2010.04.03 07:00 - Chickens Life

The Guardian for this meeting was sophia Placebo. The comments are by sophia Placebo.

Riddle Sideways: good morning
sophia Placebo: morning riddle
sophia Placebo: morning yaku
SophiaSharon Larnia: good morning :)
sophia Placebo: how is life ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: morning everyone, great afternoon sophia
sophia Placebo: :) goodafternoon yaku
SophiaSharon Larnia: it's going Sophia, busyas usually ^.^
SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you?
sophia Placebo: hello sophia , sorry didnt spot you
SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
sophia Placebo: (haha lovly key)
SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
sophia Placebo: it should be kept busy to be life
sophia Placebo: thanks yaku
Riddle Sideways: thanks Yaku, that is my 3rd shirt
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
Yakuzza Lethecus: maybe sophia haven´t had one
Yakuzza Lethecus: her outfit would let me freeze
SophiaSharon Larnia: has several myself, for the same reason:)
Yakuzza Lethecus: only by watching her
Yakuzza Lethecus smiles at sophia
sophia Placebo: hello eliza
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Elza
Riddle Sideways: hi eliza
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza, the little bell
sophia Placebo: too summery fr your cimate yaku ?
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sophia, Sharon, Yakuzza, Riddle :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, definetly for our german weather :)
sophia Placebo: it just what we wear here now , it fits the weather
Eliza Madrigal: Sophia, nice to see you again
Yakuzza Lethecus: nods
sophia Placebo: nice to see you too eliza :) missed this place
Eliza Madrigal: This place missed you too!
sophia Placebo: wonders whats wrong to be a chickn , you eat produce food then you would be eaten , living a nice stress free ife in btween , isnt it wonderfull !
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: we´ll all going to be eaten some day
sophia Placebo: true
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bleu :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
Riddle Sideways wonders is chickn thinks life is not stressful
Bleu Oleander: hi everyone!
sophia Placebo: but chicken do it in more glamoures way , being served on silver plates and so on
sophia Placebo: hell bleu
SophiaSharon Larnia: I suspect it is Riddle
Yakuzza Lethecus: at least it´s good that the chicken doesn´t anticipate the reason of its existence
Yakuzza Lethecus: so in some way it´s good to be chicken :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: yes, it doesn't torture itself thinking if it layed enough eggs that day, probably
SophiaSharon Larnia: do you anticipate the reason for your existance?
Riddle Sideways: not sure of the chicken belief in the afterlife
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: fortunatly right now i think that human beings are reasons in itself and we don´t play a bigger role in the foodchain of worms
Yakuzza Lethecus: for farmer family´s in the past they might just have been the retirement policy
Yakuzza Lethecus: and good loyal wokers
sophia Placebo: so how would you value your life i mean as human ?
SophiaSharon Larnia: in regards to the rest of the animal kingdom?
sophia Placebo: so far i've seen the chickens life wonderfull from human point of view
SophiaSharon Larnia: i think with intelligence comes responsibilty
SophiaSharon Larnia: or awareness
Eliza Madrigal: nods
sophia Placebo: yes sophia , in regards to earth in general and to human too since humans inclued in earth
SophiaSharon Larnia: not responsible to shape in any way, but let it be
sophia Placebo: chickens do -let it be - no ?
SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
sophia Placebo: oh well , lucky chickens
Eliza Madrigal: groovy chickens
sophia Placebo: i wonders what we suppose to do with this intelligence sophia
SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont know either ^.^
Riddle Sideways: is it all about using oru inteligence to juxipose into a chickens mind?
Yakuzza Lethecus: its better to be a human beng dssatsfed then a pg satsfed
Yakuzza Lethecus: ah my i
sophia Placebo: why it is better yaku ?
SophiaSharon Larnia: I have problems juxiposing in my own mind :) but I see interesting ideas about that Riddle
Eliza Madrigal: hhehehe
Riddle Sideways: so we (humankind) figured out how not to be a link in the food chain
Riddle Sideways: to be at the top
Riddle Sideways: and how to spoil our environment
sophia Placebo: we get eaten by worms
Riddle Sideways: what should we do next
Yakuzza Lethecus: i thnk humans can also decide to be happy
sophia Placebo: lets go and dance
Riddle Sideways: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: チョコレイト・ディスコ ♪
Yakuzza Lethecus: Chokoreito Disco ♪
sophia Placebo: lol
Eliza Madrigal: giggles @ Ya
Bleu Oleander: ha!
SophiaSharon Larnia: lolol
Riddle Sideways: hehehe
Eliza Madrigal: And you figured out your shirt! :)
Bleu Oleander: cracks me up!!
SophiaSharon Larnia: I love the shirt bleu! well done
Bleu Oleander: thanks SS
Bleu Oleander: fun to see everyone wearing it!
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: actually, for me appreciate the presence of appearances as presentation of being is for me a a reminder that we should enjoy life no matter what
Eliza Madrigal: Indeed, Ya....
Eliza Madrigal: everything we have to work with
sophia Placebo: even if you are a pig
Yakuzza Lethecus: but just saying such a phrase is obviously not enough
Yakuzza Lethecus: we are all pigs
Bleu Oleander: pigs in cute t-shirts
Yakuzza Lethecus: we are all grasping for something and give higher meaning to things we decide by ourselves
Eliza Madrigal: do pigs appreciate?
Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm at least from what i heard pigs are more intelligent then dogs
Bleu Oleander: yes, i've heard that too
Bleu Oleander: actually we're finding out that many animals are more intelligent than we realize
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Riddle Sideways: my cat thinks that carrots are smarter then dogs
SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Yakuzza Lethecus: doncat´s just have a big ego :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: nah i think they just like theyre space
Eliza Madrigal: yes.... they are unapologetic for being who they are perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: or how they are, rather....
SophiaSharon Larnia: but that would be humanizing an alien mind, maybe
Eliza Madrigal: yes, its intrinsic unapologetic-ness... hehe
Bleu Oleander: what it's like to be a bat
sophia Placebo: (sorry for un rezzing pant all , was ok in my screen ) ^^
SophiaSharon Larnia: no worries it happens
Eliza Madrigal: Yup, certainly does... has happened to me.
Riddle Sideways: a bat is a little harder to grasp the seeing with radar idea
SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh yea
sophia Placebo: chickens dont have to worry about their ava not rezzing pants
Eliza Madrigal: :)
sophia Placebo: hello Qt
SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt
Bleu Oleander: hi Qt
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt
Riddle Sideways: hi QT
Qt Core: hi all
Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
Yakuzza Lethecus: do humans need to ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: on phil island there are who´s naked all the time :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, thats saying something about appearance :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: sure it´s about provocating
Riddle Sideways: have spent time watching chickens in the wild (and cages) and they seem to worry about what the others think
Yakuzza Lethecus: at least i guess so
Riddle Sideways: about them
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, why not
Eliza Madrigal:they are quite nice....
Eliza Madrigal: came to the wok workshop last week....
Eliza Madrigal: my first suspicion was they are a  45 year old man
SophiaSharon Larnia: oohh
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
sophia Placebo: lol
Bleu Oleander: It's interesting how quickly you forget that there are naked av
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i could even imagine that :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: i haven´t figured out anything about them so far
Yakuzza Lethecus: but they are a  very active on PI
Eliza Madrigal: Its a statement certainly, and well... SL is good for that perhaps... interesting to see who is phazed by what?
SophiaSharon Larnia: and why
Eliza Madrigal: nods
Bleu Oleander: yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: nice :)
Bleu Oleander: for me, it was interesting for a few minutes, but faded .... obviously if rl would have kept interest longer perhaps?
SophiaSharon Larnia: to me it wouldnt matter if they were a 45 yr old man, its the point
sophia Placebo: Qt we hm me was wondering how brilliant it is to be a chicken , eat and f** , be eaten at the end , a whole productive life , dont you think ?
Riddle Sideways: there was a great allen funt movie years ago, "What do you say to a naked lady"
--BELL--
Qt Core: interesting animal choice, i wpuld think about lambs in these days
Riddle Sideways: that explored the subject
Bleu Oleander: Marina Abromovic's show at MOMA in NYC addresses some of these issues
SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks :)
sophia Placebo: well yes lambs have a daily picnic too
Eliza Madrigal: Yes maybe, Bleu. And yes also, Sharon... either way. :)) I keep meaning to do something daring in SL but just don't get around to it....
Eliza Madrigal: (re 45 yo man or not) hehe
Bleu Oleander: Perfomance art can illuminate these ideas quite well
Bleu Oleander: http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/965
Bleu Oleander: sorry .... Marina Abramović .... spelling correction
Bleu Oleander: like what Eliza?
Riddle Sideways: is SL and PaB performance art?
Eliza Madrigal: hah, who knows. I just see that it is interesting in that way, for stretching out of one's comfort zone...
Eliza Madrigal: and for me, even in the way I dress, aside from animals and fairies... close to RL me :)
Bleu Oleander: I went to an sl show by Eva and Franco
SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm i try not to have it be so, butin the sense that I watch life
Bleu Oleander: enacting some of Marina's rl performances
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, interesting
Bleu Oleander: pretty interesting
Bleu Oleander: nakedness in sl vs nakedness in rl
Bleu Oleander: evokes some of the same feelings
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i could say something funny about that, but maybe better i dont
Riddle Sideways: usually colder in rl
sophia Placebo: * i asked if the names of avas we spoe about are ok to be kept in chat log**
Bleu Oleander: ha!
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no she didn't... so maybe just _____  name Sophia?
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for thinking of that
Bleu Oleander: I have a question re: chat logs
Yakuzza Lethecus: are we allowed to talk about anything ?
Bleu Oleander: if someone doesn't want their name in the log do we eliminate the whole conversation?
Yakuzza Lethecus: who asked tomas nagel if we are allowed to ask : what it´s like to be a bat ?
Eliza Madrigal: No Bleu... just the name
Bleu Oleander: I had someone ask that his comments be eliminated also
sophia Placebo: it was kinda personal comments , at least thats how we would classify it here , dont know about your norms
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well if they request...
Eliza Madrigal: Generally, if anyone requests, guardians too
Bleu Oleander: how much editing should we be doing?
SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe just a short comment on the gist, so theres some kind of flow
Yakuzza Lethecus: i´ve never been asked to do so
Eliza Madrigal: I don't do very much... and often make a note when I do so
Eliza Madrigal: but when asked I remove whatever has been asked to be removed
sophia Placebo: ok
Bleu Oleander: might be something to review at a guardian mtg?
Eliza Madrigal: Sure, good to go over those kinds of questions!
Yakuzza Lethecus remembers asking eliza private stuff and she ,,dropt" a few sentences :)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, exactly Ya... and made a note in the log :)
Eliza Madrigal: talking off the pages :)
sophia Placebo: i better be off to see sunset , see you all around
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Sophia :)
Bleu Oleander: bye sophis
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sophia, NIce to see you again... glad you have laptop fixed :)
Bleu Oleander: sophia
Riddle Sideways: yes, have had ppl im'ing personal stuff and forget which box typing into and been public
Qt Core: bye sophia, have a nice... sunset :-)
sophia Placebo: naah , new one
Riddle Sideways: bye sophia
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, congrats!
Eliza Madrigal: Riddle, so easy to do
sophia Placebo: the old one still in comma waiting for the transplant
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
sophia Placebo: ty
sophia Placebo: bye
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
Eliza Madrigal: I think its important to know we can ask to remove things... that keeps conversation open generally....
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Riddle Sideways: I have also been asked to correct their spelling
Yakuzza Lethecus: but the logging might stop prevent us from just letting go
SophiaSharon Larnia: (does that anyway sometimes *blushes*)
Yakuzza Lethecus: we always have in mind that it´s logged
Eliza Madrigal: i may want to share with others a difficult time of life but maybe not expose others to whom the situation relates, etc.
Eliza Madrigal: I sometimes change spellings but not always
Bleu Oleander: yes, that's why in rl we never record our salons
Qt Core: i often forgot that and remember it only after the end of the session when offline...
SophiaSharon Larnia is thinking we were talking about this before the five bells opened :))
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, really Bleu? I didn't know that
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, true Sharon
Qt Core: and then think: nice, now all the world will know how much silly i am
Eliza Madrigal: (makes note to stop writing 'ah' before everything)
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: but the issue with the five bells is still that a group just doesn´t meet there unintentionally
Bleu Oleander: yes, freer conversation if not recorded (in rl salons)
Bleu Oleander: ah
Yakuzza Lethecus: i go to the roadside philosophers
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye for now
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Yakuzza :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Yaku
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: I think there is a balance... that the continuity and cohesiveness of the group is helped by logs especially
Qt Core: bye yaku, have fun
Bleu Oleander: it's a diff question
Bleu Oleander: some pros and cons
Riddle Sideways: I must go too, thank you all
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Riddle :)
Bleu Oleander: bye Riddle
Qt Core: bye
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, don't we all look cute :)
Bleu Oleander: pretty cute
SophiaSharon Larnia giggles
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if I'll understand the chicken conversation when I read it back....
Eliza Madrigal: logs are good for that too :)
Bleu Oleander: yes
SophiaSharon Larnia: reminds me i saw a bunch of pose balls for group pictures ( not the sexy kind)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh! Neat idea
Eliza Madrigal: I'd love to do a group PaB picture
Bleu Oleander: yes .... pose fair is on now
Eliza Madrigal: pose fair?
SophiaSharon Larnia wonders if she should run away now ^.^
Eliza Madrigal: wow, so much I don't know
Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Sharon
Bleu Oleander: new poses out from all designers
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods nods
Bleu Oleander: pretty cool
Eliza Madrigal: I should read my SL email perhaps
Eliza Madrigal: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: tyring to organize a picture day?? oh.. my....god...
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahah
Eliza Madrigal: spoken like a true organizer
Eliza Madrigal: :)
SophiaSharon Larnia runs
Bleu Oleander: (is that under my new role?)
Eliza Madrigal: daunting idea, I agree
SophiaSharon Larnia: guffaws
Bleu Oleander: yikes
SophiaSharon Larnia: for reals
Eliza Madrigal: Hah... well if you'd like to take that on Bleu ;-D
Bleu Oleander: sure, i'm game
Eliza Madrigal: oh wow, fearless
SophiaSharon Larnia: photo shop!
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Bleu Oleander: gotta be easier than getting art from everyone haha
SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh sorries
Eliza Madrigal: heheh... well that has been awesome....
Bleu Oleander: no photoshop!!! too easy
Eliza Madrigal: Still going, Sharon :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: i havent been in sl
Eliza Madrigal: I know.... have missed you
SophiaSharon Larnia: ill work on it today!!
Bleu Oleander: actually, one of my next ideas was to do a photo shoot
SophiaSharon Larnia runs
Eliza Madrigal: How wonderful... love pictures
Bleu Oleander: portraits of PaB
Eliza Madrigal: :::grabs Sharon's sleeve::::
Bleu Oleander: I have a design in mind
SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Bleu?
Eliza Madrigal: my goodness... wheels always turning :)
Qt Core: all our pic under the title... "being wanted" ?
SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hahah
Bleu Oleander: thought I would let the art of being play out a little longer first
Bleu Oleander: ha! Qt
Eliza Madrigal: :) yes... nice idea
Eliza Madrigal: How great.. am going to enjoy the ideas and energy of the next phases of things...
Bleu Oleander: lots in my mind!
SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Bleu Oleander: tempted to throw them all out, but think it's better to space out a bit
Eliza Madrigal: Its a thrill to see the time away from logs bubbling so...
Bleu Oleander: I get very excited over these kinds of things ....
Eliza Madrigal: Very glad, Bleu!
Bleu Oleander: TH is glad that I have another outlet!! hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahha
Eliza Madrigal: So are we :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry havent been here, will try to summon some energy
Bleu Oleander: creativity run amok
Eliza Madrigal: We spark each other...
Qt Core: i think i'm missing something but i fear asking about it...
Bleu Oleander: yes deff Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: brb, one sec
Eliza Madrigal: Okay, back....
Eliza Madrigal: Tomorrow we'll talk about the changing of the guards in the wg, qt.... that some members are stepping out and others stepping in for certain roles
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: and defining some of the roles which have been good ideas, but dormant
Qt Core: ok, we'll see if i could be awoke after Easter lunch ;-)
SophiaSharon Larnia: haha yes Qt!!
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes will be full and happy I suppose
Bleu Oleander: I need to go ... c u all later :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now Bleu :) Thanks
SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm thinking I may miss it tomorrow too, because of the holiday I'll be out of my house
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bleu
Eliza Madrigal: Ah...
Qt Core: bye bleu
Bleu Oleander: bye all
Eliza Madrigal: Well, another reason logs are helpful
Eliza Madrigal: Pema will be travelling, so not there
SophiaSharon Larnia: I'll try, but I know I will miss the 1 pm session for sure
SophiaSharon Larnia: theme session i beleive
Eliza Madrigal: ah, the TSK session...
Eliza Madrigal: (oops, wrote ah)
SophiaSharon Larnia: will be sitting down at dinner at that time
Eliza Madrigal: Nice though, to have a dinner to attend :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
Qt Core: especially if you don't have to cook it ;-)
Eliza Madrigal: I might not make the session either, depending on my grandfather and thought of taking the kids to the beach
SophiaSharon Larnia: well, I'm bring a few things :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: yay!
SophiaSharon Larnia: go to the beach
Eliza Madrigal: I used to make 'jesus rolls' every year...
Eliza Madrigal: crescent rolls with marshmallows in them...
SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
Eliza Madrigal: when you cook them, the marshmallow disappears
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: they call it an 'empty tomb' roll...
SophiaSharon Larnia: i must go now too, hopefully see you later today :)
SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Qt and Eliza :
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, not sure about today yet either. Hope so :))
Eliza Madrigal: Bye guys
Qt Core: probably, bye SS
Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you qt... talk soon
Qt Core: bye