2010.04.03 19:00 - Feels Like Old Times

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera, but there are not many, since he had to leave pretty early.  The first conversation topic was the new viewer for Second Life.

    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: well most of me, seems the new viewer has transfomed me
    doug Sosa: hi all
    Paradise Tennant: smiles you are having a bad hair day for sure :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya doug
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that too, to much of a good thing can be a problem
    Paradise Tennant: rebake ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: well I took care of the hair problem
    stevenaia Michinaga: no it's more than a rebake issue, clothing lost from my inventory
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi doug
    doug Sosa: :)
    Paradise Tennant: how have you been doug :) I have not seen you in a while :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eos
    Paradise Tennant: hiya pema
    Pema Pera: hi there!
    Eos Amaterasu: hi all
    Pema Pera: Sorry to be late
    doug Sosa: hm how was i so lucky as to find you all here.
    Riddle Sideways: evening all
    Paradise Tennant: hiya riddle
    doug Sosa: i haven't been here in a month and this feels like old times, or nothing ahppened and i only thought i was gone :)
    Pema Pera: (I'm afraid I can stay only for a few minutes, have to get up at 5 am tomorrow, and still have to pack for my flight)
    Eos Amaterasu: all of those seem true, Doug
    Riddle Sideways: where have you been, Doug.
    Riddle Sideways: where do you go, Pema
    Compared to my flight, Doug's trips seemed a lot more adventurous!
    doug Sosa: guatemala, mendocino, stanford..
    Paradise Tennant: wow all good place !
    Paradise Tennant: *places
    stevenaia Michinaga: I've found that a wonderful thing about relationships, the time between encounters seems meaningless and is simple the "next" time
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at steve ..so very true
    Pema Pera: will visit the Bay Area riddle, to work with Steven Tainer
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, you can pick up after 30 years without missing a beat, I've noticed :-)
    doug Sosa: ah, maybe just maybe we meet.
    doug Sosa: The woman i am with, we dtaed incollege, then a forty five year break. justwonderful.
    --BELL--
    Pema Pera sneaking out softly . . . .
    Riddle Sideways: bye (softly)
    Paradise Tennant: safe travels pema :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: have a good flight
    Since I left here, I will not add further comments.
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Lucinda
    Eos Amaterasu: we do the same with time we do with distance
    Lucinda Lavender: hi
    Eos Amaterasu: we are all together and all separated here
    Paradise Tennant: hiya lucinda :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the long arm of the interent
    Lucinda Lavender: hello,paradise and all
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Lucinda
    doug Sosa: :)
    Paradise Tennant: what shall we talk of tonight .... :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eliza
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :))
    Riddle Sideways: weel we need to stop talking about Eliza now
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eos Amaterasu: dramatic! :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: that's okay... I'll pretend I don't understand what you are saying Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: we are in a play, anyway
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :))
    Lucinda Lavender: hi Eliza, what does Siworae mean?
    Eliza Madrigal: It means "love beyond time and space" actually
    Lucinda Lavender: ummm
    Eliza Madrigal: Its a tag Gaya made... having to do with her favorite film 'Il Mare'
    Paradise Tennant: lovely
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    stevenaia Michinaga: wonders what other kind of love there is?
    Riddle Sideways: fits with what Doug was saying
    Eliza Madrigal smiles and listens
    Eos Amaterasu: love that enters time and space
    stevenaia Michinaga: "enters"?
    Paradise Tennant: love is such a big word
    Paradise Tennant: almost much bigger than time and space
    Eos Amaterasu: (one syllable)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eos Amaterasu: What language is that (Siworae)?
    Riddle Sideways: hi calv
    Paradise Tennant: hiya cal :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I would guess Korean? It doesn't sound so...
    Eliza Madrigal: http://www.flixster.com/movie/siwore-il-mare
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone :)
    Lucinda Lavender: if it is beyond time and space is it them something on beyond the experience we have of love?
    Lucinda Lavender: hi Cal
    Riddle Sideways: hard to answer that for you
    Paradise Tennant: we are talking of love beyond time and space and distance for that matter ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: In the film, I guess time and space sort of bend toward love...
    doug Sosa: I like taking a Pab attitude towards love. then the cateogories of time and space are not very relevant, they get in the way of the experience and hint at too much thinking.
    Lucinda Lavender: ok...
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: love might be a perfect medium to experience our wishing to drop space and time resrictions
    Paradise Tennant: smiles .. yes
    Riddle Sideways: so much research already done into the subject :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I think there is a moment of discovery in love that is timeless
    Eos Amaterasu: a quantum of wonder :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Riddle Sideways: you can feel both connected and distance at the same moment
    Eos Amaterasu: like light meeting life in photosynthesis
    stevenaia Michinaga: I don't think distance matters
    doug Sosa: to see it as "timeless" to my ear still makes time very important. In the experience of love time is not necessarily present, and if we bring it in, it seems to dilutte, distance us' from the experience.
    Riddle Sideways: our love takes so many shapes over time, yet there was not a time without love
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I wonder if love can be an 'experience'... I know I wear the tag, but seems love is rightly undefineable :)
    Riddle Sideways: time and space try to put restrictions on a definition of love, yet have not that power
    Eos Amaterasu: quantum entanglement, whereby we feel connected at a distance
    stevenaia Michinaga: ironic that you can know what love is, yet it can remain undefinable
    Paradise Tennant: smiles still at .... "like light meeting life in photosynthesis" it seems everyone has a uniquely subjective but compelling perspective on love
    Riddle Sideways: would you cage it into words
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Riddle Sideways: would you cage it into only one definition
    Paradise Tennant: sort of like it is muic .. where we all hit slightly different notes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: many words for love, besides... aspects or angles...
    stevenaia Michinaga: shows the difference between knowing and defining
    Lucinda Lavender: maybe it is something that flows out of the body from a cellular level
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes !
    Eos Amaterasu: all of my cells smile...
    Eos Amaterasu: that's true health!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles back at Eos's cells! hehehe
    Lucinda Lavender: and the cleaner the observation then the cleaner the love...
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, motivations :)
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, the observer is helpless
    Eos Amaterasu: so the love is clean
    Lucinda Lavender: not through linear thinking...
    Riddle Sideways: why must you/we insist on defining
    Riddle Sideways: can it not just Be
    Eos Amaterasu thinks this is very Shakespearean :-)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Riddle Sideways: and yes it is. Shakespeare spent so much of my time with love defines, designs, etc.
    doug Sosa: I finished comesy of errors a few hours ago :)
    Eos Amaterasu: tragic :-(
    Paradise Tennant: love as a crowd pleaser :) works very well
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways starts reliving all those love movies and love songs and poems
    doug Sosa: I like the moments of lust fused with love.
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking of the mother child relationship and the importance of this..too
    Riddle Sideways: ah :)
    Riddle Sideways: and puppies and kitties
    Eos Amaterasu: /me's mind is boggled
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I need to get to bed... thanks everyone...
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Night
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite eliza
    Riddle Sideways: thanks and niters
    stevenaia Michinaga: Night
    Eos Amaterasu: Thanks Eliza, pray you have a good night
    Eliza Madrigal: waves :) Hugs, and thanks
    Lucinda Lavender: thinking of those who change the world for the better...
    Eos Amaterasu: the more universal the love the more unrequited
    Riddle Sideways: When Play as Being gets hard to do. It is easier to Play with Love
    Paradise Tennant: living love ...
    Riddle Sideways: love of self
    stevenaia Michinaga: they are a good couple
    Eos Amaterasu: you can't cheat being, though you can play with love
    stevenaia Michinaga: Being and love
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes steve
    Eos Amaterasu: Being in love
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Paradise Tennant: love in being
    Eos Amaterasu: existence itself is a gesture of compassion
    Riddle Sideways: as the great poets have said...
    Riddle Sideways: All you need is Love
    Eos Amaterasu: there's nothing you can see that isn't shown
    Riddle Sideways: It's easyyyyyy
    Eos Amaterasu: a PaB line if there ever was one
    Riddle Sideways: years ago there were the first communication satelites put up
    stevenaia Michinaga: thought that was a john lennon line, eos
    doug Sosa: if we were fifteen, as its gotten dark, we could play spin the bottle.
    Riddle Sideways: and the Beatles used them to sing a Love song to the earth peoples
    Eos Amaterasu: (yes, from All You Need is Love)
    Riddle Sideways: when I was 16, the beatles sang "All you need is Love" all around the world at the same time
    Eos Amaterasu: a global cellular golden moment
    Riddle Sideways: and I thought "Why not..."
    Lucinda Lavender: embodying it
    Eos Amaterasu: PaB in practice
    Riddle Sideways: was hard to be an angry teenager singer "Love is all you need..."
    Paradise Tennant: love heals .. so much .. the best medicine really
    Riddle Sideways: without answering aloud... what, who, how have you loved today?
    Riddle Sideways: Thank you all,
    Paradise Tennant: riddle that is a really worthwhile question to practise on :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you
    --BELL--
    doug Sosa: yes, time to go with the bell.
    stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy the remainder of the weekend :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: much loving to do
    Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite steve
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: not fade away
    Eos Amaterasu: my love is bigger than a cadillac, but still I gotta go back
    Eos Amaterasu: bye all
    Paradise Tennant: thank you everyone ..:) good nite .. may dreams be of love !
    Lucinda Lavender: bye :)
    Calvino Rabeni: bye lucinda
    Lucinda Lavender: bye...lovely!
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