2010.04.03 19:00 - Feels Like Old Times

The Guardian for this meeting was Pema Pera. The comments are by Pema Pera, but there are not many, since he had to leave pretty early.  The first conversation topic was the new viewer for Second Life.

Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: well most of me, seems the new viewer has transfomed me
doug Sosa: hi all
Paradise Tennant: smiles you are having a bad hair day for sure :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya doug
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that too, to much of a good thing can be a problem
Paradise Tennant: rebake ?
stevenaia Michinaga: well I took care of the hair problem
stevenaia Michinaga: no it's more than a rebake issue, clothing lost from my inventory
stevenaia Michinaga: hi doug
doug Sosa: :)
Paradise Tennant: how have you been doug :) I have not seen you in a while :)
Paradise Tennant: hiya eos
Paradise Tennant: hiya pema
Pema Pera: hi there!
Eos Amaterasu: hi all
Pema Pera: Sorry to be late
doug Sosa: hm how was i so lucky as to find you all here.
Riddle Sideways: evening all
Paradise Tennant: hiya riddle
doug Sosa: i haven't been here in a month and this feels like old times, or nothing ahppened and i only thought i was gone :)
Pema Pera: (I'm afraid I can stay only for a few minutes, have to get up at 5 am tomorrow, and still have to pack for my flight)
Eos Amaterasu: all of those seem true, Doug
Riddle Sideways: where have you been, Doug.
Riddle Sideways: where do you go, Pema

doug Sosa: guatemala, mendocino, stanford..
Paradise Tennant: wow all good place !
Paradise Tennant: *places
stevenaia Michinaga: I've found that a wonderful thing about relationships, the time between encounters seems meaningless and is simple the "next" time
Paradise Tennant: smiles at steve ..so very true
Pema Pera: will visit the Bay Area riddle, to work with Steven Tainer
Eos Amaterasu: yes, you can pick up after 30 years without missing a beat, I've noticed :-)
doug Sosa: ah, maybe just maybe we meet.
doug Sosa: The woman i am with, we dtaed incollege, then a forty five year break. justwonderful.
--BELL--
Pema Pera sneaking out softly . . . .
Riddle Sideways: bye (softly)
Paradise Tennant: safe travels pema :)
stevenaia Michinaga: have a good flight

Riddle Sideways: Hi Lucinda
Eos Amaterasu: we do the same with time we do with distance
Lucinda Lavender: hi
Eos Amaterasu: we are all together and all separated here
Paradise Tennant: hiya lucinda :)
stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the long arm of the interent
Lucinda Lavender: hello,paradise and all
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Lucinda
doug Sosa: :)
Paradise Tennant: what shall we talk of tonight .... :)
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Eliza
Paradise Tennant: hiya eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :))
Riddle Sideways: weel we need to stop talking about Eliza now
Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
Eos Amaterasu: dramatic! :-)
Eliza Madrigal: that's okay... I'll pretend I don't understand what you are saying Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: :)
Eos Amaterasu: we are in a play, anyway
Eliza Madrigal: yes :))
Lucinda Lavender: hi Eliza, what does Siworae mean?
Eliza Madrigal: It means "love beyond time and space" actually
Lucinda Lavender: ummm
Eliza Madrigal: Its a tag Gaya made... having to do with her favorite film 'Il Mare'
Paradise Tennant: lovely
Lucinda Lavender: yes
stevenaia Michinaga: wonders what other kind of love there is?
Riddle Sideways: fits with what Doug was saying
Eliza Madrigal smiles and listens
Eos Amaterasu: love that enters time and space
stevenaia Michinaga: "enters"?
Paradise Tennant: love is such a big word
Paradise Tennant: almost much bigger than time and space
Eos Amaterasu: (one syllable)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Eos Amaterasu: What language is that (Siworae)?
Riddle Sideways: hi calv
Paradise Tennant: hiya cal :)
Eliza Madrigal: I would guess Korean? It doesn't sound so...
Eliza Madrigal: http://www.flixster.com/movie/siwore-il-mare
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Cal :)
Calvino Rabeni: Hi everyone :)
Lucinda Lavender: if it is beyond time and space is it them something on beyond the experience we have of love?
Lucinda Lavender: hi Cal
Riddle Sideways: hard to answer that for you
Paradise Tennant: we are talking of love beyond time and space and distance for that matter ;)
Eliza Madrigal: In the film, I guess time and space sort of bend toward love...
doug Sosa: I like taking a Pab attitude towards love. then the cateogories of time and space are not very relevant, they get in the way of the experience and hint at too much thinking.
Lucinda Lavender: ok...
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: love might be a perfect medium to experience our wishing to drop space and time resrictions
Paradise Tennant: smiles .. yes
Riddle Sideways: so much research already done into the subject :)
Eos Amaterasu: I think there is a moment of discovery in love that is timeless
Eos Amaterasu: a quantum of wonder :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Riddle Sideways: you can feel both connected and distance at the same moment
Eos Amaterasu: like light meeting life in photosynthesis
stevenaia Michinaga: I don't think distance matters
doug Sosa: to see it as "timeless" to my ear still makes time very important. In the experience of love time is not necessarily present, and if we bring it in, it seems to dilutte, distance us' from the experience.
Riddle Sideways: our love takes so many shapes over time, yet there was not a time without love
Eliza Madrigal: yes I wonder if love can be an 'experience'... I know I wear the tag, but seems love is rightly undefineable :)
Riddle Sideways: time and space try to put restrictions on a definition of love, yet have not that power
Eos Amaterasu: quantum entanglement, whereby we feel connected at a distance
stevenaia Michinaga: ironic that you can know what love is, yet it can remain undefinable
Paradise Tennant: smiles still at .... "like light meeting life in photosynthesis" it seems everyone has a uniquely subjective but compelling perspective on love
Riddle Sideways: would you cage it into words
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Riddle Sideways: would you cage it into only one definition
Paradise Tennant: sort of like it is muic .. where we all hit slightly different notes :)
Eliza Madrigal: many words for love, besides... aspects or angles...
stevenaia Michinaga: shows the difference between knowing and defining
Lucinda Lavender: maybe it is something that flows out of the body from a cellular level
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes !
Eos Amaterasu: all of my cells smile...
Eos Amaterasu: that's true health!
Eliza Madrigal smiles back at Eos's cells! hehehe
Lucinda Lavender: and the cleaner the observation then the cleaner the love...
Eliza Madrigal: ah, motivations :)
Eos Amaterasu: yes, the observer is helpless
Eos Amaterasu: so the love is clean
Lucinda Lavender: not through linear thinking...
Riddle Sideways: why must you/we insist on defining
Riddle Sideways: can it not just Be
Eos Amaterasu thinks this is very Shakespearean :-)
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Paradise Tennant: ;)
Riddle Sideways: and yes it is. Shakespeare spent so much of my time with love defines, designs, etc.
doug Sosa: I finished comesy of errors a few hours ago :)
Eos Amaterasu: tragic :-(
Paradise Tennant: love as a crowd pleaser :) works very well
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways starts reliving all those love movies and love songs and poems
doug Sosa: I like the moments of lust fused with love.
Lucinda Lavender: thinking of the mother child relationship and the importance of this..too
Riddle Sideways: ah :)
Riddle Sideways: and puppies and kitties
Eos Amaterasu: /me's mind is boggled
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I need to get to bed... thanks everyone...
Eliza Madrigal: :) Night
Paradise Tennant: nite nite eliza
Riddle Sideways: thanks and niters
stevenaia Michinaga: Night
Eos Amaterasu: Thanks Eliza, pray you have a good night
Eliza Madrigal: waves :) Hugs, and thanks
Lucinda Lavender: thinking of those who change the world for the better...
Eos Amaterasu: the more universal the love the more unrequited
Riddle Sideways: When Play as Being gets hard to do. It is easier to Play with Love
Paradise Tennant: living love ...
Riddle Sideways: love of self
stevenaia Michinaga: they are a good couple
Eos Amaterasu: you can't cheat being, though you can play with love
stevenaia Michinaga: Being and love
Paradise Tennant: smiles yes steve
Eos Amaterasu: Being in love
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Paradise Tennant: love in being
Eos Amaterasu: existence itself is a gesture of compassion
Riddle Sideways: as the great poets have said...
Riddle Sideways: All you need is Love
Eos Amaterasu: there's nothing you can see that isn't shown
Riddle Sideways: It's easyyyyyy
Eos Amaterasu: a PaB line if there ever was one
Riddle Sideways: years ago there were the first communication satelites put up
stevenaia Michinaga: thought that was a john lennon line, eos
doug Sosa: if we were fifteen, as its gotten dark, we could play spin the bottle.
Riddle Sideways: and the Beatles used them to sing a Love song to the earth peoples
Eos Amaterasu: (yes, from All You Need is Love)
Riddle Sideways: when I was 16, the beatles sang "All you need is Love" all around the world at the same time
Eos Amaterasu: a global cellular golden moment
Riddle Sideways: and I thought "Why not..."
Lucinda Lavender: embodying it
Eos Amaterasu: PaB in practice
Riddle Sideways: was hard to be an angry teenager singer "Love is all you need..."
Paradise Tennant: love heals .. so much .. the best medicine really
Riddle Sideways: without answering aloud... what, who, how have you loved today?
Riddle Sideways: Thank you all,
Paradise Tennant: riddle that is a really worthwhile question to practise on :)
Paradise Tennant: smiles
Lucinda Lavender: thank you
--BELL--
doug Sosa: yes, time to go with the bell.
stevenaia Michinaga: enjoy the remainder of the weekend :)
stevenaia Michinaga: much loving to do
Paradise Tennant: smiles good nite steve
Lucinda Lavender: :)
Eos Amaterasu: not fade away
Eos Amaterasu: my love is bigger than a cadillac, but still I gotta go back
Eos Amaterasu: bye all
Paradise Tennant: thank you everyone ..:) good nite .. may dreams be of love !
Lucinda Lavender: bye :)
Calvino Rabeni: bye lucinda
Lucinda Lavender: bye...lovely!