2009.11.27 13:00 - just a friday 1 pm

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Yakuzza Lethecus. The comments are by Yakuzza Lethecus.

    Fael Illyar: ca on
    Fael Illyar: Hi Geoff :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Yak :)
    Geoff Baily: can i join you again
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya everyone :)
    Fael Illyar: Of course, it's an open meeting :)
    Wol Euler: hello geoff
    Yakuzza Lethecus: geoff ur new ?
    Wol Euler: 12 days old, it says here ;)
    Geoff Baily: thaks hello everyone
    Fael Illyar: Hi Qt :)
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Qt Core: hi all
    Geoff Baily: yes this is the second time for me here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so you have been introduced ?
    Wol Euler: and you know about the recorder.
    Geoff Baily: not really
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i do that in pm
    Geoff Baily: yes
    Geoff Baily: thanks for the information
    Bertram Jacobus: hy every body ! ... :-)
    Wol Euler: hello bert, calvino, zen
    Zen Arado: Hi All:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello all!
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bert, Zen, Calvino, Sharon :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi sophia
    Wol Euler: hello sharon
    Zen Arado: Hi Sophia
    Qt Core: hi new ones, got a little distracted
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
    Geoff Baily: hi everyone
    Archmage Atlantis: None here are new
    Qt Core: (new as in just arrived)
    Archmage Atlantis: All bllong
    Bertram Jacobus: bllong ?
    Zen Arado: we are new every moment :)
    Archmage Atlantis: belong
    Bertram Jacobus: old, new ... relative ... ;o)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, i still work on that newness :)
    Archmage Atlantis: We are also old every moment
    Zen Arado: if we carry the past around with us ?
    Archmage Atlantis: Because we carry the past, as information
    SophiaSharon Larnia: dropping what you have is dropping the past too
    Fael Illyar: yes, remembering the past is what makes for old...
    Zen Arado: I am the oldest here I am sure
    Zen Arado: in years
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, i can´t imagine
    Bertram Jacobus: how old are you ? :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok, maybe in this round today
    Zen Arado: hate to reveal :)
    Fael Illyar raises a hand "28!"
    Wol Euler: teaser.
    Bertram Jacobus: ok. not necessairy :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: I chose not to drop my past, it has value
    Archmage Atlantis: I also chose to become new in every moment
    Zen Arado: some are old in attitude
    Zen Arado: set in their ways and preudices
    Geoff Baily: i'm 65 but new each second
    Fael Illyar: Zen, yes, that's those who can't let the past go.
    Zen Arado: ha ha I beat you
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m not sure whether there is really a choice
    Zen Arado: I'm 66
    Bertram Jacobus: 54 here ... :-)
    Wol Euler: yes, you probably win :)
    Wol Euler: 51
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but only today :)
    Zen Arado: welcome to the old folks home :)
    Geoff Baily: you just beat me? Zen!!
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Fael Illyar feels happily at home he old folks home.
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia is laughing for reals
    Archmage Atlantis: My cat, Nimbus, is 18....I think he wins
    Zen Arado: great age for a cat :)
    Wol Euler: mhmm
    Zen Arado: feel better that you aren't all kids :)
    Wol Euler: well, what does age mean?
    Fael Illyar: the average age at PaB is pretty high :)
    Bertram Jacobus: experience for example
    Fael Illyar: I'm almost the youngest
    Wol Euler: I feel younger now than I did in my late twenties
    Zen Arado: me too Wol
    Bertram Jacobus: and there are silly old people and wise young ones ...
    Fael Illyar: I feel younger now than a few years ago :D
    Bertram Jacobus: and vice versa ;o)
    Bertram Jacobus: i get older every year - one year each ;-)
    Zen Arado: but when you start get treated like a doddery old fool....
    Archmage Atlantis: Putting names and ages on my spreadsheet
    Bertram Jacobus: then that´s normal
    Zen Arado: ageism
    Wol Euler nods. The assumptions start to hurt.
    Zen Arado: but it's ego I guess
    Zen Arado: and maybe I am a doddery old fool :)
    Zen Arado: why worry?
    Archmage Atlantis: Hurt gives power
    Calvino Rabeni: A A is right
    Bertram Jacobus: my lama healed me from my illusion that i meant i had to be forever young
    Zen Arado: is society becoming more ageist do you think?
    Bertram Jacobus: hey bolo ! :-)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Bolo
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bolo :)
    Wol Euler: hello bolonath
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bolonath
    Zen Arado: Hi Zon
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    Fael Illyar: Hi Zon :)
    Qt Core: hi bolonath, zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Zon
    Bertram Jacobus: hy zon :-)
    Zon Quar: hi all
    Bertram Jacobus: zen and zon could fill the circle :o)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-))
    Zon Quar: cmon zen
    Bertram Jacobus: yeah ! :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Wol Euler cheers. Bonus karma points for us all.
    Zen Arado: you have OCD ?
    Zon Quar: now we r perfect circle
    Zen Arado: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: was that word onigoko ? :-)
    Wol Euler: with two "k"s
    Bertram Jacobus: ah ! ty ! :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: onigokko ? :-)
    Zen Arado: what does thaT MEAN?
    Zon Quar: 12 apostles
    Zen Arado: ah
    Bertram Jacobus: nothing happens ... hm - wol ?
    Wol Euler: just the word on its own...
    Bertram Jacobus: onigokko
    Wol Euler: that#s what it means :)
    Fael Illyar: ah, too late :)
    Bertram Jacobus: lol. ty ... :-))
    Zon Quar: lol
    Fael Illyar: stop
    Archmage Atlantis: Are there 12 in the circle?
    Fael Illyar: onigokko
    Zon Quar: time to celebrate
    Wol Euler: friday!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Bertram Jacobus: stop
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is there an insanity defence for this ? :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: !!
    Zon Quar: no defence needed
    SophiaSharon Larnia: now laughing at everyone sitting omg
    Fael Illyar giggles.
    Bertram Jacobus: lol. sry. can´t give it to others at the mom ...
    Wol Euler: we'll have to do that in RL at the retreat in Malta
    Bolonath Crystal: *g*
    Bertram Jacobus: would be funny :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: arms in the aiiiir ! :o)
    Archmage Atlantis: Clarity as insanity
    SophiaSharon Larnia: can see people running into each other though
    Zen Arado: ty Fael
    Wol Euler: I'm sure we'll work someting out
    Bertram Jacobus: or better insanity as clarity ?
    Zon Quar: ty..how does it work
    Fael Illyar: wear it and say onigokko :)
    Zon Quar: onigokko
    Fael Illyar: no need to stand :)
    Zon Quar: LOL
    Bertram Jacobus: simply wear it . yes and stiop if you wish to stop :-))
    Wol Euler: geoff, do you want one?
    Bertram Jacobus: stop i meant :o)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: stop
    Zon Quar: puuuuuff
    Wol Euler: stop
    Fael Illyar: stop
    Zen Arado: getting too old for this :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Zon Quar: never too old to rock n roll
    Bertram Jacobus: don´t think so ;-)
    Archmage Atlantis: One is never too old
    Bolonath Crystal: i hope i die before i'm getting too old for that ;)
    Bertram Jacobus: agree
    Zen Arado: easy in SL
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Fael Illyar: when you can't handle being silly, you know you're getting old for real :)
    Zen Arado: the Who are still going though
    Wol Euler: and teh Stones, though Mick's old enough for a pension
    Bertram Jacobus: you´re getting old when the music in the supermarket begins to be yours i found out (!) ... ;o)
    Zen Arado: and the rest
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Bertam
    Bertram Jacobus: :-))
    Archmage Atlantis: I prefer the new artists
    Zen Arado: Carpenters ;)
    Zen Arado: why do we tend to only like music from our youth?
    Wol Euler: O.O
    Zon Quar: hm
    Bolonath Crystal: do we?
    Zon Quar: we ?
    Wol Euler: do we? (quick poll)
    Zen Arado: think so
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I don't now, idn't like it then either
    Wol Euler: I don't, thre's very little from then that I still listen to
    Zon Quar: music is linked with emotions
    Qt Core: don't think... but i'm the child here it seems, 38
    Zon Quar: so whe we r young
    Zon Quar: we r emotonal
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too Qt
    Bertram Jacobus: not "only" i guess, but if so, it may be something well known, like home ...
    Zon Quar: and teh music clings to us
    Fael Illyar: hmmhmm... I don't think I can participate in this topi much :)
    Bertram Jacobus: why not fael ?
    Qt Core: i just discovered a new group some month ago and i'm going to my first concert in a weeks
    Fael Illyar: 28
    Archmage Atlantis: After all, in our time, are Bach and Beethoven preformed by my contemportemporaries
    Zen Arado: I sem to even remember the words to 60's and 70's stuff :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes i forgot already again lol (sic!) fael ... ty :o)
    Wol Euler: the funny thing is, I'm listening to stuff that was *around* during my childhood but which I disliked then.
    Zen Arado: yes that happens to me
    Zen Arado: hated David Bowie but now I like him
    Bertram Jacobus: as i wrote before wol : now it may bring a feeling like "home" ... well known ...
    Wol Euler: perhaps, yes.
    Wol Euler: but someone else#s home :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Bertram Jacobus: okay ;-)
    Zon Quar: music brigs memories
    Bertram Jacobus: but on the other hand not wol ...
    Zen Arado: we are talking pop music though
    Zen Arado: classical is eternal
    Zon Quar: uncoscious links to past
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Flora
    Bolonath Crystal: i don't need any concerts. if i wanna listen to good music, i go to the supermarket
    Wol Euler: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: In 300 yearss, Led Zepplin might be considered classical
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello aubergine
    Zon Quar: isnt it already ?
    Bertram Jacobus: hey aubergine :-)
    Wol Euler: there's a thought.
    Zen Arado: doubt it though :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Aubergine Mint: hi, can i join you?
    Zen Arado: Hi Aubergine
    Fael Illyar: Hello Aubergine :) Sure, it'san open meeting
    Zon Quar: yes behind me is a free place
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Yes, Aubergine
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sure take a pillow/seat
    Archmage Atlantis: Fael, love, what is classical music to you?
    Wol Euler: hello aubergine
    Aubergine Mint: hi
    Wol Euler: oh, one day old! welcome to second life.
    Zen Arado: I wa two on Wednesday
    Aubergine Mint: thanks Yakuzza
    Zen Arado: a terrible two
    Fael Illyar: Classical music? ... umm ... ... music :)
    Bertram Jacobus: is this your first sl avatar aubergine ? :-)
    Wol Euler laughs
    Wol Euler: I was IMing hte same question.
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe :-)
    Aubergine Mint: yes
    Wol Euler: wow, you have a very good eye then.
    Aubergine Mint: hard to keep up with all this
    Bertram Jacobus: okay ... and may a i ask another question aubergine ? how you found this place ? :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. sometimes it´s a bit overwhelming i find too ...
    Bertram Jacobus: "a bit" ... ;o)
    Aubergine Mint: found Kira and looked at the website
    Bertram Jacobus: interesting ... i never was at kira myself yet (!) ... :-)
    Wol Euler: I'll give you an introduction in IM, so the group can carry on
    Aubergine Mint: so what are you all talking about?
    Aubergine Mint: thanks Wol
    Fael Illyar: yes, I agree. Very well done avatar for a first day :)
    Bertram Jacobus: the idea is to talk about a 9 second meditation practise if i don´t fail aubergine. and all other topics, too
    Fael Illyar: or ... well, it would be excellent for someone who's been here for a year.
    Bertram Jacobus: i would say, spiritual topics often. is that right expressed and seen ?
    Fael Illyar: the topic often is about people's personal experiences.
    Fael Illyar: with a spiritual viewpoint
    Fael Illyar: but only when someone does bring their experiences here and shares them :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and sometimes quietness ...
    Zon Quar: and sometimes celebrating..
    Fael Illyar: 4 meetings a day, every day of the week... yes, we have some silent meetings too :)
    Bolonath Crystal: often i have difficulties to express spiritual experiences in words
    Bertram Jacobus: why is that bolo ? ;-)
    Zen Arado: everyone does :)
    Bolonath Crystal: don't know. i use to miss the core
    Bertram Jacobus: really ? not me :o)
    Zen Arado: they don't fit into words IMO
    Fael Illyar: the experiences need not be of the category that's generally described as spiritual.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: trying seems like explaining sideways
    Fael Illyar: Everything is that. Even when you just simply make some bread
    Zen Arado: you have to try though
    Zon Quar: too big for words...we just have to try sideways
    Bertram Jacobus: i disagree - like the sentence "the finger which points to the moon is not the moon" and put aside : "but it is a finger which points to the moon" (!) ... ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: pointing then, is no problem Bert?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like trying to explain a taste to someone who never ate it
    Zen Arado: yes:
    Zon Quar: or light to a blind
    Bolonath Crystal nods
    Bertram Jacobus: for some it is for some not i guess. and also the time plays a role : some days are better, some not so easy ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Zon Quar: can u understand someting u havent urself expereinced ? even if someone trues to explain it
    Bertram Jacobus: and when people are interested and one speaks together, also a feeling can be common i feel ...
    Bertram Jacobus: so yes, partly.
    Calvino Rabeni: Communication relies on the shared experience. Words cannot cause it
    Bertram Jacobus: but for sure, experience is special
    Bertram Jacobus: but one can help to gain it it´s my conviction
    Geoff Baily: I find it very difficult to put feelings into words. often by the time i have found the words it is too late
    Bolonath Crystal: well, i can easily talk about a spiritual practice, e.g. meditation methods. but describing my own experiences during meditation is very hard for me
    Bolonath Crystal: especially in a virtual environment
    Bolonath Crystal: maybe because most of the nonverbal communication is missing here
    Bertram Jacobus: i think, it´s not always helpful to share such experiences. i mean to talk about them. but ... in more seldom situations it helps i consider ...
    Bertram Jacobus: for me the net meetings have special aspects which show me the words owners : which words they use and most important : how they react (!) so i fee a lot quite fast ...
    Geoff Baily: My anxiety makes me want to take control to remain safe. Difficult to let go and go with the flow of feelings
    Bertram Jacobus: feel*
    Bertram Jacobus: and how they act, for sure, too ... ;-)
    Wol Euler: this might be a safe place to practice, Geoff :)
    Archmage Atlantis: There are word that attempt to describe nn-verbal communication
    Bertram Jacobus: if we act at all ... ;-)
    Zon Quar: well i think u described ur feelings quite well Geoff
    Bolonath Crystal: that's right, arch, but they are a rather poor substitute
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
    Bolonath Crystal: well, an onigokko may say more than 1000 words *g*
    Bolonath Crystal: nite yak
    Archmage Atlantis: agree
    Zen Arado: I live too much in concepts in my head and speech is concepts too?
    Bertram Jacobus: good nite yaku
    Wol Euler: goodngiht yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: leaves quietly... bye for now all :)
    Zen Arado: bye Yaku
    Wol Euler: bye ss, take care
    Zon Quar: nite yaku
    Qt Core: bye sophia, yak
    Bertram Jacobus: bye ssl :-)
    Zon Quar: muisc is not concept
    Zon Quar: music
    Calvino Rabeni: Art of communication. Art is not a message
    Zen Arado: I'm trying to develop 'bpdy knowledge'
    Bertram Jacobus: and i don´t think, that language, words must be such concepts ...
    Geoff Baily: Yes its good here
    Calvino Rabeni: body knowledge
    Zen Arado: verbalised concepts
    Fael Illyar: Calvino, art is not message.... now you have me curious what you mean with message and art :)
    Bertram Jacobus: okay. can be zen
    Bertram Jacobus: but can be expression of flow, too
    Zen Arado: I trhink art is communication
    Zon Quar: art is....more
    Fael Illyar: message is communication, no?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes but communication is not message
    Bertram Jacobus: nice nite qt
    Zon Quar: expression
    Qt Core: bye all, have fun
    Wol Euler: buona sera, qt
    Aubergine Mint: bye everyone, thanks for making me feel welcome
    Bolonath Crystal: bye qt
    Zen Arado: bye QT
    Bolonath Crystal: bye aubergine
    Wol Euler: bye aubergine, take care.
    Zen Arado: bye Aubergine
    Fael Illyar: bye Aubergine :)
    Zon Quar: bye A
    Geoff Baily: bye
    Bertram Jacobus: thak you for havong joined us aubergine !
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrorw
    Bertram Jacobus: communication no message ? why calvino please ? :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: eyebrow ?
    Calvino Rabeni: the finger and the moon. Art is like an invitation to sit in the moonlight with someone.
    Bertram Jacobus: why ? :-)
    Wol Euler: with extra "r"
    Calvino Rabeni: The concept of communication may mean a lot, but message degrades it to a machine metaphor
    Zon Quar: creative act is expression of ur inner energies,i think communication is a bit too narrow
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes very narrow I agree
    Bertram Jacobus: but there are also ways of viewing this topic, which say, you can express everything by words, too ...
    Zen Arado: but you still want to express something TO people
    Zon Quar: hm
    Wol Euler: mmmmmmmmmaybe.
    Calvino Rabeni: well, you invoke imagination in your companions - it isn't so much in the words
    Zon Quar: the universe manifests itself like an artwork
    Zen Arado: very few would create just for themselves in isolation ?
    Wol Euler: actually, I think that many do :)
    Bolonath Crystal: yes
    Zen Arado: the viewer also creates the art
    Wol Euler: they create for the joy of creation, not thinking about ohther people at all
    Fael Illyar: perhaps... Art is what is between the concrete parts that make up the art.
    Calvino Rabeni: perhaps if they do, it is because they are multiple
    Fael Illyar: or behind
    Bertram Jacobus: nap attack here. so i leave. ty for the talk ! may all beings be happy please ! ...
    Calvino Rabeni: nice idea fael
    Zon Quar: real artist does not make his work to others but to express his own way..like van gogh
    Bolonath Crystal: bye bert
    Wol Euler: hehehehhe, bye bert, sleep well
    Calvino Rabeni: BYe bet
    Zen Arado: bye Bert
    Archmage Atlantis: Multiple, yes I have known those who are multiple
    Bertram Jacobus: ty all again ! :-)) and have a good time ! ... :-)
    Fael Illyar: Bye Bert :) Sleep well!
    Zen Arado: but he learned from others and inspired others
    Calvino Rabeni: it's not unreasonable to assume all people are multiple
    Zen Arado: though art for arts sake is a good ideal I think
    Zon Quar: yes..but his relation to his art was more than communicating with other pll i think
    Fael Illyar: Art is communication with oneself.
    Calvino Rabeni: Between multiples within oneself
    Zen Arado: maybe you are right
    Zon Quar: or with the whole
    Zen Arado: so long as you don't have to do it fro a living
    Zon Quar: lol
    Bolonath Crystal: when i make music i do that preferably on my own. if i let someone listen, this is usually an act of great intimacy. so 'communication with oneself' fits very well, i think
    Zen Arado: I apint to please myself mostly
    Zen Arado: paint
    Archmage Atlantis: "do it for a living" often means compromise toward a goal
    Zen Arado: but I'm pleased if someone buys paintings
    Calvino Rabeni: "art for art's sake" is to not compromise like that
    Fael Illyar: Yes... other people can see the communication that is expressed in art.
    Calvino Rabeni: "art for art's sake" was a slogan of rebellion against social control.
    Zen Arado: artists don't rebel against societies so much now I think
    Calvino Rabeni: but individualism may not need the extra help any more. (?)
    Calvino Rabeni: The pendulum swings the other way
    Zen Arado: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: that pendulum has swung throughout history, one way and the other
    Calvino Rabeni: it is a rhythm of civilization
    Calvino Rabeni: and maybe within the life of an individual human
    Zen Arado: conceptual modern art can be very materialistic I think
    Zen Arado: ppl buy it for investment
    Zen Arado: Saatchi
    Calvino Rabeni: middle-aged people don't have the work of differentiating themselves as much as younger
    Calvino Rabeni: if they did their job when young
    Archmage Atlantis: We need to thred lightly, either path has dangers, there can be a middle way
    Calvino Rabeni: always, A A
    Zen Arado: some modern art is rubbish I think
    Wol Euler: :=)
    Wol Euler: yes of course :)
    Wol Euler: some of everything is rubbish :)
    Zen Arado: saw TV program where a guy copied out 'War and Peace@ by hand
    Calvino Rabeni: Trash can be fascinating
    Zen Arado: how is thaT ART?
    Zon Quar: how do u like a definition like art=creativity=communicating with ones trueself/the whole/tao and expressing it
    Zen Arado: yes good Zon
    Calvino Rabeni: I like it
    Wol Euler nods
    Zen Arado: I am trying to be more intuitive in my painting
    Calvino Rabeni: art speaks to the issues of the time
    Zen Arado: abstract painting requires that
    Calvino Rabeni: even when it provikes, it may be a turning to the middle path
    Calvino Rabeni: *provokes
    Fael Illyar: my latest "doodle" :)
    Zen Arado: not so sure much of it does Calvino
    Wol Euler smiles
    Zon Quar: some "art" can be just expressiong of teh chotic mentality of the person
    Calvino Rabeni: imppressive, fael
    Fael Illyar smiles 'Thank you.'
    Zon Quar: didnt mean faell. lol
    Fael Illyar: Don't worry, I didn't think you did :)
    Geoff Baily: Why is it that often it takes a generation or two to recognize a great work of art?
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to leave. good bye and 'om shanti'
    Zon Quar: didnt see tha..that is Art :)
    Wol Euler: bye bolo, take care
    Zen Arado: bye Bolo
    Calvino Rabeni: I like Geoff's question
    Fael Illyar: see you later Bolo :)
    Calvino Rabeni: unfortunatly I must go AFK. Plz don't mind the zombie avater :)
    Geoff Baily: bye thanks
    Zen Arado: artists are ahead of their time
    Zon Quar: becasue true artist sees more than his normal fellows
    Wol Euler: be geoff, take care.
    Fael Illyar: perhaps the ideas in the art need to spread before people can recognize their significance.
    Zen Arado: experimenting with new forms
    Zen Arado: bye Geoff
    Fael Illyar: bye Geoff :)
    Zon Quar: nye G
    Geoff Baily: Where did Mozart's music come from?
    Fael Illyar: ah, Geoff wasn't leaving :)
    Geoff Baily: bye
    Zon Quar: from heaven
    Zen Arado: sory Geoff
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Geoff Baily: connection with the infinite?
    Archmage Atlantis: Mozart's music came from his pain, which heavon gave hime
    Zon Quar: must go to bed to dream artistic dreams, nite all
    Zen Arado: bye Zon
    Fael Illyar: Good night zon :)
    Zen Arado: I better go too
    Zen Arado: bye
    Fael Illyar: Good night Zen
    Wol Euler: bye zen, zon
    Fael Illyar: Actually, I'd best head to bed too :)
    Geoff Baily: bye Zen
    Wol Euler: bye fael, sleep well
    Fael Illyar: Good night Everyone :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Night al
    Wol Euler: well, that was quite an interesting session.
    Geoff Baily: yes, Imust go now night night
    Wol Euler: goodnight agin, geoff :)
    Wol Euler: I should go too, it's been a long day.
    Wol Euler: take care, calvino, see you tomorow :)
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