Page last modified 15:06, 9 Apr 2010 by wol

*Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.*

As soon as I arrived at the Playgoda, my phone rang. By the time I got back in-world, Tarmel was waiting patiently.

Wol Euler: morning tarmel!

Wol Euler: sorry about that, the phone rang just as I sat down

Tarmel Udimo: hye there no worries, I've been cleaning up my inventory...:)

Wol Euler: :)

Tarmel Udimo: how are we today

Wol Euler: also a worthy occupation

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Wol Euler: pretty well, thanks. Having a day off

Tarmel Udimo: nice

Tarmel Udimo: hey there Fael

Fael Illyar: Hi Wol, Tarmel :)

Wol Euler: which will mean a day spent doing other work in other places, but still ...

Wol Euler: hello Fael

Tarmel Udimo: yes like what?

Tarmel Udimo: how are you Fael?

Fael Illyar: I'm well :) How are you?

Wol Euler: producing new downloadable installers for a database program I wrote :)

Tarmel Udimo: good end of a long week:)

Fael Illyar: That's still work that's more of your own choice, right? :)

Tarmel Udimo: osunds like riveting stuff Wol:)

Wol Euler: yeah, it's Friday evening already for you! shabbat shalom.

Wol Euler: yes, and yes :)

Fael Illyar: I had a rather busy work day yesterday.

Wol Euler: mm?

Tarmel Udimo: In Sl or RL Fael?

Fael Illyar: RL :)

Tarmel Udimo: what do you do?

Fael Illyar: sysadmin things for an internet service provider

Fael Illyar: all work remotely from home though

Faenik: Ah :)

Wol Euler: hey, faenik's back!

Tarmel Udimo: hi Faenik!

Faenik: Hellow ^^

Tarmel Udimo: I think I need a little creature

Tarmel Udimo: I'm going to check out the Feral sim aftre this

Fael Illyar smiles.

Wol Euler: more RP?

Tarmel Udimo: you go explore with out being a Feral until Friday midnight I think

Tarmel Udimo: nawwww

Tarmel Udimo: more Tarmel fantasy

Wol Euler grins. Now I'm curious

Wol Euler: +c

Tarmel Udimo: changing into other creatures

Fael Illyar smiles.

Tarmel Udimo: +C?

Wol Euler: c+urious

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh

Tarmel Udimo: sorry thought you'd come up with a new thingy

Wol Euler chuckles

Fael Illyar wonders when she'll get up to increasing her choice of other creature avatars.

Tarmel Udimo: what have yoiu got Fael?

With this question, all hope of a serious and solemn discussion was lost!

Fael Illyar: ok, moment :)

Tarmel Udimo: oh wow

Tarmel Udimo: a japanese mermaid

Wol Euler: heheheh, haven't seen that before

Fael Illyar: Yes, I bought this, used for a while, even in a couple of PaB meetings and then somehow just forgot it :)

Tarmel Udimo: very anime

Tarmel Udimo: ohhh:(, a forgotten AV

Wol Euler: there :)

Wol Euler: quite appropriate.

Tarmel Udimo: yes

Fael Illyar smiles.

Tarmel Udimo: so what else you got

Tarmel Udimo: great hair Wol:)

Tarmel Udimo: weeeee

Wol Euler: thanks :) favourite style in a new colour

Tarmel Udimo: humm I bit Crone like:P

Tarmel Udimo: what was that?

Fael Illyar: a couple of particle effects this came with :)

Tarmel Udimo: nice

Wol Euler: fiery mermaid

Tarmel Udimo: yes wouldn't want to mess with her

Tarmel asks about a roleplaying sim we visited together earlier in the week.

Tarmel Udimo: so you still stuck in Ambertown?

Wol Euler: heheh, I suppose I am.

Fael Illyar: expression and some things like eyecolor and shapes are configurable to a degree.

Tarmel Udimo: ok

Fael Illyar: I ended up choosing one eye blue and other slightly purple

Wol Euler: in point of fact, I was TP'd to the arrival point wehn I next logged in, so I did get teh powercells

Wol Euler: but I'm going ot play it out as though I hadn't done

Tarmel Udimo: oh I wondered about that

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Wol Euler: yeah, internal TPs are disabled, so to get around you just use the LMTs while "ooc"

Wol Euler: (we're talking about a sci-fi RP sim that we explored a few days ago, I got sucked into the story line)

Fael Illyar: Ah :)

Wol Euler: TPing always puts you at the forum

Fael Illyar: LMT?

Wol Euler: light something transport :)

Wol Euler: TP alternative within the sense and structure of hte RP

Tarmel Udimo: please let me know when you're next going in, so i can hoover

Wol Euler: so that you can only arrive at set places in specified ways

Fael Illyar: nice to see Tarmel getting into things in SL as well :)

Wol Euler: spaceports are always so dirty :)

Tarmel Udimo: ok I give you both permission to berate me at what a slow newbie I've been:)

Wol Euler: naaah

Fael Illyar: can't do much about people camming around, except building the place such that camming around is extremely tedious.

Fael Illyar has seen one such sim.

Fael Illyar: RP one :)

Wol Euler nods. Sure, but camming is invisible and so doesn't disturb the RP of others present

Tarmel Udimo: did you mean dirty as in sexy or dirty as in dirt?

Wol Euler: dirty as in dirt :) Hoover = UK-English for Vacuum cleaner

Fael Illyar: ah, phonecall

Tarmel Udimo: that's what i thought... wouldn't want Wol to get her clothers dirty:P

Wol Euler: a contrived joke upon a typo, never mind :)

Wol Euler: so, yes, I am getting involved. It's oddly interesting

Tarmel Udimo: hummm, written the backstory yet?

Wol Euler: nope, no time.

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Tarmel Udimo: might just be better to make it up on the spot

Wol Euler: I have to do some reading about Exogen itself first, to come up with a good backstory

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Wol Euler: yes, somebody suggested that. Make the character a bad liar, so that I can simply change what she says as time goes on, without worrying about consistency :)

Tarmel Udimo: hehehe, better to make it real, better RP

Wol Euler: yeah

Wol Euler: for certain values of "real" ...

Tarmel Udimo: yeah okay minus PaB filter

Wol Euler: I'm neko in the RP, which is going back a long way now. I was a neko in all of SL for my first few months, half a year maybe.

Wol Euler: then stopped when I discovered AVid and sexy elegance :)

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Tarmel Udimo: heheheheh

Tarmel Udimo: you'll soon outgrow that

Fael Illyar: :)

Wol Euler: maybe ...

Tarmel Udimo: WB fael

Tarmel Udimo: yeah you'll get into RP and become some weird space station wizard or something:)

Wol Euler grins

Fael Illyar: Anyhow, this mermaid doll AV is kind of my cute overflow AV :P

Tarmel Udimo: yum, just finished off the last of the easter egg

Wol Euler: ha, I still have a pile of chocolate left

Fael Illyar: although, I somehow managed to achieve similar level with my normal AV too :)

Tarmel Udimo: yeah its real cute Fae;

Wol Euler squeezes the mermaid gently to produce another stream of bubbles

Tarmel Udimo: yeah you've gone down the cute path with fael:P

Personal space, hugs and touches, culture.

Fael Illyar: Somehow feels just natural to settle on someone's lap with this AV :)

Wol Euler smiles and nods

Tarmel Udimo: hording are we ? - the chocolate?

Wol Euler: no, just eating slowly

Fael Illyar has a pile of chocolae and candies too.

Tarmel Udimo: you like being on someone's lap fael

Tarmel Udimo: you're a lap junkie

Wol Euler: heheheh

Fael Illyar: seems so :)

Wol Euler: well, perhaps we all would be if we could

Tarmel Udimo: yeah i eat slow too, this has been in the fridge for at least 4 days

Fael Illyar: Tarmel's turn :)

Tarmel Udimo: yikes

Wol Euler grins

Wol Euler: funny how "personal space" applies here in SL just as much as RL

Tarmel Udimo: hahaha fael, that's clever

Wol Euler: as when somebody sist on you or stands to close

Fael Illyar: clever?

Tarmel Udimo: under the arms

Fael Illyar: Yep :)

Tarmel Udimo: oh yes personal space

Tarmel Udimo: I can be a bit touchy feely in RL if I really know the person

Tarmel Udimo: nothing wrong with hugs

Tarmel Udimo: and sliding onto laps

Wol Euler nods. Much right wiht them, in fact

Fael Illyar: :)

Tarmel Udimo: ?

Wol Euler: hugging and other nonsexual body contact strengthens your immune system

Tarmel Udimo: hehehehe

Fael Illyar: sexual contact doesn't?

Wol Euler: perhaps :)

Wol Euler: it need not be sexual, is the point of the report I read

Wol Euler: hugging a friend is as good as hugging a loved one

Tarmel Udimo: sure

Fael Illyar: Ah, you expressed it in a confusing way then :)

Wol Euler: perhaps

Fael Illyar kind of read from that that "sexual contact won't do it".

Tarmel Udimo: it was very.....

Wol Euler: oh no, not at all.

Wol Euler: perhaps the phrasing was north-american uptight: "Don't panic dear reader, I'm not about to encourage you to have sex"

Fael Illyar: Haha :)

Tarmel Udimo: hehehe

Tarmel Udimo: thats right fael, you're from one of those liberated countries

Wol Euler: it's a strange paradox that the nation that consumes and produces the most porn and drugs, is also among the most puritanical and prudish

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Fael Illyar: no paradox at all :)

Wol Euler: phone brb

Fael Illyar: just the natural consequence

Tarmel Udimo: humm as in Victorian era

Tarmel Udimo: uptight on the outside, wicked on the inside

Fael Illyar: the more you try to deny something, the stronger that something becomes.

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Fael Illyar: applies in societies as well

Tarmel Udimo: yes

Tarmel Udimo: too many rules and not enough common sense

Tarmel Udimo: its also about control

Fael Illyar: more like too extreme rules I'd say

Tarmel Udimo: well thinking you can make a rule about same sex aprtners for instance

Tarmel Udimo: surely, thats up to two consenting adults

Tarmel Udimo: and whay can't they get married etc

Fael Illyar: Yep, I don't see how it's anyone else's business what they do together... as long as they're not injuring each other.

Wol Euler: back, reading

Tarmel Udimo: or rules for women that are different from men's rules

Tarmel Udimo: WB

Fael Illyar: wb :)

Tarmel Udimo: the whole idea that women had to even fight for their rights has always made me crazy

Wol Euler: much of early culture and most of religion can be read as men attempting to control women's sexuality.

Fael Illyar: That's just the way things have been. No helping that. Can only change what is now

Tarmel Udimo: yes that's true fael, doesn't change the feelings it brings up fro women

Wol Euler: because it scares the hell out of them :)

Tarmel Udimo: yes, I suspect its more about men gaining power taking over a matriarchal society which was peaceful

Tarmel Udimo: and then needing to conquer and control, not just women but everything

Wol Euler: "men create chaos because they can't create babies". Golda Meir, I think...

Fael Illyar: none of that is strictly male or female characteristics though.

Fael Illyar: much to do with culture, that too

Wol Euler: yes, fael, also true.

Tarmel Udimo: I think there is something intriniscally male and something instrinically female

Tarmel Udimo: and yes we have both aspects or can cultivate both aspects

Fael Illyar: intrinsically, yes, but everyone, male and female has both intrinsics.

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Fael Illyar: just te strengths differ

Wol Euler: and which of them we allow ourselves to express

Tarmel Udimo: and these differences are important and when developed to their highest power can produce enlighten beings in both genders

Other different avs on display.

Fael Illyar: Time to show some other shapes too I guess :)

Tarmel Udimo: yep

Wol Euler: ah, I remember this!

Wol Euler: not htese colours though ...

Tarmel Udimo: that is really beautiful

Fael Illyar: This is something I just had to buy :)

Tarmel Udimo: ****Howlllzzzzzzzz****

Tarmel Udimo: ****Howlllzzzzzzzz****

Tarmel Udimo: wow no this is wonderful

Wol Euler: I love the soft flexy butterfly wings holding up this huge heavy lizard

Wol Euler: NPIRL indeed

Tarmel Udimo: (without being simplistic about it, women or open and men penetrate end of story:)

Tarmel Udimo: NPIRL?

Wol Euler grins

Wol Euler: Not Possible In Real Life

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh

Tarmel Udimo: yes if only

Fael Illyar: different color versions available :)

Tarmel Udimo: nice

Tarmel Udimo: this would have taken a lot to create no?

Fael Illyar: Yes, most likely :)

Wol Euler: oh yes, a huge amount of time and effort.

Tarmel Udimo: I want to learn how to do that

Wol Euler: yet they are actually quite cheap (Grendel's Children)

Wol Euler: most avs there are under $200 compared with about $800 for an outfit at RFyre or AVid

Tarmel Udimo: I've been there a few times now but could never make my mind up

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh the globe

Fael Illyar: this was a freebie from somewhere.

Fael Illyar: oh, typing "animation" :)

Tarmel Udimo: nice, like it

Fael Illyar: if you're not feeling like being too complex, this works :)

Tarmel Udimo: can you move?

Tarmel Udimo: hehehe

Tarmel Udimo: yes one letter thoughts

Tarmel Udimo: oh oh

I changed into a "satellite" av that I had started to build.

Tarmel Udimo: have to go Wol?

Fael Illyar: joining the fun and changing AV I think :)

Tarmel Udimo: oh

Fael Illyar: this is a ghostly AV :)

Fael Illyar: pretty simple though :)

Tarmel Udimo: yes very impressive

Tarmel Udimo: oh wol-e

Wol Euler: :)

Tarmel Udimo: very unyou :)

Fael Illyar: oh, Wol's got a ball AV too :)

Wol Euler: yes, it feels quite cold and uncomfortable

Wol Euler: that's why I gave up working on it

Wol Euler: I need to have skin and hair to feel comfortable in SL

Fael has the best av of the day though: A book, complete with turning pages and bookmark.

Tarmel Udimo: a book and a ball

Wol Euler: oh wow, Fael, that is marvellous.

Tarmel Udimo: yes it is unique

Fael Illyar: this one is a 1Lbie from Grendel's Children :)

Wol Euler: wow! need need covet covet

Tarmel Udimo: wow

Constance joins us, and gives the conversation a nudge towards literature.

Fael Illyar: Hello Constance :)

Tarmel Udimo: hehehe its very you too wol

Wol Euler: yes, it could be!

Tarmel Udimo: you even get the space to rock

Fael Illyar: you can hide on the ground too :)

Wol Euler: :)

Tarmel Udimo: Hi Constance

Fael Illyar: the perfect hide in plain sight AV :)

Wol Euler: hello constance

Tarmel Udimo: must remember

Tarmel Udimo: an AV after your own taste - Wol

Wol Euler: very much so.

Wol Euler: heheh

Tarmel Udimo: i was going to step on the book and see what happened

Fael Illyar: Oh :)

Constance Fairport: hello

Wol Euler: don't mind us, we were just having fun with alternate avs :)

Tarmel Udimo: can't stand on you Fael

Constance Fairport: don't mind me, i'm just wandering around before breakfast

During this time, I was reading Constance's profile and considering her avatar.

Wol Euler: is "The Mills of God" a roleplay sim in SL?

Constance Fairport: no --- a book available in hardcover

Constance Fairport: although a sim in SL might not be a bad idea

Constance Fairport: wow!!

Wol Euler: Constance, you've got a personal shape, good clothes and hair, an AO, a photo of yourself in your profile -- and you're only 18 days old? You're either an alt or a _very_ fast learner :)

Constance Fairport: this is like a dream i had once

Tarmel Udimo: wow is right

Tarmel Udimo: yes Constance?

Constance Fairport: alt?

Fael Illyar smiles and keeps flapping.

Tarmel Udimo: your dream?

Constance Fairport: no --- i was in sl about a year ago and killed off my character

Wol Euler: ah :)

Constance Fairport: this time i knew what i wanted and joined a lot of groups quickly

Wol Euler nods. Many people do start again ...

Constance Fairport: and this outfit is in honor of spring --- it seemed like a good idea at the time

Tarmel Udimo: looks good

Constance Fairport: i feel better...

Wol Euler: good!

Constance Fairport: jeez

Constance Fairport: don't sting me!

Fael Illyar: this one tends to scare people a bit :)

Tarmel Udimo: yes it would

Constance Fairport: the extent of my "walks on the wild side" amount to trying on new outfits

Wol Euler smiles.

Tarmel Udimo: well sounds like Wol

Wol Euler: we were talking about that earlier, actually. Fael changes much more than tarmel or I

Wol Euler: we stay human/female almost all the time

Constance Fairport: oh my god, you're a flea?

Tarmel Udimo: beetle?

Fael Illyar: just a beetle :)

Constance Fairport: oh

Constance Fairport: i'm not up on my entymology

Constance Fairport: a t-rex?

Constance Fairport: a baby one

Fael Illyar: baby t-rex :)

Tarmel Udimo: ahhh back to swamp era

Constance Fairport: or a velociraptor

Tarmel Udimo: watch out Wol

Constance Fairport: lol

Tarmel Udimo: ****Howlllzzzzzzzz****

Wol Euler: heheh

Constance Fairport: hear me roar

Tarmel Udimo: nice doggy

Constance Fairport: i'm a cat person myself

Tarmel Udimo: yes me too

Tarmel Udimo: well an animal person:)

Tarmel Udimo: ahh back to Fael again

Constance notices the autologger.

Constance Fairport: our brilliant remarks are being recorded?

Wol Euler: not necessarily :)

Wol Euler: I can filter it out of the log, we stopped the serious discusion long ago

Fael Illyar: Yes, not necessarily :)

Wol Euler: insofar as it ever actually started, today ...

Fael Illyar: we had serious discussion? :)

Wol Euler: exactly.

Constance Fairport: what do you talk about when you're serious

Tarmel Udimo: yes my very Q:)

Wol Euler: well, in theory this is the 1am meeting of a meditation and discussion group called Play as Being

Wol Euler: we gather to discuss our practices and matters arising from them

Constance Fairport: i have a lot of interests: philosophy, poetry, mathematics

Wol Euler: but Friday mornings are often just chat

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Wol Euler: and yes, the meetings are recorded and published on our website.

Wol Euler: Not however without consent, which is why I said it could be edited out.

Constance Fairport: i don't mind anyone reading what i have to saY --- for what it's worth

Wol Euler: Constance, may we ahve your permission to include your name and comments in the published log?

Wol Euler: ty :)

Constance Fairport: sure!

Wol Euler: crosstyping :)

Wol Euler: I'll give you a notecard that says a bit about who we are.

Constance Fairport: thanks

Fael Illyar: :)

Constance Fairport: here's a poem

Wol Euler: ty

Constance Fairport: i love the discussions at the kira cafe

Fael Illyar smiles.

Wol Euler: ah!

Fael Illyar: Nice poem :)

Wol Euler: then you already are vaguely associated with us, PaB is a child of Kira

Constance Fairport: thanks!

Fael Illyar: PaB has meetings here every day at 1am, 7am, 1pm and 7pm

Fael Illyar: And no, not everyone is present in every meeting :)

Constance Fairport: ok, i'll be here when I can

Tarmel Udimo: back, loveley poem Constance

Constance Fairport: i've gone to some wonderful meetings where someone knocks on my office door and says "meeting starting in 5 minutes, get a move on"

Constance Fairport: i mean i have to disconnect immedately

Wol Euler nods

Wol Euler: RL happens...

Tarmel Udimo: my grandmother's name was Constance

Tarmel Udimo: its one of those lovely old fashioned ones

Constance Fairport: so was my favority aunt

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Constance Fairport: a minor movie star

Fael Illyar: :)

Tarmel Udimo: is the Mills of God good?

Constance Fairport: absolutely!

Wol Euler: I was just about to ask :)

Wol Euler: what's it about?

Constance Fairport: it's gotten a few good reviews

Wol Euler: (shall we sit?)

Constance Fairport: let's

Constance Fairport: it begins with a murder

Constance Fairport: then, later (15 years) my parents die in a suspicious car accident

Constance Fairport: i'm the last in the Fairchild line

Wol Euler nods. An interesting start.

Tarmel Udimo: nods

Constance Fairport: (in the sequel, I learn that my grandfather may have murdered my parents)

Wol Euler: o.O

Constance Fairport: i'm sent away to a swiss bording school (and not allowed to go to the funeral)

Tarmel Udimo: ok

Constance Fairport: i have always believed that i was reincarnated

Constance Fairport: (the first line of the original version of the novel was)

Constance Fairport: I was 12w when I realized i was a ghost

Tarmel Udimo: wow nice

Wol Euler: wow

(At this point I was interrupted by work, and by the time I was finished I had both crashed out of SL and run down my laptop's battery. Fael, Tarmel and Constance carried on without me.)

Constance Fairport: several publishers insisted on it being changed (is she like Casper the Friendly ghost --- i don't get it)

Constance Fairport: in switzerland I make the first friends i ever have and find odd clues to my past life

Constance Fairport: i find things left over from it

Tarmel Udimo: BRB

Constance Fairport: my grandfather dies, leaving everything to me

Constance Fairport: but i have to contend with his evil minions --- who want to take over

Constance Fairport: they can't --- easily --- because the family corporation's charter says all strategic decisions must be approved by a Fairchild

Constance Fairport: my grandfather's effort to protect me

Constance Fairport: they find a way --- though --- by killing me in a particular way

Constance Fairport: going further would be Telling

Constance Fairport: anyway --- there's also a sequel (and two more in the works)

Fael Illyar: sounds quite a twisty tale :)

Constance Fairport: it is a convoluted plot

Constance Fairport: oh --- the person whose book i'm promoting is stirring

Constance Fairport: i'll have to go --- but it was wonderful meeting you guys! I'll be back

Fael Illyar: Sure, see you later Constance :)

Constance Fairport: bye

Tarmel Udimo: back

Fael Illyar: wb :)

Fael Illyar: Wol crashed I think, Constance left

Tarmel Udimo: oh oh was it me:)

Tarmel Udimo: well I might head over to the Feral place and see what's happening over there

Tarmel Udimo: I think its Lost worlds

Fael Illyar: Sure, see you later Tarmel :)

Tarmel Udimo: bye fael

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