2010.05.04 07:00 - 100 POV on the shielf

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Dear scribe, I save this now just to have it logged.  Will come back to color and orchestrate.  This is perhaps where the riddle meet the road.

    Riddle Sideways: Good Morning, Oh great PaB Listener
    Riddle Sideways: morning arch
    Archmage has the white kitten on shoulder
    Riddle Sideways: ah, even tigers are cute when young/little
    Archmage Atlantis: Morning, Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: when they weigh one Kilo then can sit upon the shoulder nicely
    Archmage Atlantis: All young are cute, even alligators and pythons :)
    Riddle Sideways: when they weigh 200 pounds they are tough on shoulder
    Riddle Sideways: morning, Lucinda
    Lucinda Lavender: Morning Riddle, Archmage
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, but they still want to sit there :) - Like children continue to wish to be held as adults, even if only metaphorically......Morning, Lucinda
    Riddle Sideways: the song... "Ya musta been a beautiful baby..."
    Riddle Sideways: does not say the "look at you now.."
    Riddle Sideways: is a possitive or negitive thing
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Koya is special though, she does not change, only observes
    Lucinda Lavender: Is Koya a cat? it is hard to tell for me...
    Riddle Sideways: ah that fits my favorite (today) saying...
    Archmage Atlantis: She is a white tiger cub
    Riddle Sideways: the only thing that changes is your attitude towards it
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: smile, true the majority of the time, Riddle, quite true
    Riddle Sideways: morning, Darren
    Darren Islar: hi everyone
    Lucinda Lavender: Some how I remember that the white cats are symbolic of intuition of a powerful sort?
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, I am not certain of that, Lucinda.....but Koya's full name is interesting.....Koyaanisqatsi Marie
    Lucinda Lavender: I see, that is a movie name as well I think....the long k word...
    Archmage Atlantis: She revealed it's origin to me.......Koyaanisqatsi is a Hopi word which means "world out of balance...a state of life that calls for another way." Marie is of French origin. Variant of Mary (Latin) "star of the sea"
    Riddle Sideways: The grey cat blocking me from my keyboard, thinks she is the symbol of ALL of the most powerful way
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Darren
    Darren Islar: hi Luci, welcome to the club :-)
    Darren Islar: *welcom
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks...

    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, my RL cat runs the house...fortunately the fish and birds don't get that kind of ....? ....access I guess
    Riddle Sideways: Darren, come sit closer. I will not bring back the pool until you are sitting in it
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Darren
    Darren Islar: hi Arch
    Darren Islar: as far as I can see I'm sitting quite close to you :-)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Darren Islar: but if you insist......
    Lucinda Lavender: before it was like you were sitting on riddles shoulder

    what diff...  a cub, a tiger, a Darren sitting on a shoulder.  all weigh same in SL.
    Darren Islar waves to Riddle
    Lucinda Lavender: from my point of view
    Riddle Sideways: from your POV
    Darren Islar: oh :-)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Which brings us back to your saying, Riddle :)
    Darren Islar: didn;t mean to Riddle, shoulder still okay :-)
    Riddle Sideways: things seem to depend on POV
    Riddle Sideways: [07:01] Riddle Sideways: when they weigh one Kilo then can sit upon the shoulder nicely [07:01] Archmage Atlantis: All young are cute, even alligators and pythons :) [07:02] Riddle Sideways: when they weigh 200 pounds they are tough on shoulder
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Darren Islar: whispers: sorry

    Riddle Sideways: np, is just an illusion
    Riddle Sideways: lately have been deep nito POV and attitude towards it
    Riddle Sideways: *into
    Darren Islar: as it is an illusion that I'm sitting in a circle that can turn into a pool any moment :-)
    Lucinda Lavender: in the sense of noticing it?
    Darren Islar: and still not getting wet :-)
    I change the inner/close pillow circle back into the fountain (forgetting to take a photo) with 4 of us sitting in the water.
    Darren Islar: oh nice :-)
    Darren Islar likes the feeling of water very much
    Lucinda Lavender: this suggests a flow of sorts
    Riddle Sideways: oh ok
    Darren Islar is now trying to be serious
    Riddle Sideways: seems like we kiddies are sitting in the inflated pool in the front yard
    Archmage Atlantis: Thinks with that arrangement my koi would be running things also :) - not just my cat, Nimbus
    Lucinda Lavender: and the sun is hot...
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Darren Islar: hmmmm, sounds all very good to me
    Riddle Sideways: cats do not rule water
    Archmage Atlantis: This one does, he is a Bengal
    Riddle Sideways: that was koi
    Lucinda Lavender: Lucinda thinking she has not spent much time swimming with fish...
    Darren Islar: isn't a koi a fish?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes koi are carp
    Riddle Sideways: as a bengal is a cat
    Archmage Atlantis: Just selected over time by humans for characteristics
    Darren Islar: and which one of the two is exactly ruling the water?

    Lucinda Lavender: I am just remembering my dream...
    Riddle Sideways: ah, do tell
    Darren Islar feels indeed like a litte child again :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: Please, Lucinda, tell....and rescue me from Darren's question about animal rights :)
    Darren Islar: please tell luci
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: something about walking down stairs with children and singing the song that goes I love you, you love me...we are a happy family...
    Riddle Sideways wishes I did not think of Barney
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...me too
    Riddle Sideways: Is a great song and thought
    Darren Islar: Barney?
    Lucinda Lavender: what was nice was discovering eye contact amid the song...
    Archmage Atlantis: Purple
    Lucinda Lavender: Dinosaur
    Lucinda Lavender: on tv
    Darren Islar: Flintstones
    Darren Islar: ?
    Riddle Sideways: was kiddie show on tv
    Lucinda Lavender: newer than that...80's?
    Archmage Atlantis: With a 3 year old child's perspective on lidw
    Archmage Atlantis: *life
    Riddle Sideways: great songs and thoughts and lessons
    Darren Islar: ok
    Riddle Sideways: but that purple dinosaur was tough to take
    Lucinda Lavender: inside the suit was a person with an enthusiatic voice as I remember.
    Archmage Atlantis: I need to excuse myself.....I will definitely have to read today's log later to see where this conversation goes *grin* ...... Blessings and Namaste
    Riddle Sideways: bye arch
    Darren Islar: bye Arch (for the record I'm afraid)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, I had soo many hopes for today's chat
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Archmage who floats away on a cloud of starry cloud
    Darren Islar: meaning?
    Riddle Sideways: have been reading retreat notes and 100 day emails
    Riddle Sideways: RL am on the 34th day of counting the omat
    Darren Islar: 100 days?
    Riddle Sideways: omar
    Riddle Sideways: Pema noted that there were 100 days
    Riddle Sideways: between last and next retreat
    Darren Islar: oh, sorry, yes, those 100days
    Riddle Sideways: last year he started a 100 day meditation
    Riddle Sideways: seemed easier then, about appreciation
    Riddle Sideways: APA
    Riddle Sideways: this year it seemed harder
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
    Riddle Sideways: to place ones self into play as Being
    Lucinda Lavender: are their points of view that interrupt play?
    You'll need to clue up  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNrkeO_oN3I for the middle of this chat, listen while reading.
    Riddle Sideways: then this morning I looked at it from 12 different POV
    Darren Islar: I've been trying to understand what that might be, but can't figure it out
    Darren Islar: I get stuck at You seeing
    Riddle Sideways: one of the easy is SL
    Riddle Sideways: this POV where some "I" is behind the av
    Riddle Sideways: I am over my own shoulder
    Lucinda Lavender: can you describe a challenging one?
    Riddle Sideways: very challenging one is ... thinking me is g-d
    Riddle Sideways: how dare an I do that
    Lucinda Lavender: do some feel more true than others?
    Riddle Sideways: a little easier to think thru the "I create all this Reality"
    Riddle Sideways: Oh and then there is the whole mathimatical construct of the geometry of N dimensions
    Darren Islar is listening
    Riddle Sideways: taking the one point (me) and expanding out
    Riddle Sideways: into how many dimensions???
    Riddle Sideways: the little point (me) is self-centered (by def) and limited
    Riddle Sideways: we 3 define a plane
    Riddle Sideways: Being defines a _____
    Riddle Sideways: need to work on that ____ (word)
    Riddle Sideways: when we are all the points, planes, solids, gases
    Riddle Sideways: what music do we dance to
    Riddle Sideways: The first email's defines of play as Being were confusing
    Lucinda Lavender: Lucinda remembers the trees in 2L that appear full from one point of view and just a plane from another...
    Riddle Sideways: until the one about POV
    Riddle Sideways: yes, and how the (v.) world rezs
    Riddle Sideways: grey planes that turn into trees
    Lucinda Lavender: this seems like practice on observing
    Riddle Sideways: ovserving / seeing
    Riddle Sideways: b
    Lucinda Lavender: and perhaps it extends to the architecture of all we can expereince
    Lucinda Lavender: the seen and the unseen
    Riddle Sideways: from the simple exercise of standing in front of a beautiful painting
    Riddle Sideways: what do you seee
    Riddle Sideways: to the SL viewer in front of you
    Riddle Sideways: what do you see
    Riddle Sideways: what do you not see
    Riddle Sideways: to that world of workplace, play-place, eat-place
    Riddle Sideways: what do you see/unseen
    Lucinda Lavender: I had the image come at the beginning of this of getting out my knife to cut into Riddles Cake.
    Lucinda Lavender: To find out what was in there...
    Riddle Sideways: looking for liquid creamy center?
    Riddle Sideways: digging in for the center?
    Riddle Sideways: some riddles need you to look deeply
    Riddle Sideways: others need to be look at lightly
    Riddle Sideways: opps, talked thru bell
    Darren Islar: O warn you next time :-)
    Darren Islar: *I
    Lucinda Lavender: for me it has a red center...and what was unexpected is taste!
    Lucinda Lavender: just my POV...
    Riddle Sideways: when we bring a new POV to the same ol' life
    Riddle Sideways: we might bring those other sences too
    Riddle Sideways: taste the new POV
    Lucinda Lavender: newly enlivend
    Riddle Sideways: hear the music
    Lucinda Lavender: yes you mentioned music...
    Riddle Sideways: need to hear my co-workers words, but also really hear their song they sing
    Lucinda Lavender: takes paptience sometimes for me...
    Lucinda Lavender: oops patience
    Riddle Sideways: was reminded that not everybody is listening to the music all the time
    Darren Islar: no :-)
    Riddle Sideways: takes patience to hear your heart beat
    Riddle Sideways: with so much noise about
    Riddle Sideways: within... the music of our breathe
    Riddle Sideways: without... the fountain spray mucis
    Lucinda Lavender: it has been suggested to me that if we take our pulse...we can connect to the heart energy and deal more effortllessly with the drama around us.
    Lucinda Lavender: the heart might be the red center!
    Darren Islar: it is way of connecting to your body
    Darren Islar: or with
    Darren Islar: it puts you back in the center
    Lucinda Lavender: beating, pumping, flowing. at hte center.
    Darren Islar: let you less expand
    Darren Islar: and more, it has a rithm, that hardly changes
    Riddle Sideways: taking/bringing the comfort zone and mixing into the other/real/wrorld
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: and the 'beat' is very much alive
    Riddle Sideways: by definition
    Lucinda Lavender: can I exchange my energy with that of the persons in front of me?
    Riddle Sideways: of course
    Riddle Sideways: but blending is easier
    Lucinda Lavender: trust
    Lucinda Lavender: can be so hard in the realm of anxiety
    Riddle Sideways: we could go there, but it enough to take a different POV on the same ol'
    Lucinda Lavender: simpler
    Riddle Sideways: we can get wrapped up in emotions and previous stuff, but might try just doing new
    Darren Islar: (bell)
    Riddle Sideways: ty, but heard it that time
    Darren Islar: it depends on the kind of aniety I guess
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: no,
    Riddle Sideways: worth a try without the aniety this time
    Darren Islar: not if you're body can't let go
    Riddle Sideways: pack the bagage
    Riddle Sideways: body can stay (this time), let the mind go
    Darren Islar: or when it is that deep that you can't grab it, deny it or work with it in any way
    Darren Islar: not if you feel your heart beat
    Darren Islar: there is the kind of aniety that is close to be or not to be
    Riddle Sideways: try adjusting your POV... deep dark places are scary, but I like to sleep in the dark place
    Darren Islar: and if you can't find the dark place?
    Riddle Sideways: just look at the place you are
    Darren Islar: panicattack is very easy to deal with
    Darren Islar: nothing
    Lucinda Lavender: must go, thanks so much for this...
    Darren Islar: nothing there, it seems
    Darren Islar: bye Luci
    Riddle Sideways: need to go look at co-workers too
    Darren Islar: okay
    Darren Islar: bye Riddl
    Riddle Sideways: they do teh funniest things
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Riddle Sideways: bye and thanks
    Darren Islar: thank you too :-)
    Riddle Sideways: jump higher lucida
    Darren Islar: I heard quite a few things today :-)
    Lucinda Lavender: mee too:)
    Darren Islar: flying is to fast for me :-)

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