2010.04.03 07:00 - Chickens Life

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    The Guardian for this meeting was sophia Placebo. The comments are by sophia Placebo.

    Riddle Sideways: good morning
    sophia Placebo: morning riddle
    sophia Placebo: morning yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good morning :)
    sophia Placebo: how is life ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: morning everyone, great afternoon sophia
    sophia Placebo: :) goodafternoon yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it's going Sophia, busyas usually ^.^
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how are you?
    sophia Placebo: hello sophia , sorry didnt spot you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    sophia Placebo: (haha lovly key)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    sophia Placebo: it should be kept busy to be life
    sophia Placebo: thanks yaku
    Riddle Sideways: thanks Yaku, that is my 3rd shirt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: maybe sophia haven´t had one
    Yakuzza Lethecus: her outfit would let me freeze
    SophiaSharon Larnia: has several myself, for the same reason:)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: only by watching her
    Yakuzza Lethecus smiles at sophia
    sophia Placebo: hello eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Elza
    Riddle Sideways: hi eliza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey eliza, the little bell
    sophia Placebo: too summery fr your cimate yaku ?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sophia, Sharon, Yakuzza, Riddle :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, definetly for our german weather :)
    sophia Placebo: it just what we wear here now , it fits the weather
    Eliza Madrigal: Sophia, nice to see you again
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nods
    sophia Placebo: nice to see you too eliza :) missed this place
    Eliza Madrigal: This place missed you too!
    sophia Placebo: wonders whats wrong to be a chickn , you eat produce food then you would be eaten , living a nice stress free ife in btween , isnt it wonderfull !
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we´ll all going to be eaten some day
    sophia Placebo: true
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi bleu :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu :)
    Riddle Sideways wonders is chickn thinks life is not stressful
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone!
    sophia Placebo: but chicken do it in more glamoures way , being served on silver plates and so on
    sophia Placebo: hell bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I suspect it is Riddle
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least it´s good that the chicken doesn´t anticipate the reason of its existence
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so in some way it´s good to be chicken :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, it doesn't torture itself thinking if it layed enough eggs that day, probably
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you anticipate the reason for your existance?
    Riddle Sideways: not sure of the chicken belief in the afterlife
    --BELL--
    Yakuzza Lethecus: fortunatly right now i think that human beings are reasons in itself and we don´t play a bigger role in the foodchain of worms
    Yakuzza Lethecus: for farmer family´s in the past they might just have been the retirement policy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and good loyal wokers
    sophia Placebo: so how would you value your life i mean as human ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in regards to the rest of the animal kingdom?
    sophia Placebo: so far i've seen the chickens life wonderfull from human point of view
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think with intelligence comes responsibilty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or awareness
    Eliza Madrigal: nods
    sophia Placebo: yes sophia , in regards to earth in general and to human too since humans inclued in earth
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not responsible to shape in any way, but let it be
    sophia Placebo: chickens do -let it be - no ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    sophia Placebo: oh well , lucky chickens
    Eliza Madrigal: groovy chickens
    sophia Placebo: i wonders what we suppose to do with this intelligence sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont know either ^.^
    Riddle Sideways: is it all about using oru inteligence to juxipose into a chickens mind?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: its better to be a human beng dssatsfed then a pg satsfed
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah my i
    sophia Placebo: why it is better yaku ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have problems juxiposing in my own mind :) but I see interesting ideas about that Riddle
    Eliza Madrigal: hhehehe
    Riddle Sideways: so we (humankind) figured out how not to be a link in the food chain
    Riddle Sideways: to be at the top
    Riddle Sideways: and how to spoil our environment
    sophia Placebo: we get eaten by worms
    Riddle Sideways: what should we do next
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i thnk humans can also decide to be happy
    sophia Placebo: lets go and dance
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: チョコレイト・ディスコ ♪
    Yakuzza Lethecus: Chokoreito Disco ♪
    sophia Placebo: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: giggles @ Ya
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lolol
    Riddle Sideways: hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: And you figured out your shirt! :)
    Bleu Oleander: cracks me up!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I love the shirt bleu! well done
    Bleu Oleander: thanks SS
    Bleu Oleander: fun to see everyone wearing it!
    --BELL--
    Yakuzza Lethecus: actually, for me appreciate the presence of appearances as presentation of being is for me a a reminder that we should enjoy life no matter what
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed, Ya....
    Eliza Madrigal: everything we have to work with
    sophia Placebo: even if you are a pig
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but just saying such a phrase is obviously not enough
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we are all pigs
    Bleu Oleander: pigs in cute t-shirts
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we are all grasping for something and give higher meaning to things we decide by ourselves
    Eliza Madrigal: do pigs appreciate?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hmm at least from what i heard pigs are more intelligent then dogs
    Bleu Oleander: yes, i've heard that too
    Bleu Oleander: actually we're finding out that many animals are more intelligent than we realize
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Riddle Sideways: my cat thinks that carrots are smarter then dogs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Yakuzza Lethecus: doncat´s just have a big ego :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nah i think they just like theyre space
    Eliza Madrigal: yes.... they are unapologetic for being who they are perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: or how they are, rather....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but that would be humanizing an alien mind, maybe
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, its intrinsic unapologetic-ness... hehe
    Bleu Oleander: what it's like to be a bat
    sophia Placebo: (sorry for un rezzing pant all , was ok in my screen ) ^^
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no worries it happens
    Eliza Madrigal: Yup, certainly does... has happened to me.
    Riddle Sideways: a bat is a little harder to grasp the seeing with radar idea
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh yea
    sophia Placebo: chickens dont have to worry about their ava not rezzing pants
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    sophia Placebo: hello Qt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt
    Bleu Oleander: hi Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt
    Riddle Sideways: hi QT
    Qt Core: hi all
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: do humans need to ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: on phil island there are who´s naked all the time :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, thats saying something about appearance :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sure it´s about provocating
    Riddle Sideways: have spent time watching chickens in the wild (and cages) and they seem to worry about what the others think
    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least i guess so
    Riddle Sideways: about them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, why not
    Eliza Madrigal:they are quite nice....
    Eliza Madrigal: came to the wok workshop last week....
    Eliza Madrigal: my first suspicion was they are a  45 year old man
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oohh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    sophia Placebo: lol
    Bleu Oleander: It's interesting how quickly you forget that there are naked av
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, i could even imagine that :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i haven´t figured out anything about them so far
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but they are a  very active on PI
    Eliza Madrigal: Its a statement certainly, and well... SL is good for that perhaps... interesting to see who is phazed by what?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and why
    Eliza Madrigal: nods
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice :)
    Bleu Oleander: for me, it was interesting for a few minutes, but faded .... obviously if rl would have kept interest longer perhaps?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to me it wouldnt matter if they were a 45 yr old man, its the point
    sophia Placebo: Qt we hm me was wondering how brilliant it is to be a chicken , eat and f** , be eaten at the end , a whole productive life , dont you think ?
    Riddle Sideways: there was a great allen funt movie years ago, "What do you say to a naked lady"
    --BELL--
    Qt Core: interesting animal choice, i wpuld think about lambs in these days
    Riddle Sideways: that explored the subject
    Bleu Oleander: Marina Abromovic's show at MOMA in NYC addresses some of these issues
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks :)
    sophia Placebo: well yes lambs have a daily picnic too
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes maybe, Bleu. And yes also, Sharon... either way. :)) I keep meaning to do something daring in SL but just don't get around to it....
    Eliza Madrigal: (re 45 yo man or not) hehe
    Bleu Oleander: Perfomance art can illuminate these ideas quite well
    Bleu Oleander: http://www.moma.org/visit/calendar/exhibitions/965
    Bleu Oleander: sorry .... Marina Abramović .... spelling correction
    Bleu Oleander: like what Eliza?
    Riddle Sideways: is SL and PaB performance art?
    Eliza Madrigal: hah, who knows. I just see that it is interesting in that way, for stretching out of one's comfort zone...
    Eliza Madrigal: and for me, even in the way I dress, aside from animals and fairies... close to RL me :)
    Bleu Oleander: I went to an sl show by Eva and Franco
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm i try not to have it be so, butin the sense that I watch life
    Bleu Oleander: enacting some of Marina's rl performances
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, interesting
    Bleu Oleander: pretty interesting
    Bleu Oleander: nakedness in sl vs nakedness in rl
    Bleu Oleander: evokes some of the same feelings
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i could say something funny about that, but maybe better i dont
    Riddle Sideways: usually colder in rl
    sophia Placebo: * i asked if the names of avas we spoe about are ok to be kept in chat log**
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, no she didn't... so maybe just _____  name Sophia?
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for thinking of that
    Bleu Oleander: I have a question re: chat logs
    Yakuzza Lethecus: are we allowed to talk about anything ?
    Bleu Oleander: if someone doesn't want their name in the log do we eliminate the whole conversation?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: who asked tomas nagel if we are allowed to ask : what it´s like to be a bat ?
    Eliza Madrigal: No Bleu... just the name
    Bleu Oleander: I had someone ask that his comments be eliminated also
    sophia Placebo: it was kinda personal comments , at least thats how we would classify it here , dont know about your norms
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, well if they request...
    Eliza Madrigal: Generally, if anyone requests, guardians too
    Bleu Oleander: how much editing should we be doing?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe just a short comment on the gist, so theres some kind of flow
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i´ve never been asked to do so
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't do very much... and often make a note when I do so
    Eliza Madrigal: but when asked I remove whatever has been asked to be removed
    sophia Placebo: ok
    Bleu Oleander: might be something to review at a guardian mtg?
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure, good to go over those kinds of questions!
    Yakuzza Lethecus remembers asking eliza private stuff and she ,,dropt" a few sentences :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, exactly Ya... and made a note in the log :)
    Eliza Madrigal: talking off the pages :)
    sophia Placebo: i better be off to see sunset , see you all around
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Sophia :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye sophis
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sophia, NIce to see you again... glad you have laptop fixed :)
    Bleu Oleander: sophia
    Riddle Sideways: yes, have had ppl im'ing personal stuff and forget which box typing into and been public
    Qt Core: bye sophia, have a nice... sunset :-)
    sophia Placebo: naah , new one
    Riddle Sideways: bye sophia
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, congrats!
    Eliza Madrigal: Riddle, so easy to do
    sophia Placebo: the old one still in comma waiting for the transplant
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    sophia Placebo: ty
    sophia Placebo: bye
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
    Eliza Madrigal: I think its important to know we can ask to remove things... that keeps conversation open generally....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Riddle Sideways: I have also been asked to correct their spelling
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the logging might stop prevent us from just letting go
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (does that anyway sometimes *blushes*)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we always have in mind that it´s logged
    Eliza Madrigal: i may want to share with others a difficult time of life but maybe not expose others to whom the situation relates, etc.
    Eliza Madrigal: I sometimes change spellings but not always
    Bleu Oleander: yes, that's why in rl we never record our salons
    Qt Core: i often forgot that and remember it only after the end of the session when offline...
    SophiaSharon Larnia is thinking we were talking about this before the five bells opened :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, really Bleu? I didn't know that
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, true Sharon
    Qt Core: and then think: nice, now all the world will know how much silly i am
    Eliza Madrigal: (makes note to stop writing 'ah' before everything)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the issue with the five bells is still that a group just doesn´t meet there unintentionally
    Bleu Oleander: yes, freer conversation if not recorded (in rl salons)
    Bleu Oleander: ah
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i go to the roadside philosophers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye for now
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Yakuzza :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Yaku
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: I think there is a balance... that the continuity and cohesiveness of the group is helped by logs especially
    Qt Core: bye yaku, have fun
    Bleu Oleander: it's a diff question
    Bleu Oleander: some pros and cons
    Riddle Sideways: I must go too, thank you all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Riddle :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Riddle
    Qt Core: bye
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, don't we all look cute :)
    Bleu Oleander: pretty cute
    SophiaSharon Larnia giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if I'll understand the chicken conversation when I read it back....
    Eliza Madrigal: logs are good for that too :)
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: reminds me i saw a bunch of pose balls for group pictures ( not the sexy kind)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh! Neat idea
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd love to do a group PaB picture
    Bleu Oleander: yes .... pose fair is on now
    Eliza Madrigal: pose fair?
    SophiaSharon Larnia wonders if she should run away now ^.^
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, so much I don't know
    Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Sharon
    Bleu Oleander: new poses out from all designers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods nods
    Bleu Oleander: pretty cool
    Eliza Madrigal: I should read my SL email perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: tyring to organize a picture day?? oh.. my....god...
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahahah
    Eliza Madrigal: spoken like a true organizer
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia runs
    Bleu Oleander: (is that under my new role?)
    Eliza Madrigal: daunting idea, I agree
    SophiaSharon Larnia: guffaws
    Bleu Oleander: yikes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for reals
    Eliza Madrigal: Hah... well if you'd like to take that on Bleu ;-D
    Bleu Oleander: sure, i'm game
    Eliza Madrigal: oh wow, fearless
    SophiaSharon Larnia: photo shop!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: gotta be easier than getting art from everyone haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oooh sorries
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh... well that has been awesome....
    Bleu Oleander: no photoshop!!! too easy
    Eliza Madrigal: Still going, Sharon :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i havent been in sl
    Eliza Madrigal: I know.... have missed you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ill work on it today!!
    Bleu Oleander: actually, one of my next ideas was to do a photo shoot
    SophiaSharon Larnia runs
    Eliza Madrigal: How wonderful... love pictures
    Bleu Oleander: portraits of PaB
    Eliza Madrigal: :::grabs Sharon's sleeve::::
    Bleu Oleander: I have a design in mind
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Bleu?
    Eliza Madrigal: my goodness... wheels always turning :)
    Qt Core: all our pic under the title... "being wanted" ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Bleu Oleander: thought I would let the art of being play out a little longer first
    Bleu Oleander: ha! Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes... nice idea
    Eliza Madrigal: How great.. am going to enjoy the ideas and energy of the next phases of things...
    Bleu Oleander: lots in my mind!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Bleu Oleander: tempted to throw them all out, but think it's better to space out a bit
    Eliza Madrigal: Its a thrill to see the time away from logs bubbling so...
    Bleu Oleander: I get very excited over these kinds of things ....
    Eliza Madrigal: Very glad, Bleu!
    Bleu Oleander: TH is glad that I have another outlet!! hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahahha
    Eliza Madrigal: So are we :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry havent been here, will try to summon some energy
    Bleu Oleander: creativity run amok
    Eliza Madrigal: We spark each other...
    Qt Core: i think i'm missing something but i fear asking about it...
    Bleu Oleander: yes deff Eliza!
    Eliza Madrigal: brb, one sec
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay, back....
    Eliza Madrigal: Tomorrow we'll talk about the changing of the guards in the wg, qt.... that some members are stepping out and others stepping in for certain roles
    --BELL--
    Eliza Madrigal: and defining some of the roles which have been good ideas, but dormant
    Qt Core: ok, we'll see if i could be awoke after Easter lunch ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha yes Qt!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes will be full and happy I suppose
    Bleu Oleander: I need to go ... c u all later :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now Bleu :) Thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm thinking I may miss it tomorrow too, because of the holiday I'll be out of my house
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah...
    Qt Core: bye bleu
    Bleu Oleander: bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, another reason logs are helpful
    Eliza Madrigal: Pema will be travelling, so not there
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'll try, but I know I will miss the 1 pm session for sure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: theme session i beleive
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, the TSK session...
    Eliza Madrigal: (oops, wrote ah)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: will be sitting down at dinner at that time
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice though, to have a dinner to attend :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Qt Core: especially if you don't have to cook it ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: I might not make the session either, depending on my grandfather and thought of taking the kids to the beach
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, I'm bring a few things :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: go to the beach
    Eliza Madrigal: I used to make 'jesus rolls' every year...
    Eliza Madrigal: crescent rolls with marshmallows in them...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: when you cook them, the marshmallow disappears
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: they call it an 'empty tomb' roll...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i must go now too, hopefully see you later today :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Qt and Eliza :
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, not sure about today yet either. Hope so :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye guys
    Qt Core: probably, bye SS
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you qt... talk soon
    Qt Core: bye
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