2010.04.20 07:00 - Cat Mind

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Riddle Sideways: good morning, Listening Master
    --BELL--
    Darren Islar: Hi Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: ah, good morning Darren
    Riddle Sideways: could not see you for the cat in the way
    I have a 24" monitor.  There is a wide fat long 23" cat perfectly blocking most of my screen.
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: It is raining outside and they blame me
    Darren Islar: the cats?
    Riddle Sideways: yes, I opened the cat door and they want me to stop the rain
    Darren Islar: they looked up at you with this expression on his face like: hey, what's this?
    Riddle Sideways: exactly
    Darren Islar: *their
    Darren Islar: well I could offer them sunshine, but I'm afraid they need to get used to it :-)
    Riddle Sideways: image having small brains that transfer large misunderstood's to higher powers
    Darren Islar: right, always asking: why is this happening to me?
    Riddle Sideways: glad we don't look to higher intellects as blame and answers
    Darren Islar: and a the same time we look up at the sky
    Riddle Sideways: as if the answer comes from without
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: yet... Cats can see things we can not
    Riddle Sideways: they stare at things I can not see
    Darren Islar: hmmm, true
    Riddle Sideways: Yet... They do know that all revolves around and for them
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Cal
    Darren Islar: don't we know that either
    Darren Islar: Hi Cal
    Riddle Sideways: we are talking about how cats look at the world
    Riddle Sideways: not as some parallel to the human experience :)
    Darren Islar: the lik or you (looking at Cal's tag)
    Darren Islar: *link
    Calvino enters wearing a tag "sloooooow link"
    Riddle Sideways: humans be sooo much mo advance-d
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: they vary a lot in their seeming awareness
    Darren Islar: we don't always show it though
    Riddle Sideways: cal, are you phoning in your presence?
    Calvino Rabeni: No, this is my netbook in a thailand hotel

    Riddle Sideways wonders if dial-up modem is like phone-in prayers to g-d
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni wonders what future humans will do if / whdn the Net goes down
    Calvino Rabeni: *when
    Riddle Sideways: not so far in future... mine may go momentarily
    Riddle Sideways: have been having power problems
    Calvino Rabeni: Will they stop and look around uncomprehendingly?
    Darren Islar: we probably search deep on our attic to find a typewriter, not knowing we already threw it away
    Calvino Rabeni: At "un-augmented reality"
    Riddle Sideways: I would have to hang up the phone/browser/IM/skype and look at the flowers
    Darren Islar: And when we find one, the ink is as dry as........ (/)
    Darren Islar: my phone would still be working, but I guess there won't be much people anymore on the other side of the line
    Darren Islar: you better plant something to eat besides your flowers
    Darren Islar: just in case
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni eats a mango with his bare hands ... keyboard survives !
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Culture shock, in the snack food aisle ...
    Riddle Sideways: home-grown tomatoes
    Darren Islar: probably pretty valuable by that time
    Riddle Sideways: how would we learn to only eat what was idiginous
    Riddle Sideways: how to fit with where we are
    Riddle Sideways: instead of having it shipped in
    Riddle Sideways: I live in paradise... let's have some mangos shipped in
    Calvino Rabeni: That makes sense - I like the traditional markets here
    Calvino Rabeni: Even if the food looks back at you
    Riddle Sideways: always thinking of the next thing that would make perfection better
    Darren Islar: how do womebody know that the mango's need to be shipped in
    Calvino Rabeni: Cashews are grown nearby, if not indigenous
    Darren Islar: (can't find indigenous; what does it mean?)
    Calvino Rabeni: Peanuts ? Yes, a transplant from america I think
    Calvino Rabeni: it means, something originated in an area
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: As in, grows there naturally
    Darren Islar: ah
    Riddle Sideways: Artichokes and strawberries
    Riddle Sideways: I drive by a field of brusselsprouts as far as the eye can see
    Calvino Rabeni: Are they indigenous to - where, belgium ?
    Darren Islar: In Holland they are
    Calvino Rabeni: Where is that, RIddle?
    Darren Islar: (I don't know why they are called brusselsprouts)
    Riddle Sideways: right next to the Salinas valley
    Darren Islar: ?
    Calvino Rabeni: Question - what hav you seen, that is cultivated, that goes as far as the eye can see?
    Calvino Rabeni: California
    Darren Islar: ?
    Riddle Sideways: fields of plenty
    Calvino Rabeni: Salinas is in central California, west USA,
    Darren Islar: thans
    Riddle Sideways: corn, grapes, wheat, cotton
    Darren Islar: *thx
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, yes central california
    Calvino Rabeni: I've seen sunflowers (very dramatic) and christmass trees
    Riddle Sideways: but many a hundred acres of brusselsprouts... just boggles the mind
    Riddle Sideways: right along the coast
    Darren Islar: it's been corn for a few years down here, corn and corn
    Riddle Sideways: I once bicycled for about an hour only seeing rice
    Calvino Rabeni: The sprouts are the puzzle, though
    Riddle Sideways: Arkansas
    Riddle Sideways: and have also biked for an hour only seeing buildings :(
    Darren Islar: hahah
    Riddle Sideways: singing "where have all the flowers gone"
    Darren Islar: need to go guys

    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Calvino Rabeni: I think there's a woman named Bobbie McGee at large in that area, if you will tolerate a bit of americana
    Darren Islar: when you're coming home Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: In a week, back to USA, where I will travel randomly
    Calvino Rabeni: for a while before returning to "home base"
    Darren Islar: ok
    Riddle Sideways: ok, bye
    Darren Islar: bye
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Darren take care

    Riddle Sideways: I can stand a lot of Americana
    Riddle Sideways: a little bit country and a little bit rock-n-roll
    Calvino Rabeni: That would be the aspects of America that seem like cultural statements I guess
    Calvino Rabeni: Not things like "pringles"
    Riddle Sideways: very hard to define "America"
    Riddle Sideways: Amerika... Land of _____
    Riddle Sideways: need a new generalization
    Riddle Sideways: need to see it as simple as my cat does
    Calvino Rabeni: America is ... innovative ... idiotic .. No, better start from A.
    Calvino Rabeni: Is it a fish?
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: No. Will it chase me, or do I chase it?
    Calvino Rabeni: There are several types of cat, just as for people
    Riddle Sideways: we go through the important 20 questions
    Riddle Sideways: here is a new person...
    Calvino Rabeni: Friendly, Scaredy, Krazy, etc.
    Riddle Sideways: is it friend/foe
    Calvino Rabeni: Larger or smaller than me
    Riddle Sideways: will it cause me enlightenment

    Calvino Rabeni: Sometimes I do an end-of-day review by mentally scanning tme memories of the day
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm not sure the best way to do it.
    Calvino Rabeni: Chronologically?
    Calvino Rabeni: Sometimes I do it alphabetically
    Riddle Sideways: catagorically?
    Calvino Rabeni: I never tried doing it by size, or color
    Calvino Rabeni: RIght, there are lots of categories
    Riddle Sideways: are the BIG things of our day more important then the small details
    Calvino Rabeni: LIke a driving game for passing the time with kids
    Riddle Sideways: the ____ seen out of corner of eye
    Calvino Rabeni: Small detail - a sparrow, out of the corner of my eye, flies into a red paper lantern hanging under the eaves of a chinese shrine
    Riddle Sideways: that may be the most important thing you don't understand
    Calvino Rabeni: I like that category Riddle, "corner of the eye" because it is defined physically
    Calvino Rabeni: Another such item was a flying fish
    Riddle Sideways: my other fav catagory is SEP... "Somebody else's problem" fields
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Lucinda :)
    Calvino Rabeni: SEP - making sure a boatload of people got sorted out into various destinations and transferred over the side to other boates
    Calvino Rabeni: These are both peripheral....

    I crashed... Power went away...
    Is very nice to have the log link already saved some the remained of log is here.

    Calvino Rabeni: Riddle must have crashed
    Lucinda Lavender: good morning cal..
    Calvino Rabeni: How are you - is it a workday?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...headed out in just a minute.
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: Look out for things starting with the letter F
    Calvino Rabeni: Or things seen in the corner of your eye
    Calvino Rabeni: Or things that are "someone else's problem"
    Calvino Rabeni: A way of dropping the controlling of the recall [08:03] Calvino Rabeni: but allowing the recall
    Calvino Rabeni: Or a technique called recapitulation
    Calvino Rabeni: Used to clear the system of attachments
    Calvino Rabeni: Parents playing with a baby - speaking to it in a language I can't understand - the baby responding in "emotionese" - quite a conversation
    Calvino Rabeni: There is a large sign on the road when you enter the city after leaving the Port
    Calvino Rabeni: Since this is a very bilingual place, it says:
    Calvino Rabeni: "The People of Puket are generous and friendly to Visitors"
    Calvino Rabeni: And upon entering the grounds of the immense statue of Budda -
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: "Forgiveness will make you happy"
    Calvino Rabeni: Neither of these are advertisments
    Calvino Rabeni: I find these cultural differences quite interesting -
    Calvino Rabeni: Categories of rhetoric that may not even exist in, say, the USA
    Calvino Rabeni: Imagine a huge non-commercial sign, in lights, in Times Square:
    Calvino Rabeni: "Be Generous to the Less Fortunate"
    Calvino Rabeni: There were reminder signs about environmental awareness
    Calvino Rabeni: e.g. on the wall of a building next to a "loading zone"
    Calvino Rabeni: "For a Green environment, turn off your engine"
    Calvino Rabeni: OK, Log, it looks like Riddle is not going to un-crash
    Calvino Rabeni: In which case I'll sign off also
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