2010.04.09 01:00 - Human nature is stronger than furniture arrangement

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.



    Archmage Atlantis: Hiya

    Archmage Atlantis: How are you Cal

    Archmage Atlantis: ?

    Calvino Rabeni: Parts of me are excellent, Arch. How of you?

    Wol Euler: hello arch, cal

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Wol

    Calvino Rabeni: :) Wol

    Archmage Atlantis: I like that a answer.....parts of me are excellent also

    Wol Euler: your hat-wearing skills are high today.

    Archmage Atlantis: It's a "say something" hat :)

    Calvino Rabeni: The clothes make the man .. more so in SL

    Calvino Rabeni: A couple of nights ago the hat did say something - an entire story, to my surprise

    Wol Euler: :)

    Archmage Atlantis: My father was of the generation that wore hats all the time.....oh, would you share the story, Cal

    Calvino Rabeni: Actually it got captured in the log at http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/...elling_a_story

    Wol Euler: ok, ty

    Archmage Atlantis: Oh, let me read, brb

    Calvino Rabeni: All started with the hat however

    Wol Euler: hello cosmicflower

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello <3

    Calvino Rabeni: :) Cosmic

    Archmage Atlantis: Hiya Cos.......amusing story Cal *g*

    --BELL--

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello Arch, _/!\_

    Archmage Atlantis: _/!\_

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what have you been talking about here?

    Wol Euler reads and giggles

    Archmage Atlantis: Interesting how that style of hat is associated with individuals in detective work........My father was a railroad detective

    Wol Euler: "Complication is my middle name." Brilliant.

    Calvino Rabeni: TY. I was impressed by the way the genre is understood widely outside USA

    Calvino Rabeni: Everyone has seen it I suppose, translated to their language

    Wol Euler nods.

    Calvino Rabeni: but a lot of it is idiom and slang.

    Wol Euler: we've all seen the films

    Calvino Rabeni: There's a radio humorist - Garrison Keillor, who does a funny regular skit called "Guy Noir" about some crazy detective

    Calvino Rabeni: I dunno how well these translate for non-american speakers

    Archmage Atlantis: Before Keller there was a group called "Firesign Theator" that did a similar character in a mock radio show

    Calvino Rabeni: "Nick Danger"

    Calvino Rabeni: "Third Eye"

    Archmage Atlantis: Yep

    Wol Euler smiles.

    Archmage Atlantis: Nick would read his name backwards looking out through the glass on his office window.....

    Archmage Atlantis: Talk about a change of perspective *g*

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: do people still have their names written in mock-gold leaf on glass doors?

    Wol Euler: I can't think when I was last in that kind of office building, if ever.

    Archmage Atlantis: No one has doors anymore

    Wol Euler: true, that would be it.

    Archmage Atlantis: The "open office" concept was supposed to break down the barriers between management and the managed

    Archmage Atlantis: chuckles

    Wol Euler: a fine theory.

    Calvino Rabeni: It led to the "gopher farm"

    Wol Euler: wrong as hell, but a fine theory none the less :)

    Archmage Atlantis: It sounded good......it persisted because it was cheaper for the company

    Wol Euler nods

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but does it break down barriers? still those managements do have their rooms

    Archmage Atlantis: As was making the cubicles smaller and smaller

    Wol Euler: easier to move desks around and call that "democratic" than to change practices.

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: at least Jukka did not like when they took away his room..

    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, Cos, human nature is stronger than furniture arrangement :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Calvino Rabeni: There are criticisms of all these innovations, as they all have support for both "sides"

    Calvino Rabeni: (he said, non-specifically)

    Archmage Atlantis: The only place I have seen furniture arrangement make a difference is in conference rooms....round vs. square. vs. the U shape

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, but perhaps there should be some privacy also, people do need that too

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: I agree Cos, ......, I see that in children (and adults) who have faced difficult situations they cannot resolve......they build a private space in their minds

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello Fael <3

    Fael Illyar: Hi Everyone :)

    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Love :)

    Wol Euler: good morning, fael

    Fael Illyar: Hello Love :)

    Archmage Atlantis: I always find the greeting "Good Morning" to be ironic in SL

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why? ;D

    Wol Euler smiles. It depends on common knowledge, and common timezones.

    Archmage Atlantis: As everyone is generally in different time zones

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah ;)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yess

    Archmage Atlantis: I've tried various phrases....like "Hope the time of day is well by you".....but so far no luck....everything seem awkward

    Fael Illyar: "Hi" works :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Archmage Atlantis: I suppose one could convince oneself that in a meeting, all are experiencing the same SL time

    Archmage Atlantis: You're right Fael......it's my background that makes me feel a need for a longer greeting, not any true need

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, I usually ask also long way

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how are you doing

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or good morning, or how ever

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its just,

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: got used to say so ;)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: so.. how are you Fael? ;)

    Fael Illyar: I'm good :) How are you Cos?

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) ty, very good, last night got some sleep. ;) Simo did sleep well, two other nights have been a bit waking up ;)

    Fael Illyar: Ah, sleep deprivation that comes with a baby :)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yeap ;)

    Wol Euler smiles.

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but got last night about 6 hours to 7

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but woke up 2 times

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but its okey, when at day time can just BE

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or sleep if feels like

    Wol Euler: my sister said that the way to survive with small kids is to nap when they do

    Wol Euler: fine if you aren't working from home, I suppose

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes, and enjoy of that short time, when they are so so little ones

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3

    Wol Euler: mmmhmm

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: Having never had children, I didn't really realize how short that time can be......a friend I met ol when he just started college is graduating this year.....and in my mind almost no time has passed

    Wol Euler nods.

    Archmage Atlantis: I don't envy you Wol in picking a name for this log....We've drifted all over the place :)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, thats true, time goes so fast

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: that might be the title.

    Wol Euler: (either of those)

    Archmage Atlantis: :)

    Calvino Rabeni: How about "Get My Drift"

    Archmage Atlantis: Succint, intriguing...I like it Cal *g*

    Wol Euler: done.

    Calvino Rabeni: The question is, whether there is anything not yet covered

    Calvino Rabeni: Death, taxes, existentialism, medieval art, agricultural techniques, how "Laundries" work in different cultures,

    Wol Euler: and whether pigs have wings.

    Calvino Rabeni: Exactly :)

    Archmage Atlantis: Depends on one's own outlook....is infinity a valid concept, or is only finite what is real?

    Wol Euler: that depends on how you define "real", I guess.

    Calvino Rabeni: Great ... like it.

    Archmage Atlantis: Ah yes, the Bill Clinton defense.....depends on the what the meaning of "is" is

    Archmage Atlantis: *g*

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: a philosophical conundrum: define "is" without using the word "is"

    --BELL--

    Archmage Atlantis: I think you rang the 15 minute bell, Wol.......ah, there it is

    Fael Illyar: you know, I think "is" happens to be one the axioms in our conceptual space.

    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni decides it is time to wander home

    Fael Illyar: Have fun Cal :)

    Wol Euler: goodnight cal, sleep well

    Archmage Atlantis: Smile, agree Cal, me too

    Calvino Rabeni: But if you get these semantic issues ironed out, email me right away :)

    Wol Euler: 'night arch, take care

    Archmage Atlantis: Night all

    Calvino Rabeni: Take care

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Cal, would you like to show me Your art?

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or going on rl?

    Calvino Rabeni: OK I will TP you, can stop there on my way :)

    Fael Illyar: Ah, well, looks like I'm going too :)

    Fael Illyar: Have fun Wol :)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all are going ;)

    Wol Euler: bye fael, bye cos, enjoy the day

    Fael Illyar: have fun Cos :)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thank you very much, see You soon Wol ;)

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You too Fael

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