2009.11.09 13:00 - Intuition

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Stim Morane but Gaya posted the log.

    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Scath and Stim :)
    Stim Morane: Hi Gaya and Scathach!
    Gaya Ethaniel: How are you both?
    Scathach Rhiadra: um, hello invisible people:)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Stim Morane: are we invisible?
    Scathach Rhiadra: you are to me:)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bolonath :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Stim Morane: hopefully that will change ...
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Qt and Wol :)
    Stim Morane: Hi bolonath, QT
    Wol Euler: hello invisibles
    Bolonath Crystal: hi qt and wol
    Qt Core: hi all
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Yakuzza :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Bolonath Crystal: hi yak
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bolo, Qt, Wol, Mary
    Stim Morane: Hi Wol, Yakuzza
    Wol Euler: hello scath, qt, bolo, gaya, stim, yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi everyone!!
    Wol Euler: hello sophia, mary
    Bolonath Crystal: hello sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia waves
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mary and SophiaSharon :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: hello SophiaSharon, Yakuzza
    Stim Morane: Hi Sophia, Mary
    Bolonath Crystal: oh, hello mary. didn't see you right behind me ;)
    Gaya Ethaniel: There is an event going on at a Buddhist centre I go on Mondays so I could make this session :D
    Wol Euler: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Vector
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Vector!
    Bolonath Crystal: hi vector
    Vector Marksman: hi
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Vector :)
    Vector Marksman: hi
    Wol Euler: hello doug, vector
    Bolonath Crystal: lots of helloing today ;) hi doug
    Stim Morane: hi doug, vector
    doug Sosa: :) shhh.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Wol Euler: vector, have you been here before?
    Vector Marksman: No, I have been here, but I know a little about PAB
    Bolonath Crystal: afk
    Wol Euler: good :) Do you know that we record and publish these sessions?
    Vector Marksman: yes
    Wol Euler: good :)
    Wol Euler: ((we have to ask, it's in the TOS.))
    Vector Marksman: like reading my Miranda rights
    Wol Euler: very much so :)
    Wol Euler: hello zen
    Zen Arado: Hi all
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Zen
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Zen :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Is it quiet or I am lagging?
    Bolonath Crystal: hi zen
    Wol Euler: it's quiet :)
    Bolonath Crystal: the one doesn't exclude the other ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :D
    Gaya Ethaniel: I had a strange day today. I found out that if things were usual last week, I could have been in the middle of a murder.
    Gaya Ethaniel: murder scene*
    Wol Euler: O.O
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :0
    Mary Korpov: Sounds like a killer of a day
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Wol Euler: lucky that you missed it.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods. I feel very lucky.
    Zen Arado: in a big city?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Something happened, unrelated, and I couldn't be at the place at that time.
    Bolonath Crystal: hi ara
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Zen Arado: Hi Arabella
    Wol Euler waves hello
    Zen Arado: it was fate?
    Gaya Ethaniel: It reminded me of how I missed the bombing in London. I moved away just before and missed it while my colleague who travels with me in the morning got caught up.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: fortuitous change in circumstance for you, reminds me how casual events to us can have such rippling effects.
    Wol Euler nods
    Zen Arado: maybe you intuited the event somehow. Do you think this is possible?
    Gaya Ethaniel waves at arabella who is a puff of clouds :)
    arabella Ella: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: i think, it is possible
    arabella Ella: how can i fix that Wol?
    Mary Korpov: I don't think we can preduct the future; just a fortunate considence
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sometimes I know when I may break a plate for example purely because I feel tired etc. but never a long-term I don't think.
    Zen Arado: our thinking minds might obscure our intuitive faculty
    Vector Marksman: can you say how this knowledge affected your view of the day
    Wol Euler: hello mick
    Bolonath Crystal: hi mick
    Gaya Ethaniel: plate while washing-up*
    Zen Arado: Hi Mick
    Stim Morane: hi arabella, Mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi everyone
    Gaya Ethaniel waves at Mick who is invisible :)
    arabella Ella: hiya Micko
    Mickorod Renard: coooiiiii
    Zen Arado: was just reading Seung Sahn who says something along these lines
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok ... I'm lagging and missing some lines so not ignoring any questions/comments on purpose :)
    Bolonath Crystal: the voice of intuition is a quiet one. we may overhear it by thinking too 'loud'
    Zen Arado: exactly Bolo
    Mickorod Renard: maybe our thinking minds are like a check..sort of safety aspect to just acting from impulde
    Mary Korpov: I'm not really sure what intuition is
    Zen Arado: knowing something other than by logical thought
    Zen Arado: I think :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Mary Korpov: I'm not sure I can know things other than through logical thought
    Zen Arado: it is not familiar to us
    Mary Korpov: not to me, at least
    Mickorod Renard: maybe the knowing from instinct is just knowing from embedded past experience?
    Zen Arado: one of the things we learn through meditation?
    Zen Arado: we 'know' too much maybe
    Bolonath Crystal: it happens to me quite often. and i learned to rely on it
    Mary Korpov: I don't really learn anything through meditation. Meditation seems to me to be the antithesis of learning.
    Wol Euler: I think intuition is one name for a variety of non-verbal or pre-verbal understanding, appreciation directly from the senses without brain filtering
    Zen Arado: maybe unlearning then
    Mary Korpov: Brain filters everything. We can't experience anything without the brain.
    Zen Arado: could be Wol
    Zen Arado: the mind
    Zen Arado: body mind?
    Mary Korpov: How are mind and brain different?
    Bolonath Crystal: it is amazing, how much is happening in the brain without reaching consciousness
    Zen Arado: other senses we don't have full awareness of
    Mary Korpov: I don't really believe in "mind" at least not as something other than brain
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes intuition is when we acknowledge a positive outcome rather than a negative one,,yet the results overall if observed are no more positive than negative
    Zen Arado: that's a big question Mary
    Mary Korpov: or a small one
    Qt Core: i just thing it something from the "multithread" nature of our brain way to process things
    Qt Core: while we follow one of those anothers come up with an interpretation
    Mickorod Renard: I come across lots of people that make many mistakes yet only accept the positive ones are their responsibility
    Qt Core: a new thought
    Mary Korpov: Makes sense Qt. We multiprocess at a tremendous rate; enough so to give the appearance in our brains that there is something more going on than the processing
    Wol Euler: right, which is why I spoke of "understanding", just without reasoned words
    Mary Korpov: I'm not sure that is understanding; maybe it is. But it is still brain processes
    Wol Euler: similar in a way to body memory, that too comes from the brain-as-organ but wihtout thought
    Mary Korpov: yes, Wol, body memory is similar
    Wol Euler: hello storm
    Zen Arado: our thinking mind is so powerful it might shut out other ways of understanding
    Mary Korpov: Odd, it smells as though the hotel I am in is burning.
    arabella Ella: Hiya Storm
    Bolonath Crystal: hi storm
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Zen Arado: Hi Storm
    Storm Nordwind whispers "Hi guys!"
    Stim Morane: Hi Storm
    Mickorod Renard: I dont accept that we can create a reliable intuition without being open to our mistakes and be able to evaluate them
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Storm
    Mary Korpov: Then it's not an intuition
    Gaya Ethaniel waves at Storm :)
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Mary Korpov: OK!!!!!
    Mickorod Renard: OOPS,,sorry for shouting
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Zen Arado: we allow it to grow
    Mary Korpov: What kind of plant?
    Mickorod Renard: a delicate rose
    Bolonath Crystal: in our everyday-state-of-mind there is alway an inner dialogue going on. in meditation we learn to stop this permanent chatting. and if we manage to become very quiet, we may hear the voice of intuition clearly. otherwise it just pops up sometimes, or at least seems to do that
    Mary Korpov: Why not grass?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes very delicate
    Storm Nordwind trained himself to discriminate between "intuitive" input and imagined input. Took a few years to get it reliable. Perhaps that's like yours Mick
    Mary Korpov: Roses have thorns
    Gaya Ethaniel nods. Or notice your body doing something a bit strange ... or new.
    Qt Core: it just put some little piece of paper with subtle hints under our door ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: I like to think I have a good intuition,,but its not faultless
    Zen Arado: mine is rubbish
    Mary Korpov: I don't really seem to have intuition. Things just happen.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Wol Euler: hello fox
    Bolonath Crystal: hi fox
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Fox
    Zen Arado: Hi Fox
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i rely on intuition at work some times, when something doesnt feel right
    Fox Monacular: hello everyone
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Fox :)
    Bolonath Crystal: just like me, sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Mary Korpov: I make a concerted effort to avoid anything that might smack of intuition
    Wol Euler: why?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its been invaluable
    Mary Korpov: It is not logical
    Zen Arado: hoping to develop mine but I think too much
    arabella Ella: hiya Fox
    Wol Euler: ... and therefore?
    Mary Korpov: I am more likely to make an error
    arabella Ella: what is logic to you Mary and why do you trust it so much?
    Mickorod Renard: I am often aware when I have to go against my intuition,,for the benefit of the biggger picture,,I almost always would have been right to follow my intuition
    Zen Arado: doesn't creativity depend on intuition?
    Mary Korpov: Logic is rational thought. working through a problem. I trust it because it works
    Storm Nordwind is glad to have use of both left and right brain input. That way I am less likely to make an error
    Wol Euler smiles
    Qt Core: mary, there is difference from wild guess and considering, not just plainly accep a background process results ;-)
    Mary Korpov: I don't believe much in the left/right brain stuff either
    arabella Ella: but logic is based on perception which may be faulty and on axioms which can never be justified completely
    Storm Nordwind: Left brain people rarely do Mary! :)
    Bolonath Crystal: *g*
    Wol Euler laughs
    Zen Arado: ans initial assumptions which are usually inaccurate
    Mary Korpov: Of course, faulty assumptions lead to mistakes, that is obvious
    Mary Korpov: My brain runs throughout my head, so I'm neither left nor right
    Zen Arado: so how do you know when you are starting with faulty assumptions?
    Mary Korpov: Well, at least I think it does. Since I haven't looked inside I can't be sure
    arabella Ella: or limited or faulty perception?
    Mary Korpov: observation can help, but you can't be sure that an assumption is right or wrong
    arabella Ella: or basic premises which cannot ever be justified?
    Mary Korpov: What else do you have other than perception?
    Zen Arado: and lead to 'wrong' conclusions
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nothing. :))
    Mary Korpov: These are good question, but I don't see how the answer "intuition" is any better than reason
    Wol Euler: I don't think anyone said ti was, Mary.
    Zen Arado: reason is powerful
    Bolonath Crystal: i think it depends on the situation
    Mary Korpov: It was implied, Wol
    Mickorod Renard: not everyone has the same values,,my positives today may well not have appeared positive years ago,,when I was more ,,erm,,ruthless
    Zen Arado: but we shouldnt dismiss intuition
    arabella Ella: who implied it Mary?
    arabella Ella: surely I did not?
    Mary Korpov: But how can I respond to intuition when I don't seem to have it?
    Bolonath Crystal: everyone has it
    Storm Nordwind is an irrational non-linear thinker. That (and intruition) is what made him a top-class software engineer :)
    Mary Korpov: I don't
    Bolonath Crystal: but not everyone listens
    Mickorod Renard: maybe you call it something else
    arabella Ella: yea Storm :)
    Wol Euler: I disagree entirely, Mary. People have said that it exists and that it may be useful.
    Qt Core: you may call it otherwise
    Wol Euler: It's a tool, it doesn't exclude logic.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: exactually
    Wol Euler: screwdrivers are tools too, but I use a spoon for eating my soup
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (sp)
    Mary Korpov: I don't like the "everyone has it" approach because it reminds me of Christians who tell me that if I don't believe in god I just don't get it
    Storm Nordwind: Bravo Wol!
    Mary Korpov: Intuition = educated guess. That's ok for me
    Qt Core: educated unconscious guess for me
    Mary Korpov: If it is unconscious, how do you know you have it?
    Storm Nordwind: So who finds that the 9 second practice is good for being sensitive to their intuition?
    Wol Euler: definitely.
    arabella Ella: oh yes
    Mary Korpov: not at all
    Wol Euler: mediation in general has been good for that.
    Storm Nordwind nods
    Zen Arado: yes for me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its undeniable that what we think as random intuition is prompted by environmental triggers
    Mickorod Renard: doing what I feel is right without havin to think to hard is intuition for me
    Qt Core: when i abruptly got a solution for something i'm thinking about and a moment before i have no idea how to solve it
    Zen Arado: I get lost in mazes of thought
    Zen Arado: like Einstein discovered relativity
    Vector Marksman: "As to the mind's pilot, intuition...catch him clean and stark naked, he is first of truth tellers; dream clothed, or dirty with fears and wishes, he is prince of liars." Robinson Jeffers (poet)
    Zen Arado: it wasn't all rational thought
    arabella Ella: lovely quote Vector thanks for sharing it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Mickorod Renard: much goes around in circles,,if u wait long enough the thing comes around again
    Mary Korpov: Damn, smells like the hotel is burning again. Perhaps my intuition should tell me to put some clothes on...
    Bolonath Crystal: hm. let us suppose that at least many people have intuition. and if this is so, it has developed during evolution. that means, that there is a good reason for it. there must be some advantage in having intuition, otherwise it wouldn't occur so often
    Mary Korpov: Is awareness different from intuition?
    Bolonath Crystal: yes
    Qt Core: sure, having multiple thought thread save resource and time
    Wol Euler: yes, I think so.
    Zen Arado: awareness allows intuition ?
    Mary Korpov: Heightened awareness would certainly be adaptive from an evolutionary perspective
    Qt Core: so if you are chatting in sl a background thought tread may suggest you the way to ascape in case of fire
    Mickorod Renard: awareness cultivates intuition
    arabella Ella: intuition is a bit like sixth sense, like a gut feeling or instinctive sense of what to do or to think
    Mary Korpov: Well, since I keep smelling something burning, it isn't much in the background, but it is rather weak
    Mary Korpov: So I'm vaguely aware of something burning. If I get up and get dressed and then the alarm goes off and we evacuate the hotel, and then I am saved, does that mean I intuited something?
    Mickorod Renard: hell is supposed to burn
    Mary Korpov: Or is it that my awareness triggered a response.
    Storm Nordwind: I suspect we have many such senses that some people cover over. We don't have to know how these things work to still be pragmatic enough to use them.
    Mary Korpov: I'm in Montreal, not hell
    Mickorod Renard: ;)
    Zen Arado: don;t see muc intuition there Mary
    Wol Euler nods to Storm.
    Mary Korpov: Nor do I
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me either, seems clear cut
    arabella Ella: agrees with Storm
    Mary Korpov: But perhaps that is how intuition works
    Mary Korpov: Background awareness leading to a logical conclusion about one's surroundings or a ligical prediction
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it can seem that way much of the time
    Mary Korpov: If it seems that way, perhaps it IS that way
    Storm Nordwind: Well I at a complete loss to explain how dowsing/water divining works. But it does and so I have used it. Pragmatism overcomes scepticism!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive had situations where it was completely random
    Wol Euler: perhaps; the point being that it's a background process, not a conscious act of thought
    SophiaSharon Larnia: rare though
    Mary Korpov: Why can't logic operate as a background process?
    Scathach Rhiadra: good night all!
    Mickorod Renard: nite Scath
    SophiaSharon Larnia: night Scathach
    Wol Euler: 'night scath, take care
    arabella Ella: nite Scath
    Zen Arado: it isn't logic then
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good night Scath :)
    Mary Korpov: why/
    Bolonath Crystal: nite scath
    Zen Arado: bye cath
    Storm Nordwind: Bye Scáth
    Mary Korpov: A computer computes in a logical fashion without being aware of it
    Wol Euler: mary, if saying that intuition is based on unconscious logic, go ahead :) Whatever turns it into something you can accept.
    Zen Arado: logic is defined a certain way
    Mickorod Renard: maybe the brain/mind is a good probality computer?
    Mickorod Renard: probability
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sure it is
    Mary Korpov: No, Wol, I'm not interested in just twisting words to accept something; i'm interested in understanding
    Mickorod Renard: perhaps that all there is to it
    Bolonath Crystal: and what about arts? there is hardly much logic in abstract pictures, for example. but nevertheless these pictures can carry some kind of information, which is percepted by the ones who see it
    Zen Arado: we forget the way definitions and labels constrain our awareness
    Mary Korpov: That was where I was going, Mick. Perhaps we just imagine that intuition is something more than awareness
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes our telptaitions are stronger than listening to what our mind tells us about probabilities
    Mickorod Renard: temptations*
    Mickorod Renard: one day science will reduce us to explaining that we are just simple organisms
    arabella Ella: i guess some people have intuition and enjoy it, others dont ... just like other senses
    Mary Korpov: Well, we are just complex organisms
    Mickorod Renard: complex from todays piont of view,,maybe not tommorow
    Mary Korpov: Could be. Perhaps transhuman technologies will lead to our demise
    Mickorod Renard: but I like the romance of feeling special
    Storm Nordwind knows a clairvoyant who uses the term intuition to explain to people the awareness of psychic communication. Somehow makes it more acceptable apparently.
    Mary Korpov: Romance is a good word. I think it is a romantic fantasy to think that humans are in any way special
    Mickorod Renard: I like fantasy too
    Mary Korpov: Me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think its a romantic fantasy to think the body is in anyway special
    Vector Marksman: what is a fantasy?
    Bolonath Crystal: no. if humans weren't special in any way, we wouldn's recognize humans as something diferent from other animal (which are by themselves special in their own way)
    Mickorod Renard: I often think of bodies as romantic fantasy
    Mickorod Renard: but thats another story
    Mary Korpov: We aren't different from other animals, other than being a partiuclar species
    Zen Arado: I have a friend who is into psychic stuff - she told me that ppl have an aura and unexpectedly I was able to see one around her head when she showed me how to look
    Zen Arado: maybe I am gullible :)
    Bolonath Crystal: but that's exactly the point, mary
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    arabella Ella: that is so cool Zen
    Storm Nordwind: perhaps you're right on both counts Zen! :)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
    Wol Euler: :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,interesting Zen
    Bolonath Crystal: nite yak
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good night Yakuzza :)
    Zen Arado: trying to be more open lately
    Mary Korpov: All living things seem to have some sort of energy field
    Wol Euler: 'night yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Yakuzza
    Mickorod Renard: nite Yaku
    Zen Arado: bye Yaku
    Stim Morane: bye!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Stim
    Vector Marksman: bye
    Mickorod Renard: bye Stim
    Zen Arado: Bye Stim
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Stim :) Take care.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go too, take care everyone :))
    Wol Euler: bye sophia
    Mickorod Renard: bye sophia
    Zen Arado: Bye Sophia
    arabella Ella: bye Soph
    Bolonath Crystal: nite sophia
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye SophiaSharon :)
    Mickorod Renard: did u only manage it the once Zen
    Mickorod Renard: although once is amazing
    Zen Arado: only tried once
    Bolonath Crystal: maybe you could teach us, too, zen?
    Mickorod Renard: ahh,,so there is a techniquue?
    Zen Arado: don't think it works in SL though
    arabella Ella: mmmm
    Gaya Ethaniel hikes up her facelight.
    Zen Arado: I just looked at a point about 6 inches above her head in a darkish room and there it was
    Zen Arado: kind of purplish
    Mary Korpov: Maybe you imagined it?
    Zen Arado: apparently different colours for different ppl
    arabella Ella: hey Storm i can see yours
    Mary Korpov: Mine is probably black
    Zen Arado: I am not very imaginative I think :)
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to try that
    Mickorod Renard: extra perception or imagination,,maybe they cross ocver
    Bolonath Crystal grabs his cat
    Zen Arado: gave me a surprise
    arabella Ella: it is a skill i once knew someone who could do it too
    Mary Korpov: Church bells are playing a song not far from my hotel
    Zen Arado: I think mediums and speaking to the dead is a load of rubbish
    Mary Korpov: agreed, zen
    Mary Korpov: the dead are dead---and gone
    Zen Arado: but maybe I should ry to be more open
    Mickorod Renard: me too,,unless they can give you loads of money
    Zen Arado: might be things science hasn't discovered yet
    Qt Core: untill they do that in a scientific controlled environment i can't believe that
    Mary Korpov: They can't give you money becuase you can't take it with you
    Storm Nordwind: Or just try and be a Buddha instead Zen :)
    Mickorod Renard: yeah,,well they could tell me where they left it
    Mary Korpov: Perhaps he can be a Zen Buddha
    Zen Arado: yes Storm
    Zen Arado: unhealthy interest maybe
    Mary Korpov: Wow, that is really pretty
    Wol Euler: goodnight all, I have an appointment elsewhere. Enjoy your intuitions, or your logic, as appropriate.
    Zen Arado: :)
    Mickorod Renard: nite Wol
    Bolonath Crystal: nite wol
    Zen Arado: nite Wol
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good night Wol :)
    Stim Morane: I too must go. Thanks, everyone!
    Bolonath Crystal: bye stim
    arabella Ella: nite Stim
    Qt Core: bye Stim
    Stim Morane: Bye
    Zen Arado: I better go I feel :)
    Zen Arado: bye
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Zen :)
    Bolonath Crystal: bye zen
    Mickorod Renard: nite Stim
    Mary Korpov: Why don't you have a name bubble over your head, Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: nite Zen
    Mary Korpov: My goodness, now it is a Back fugue on the church bells
    Mickorod Renard: I am here in disguise
    Mary Korpov: Bach
    Storm Nordwind: Who are you really Mick?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bach?
    Bolonath Crystal: i just tried that 6 inch-thing with my cat. didn't see anything special though
    Mickorod Renard: that would be telling
    arabella Ella: were you in the dark Bolo?
    Mary Korpov: Yes, old European guy--wrote a couple of nice tunes
    Bolonath Crystal: not really, ara
    Qt Core: nobody told us if animals have it
    Gaya Ethaniel: Which one though, there are many :)
    Mary Korpov: JS
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Qt Core: or just humans with their superior mental power ;-)
    Bolonath Crystal: hm
    Mickorod Renard: you need to be careful Bol,,the 6 inch may be too much for the cat
    Mary Korpov: I wonder why it's six inches?
    arabella Ella: logical Mary
    Mary Korpov: How so?
    Mickorod Renard: get the cat to try it on you first Bol
    Bolonath Crystal: lol
    Bolonath Crystal: it always does, mick ;)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Qt Core: the distance after some weird particles our mind gave out die ?
    Storm Nordwind: Bol's cat has intuition, and is deliberately withholding its aura
    Qt Core: leaving photons around
    Mickorod Renard: ;)
    Fox Monacular: thanks everyone, have to go now
    Bolonath Crystal: anyway, it's a very special cat. i used to think, it is buddha's holiday-incarnation ;)
    Storm Nordwind: Bye Fox!
    Qt Core: bye fox
    Mickorod Renard: bye Fox
    Bolonath Crystal: nite fox
    arabella Ella: nite Fox
    Storm Nordwind: haha brilliant Bol!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Fox :)
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to leave, too. thank you all for this very inspiring discussion
    Bolonath Crystal: bfn, om shanti :)
    Mickorod Renard: see u Bol
    Qt Core: bye Bolonath
    arabella Ella: nite Bolo
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good night Bolonath :)
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Mickorod Renard: I am going now too,,bye all
    Mary Korpov: time to put on some clothes and go find the hotel gym
    Qt Core: bye mary, have fun
    Gaya Ethaniel: Must be off too. Good night everyone :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye Mary
    arabella Ella: nite Gaya
    Qt Core: bye Gaya
    Storm Nordwind: Goodnight Gaya
    arabella Ella: i must go too
    arabella Ella: nite all
    Qt Core: 'night ara
    Storm Nordwind: Namaste
    Qt Core: ciao

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