2009.11.10 07:00 - Yak Anti Idol

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.  A very pleasent chat between Yakuzza and I.  There are some good exchanges toward the end.

    But, first I desire to tell you of 2 bird stories.  Which could have been emailed to the group, but here they are.

    I have known this lady for probably 15-20 years.  Her son is only a couple years younger then mine.  We have 3 common interests that we shared until today.  I had never known ser was a (now retired) high school french teacher.  This is a lady who only talked about her son and her husband.
    I sat listenning to her new passion.  She started volunteering at the SPCA.  she started helping animals.  This last weeks she has been up north washing birds.  Seems there is a sea algae that the sea birds preen off their feathers into their stomachs and it kills them.  The birds that live far out to sea are being captured, brought to store and washed.  Her eyes were in tears of both joy and sadness.  Talking of washing a wild bird.  How the wild bird must be traumatized over capture, travel, washing, humans, transport back and release.
    Paint those images into your readership.

    Second, http://www.montereyherald.com/local/ci_13753045?nclick_check=1 (might work).  Imagine your a farm worker.  You find a Golden Eagle dazed and confused in a vineyard.  Of course you take it home.  Later you take the injured thing to the Rehabilitation Center.  Did you know we had a Wildlife Rehabilitation Center?  There are people there that know what to do with an Eagle! Did you know that out there in your community amoungst the liers, thiefs, bad guys, politians, car sales people, rapist, murderers and software engineers are caring people?  There are people who care about and for the Golden Eagles and the Condors and the sea otters.

    BTW - the Aquarium released the Great White Shark they had rescued and had on exhibit for a month.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddle
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Yaku
    Riddle Sideways: how are you today
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fine thx, just came home and had a package with cheap stuff from china :P
    Ok, so I observe the bell silence, but do not expect everybody/anybody else to.
    Riddle Sideways: wow, presents
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, sure but only because presents don´t have to be taxed up to 25€ :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: in germany
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but they wouldn´t even have to declare those gifts
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it was
    Riddle Sideways: I am not completely understanding
    Yakuzza Lethecus: didn´t recognize the bell
    Riddle Sideways: s'ok
    Riddle Sideways: was this stuff you ordered or somebody sent to you
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes i ordered that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and car charger,fm transmitter and videocable
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for my ipod touch
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for 12 $ including shipping
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s ridicouous
    Riddle Sideways: ah good, but taxed
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not when it´s below 25€ value
    Riddle Sideways: shipping and taxes are the most
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so no VAT
    Riddle Sideways: I been thinking about taxes alot lately
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ridiculous

    Riddle Sideways: we had an election last week
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cal is on the edge of bancrupcy
    Riddle Sideways: things that would have been good or bad were simply decided on the taxes basis
    Yakuzza Lethecus: new govenor for cal ?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, the beautiful state of cal is going down
    Riddle Sideways: no gov yet
    Yakuzza Lethecus: governor
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i chat about those topics too less
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t have the proper vocabluar :P
    Riddle Sideways: not sure when the govanator is running

    Yakuzza Lethecus: what was elected ?
    Riddle Sideways: s'ok
    Riddle Sideways: just some measures that the government could not / would not decide themselves
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i didn´t know that the people can make some decisions directly in cal
    Riddle Sideways: my local area is unincorporated part of the county
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, it wasn´t california
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it was ur local area ?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, when the decision is too contraversal
    Riddle Sideways: legisature puts it on the ballot
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i guess thats a good thing to create more acceptance for the decisions
    Yakuzza Lethecus: especially when it´s controversial
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what did you elect exactly ?

    Riddle Sideways: nothing... 52% voted not to made us a city
    Riddle Sideways: so nobody got elected to town council
    Riddle Sideways: we are going to stay part of a going bankrupt county
    Riddle Sideways: rather then try to go it alone on our taxes
    Riddle Sideways: there were so many people passionate about it
    Riddle Sideways: not sure why it did not matter to me
    Riddle Sideways: but, so many were up in arms about it
    Riddle Sideways: on both sides
    Yakuzza Lethecus: our local town is also brankrupt
    Riddle Sideways: the 'no' group went around at night taking the 'Yes' signs away
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that´s passionate :)
    Riddle Sideways: the 'yes' group spent lots and lots of money
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and nothing happened
    Riddle Sideways: nope
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so all for nothing
    Riddle Sideways: yep
    Riddle Sideways: that may be the point

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i was never active in politics, have you ?
    Riddle Sideways: yes and no
    Riddle Sideways: am embrassed to say, but was very active in the anti-politics movement
    Riddle Sideways: went throught a very 'anti' time in youth
    Yakuzza Lethecus: anti politics or anti bureaucracy ?
    Riddle Sideways: anti-war, anti-politics, anti-establishment

    Yakuzza Lethecus: Anarchie!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have to say not long ago i didn´t know that there are even deeper thoughts about anarchism
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i always thought that it´s about chaos what it´s not
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i might have to find good lectures about political concepts
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i hear a lot of podcasts and lectures on audio
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i even heard all of stims tuesday sessions :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i remember not that much, even when in situations i remember
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you got the link to stims recordings ?
    Riddle Sideways: no, could you show me
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://berkeleymonastery.org/steven/
    Oh boy, now I can hear all that anarchist podcast steven/stim type stuff :)
    Riddle Sideways: TY
    Yakuzza Lethecus: de nada
    Riddle Sideways: it was period when I did nothing in moderation
    Riddle Sideways: even did mediation to extreme :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i try to get too much control, and in fact i guess i feel that i loose so many things in order to control a situation
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so thats what i often think about
    Riddle Sideways: is good to think your way
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am at work and a coworker counts the time until we can call it a day
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and even i do and did that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so i am just not in the moment
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so what pap and what mindfullness practice is in general about is very interesting for me but i don´t try to ,,force it"
    Riddle Sideways: ah, we notice something in another and then in ourselves
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nods
    Riddle Sideways: force, control, pushing, etc. don't work and don't feel good
    Riddle Sideways: the gift of just receiving
    Riddle Sideways: the gift of just giving
    Riddle Sideways: and the gift of neither

    Riddle Sideways: we breathe
    Riddle Sideways: are we "taking" a breath?
    Riddle Sideways: has the earth given us air?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t breath deeply very often
    Riddle Sideways: without mindfulness (mostly) we breath
    Riddle Sideways: sometimes we study the breathing
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and some mediation cd´s just showed me that there have been regions of my body i didn´t even thought about unless they were in pain
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so most of the time i am in the future or in the past
    Yakuzza Lethecus: with my mind
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or with something, always busy but never here
    Riddle Sideways: yes, and the present (presents, presence) goes on without your mindfulness
    Riddle Sideways: if you must control, why can these things go on without you controling them
    Riddle Sideways: and so Life goes on. Within you and without you

    Riddle Sideways loves that song
    Riddle Sideways: as a teen I picked up a guitar and started to play
    Riddle Sideways: George Harrison taught me from the radio
    Riddle Sideways: then he taught me about more then guitar
    Riddle Sideways: all things must pass

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i don´t have many idol´s and i never had
    Yakuzza Lethecus: whats not a good thing
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s more or less being in a void about understanding whats truely a virture in life
    Riddle Sideways: not idol worship... more like hearing what Yakuzza has to teach me about virture
    Riddle Sideways: and thanking for the teaching
    Riddle Sideways: to hold you up as an example
    Riddle Sideways: to try your methods
    Riddle Sideways: then go on
    Riddle Sideways: B.B. King, Storm, mr. Smith, that guy in the commercial, the glad lady and whatshername have so much to teach me
    Riddle Sideways: it may look like we idolize them, but we pass on
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx riddle
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, but I must go to RL now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: have a good day
    Riddle Sideways: would like it to go longer
    Riddle Sideways: but
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    Originally written on 13:44, 11 Nov 2009
    Ah, Riddle! Thanks for writing about this!! Our local science museum is also a wildlife rehabilitation center, and I once had quite a talk with one of the volunteers about their collaborations with the zoo, etc. One of the animals they care for is blind turkey vulture named Vincent, who has lived there 30 years! Another is yes, a beautiful golden eagle who everyone is afraid to deal with... all that natural power to fly and to hunt, "contained".
    There are people everywhere quietly doing Good Work, huh? :)
    Posted 12:17, 9 Apr 2010
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