2010.04.12 07:00 - Creating a Line to the Inner Child

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.

    Voices convey worlds

    Eden Haiku: Hi Lucinda!
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Eden!
    Eden Haiku: How are you this morning?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eden and Lucinda! :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Pretty good.Hi Eliza!
    Eden Haiku: Hi Eliza!
    Eliza Madrigal: I can't stay, but wanted to poke my nose through the door to say hello :)
    Eliza Madrigal: And to thank Eden for such a wonderful experience last night....
    Eliza Madrigal: so talented :)
    Eden Haiku: Nice to see your nose :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eden Haiku: blushing
    Eden Haiku: My accent was really very French at the end, I'm afraid...
    Eliza Madrigal: I went to bed so full and happy, and found it surprising how much texture poetry takes on when read...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh! That added to the experience!
    Eliza Madrigal: And your singing!!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I am curious what was happening!
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how nice to hear that. Poetry as lullaby! :)
    Eden Haiku: Was giving a poetry reading yesterday night at Bleu Studio.
    Lucinda Lavender: I see
    Eliza Madrigal: Let me give you the event note... even though passed, is nice.
    Eliza Madrigal: I know they'll do it again
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you!
    Eden Haiku: With my friend Ulrich who is a wonderful poet, isn't he Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: Quite wonderful, yes...
    Eliza Madrigal: and enjoyed his accent so much too
    Eden Haiku: yes ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: It always surprises me when people apologize for the things that make them most interesting :)
    Eliza Madrigal: AH, friend has arrived
    Eliza Madrigal: (((Eden)) ((Lucinda))) Bye for now
    Lucinda Lavender: bye!
    Eden Haiku: Oups, missed her by a beat. Bye Eliza! (smiling through the log)
    Lucinda Lavender: I was performing last night in a choral /orchestra concert of Alexander's Feast /or The Power of Music by Handel
    Lucinda Lavender: Sounds like you were experiencing it too...
    Eden Haiku: Oh how nice Lucinda. I love Handel music!
    Eden Haiku: Which voice do you sing?
    Lucinda Lavender: It was pretty fun!
    Lucinda Lavender: Soprano
    Lucinda Lavender: After we go to the conductors house and listen to the recording too very fun
    Eden Haiku: Oh, nice. I just sing some of my verses in poetry readings...I'm not a real singer. ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: a great way to acknowledge the experience.
    Eden Haiku: Yes!
    Eden Haiku: Was it recorded for a CD?
    Lucinda Lavender: singing, all singing is an accomplishment
    Lucinda Lavender: just an in house recording
    Eden Haiku: Yes, the singing voice does convey worlds that the talking voice cannot isn'it?
    Lucinda Lavender: ummm
    Eden Haiku: Hi Crusty, welcome ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Crusty!
    Crusty Goldshark: hi - thank you hi
    Eden Haiku: You have been here before Crusty I believe, so you know that we are on record?
    Crusty Goldshark: Yes I am on record - the greatest hits of Crusty Goldshark
    Crusty Goldshark: hits - oops
    Eden Haiku: Would any of you pick a topic for the next pause?
    Crusty Goldshark: pause and space
    Eden Haiku: Good: pause and space.
    Eden Haiku: Thanks.
    Crusty Goldshark: When do we start that?
    Eden Haiku: The bell is going to ring in a minute.

     

    --BELL--


    Bell and babies

    Crusty Goldshark: AH OK will turn my sound down so it does not distract me . . .
    Eden Haiku: Welcome Cosmicflower ;-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi to All <3
    Crusty Goldshark: hi
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Cosmic flower...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sorry being late
    Eden Haiku: No worries...how is your little one?
    Crusty Goldshark: We are awaiting a bell that is about to arrive . . .
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, he's been sleeping and eating
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: happy baby
    Eden Haiku: Crusty, the bell is meant to signal the beginning of the pause. As you turned your sound down, I suppose you did not hear it..
    Crusty Goldshark: Talented - I can not do both simultaneously . . . :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Eden Haiku: How many days old now?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: one month
    Crusty Goldshark: No I never heard the bell - so I suppose the knock out is technical . . .
    Eden Haiku: There will be another bell at 7,30 then at 7,45. For 90 seconds . The chat also signals the pause.
    Crusty Goldshark: Oh I heard the bell - that means I have to pause - OK will do
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Yakuzza.
    Crusty Goldshark: Hi Yakuzza - just pausing for some space
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: good morning
    Eden Haiku: Oh, one month already. The chat log I read , your baby was 4 days old. I thought it is so wonderful you can share with us.
    Eden Haiku: Hello yakuzza!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: time goes very fast :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, it does ;-))
    Crusty Goldshark: This is true - time flies, sometimes it goes backwards I have a time travel project
    Crusty Goldshark: tmxxine.com
    Eden Haiku: Say more about this Crusty, please?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: nice :D
    Eden Haiku: Ah, will look it up..
    Zen Arado: Hi all
    Crusty Goldshark: Yes basically I was here a year or more ago - but it seems like only a few moments
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hi Zen
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Zen
    Crusty Goldshark: Gasho Zen
    Eden Haiku: Hello Zen, happy to see you ;))
    Zen Arado: how did poetry reading go Eden?
    Crusty Goldshark: We are discussing space and wether it is empty or not?
    Eden Haiku: It went very well . Bleu Studio is beautiful. Blue flowers floating around...
    Crusty Goldshark: and the haiku of emptiness . . .
    Zen Arado: good
    Eden Haiku: And my favorite Tibetan monk exceptionnally left his retreat at Crestone to attend, what an honour ;)))
    Zen Arado: :)
    Crusty Goldshark: What an honour , where did he retreat from?
    Zen Arado: don't know how he gets the time
    Eden Haiku: He is taking a retreat at a Tibetan center in Crestone.
    Zen Arado: at zen retreats they start at 6 and don't finish until 9.30 pm
    Zen Arado: and you aren't supposed to read books even
    Crusty Goldshark: Gosh we do much the reverse on Yinyana retreats
    Zen Arado: or use cell phones :)
    Crusty Goldshark: Cell phone meditations can be a distraction . . .
    Zen Arado: but isn't the idea to get away from 'your usual activities?

     

    --BELL--

    To be on the path of an active life

    Eden Haiku: In Dharamsala, as well as in other Tibetan empowerments I have attended, it is usually very free-style ;))
    Crusty Goldshark: LOL - you usual activities are probably the greatest form of practice according to most Limas
    Zen Arado: yes - but why go on retreat then?
    Eden Haiku: Even His Holiness is on Twitter now ;))
    Crusty Goldshark: I suppose we go on retreat to pay the game of being on a path . . .
    Zen Arado: to me it removes distractions so you have to go more inwards
    Eden Haiku: It is more about transmission of oral teachings.
    Eden Haiku: So you have to be there, away from your daily chores.
    Crusty Goldshark: I find going inward a distraction from my outer reflection - probably doing something wrong
    Zen Arado: well we only have one dharma talk perday
    Eden Haiku: You are attending one soon Zen aren't you?
    Zen Arado: no I changed my mind
    Crusty Goldshark: sounds excessive - do you get a talk from an enlightyened being perchance?
    Zen Arado: it is too exhausting for me
    Eden Haiku: Ah, yes, you have to listen to your body.
    Zen Arado: the co-abbot of San Francisco zen center
    Eden Haiku: I also changed plans about my poetry readings in France. Was still too tired from the trip to India.
    Zen Arado: I find it so difficult to keep up with the schedule
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, it comes to my mind of game of being on a path.... isn`t it the most important.. to be on a path of activ life? well, we are here experiencing human things.. we can "rest on grave"..
    Zen Arado: I am too frail physically now
    Eden Haiku: Yes, everything we do is part of the path, I agree Cosmic.
    Zen Arado: everyday life is the most important part of practice I think
    Crusty Goldshark: Yes being in life is hard - virtual enlightenment can be a game too . . .
    Zen Arado: but an intensive break is helpful too
    Zen Arado: working with life problems...
    Eden Haiku: Yes, maybe you can go to some other retreat Zen, when you feel stronger?
    Zen Arado: but I won't ever feel stronger unfortunately
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: joyfull life
    Eden Haiku: Oh I thought maybe this could come in waves. Sorry to hear that Zen ;)
    Crusty Goldshark: Joyfill living sounds a good plan - I'll join . . .
    Zen Arado: I think life itself presents us with the experiences we need tro learn from
    Zen Arado: ever notice that?
    Eden Haiku: A tiny baby is a good reminder of joyful life isn'it Cosmic?
    Crusty Goldshark: Life is just life - we learn what we are up for . . .
    Zen Arado: sometimes it feels like it is mapped out for me
    Eden Haiku: I was teaching a course in collective intelligence once.
    Crusty Goldshark: Babies are Buddhas - much closer to the source . . .
    Zen Arado: yes agree Crusty
    Eden Haiku: Having my students read a book by Pierre Levy, the French philosopher.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is it to learn from, or to remember?
    Eden Haiku: They were science students but they were stuck with the language, very poetic,
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes, we can feel Joy of many many things
    Zen Arado: one of my friends is interested in collective intelligence
    Crusty Goldshark: Rememberance is a form of learning what is present
    Eden Haiku: I felt stuck too, not knowing how to convey the brilliance of the book to them.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Babies still remember...
    Zen Arado: remember what Crusty?
    Eden Haiku: During the pause, I met a former student with her few months old baby.
    Eden Haiku: Invited her with the baby to the class.
    Zen Arado: :)
    Crusty Goldshark: Remember to be Present
    Eden Haiku: All the big tough boys greeted the baby.
    Zen Arado: but being present means no memory?
    Eden Haiku: The energy shifted and we could then really start studying the book :))
    Lucinda Lavender: I must go begin the week...joy and presence to all!
    Zen Arado: ah yes Eden
    Eden Haiku: Have a nice week Lucinda!
    Zen Arado: bye Lucinda
    Crusty Goldshark: Does it - perhaps it is a question of how present and how stuck in the past, illusions, or future plans
    Crusty Goldshark: Bye now
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you
    Eden Haiku: I think they were just stuck in their minds and so was I.
    Eden Haiku: The baby pulverized that.
    Zen Arado: I used to teach too and energy level of class was important
    Eden Haiku: Blew our minds :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: softened all those big guys :)
    Eden Haiku: Also a baby in a communication class is unexpected...
    Crusty Goldshark: :)
    Eden Haiku: Oh, bye Crusty.
    Zen Arado: baby talk
    Eden Haiku: Oh no sorry, you were saying bye to Lucinda ...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but babies are still so open that they do remember**
    Eden Haiku: A topic for next pause?
    Crusty Goldshark: yes - also seemed to temporary levitate - not sure why :)
    Eden Haiku: yes, before being born. Being in being, nice topic..

    --BELL--

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :)
    Zen Arado: babies have pure awareness
    Zen Arado: then we give them a self concept
    Eden Haiku: Anyone would like to report their experience during the pause?
    Zen Arado: and feed them labels for everything...
    Eden Haiku: Pure awareness, you think?
    Eden Haiku: I would say they shift between two worlds...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and that is something to remember also for adults. Thats why I said having idea of remember, more than learn on path
    Zen Arado: they gradually have veils of concepts drawn over them
    Eden Haiku: Veils yes, and remembering how it was before the veils....
    Zen Arado: Wordsworth said something along those lines
    Eden Haiku: Before the ego coalesced.
    Eden Haiku: remember the quote Zen?
    Zen Arado: It's in the Prelude
    Zen Arado: but I looked for it before and couldn't find
    Eden Haiku: Ah ok...That is fine.
    Darren Islar: hi everyone
    Eden Haiku: Hello Darren .
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Darren
    Crusty Goldshark: hi Darren
    Zen Arado: it's such a long poem
    Zen Arado: ah got it!
    Zen Arado: But trailing clouds of glory do we come 65 From God, who is our home: Heaven lies about us in our infancy! Shades of the prison-house begin to close Upon the growing Boy,
    Zen Arado: it's from 'Ode to Immortality'
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how beautiful Zen...
    Zen Arado: very famous lines

    Gatekeepers of silence

    Eden Haiku: Darren, we have been talking about how we just have to remember our being in Being, before the veils of ego closed on us...:))
    Darren Islar: ok, thanks
    Darren Islar: sounds interesting, will read the log
    Eden Haiku: When I was living in an ashram in India years ago, I had made a vow of silence at some point and spent about 10 days not uttering a word.
    Zen Arado: how did you find that Eden?
    Eden Haiku: Well, I became a close friends with all the babies and toddlers of the ashram.
    Eden Haiku: I realized they lived in this world and they were welcoming me to this world of silence and Being.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: What kind it was there in ashram?
    Zen Arado: because you don't need speech for them?
    Zen Arado: yes

    --BELL--


    Eden Haiku: It was an hindou ashram, we were studying Kashmir shivaism, Cosmic.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: did you found out something you did not knew already?
    Eden Haiku: I had just read Gandhi's autobiography and he relates he takes vows of silence. I copycatted him :))
    Crusty Goldshark: OK gotta cook a mince curry - many thanks for the companionship - hope to sit with you again - be kind to the fish
    Zen Arado: bye Crusty :)
    Crusty Goldshark: Crusty out
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bye Crusty,
    Darren Islar: bye Crusty
    Eden Haiku: Oh yes, I did not know toddlers lived in such a peace before, that they were gatekeepers of silence.
    Eden Haiku: Bye Crusty, thanks for coming.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D ahhhhhh
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its wonderful to listen silence sometimes... ;)
    Eden Haiku: Well, not always I know :))) Your very real one month baby must scream sometimes :)))
    Zen Arado: zen retreats are silent
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its music for my ears (having 3 more sons at age 9,8 and 6)
    Zen Arado: but I don't notice it now
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, baby do not scream, he is kinda easy baby
    Eden Haiku: Oh wow, you must be laughing at my musings about toddlers being silent ...LOL
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but older ones are much with noise ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, and they usually bring more boys to home when coming from school… I might say... much living on house
    Eden Haiku: Oh yes! Is the baby a boy too?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but golden midway might be the best ;) not too much silent and peace living, or not too much noise and action too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes, baby is boy too ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its enough now, boys ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: kids ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
    Darren Islar: the only woman in the house :-)
    Eden Haiku: 4 boys, you are on your way to saintlyhood Cosmicflower!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes ;)
    Eden Haiku: says she modestly :)))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, I hope so ;)
    Zen Arado: need to be :)
    Darren Islar: and the fifth one, does he behave like an adult (because men sometimes can be baby's too :-)
    Eden Haiku: You are certainly in touch with life in its most wondrous form :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: doing my best and respecting their free will to choose also. ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all these kids are very special ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, he behave like an adult ;) I am very glad about it... having man, not 5th child
    Zen Arado: I am trying to be like a baby :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its really important ;)
    Darren Islar: :-) Zen
    Zen Arado: like a little child anyway
    Zen Arado: Jesus said to become like a little child
    Eden Haiku: baby Zen, the kingdom is opening for you!
    Zen Arado: but not childish

     

    Darren starts a new thread by sharing about an old hurt in a very open and moving way

    Darren Islar: there is no harm in that, except when adults also want dot ditch there responsibilities
    Eden Haiku: childish is ok too, sometimes...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, touch with life certainly. ;) there is no time much think of any else than being human, as much as I can be...
    Eden Haiku: As in playful.
    Darren Islar: children are more open, curious
    Zen Arado: aware
    Eden Haiku: Being human, yes.
    Darren Islar: I don' know about being aware, but they 'feel' more then most adults do
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, but there is this inner child, what do not disappearsce energies
    Eden Haiku: Do you feel you can let your inner child breath here in SL Cosmicflower?
    Darren Islar: mine is hurt, not easy being playful then
    Zen Arado: we cover our inner child up maybe
    Darren Islar: you need to start over then
    Eden Haiku: Your inner child was hurt Darren?
    Darren Islar: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, I think my inner child breath all the time
    Darren Islar: it didn't grow up to be a nosy, curious, playful person
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but here in sl there is some relaxation
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
    Eden Haiku: This place might be a good place to heal him(her). (Smiling to Liza through the logs).
    Zen Arado: there is still time Darren!
    Darren Islar: yes, Zen, I think so too :-)
    Darren Islar: oh and Eden, I think so too
    Zen Arado: we are all working with that in some way
    Darren Islar: true
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, once one had hurt inner child, it healed when adult person One-Self started to care /nurse child
    Eden Haiku: Cosmic, I admire people who have children (such a responsability). But yes, I see what you mean. My mother had 4 children and her inner child was very well alive...
    Darren Islar: sometimes the inner child needs companionship, somebody that loves him, sometimes it needs to be free
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: like a vision, of one-self nursing child inside

    --BELL--

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I am me, and My-Self, as I have been as child too
    Darren Islar: right Cosmic
    Darren Islar: (about a few lines back)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: somebody that loves him, is one-self
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
    Darren Islar: even that can be disturbed
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, ahh, of course can also get healed when some one else do love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: as well
    Eden Haiku: How so Darren?
    Darren Islar: but it is where it starts
    Darren Islar: pushing away the child in order to stay alive
    Eden Haiku: Defense mechanism yes...
    Zen Arado: yes - self survival
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, but there is no need to fear to not to stay alive
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not anymore? Right??
    Darren Islar: to be the grown up facing responsibilities that aren't yours
    Darren Islar: tell that to my inner child Cosmic, he won't believe you
    Zen Arado: but we can relax the self survival mechanisms
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, A slow gradual healing process, step by step...
    Zen Arado: yes gradually
    Darren Islar: yes Eden
    Eden Haiku: I see what you mean Darren :)
    Zen Arado: allow ourselves to be ourselves
    Darren Islar: mmhmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but isn`t that inner child You?
    Eden Haiku: But sharing about it like you do know is an extraordinary step I think, thank you for that.
    Zen Arado: yes but we be false trying to please others
    Darren Islar: In order to heal I found al lot of me's :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thats a good start <3
    Eden Haiku: Would you like to share the story of the hurt Darren? In a nutshell?
    Darren Islar: need to say that I'm not sure why I'm sharing this :-)
    Eden Haiku: We were talking about babies... It brought up memories…
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: perhaps we are here creating that line to there inner child..??
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how beautiful!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its not disappeared Darren <3
    Darren Islar: I was abandoned twice by my parents for reasons they couldn't control
    Darren Islar: but as a baby I can only remember the feeling
    Eden Haiku: Yes, you could see us here at your line to your inner child Darren.
    Darren Islar: And of course I didn't understand why they abandoned me
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how tragic Darren.
    Zen Arado: yes would leave emotional scars
    Eden Haiku: feeling your pain...
    Darren Islar: it happened in the period that children are making contact, feeling the need to be dependent
    Darren Islar: so it shook my world into peaces
    Eden Haiku: listening
    Darren Islar: most difficult thing is, that I know myself only with this hurt child inside
    Darren Islar: I hardly know what it is to be 'normal'
    Eden Haiku: inner child is screaming for your help, that is why I think.
    Darren Islar: feeling the need to be dependent and being able to trust that
    Darren Islar: I was one, second time almost two
    Darren Islar: at one I went to foster parents, at two I came home
    Darren Islar: 'home'
    Eden Haiku: Do you have any memories, visual or otherwise?
    Darren Islar: no
    Eden Haiku: Just feelings...
    Darren Islar: only in my emotional structure
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: disturbing feelings
    Eden Haiku: Terrible feelings of abandonment.
    Zen Arado: scared to trust people?
    Darren Islar: being abandoned and being afraid to get abandoned
    Darren Islar: sure Zen
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, You must be very strong Darren
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hard way to find one-self
    Eden Haiku: Yes, the fact that it happened twice must have been very difficult.
    Darren Islar: That why it is amazing I'm telling this
    Darren Islar: second time was hardest
    Eden Haiku: Do you feel incomfortable doing so Darren? I think it is part of a healing process..
    Darren Islar: in those days the theory was that my fosterparents weren't allowed to see me any more
    Darren Islar: in order to bond as quick as possible with my 'mother'
    Darren Islar: who I didn't recognize anymore
    Darren Islar: nowadays they wouldn't be thinking of doing it that way
    Eden Haiku: Yes, that hurt the bonding process.
    Zen Arado: it sounds brutal
    Darren Islar: now they let a child to build up a relationship with the new parents
    Darren Islar: it was
    Darren Islar: but in those days it was normal
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: comforts Darrens heart
    Eden Haiku: But, as an adult now, you can slowly take care of the hurt child, like you would of a scared little animal.
    Darren Islar: yes, I can
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and feeling Love is most powerful thing
    Eden Haiku: I could feel Cosmic's maternal love flowing through the pavilion. How wonderful!
    Darren Islar: :-) thanks Cosmic

     

    --BELL--

     

    As Zen has to leave for  RL, we slowly wind down, wondering about our dear friend Yakuzza who has been very very quiet…

    Zen Arado: have to I have a visitor in RL
    Darren Islar: ok see you Zen
    Zen Arado: thanks for discussion
    Zen Arado: bye
    Darren Islar: bye
    Eden Haiku: Bye Zen (already gone Zen,...)
    Darren Islar: but I also found out I can't do it alone
    Darren Islar: but I finally found a great therapist
    Eden Haiku: Right, you need a support system Darren.
    Eden Haiku: Oh, that is wonderful!
    Darren Islar: it took her over two years to make her trust her :-)
    Eden Haiku: And now you feel safe enough, that is good!
    Darren Islar: *make me trust her
    Darren Islar: I don't know
    Eden Haiku: You were talking about Liza maybe ? (your other self...) ?
    Darren Islar: and sometimes I do things of which I don't know why I'm doing them
    Darren Islar: and Darren can take me by surprise :-)
    Eden Haiku: He is taking you by surprise this morning isn' he?
    Darren Islar: Nevertheless I feel comfort in telling this story
    Darren Islar: and you being here
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: You can say that :-)
    Eden Haiku: I feel honoured to listen to you Darren. These stories are so very important so we can understand each other and heal each other.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3
    Darren Islar: thanks Eden
    Eden Haiku: I'm amazed at Yakuzza extraordinary gift for being silent.
    Darren Islar: If he is here :-)
    Eden Haiku: I think he is.
    Eden Haiku: You try to wake him up Cosmic? (She is holding a big pink hammer in her hands!)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, sadly there don`t come voice from hammer ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not responding
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, perhaps he is
    Darren Islar: he can be away sometimes :-)
    Eden Haiku: Well maybe who I was taking for a silent Buddha is only a sleepy German guy at work :)))
    Darren Islar: Wol framed his head lately, he woke up the next day with sex prims around his face :-)
    Darren Islar: hahah
    Eden Haiku: A trick on him? Let's think about something...good idea!
    Eden Haiku: But I guess you need Wol's tech abilities to paste something on someone's else avatar...
    Darren Islar: well, he has been fooled with already
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what happened? I started to levitate..
    Eden Haiku: It does happen here sometimes Cosmic, do not worry.
    Darren Islar: it was pretty simple
    Darren Islar: t didn't stick
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this is something I would like to do in rl too ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but needing pillows when getting down ;)
    Darren Islar: If you stand up comsic and sit down again you will feel your pillow again :-)
    Eden Haiku: Levitate? yes, me too!!!
    Darren Islar: or you keep on floating
    Eden Haiku: Well, we can admire your beautiful outfit Cosmic!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thank You Dear Sister <3
    Eden Haiku: :))
    Darren Islar: yes we can do stuff here which only enlightened beings can do in rl :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: would you accept friendship Eden?
    Eden Haiku: Oh, with pleasure Cosmic!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thanks <3
    Darren Islar: what does <3 means
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: heart
    Darren Islar: *means
    Darren Islar: ah, ok
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its heart but not right way, alongside
    Darren Islar: ah sure, just need to look a bit .....eh...... different to my screen
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: :)))
    Eden Haiku: I also sent a friendship invitation to Yakuzza. :) Are you friends with him? If not maybe you send him one too and he will wake up wondering what he did to be so friendly to us suddenly?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes I will send one ;)

    --BELL--

    Eden Haiku: Glad you ask Darren, I was also wondering what <3 meant...
    Darren Islar: sorry, I like to be friends with Yaku, but like to invite him when he is 'conscious'
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Eden Haiku: Oh, but he can decline you know Darren :)
    Darren Islar: but I like the idea
    Darren Islar: sure, but that can always happen
    Eden Haiku: Funny how we can perceive people's energy through the screen . I feel Yakuzza's energy so benevolent and so kind. Even in abstensia...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, it is amazing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: need to be open kind ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to feel I think ;)
    Darren Islar: But I don't like him to decline it because he doesn't know what to do with it
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I'm very receptive. Clearsentient :))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes it enough for example when Jukka(my rl partner) start to speak of some his work mates. That talk is like a visit card to person
    Eden Haiku: Oh, sure, I understand your point Darren. I would not ask him if I was not sure. But I like doing it in this unexpected way now :)
    Darren Islar: oh, but as I said, I like the idea
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sometimes needed to say also, "please do not bring him/her to my shoulders" some are like a dark clouds to landing
    Darren Islar: it is just not for me
    Eden Haiku: I suspect he is listening to us. Because how can he have his avatar away for so long without it saying away?
    Darren Islar: easlily if you know how
    Eden Haiku: Do you Darren?
    Darren Islar: in viewer 2.0 it is even an option in prefs
    Darren Islar: I'm never away
    Eden Haiku: Oh, I see...Very clever little Yaku!
    Darren Islar: but that is not for me, but for Liza :-)
    Darren Islar: you have those green dots on the map
    Eden Haiku: Oh Liza does that, good to know...:))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Is it good that new viewer?
    Darren Islar: sometimes they are no more then avatars who are doing grocery shopping
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: should it be loaded?
    Darren Islar: getting paid for being a green dot
    Eden Haiku: Camping?
    Darren Islar: some speak highly of the new viewer
    Eden Haiku: Oh, I thought they had to come back to the screen every 10 minutes..
    Darren Islar: but if you use only the more simple functions, most aren't so pleased with it
    Darren Islar: I mean if you're not a scripter or something
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Darren Islar: but I do like the linking part and the image is a bit better
    Eden Haiku: I tried it. I like the 'share the media' item but I could not do much with it yet. I'm mostly using the Viewer 1 still.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey, so in normal use there is not much difference of this "original" one what comes when got born here?
    Darren Islar: yes and the emerald still has a lot of features, the viewer 2.0 hasn't
    Eden Haiku: Never tried the emerald.
    Darren Islar: I hope emerald is going to come up with a viewer including the good parts of viewer 2.0
    Darren Islar: I started to use is because my voice wasn't working properly
    Darren Islar: couldn't use a headphone
    Darren Islar: but found out I can also eject people :-)
    Darren Islar: sometimes that is needed when you have a meditation place
    Darren Islar: to keep disturbing figures out
    Eden Haiku: Eject them like to throw them away?
    Darren Islar: yes
    Eden Haiku: We can also do that here can't we?
    Darren Islar: you throw them to your border
    Darren Islar: sure
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes... sometimes, you have to.
    Darren Islar: Sometimes it is necesarrily
    Eden Haiku: Grievers.
    Darren Islar: for instance
    Darren Islar: or people with a 'plate before their head' as we say in Dutch
    Eden Haiku: Alstublieft? What does it mean?
    Darren Islar: you can only see the plate, not what is behind it, so you don't notice for instance, if you're not wanted
    Eden Haiku: Oh, like they are wearing a front?
    Eden Haiku: Hypocrites?
    Darren Islar: And you don't have to say 'u' to me :-))))))
    Darren Islar: but thanks for the Dutch word
    Darren Islar: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But thank You very. Enjoyed to be here with You. <3 I need to go milking.
    Darren Islar: milking ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: brest feeding baby ;)
    Eden Haiku: Nice to se you always Cosmic. Give a kiss to the baby from me :)))
    Darren Islar: thanks for being here Cosmic
    Darren Islar: ah :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I will. Hope to see You soon again Dear Ones ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: going now. Bye
    Darren Islar: Bye
    Eden Haiku: waves
    Darren Islar: I'm going too
    Darren Islar: thanks Eden
    Eden Haiku: Bye Darren, thank you so much for sharing .
    Darren Islar: cu next time
    Eden Haiku: Very precious :)
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Eden Haiku: CU dank u!@
    Eden Haiku: Well, dear Yakuzza, it is only you and me now...
    Darren Islar: pssst: dank je is enough

    --BELL--

    Eden Haiku: Thanks for your inspiring silence Yaku. I have to leave now, so I will let you breath in and out here quietly, I will pick the log. Bye for now!

     

    And Yakuzza did come back for, when I received the log, he had left a message (and accepted my friendship, sweet Yaku!)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, bye :)
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    Originally written on 16:35, 14 Apr 2010
    ***Eden Haiku: I think they were just stuck in their minds and so was I.
    Eden Haiku: The baby pulverized that.****

    Just loved this story, Eden. Thanks!! (waving back, too) :D
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