wol Euler: the first place that you visit on the mainland becomes your home

Wol Euler: yep

Nabby Philly watches Miz Euler help the nice man

Wol Euler smiles

Wertyman112 Unplugged: :p

Wol Euler: this is in fact a meeting of a meditation and discussion group, Werty. I can give you a notecard if you are interested

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i already got one friend on second life he is telling me how to play

Wol Euler: :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok i would like a notice card.

Nabby Philly: My Mommy says to play nice

Wol Euler: having friends helps, just as in RL

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yeah

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ill read them

Wol Euler: you'll find a reference to our website in the notecard, that will give you far more information than you can use :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: thanks!

Wol Euler: One important thing: we publish the record of these meetings on the website.

Wol Euler: May we have your permission to include your name and your words in the record?

Wertyman112 Unplugged: cool!

Wertyman112 Unplugged: lol i cant make my own world i have L$0

Wol Euler: does that mean "yes"?

Wertyman112 Unplugged: lol yep

Nabby Philly: It is tough to be poor and alone in this new world

Wol Euler: good, ty.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yeah

Nabby Philly: or the old one

Wertyman112 Unplugged: wow thanks

Wol Euler: you are no longer alone, and not as poor as you used to be :)

Wol Euler: but there is a catch.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: btw nabby i like ur teddeh :P

Wol Euler: you owe _me_ nothing. You owe the world. A stranger has done you a favour, for no other reason than that you needed it. Pass that on.

Nabby Philly: thank you Mr. Unplugged

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i am just going for a quick fly :P

Wertyman112 Unplugged: cya in a minute

Wol Euler: we'll be here

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok!

Werty leaves, and I attempt to return to the subject.

Wol Euler: so, centre of the world. yes.

Werty returns.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: oh yeah i remember that place lol

Nabby Philly: So how do we learn not to think we are at the center Miz Euler?

Nabby Philly: we are NOT at the center

Wol Euler: (brb, coffee is ready)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: by the way thanks for the L$!

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i will treasure it

Wol Euler: nah, spend it.

Nabby Philly: Miz Euler is a nice lady :)

Wol Euler: but wisely :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yep :)

Wol Euler: $10 can go a very long way here.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i like your costume miss wol.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: its beautiful

Wol Euler: lemme give you a landmark to PixelDolls, they are having a sale ATM. Most items are $10

Wol Euler: thank you :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok!

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ill go see the place :)

Wol Euler: it's been on for a while, so don't leave it too late

Werty leaves.

Wol Euler: heh

Wol Euler: so, knowing that we are not at the centre.

Nabby Philly nods

Wol Euler: the first step is to learn that other people are real too.

Nabby Philly: ooooh

Nabby Philly: yes

Wol Euler: that they too have ideas and feelings and opinions and hopes and fears

Wol Euler: especially fears.

Nabby Philly thinks about that

Werty returns.

Wol Euler: jeez, werty, you are as indecisive as a cat on a cold but sunny day :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i got some new jeans

Wertyman112 Unplugged: :p

Nabby Philly: But some people would say we are not real

Nabby Philly: That can get very confusing

Wol Euler: mmhmm, it is.

Nabby Philly: but what you are saying is wise

Wol Euler: they are using the word "real" in different ways.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: looks like their sale was L$50

Nabby Philly: ah, yes

Nabby Philly: it is complicated

Wol Euler: ah, I see. Maybe it was only the womens' gear taht was $10...

Wertyman112 Unplugged: brb, customizing character

Scary monsters.

Nabby Philly: I get afraid of the dark

Wol Euler nods. So do I, Nabby, but probably for different reasons

Nabby Philly: are you afraid fo the dark?

Nabby Philly: Oh. hehe

Nabby Philly: we both said it

Wol Euler: I fear not monsters under the bed, but things that might happen

Wol Euler: but these too are really just monsters. Tehy have not happened yet, and might not happen at all.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yeah i some times watch scary movies and i fear the monsters but i conqour my fears and do not belive in them

Nabby Philly: Oh yes...we fear things even though they may only jst happen

Wertyman112 Unplugged: yeah

Wol Euler: until and unless they do, the fear is just wasted energy and time

Nabby Philly: Oh yes

Wol Euler: which we could have spent making ourselves happy

Wol Euler: or making other people happy

Wertyman112 Unplugged: you speak words that cannot be wrong

Nabby Philly: all the energy wasted on worrying

Wol Euler: :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: :)

Wol Euler: but it we think that we are the centre of the world, the reason for the world, then it is easy to fall into that trap of worrying.

Nabby Philly thinks

Wol Euler: because if we are the centre, then certain things _must_ happen! certain monsters must be real.

Wol Euler: and they must attack _us_ not the neighbours...

Nabby Philly shudders

Wol Euler: it's easier to think you are nobody special, just one of the crowd.

Wol Euler: (the cushions have two poses, werty, click on it to change)

Werty is in a hurry to start building and doing and making.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i have a question wol

Wol Euler: sure

Wertyman112 Unplugged: how do you make your own clothes like your top

Wol Euler: um, with a lot of time and talent and energy.

Wol Euler: I've tried, it is far from easy.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: :(

Wol Euler: you need a copy of photoshop or equivalent

Wol Euler: and the templates, and a tutorial on how to do it.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: i got vista paint and paint.net

Wol Euler: lemme get a URL, you can look it up on the web

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Wol Euler: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Clothing_Tutorials

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Wol Euler: have a look at that, it will get you started

Nabby Philly: you can google all kinds of things by just putting "SL" in front of the term

Wol Euler nods. That too, yes.

Wol Euler: google knows everything.

Nabby Philly: it will bring up appropriate help pages

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Nabby Philly: It is better than the help provided here

Wol Euler: here's another very good tutorial: http://nicolaescher.com/tutorials.php

Wol Euler: step by step, clearly explained.

Nabby Philly: Just be patient, it takes time to learn everyhing

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ill just try myself first before i use the tutorial.

Wol Euler: and I can give you someting I made for myself when I trying to learn to make clothes (I gave up)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Wol Euler: I made a set of clothes of the standard templates, so that I could wear them and see how the parts fit together

Wertyman112 Unplugged: cool.

Wol Euler: just wear those :)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: thanks.

Wol Euler: there are separate templates for eyes and hair and skin, if you want to make them too. You can download them from the SL website

Wertyman112 Unplugged: nice gloves

Wol Euler: put on the rest :)

Nabby Philly: Some people never change clothes and that's cool

Wol Euler: yeah

Wol Euler: it depends what you think SL is for.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: nice pants

Wol Euler: many people who have been in-world for months or years still wear the first outfit they had as newborns

Nabby Philly: yep

Wertyman112 Unplugged: wow thanks!

Nabby Philly: and we love them just as much

Wol Euler: we do.

Wol Euler: that set of clothes is the standard template that you paint over when you make your own items

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ill wear them for parties and stuff :)

Nabby Philly: and lots of clothes are free

Nabby Philly: just search free under places

Wol Euler nods

Nabby Philly: and skins and shapes and motorcycles and plants and drinks and houses...all free

Wol Euler grins.

Nabby Philly: (giggles)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: where can you get the free motorcycles? i would like one

Nabby Philly: search "free" under places

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Nabby Philly: then you must wander around the places and choose

Nabby Philly: don;t say "yes" to any vampires (giggles)

Wertyman112 Unplugged: im searching now :p

Wol Euler: yeah, the vampires are a menace.

Nabby Philly: just say no

Wol Euler: heheh

Nabby Philly: My Mommy told me that

Nabby Philly: and Miz Reagan

Wol Euler: she's right.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ooh public sandbox!!

Wertyman112 Unplugged: imma gonna go there :)

Wol Euler: :)

Werty leaves.

Nabby Philly sighs

Wol Euler: mm?

Nabby Philly: It has been fun meeting you Miz Euler

Wol Euler: likewise, Nabby, I hope you will come by again.

Nabby Philly: Will have to see...my Mommy may have something to say about my running around Second Life

Wol Euler: yeah, parents worry a lot.

Nabby Philly: I have had people try to adopt me

Wol Euler: O.O

Wol Euler: that can be good or very bad...

Nabby Philly: Yeah

Nabby Philly: They worry that my Mommy might not be up to it

Wol Euler snorts scornfully.

Wol Euler: I'm sure your mother is a fine woman and doing a great job. When I look at you, it is clear that you have been well brought up and dearly loved.

Nabby Philly: thank you Miz Euler :)

Nabby Philly: Yes my MOmmy loves me :)

Werty returns.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: hi

Wertyman112 Unplugged: buildings a bit hard for a new player like me =/

Wol Euler: practice.

Wertyman112 Unplugged: ok

Wol Euler: do you know the Ivory Tower of Prims?

Nabby Philly: go to the Ivory Tower

Wertyman112 Unplugged: no wheres that?

Wol Euler: right

Nabby Philly: oh hehe we both said it

Wol Euler: LM coming up!

Wol Euler: it's a kind of 3d tutorial

Werty leaves.

Nabby Philly: yes, they tell you how to do everything

Nabby Philly: but Rome wasn't built in a day

Nabby Philly: which is why it is hhard to get good coffee nowdays

Wol Euler: right!

Wol Euler: The young are so impatient (sorry Nabby, not you)

Nabby Philly: (giggles)

Nabby Philly: He doesn;t listen all that well

Wol Euler: yeah.

Wol Euler: I suspect he is nearly as young in RL as in SL :)

Nabby Philly: wow, only two days old

Nabby Philly: (giggles)

Wol Euler: eagerness is good, I'd hate to stamp that out of anyone; but there is a difference between eager and hurry.

Nabby Philly: Teddy agrees

Nabby Philly: well I better go back home beforeMommy wakes up :)

Wol Euler: mmhmm, she would be worried.

Nabby Philly: yes indeed

Wol Euler: bye Nabby, take care. Bye teddy, watch over Nabby.

Nabby Philly: Teddy says Bye too

Wol Euler smiles

Nabby Philly: Teddy says nice meeting the nice lady

Wol Euler: likewise :)

Nabby Philly: bye bye :)

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