2010.02.28 07:00 - Non-Verbal Communication

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar. The comments are by Fael Illyar.

    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Fael :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey both of oyu
    Fael Illyar: Hi Yaku, Agatha :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, hello Yaku, couldn't see you
    Agatha Macbeth: Plenty of wings on today then?
    Fael Illyar: wings?
    Fael Illyar: ah, yes :)
    Fael Illyar: although the smaller ones are purel decorative :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Those things on your back ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Makes for a nice effect
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Fael Illyar: so, what's up today?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not a lot, so far
    Fael Illyar: I just returned from shop a while ago.
    Fael Illyar: eating a package of microwave chop suey.
    Agatha Macbeth: Your shop?
    Fael Illyar: no RL shop
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Fael Illyar: buying foodstuff
    Agatha Macbeth: What's the weather like there?
    Fael Illyar: was windy, wet, snowy when I left
    Fael Illyar: but now it's only windy and wet
    Agatha Macbeth: Quite nice here at the moment
    Agatha Macbeth: I saw my first crocus this week :)
    Fael Illyar: oh, crocus?
    Fael Illyar googles.
    Agatha Macbeth: The flower
    Agatha Macbeth: It means spring is coming :)
    Fael Illyar: ah, nice looking flower :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, they're lovely
    Agatha Macbeth: I like the orange ones best
    --BELL--
    Fael Illyar: no pictures of orange ones on wikipedia...
    Agatha Macbeth: Mwah! No fair
    Fael Illyar: mayhaps this one? http://www.crocusbank.org/Crocus%20%...Bowles%27,.jpg
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, that's more like it :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Beautiful
    Fael Illyar: meep! :)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you have a road runner avatar ?
    Fael Illyar: nope :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Agatha Macbeth: I forgot you can do it via the KB
    Fael Illyar: I don't use the gesture much though... I usually don't mean it to sound quite like that :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought that was how it's supposed to sound?
    Fael Illyar: I didn't start meeping because of road runner :P
    Fael Illyar: I only realized it's road runner's sound when Moon made that gesture.
    Fael Illyar: well, the written form anyway
    Agatha Macbeth: Why did you do it then?
    Agatha Macbeth: At first
    Fael Illyar: I tend to use non-verbal, although, oral communication some in RL :)
    Fael Illyar: so, it's one form of that.
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds but not words?
    Fael Illyar: yes
    Fael Illyar: impossible to convey with letters the exact sounds, really :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Fael Illyar: I'm kind of surprised people are able to read me pretty well with meep though :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Onomatopea?
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that how it's spelt?......
    Fael Illyar: Onomatopoeia
    Fael Illyar: Greek word apparently :)
    Agatha Macbeth: onomatopoeia
    Agatha Macbeth: Should be
    Fael Illyar: oink oink :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep :)
    Fael Illyar: color matches anyway :)
    Agatha Macbeth: It's often difficult to approximate sounds with letters :(
    Fael Illyar: yep :)
    Fael Illyar: letters are quite limited in that
    Fael Illyar: best would be if you learned to "hear" through seeing a printed waveform :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes. It makes printed communication somewhat limited in that respect
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so we should all learn the ipa alphabet ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Fael Illyar: ipa?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: international phonetic alphabet
    Fael Illyar: no should but maybe it would be interesting :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The same limitations would apply tho, Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sure but it describes sounds better then our common languages
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, I agree
    Agatha Macbeth: It gives you the idea of how the sound should be in a different language
    Fael Illyar: yep, better but still limited :)
    Agatha Macbeth: There is no real way to convey many sounds on the printed page, unfortunately
    Fael Illyar: sometimes people get fed up with me using non-verbal sounds and say something about it :)
    Fael Illyar: usually something like "you know words, use them"
    Agatha Macbeth: What sort of sounds do you use?
    Fael Illyar: I wonder how to describe it... I guess one of the most common could be approximated as mmm
    Fael Illyar: with different changes in tone and pitch depending on what I want to express
    Agatha Macbeth: When agreeing with someone?
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: Chinese dialects use tone a lot....
    Fael Illyar: Yes, agreeing and disagreeing are common ways to use that
    Agatha Macbeth: And as a question: mmm?
    Fael Illyar: yep
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't seem to be many people coming at this time just lately
    Agatha Macbeth: I guess it's a little early for most people in the States and Canada
    Fael Illyar: It used to be pretty popular time :)
    Fael Illyar: but seems the enthusiasm for waking up early for this meeting has faded
    Fael Illyar: later afternoon/early evening for me
    Agatha Macbeth: Me too
    Agatha Macbeth: Do they still have the Guardian meeting at 8.00 SLT?
    --BELL--
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: scusi yaku and hi all :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Berti :)
    Bertram Jacobus: oh :o)
    Fael Illyar: thank you :)
    Bertram Jacobus: all fine here ? :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well I'm alright :)
    Bertram Jacobus: wonderful ! :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure is
    Bertram Jacobus: like to mention it now and then ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Agatha Macbeth: Why not?
    Bertram Jacobus: even better may be (?) :o)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Bertram Jacobus: "to make the world a better place" ... :-D
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bert
    Bertram Jacobus: heyyak ! :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that a song?
    Bertram Jacobus: don´t know - google it now ... (i) :o)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm, i only know FA Hayek :)
    Bertram Jacobus: what is that yak ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Hayek was an economist
    Yakuzza Lethecus: austrian born
    Bertram Jacobus: and he said that ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hayek was so similar to heyyak :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, I found a book on Amazon'How to make the world a better place for gays and lesbians' :)
    Agatha Macbeth: No songs tho
    Bertram Jacobus: didn´t find much either
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah well
    Bertram Jacobus: but sounded in my imaginary ears like a quore ...
    Bertram Jacobus: quote*
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth: I was sure it was a lyric
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds familiar anyhow
    Bertram Jacobus: yess :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yesss?
    Bertram Jacobus: yess : sounds familiar
    Agatha Macbeth: (The snakes are here)
    Bertram Jacobus: oh. no.
    Agatha Macbeth: I like snakes
    Bertram Jacobus: mh
    Agatha Macbeth: Herpetology was one of my first fave subjects
    Bertram Jacobus: hm ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: And dinosaurs :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i like my little rabbit :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: A rabbit is not a reptile tho Bert ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: and here it is again ! :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: but i like it nevertheless - sry :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: Watership Down?
    Bertram Jacobus: nooo :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: I loved Bigwig :)
    Bertram Jacobus: don´t know it i fear
    Bertram Jacobus: sry again
    Agatha Macbeth: Book and film
    Bertram Jacobus: i know that they exist, yess :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: Art Garfunkel sang the theme for the film
    Agatha Macbeth: It was number 1 in the UK for a long time
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. a dark reminder in a very back region of my brain ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Aha!
    Bertram Jacobus: lol !
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: I have many of those '-)
    Bertram Jacobus: who doesn´t ?
    Agatha Macbeth: A nun?
    Bertram Jacobus: why ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well....
    Bertram Jacobus: (you are quick)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sometimes
    Bertram Jacobus: mostly
    --BELL--
    Agatha Macbeth: I try my best :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya at the meeting
    Bertram Jacobus: bye yaku. enjoy !
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Yaku
    Bertram Jacobus: bye agatha
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Yaku :)
    Bertram Jacobus: oops ?
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm still here ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: you only stood up agatha ?
    Fael Illyar: oh, right, guardian meeting
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, dunno why
    Bertram Jacobus: oh. guardian meeting ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh no, not a guardian meetuing....
    Agatha Macbeth: (horror)
    Fael Illyar: Would you like to join as observer, Agatha? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: What am I observing?
    Fael Illyar: oh well, nothing I guess :)
    Agatha Macbeth: At the moment the fountain....
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ...
    Fael Illyar: Well, I'm heading to the guardian meeting now :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Agatha :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll go to pandora again - scuci ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok, BFN
    Bertram Jacobus: scusi
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: bye fael ...
    Bertram Jacobus: bye agatha ! ... :-)
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