2010.05.06 13:00 - rebirth

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Lia :)
    Lia Rikugun: hello Fael
    Fael Illyar: Hi Loves :)
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi everyone
    Lia Rikugun: hello LovesChocolate
    Lia Rikugun: i have not met you yet :)
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: how are you two today?
    Lia Rikugun: hi how are you
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: nice to meet you Lia
    Fael Illyar: I'm good :)
    Lia Rikugun: very well thank you
    Lia Rikugun: nice to meet you too
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: i'm good too, thanks :)
    Lia Rikugun: i just come back from a meditation
    Lia Rikugun: guided by Liza
    Lia Rikugun: so this was interesting for me
    Fael Illyar: Liza?
    Lia Rikugun: yes she is also a Play as Being guardian
    Lia Rikugun: and member of the group
    Fael Illyar: Ah, Eliza?
    Lia Rikugun: LovesChocolate have you been here before?
    Lia Rikugun: nono Liza
    Fael Illyar: Ah, now I remember :)
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: yes, I've met Fael before:0 this is my 3rd time here
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: :)
    Lia Rikugun: ok so you know everything :)
    Fael Illyar beams happily.
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: i wish i knew everything lol
    Fael Illyar: Hi Pema :)
    Lia Rikugun: we did a visualization
    Lia Rikugun: and somehow I feel more stable now
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: nice!
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi Pema
    Lia Rikugun: Hello PEma!!! long time not seen
    Lia Rikugun: :D
    Pema Pera: Hi Lia, Love, Fael, Bert!
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody :-)
    Pema Pera: I guess we come in on different times, Lia?
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi Bertram
    Lia Rikugun: hello Betram
    Lia Rikugun: yes :)
    Pema Pera: good to see you here again!
    Lia Rikugun: yes definitely!
    Bertram Jacobus: no very bad :o)
    Lia Rikugun: HAHA
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Pema Pera: how bad, Bert ?
    Pema Pera: like baaaaad ?
    Bertram Jacobus: and honestly : i´m happy too again and again ...
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Mick :)
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. you got it pema ! :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hey mick :-)
    Pema Pera: hi Mick!
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi Mick
    Lia Rikugun: hello Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Guys!
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Lia Rikugun: I was just telling Fael and Loves that I went to a meditation with Liza
    Lia Rikugun: she guided the meditation
    Mickorod Renard: I had a go at haiku last night,,inspired by wools' bird
    Lia Rikugun: we did a visualization
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,was it good?
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: was it a chakra opening visualization Lia?
    Lia Rikugun: hm i am not familiar with this loves
    Lia Rikugun: walking through a forest
    Lia Rikugun: and sitting on a tree
    Lia Rikugun: trunk
    Lia Rikugun: is felt very good
    Lia Rikugun: and now i feel more stable
    Pema Pera: how nice, Lia!
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I can feel myself drawn in now
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: ah grounding in nature...nice
    Lia Rikugun: it is always fascinating how simple things can change a lot
    Mickorod Renard: the smells,,the noises
    Pema Pera: can you say more, Lia?
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: present moment awareness allows such simple things to be noticed
    Pema Pera nods
    Lia Rikugun: what I mean is how a little play with the mind or a kind of imagination can change you perception of yourself
    Lia Rikugun: or the world as for that matter
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: and no drugs were involved :)
    Lia Rikugun: yourself in the world
    Pema Pera: :)
    Lia Rikugun: exactly :)
    Mickorod Renard: nice
    Pema Pera visualizes the room in Malta, where Lia led Mick and me and others down the stairs . . ..
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Pema Pera: and Bert
    Fael Illyar: Hi Cal :)
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi Cal
    Bertram Jacobus: helllo cal ... :-)
    Lia Rikugun: hello cal
    Pema Pera: Hi Calvino!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Cal
    Lia Rikugun: we are talking about visualizations
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Love, Everyone :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I thought of that too Pema
    Lia Rikugun: and how they affect yo
    Mickorod Renard: yes, i remember mine a bit
    Pema Pera: hi Wool !
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Wool
    Fael Illyar: Hi Wool :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: hello all :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hi wool ... :-)
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: hi Wool
    Mickorod Renard: hey, I have a Haiku for you Wool, from last night
    Lia Rikugun: hello Wool
    Woolcinder Oxidor: really :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i am curious
    Mickorod Renard: A birdling , a birdling call in the forest at distance effects man, effected all
    Woolcinder Oxidor: beautiful :)
    Pema Pera: clap clap clap!!
    Mickorod Renard: thankyou
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Pema Pera loves watching the mist on the pond during the 90 secs
    Lia Rikugun: yes
    Pema Pera: pretty amazing how contemplative atmospheres carry over into SL . . . .
    Pema Pera: especially in a group
    Bertram Jacobus loves watching at all ... hm -
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: is your hand misting Cal?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i like to see the fountain sprout when the 90 sec are over
    Bertram Jacobus: especially while calming down ...
    Pema Pera: exuberant :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: a rebirth
    Bertram Jacobus: so often i have chances to watch - happy also about that ...
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: deaths and re-births occur all the time everywhere now that you mention it
    Mickorod Renard: a rebirth was like the meditation we did in Malta,,for me, as we went down Lia's steps
    Lia Rikugun: really? can you tell more
    Lia Rikugun: and i think these were still your stepps no?
    Lia Rikugun: i gave the idea, or well pema gave the idea
    Mickorod Renard: well, maybe u cant remember,,but at the bottom of the steps all fell away, and I sliped down until I poped out into another universe
    Lia Rikugun: yes the universe i remember
    Mickorod Renard: but I was a mist
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: like exiting the womb...
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,just like entering a womb
    Pema Pera: a wormhole stairway . . . .
    Mickorod Renard: not exiting
    Mickorod Renard: a wombhole
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: interesting, like the moment of conception?
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: wow
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: sry - i´ll leave already - ty and may all beings be happy please
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: bye Bert tc
    Fael Illyar: have fun Bert :)
    Pema Pera: bye Bert!
    Lia Rikugun: bye bertram nice to see you
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Bert
    Mickorod Renard: by e Bertie
    Bertram Jacobus: ty all again !
    Lia Rikugun: did this experience affect you afterwards? mick
    Lia Rikugun: if i may ask
    Mickorod Renard: only in a pondering way,,but I still remember it so it was memorable
    Calvino Rabeni: Your Forest Birdling reminds me of poem by Emerson, and of nature meditation generally, and of Pema's little bird - all these gateways / wormholes
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Lia Rikugun: :) pondering
    Pema Pera: :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: quoth the raven nevermore
    Calvino Rabeni: There was never mystery, But 'tis figured in the flowers, Was never secret history, But birds tell it in the bowers.
    Mickorod Renard: pondering over this pool, with friends
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: the interconnectedness of all...
    Mickorod Renard: nice Cal
    Pema Pera: yes
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: yes nice
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: i must be off too my friends...
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: thanks again
    Pema Pera: bye Love!
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Loves :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye Loves
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Loves
    Lia Rikugun: bye loves
    LovesChocolate Macpherson: good day to all :)
    Pema Pera: I love that Raven poem by Edgar Allan Poe, Wool . . .
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,thats nice,and moving
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes even if it had no words in it...the meter itself would haunt you for ages
    Pema Pera: And so faintly you came tapping, tapping at my chamber door, That I scarce was sure I heard you" - here I opened wide the door; Darkness there, and nothing more.
    Pema Pera: Hi Arabella!
    Mickorod Renard: I remember reading the nantucket story by him,,that stayed haunting my thoughts for a long time
    Lia Rikugun: hi arabella
    arabella Ella: Hiya Pema, everyone!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Hello Ara
    Pema Pera: We've been reminiscing a bit, Ara, about our Malta visit, with your hospitality, with Lia and Mick and also Bert who was here a little bit earlier
    Woolcinder Oxidor: a poem can be written....on the death of a flowe...but when a rose is plucked..and it refuses to bleed
    Fael Illyar: Hi Ara :)
    arabella Ella: that sounds like an interesting topic Pema :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: writing a poem is impossible
    Calvino Rabeni: ? Wool?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the flowers in emerson reminded me of this :)
    Calvino Rabeni: In that poem he spoke of nature having two harvests
    Calvino Rabeni: the second one being by virtue of conscious gathering
    Calvino Rabeni: Sort of like "look twice" in its different guises
    Calvino Rabeni: One harvest from thy field Homeward brought the oxen strong; A second crop thine acres yield, Which I gather in a song.
    Pema Pera: nice image!
    Calvino Rabeni: This is - looking beyond the looking, in a PaB like way I'd say :)
    arabella Ella: how lovely Calvino thanks for sharing :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and the memmory remain
    Calvino Rabeni: Harvest - Analogy of nourishment, but with some work required
    Mickorod Renard: nice Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks. For the log: http://www.emersoncentral.com/poems/apology.htm
    arabella Ella: and as the latin saying goes ... not sure if it is spelt correctly ... mens sana corporae sana
    arabella Ella: (healthy mind healthy body)
    Calvino Rabeni: Reminds me of its opposite - the concept of "nature deficit disorder" with its idea that mental health needs connection with the health of nature / world
    Pema Pera: (mens sana in corpore sano)
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a bit sad, that this connection should need to be gone after intentionally, as in a remedial way
    arabella Ella: (ah - i knew i would not get it right ... thanks Pema)
    Pema Pera: yes, we are very far from living in the kind of environment that evolution has prepared us for . . . .
    Mickorod Renard: can you say more Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: Well, the idea is that city dweller's health is impaired by lack of relationship to healthy natural environments
    Mickorod Renard: mm yes
    Calvino Rabeni: It's like taking air for granted, until it gets polluted, then it becomes an issue that one becomes aware of
    Pema Pera: and ten thousand years earlier, agriculture already disconnected us from our roots in nature, as hunter/gatherers
    Calvino Rabeni: In a way true - I think the anthro evidence was that agriculture was a step backward in terms of human health even then
    arabella Ella: well today there are people who have never seen a tree, who will never see an ocean or who will never enjoy clear blue skies
    Mickorod Renard: scary
    Fael Illyar: hmmh... if agriculture was a step backwards in terms of health... what was it a step forward for?
    Calvino Rabeni: @ara, sad yes, but there are still Pets, luckily :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Agriculture was a step forward for organized civilization and systematic thinking
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bird songs / mating calls also vary for the same species among those that dwell in the city and those that dwell in the rural areas
    Woolcinder Oxidor: city bird songs tend to be shorter and high pitched
    Woolcinder Oxidor: to be heard over the noise and traffic
    Pema Pera: interesting, Wool, makes sense
    Pema Pera: like city accents/dialects of humans
    Calvino Rabeni: i always thought it odd, the birds that would build nest right next to the expressway, seemingly oblivious to the din
    Calvino Rabeni: But you can't ask them... their quality of experience
    Calvino Rabeni: and they are after the road-kill for food
    Fael Illyar: Cal, I mean something immediate enough to persuade hunter gatherers to start farming.
    Calvino Rabeni: It's like "working for a living" :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I see, Fael, thanks
    Woolcinder Oxidor: for the hunter it was either a feast or famine
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps self defense against other groups
    Woolcinder Oxidor: less social security
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps fear of wild animals, etc.
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps gregariousness
    Pema Pera: hi Eliza!
    Lia Rikugun: hello eliza!
    Calvino Rabeni: Or just liking a certain place and not wanting to be eternal nomads
    arabella Ella: yes interesting question Fael ... makes one wonder why it would have happened as it did
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
    arabella Ella: Hiya Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: (apologies, just passing through) And Hello Everyone! :)))
    Woolcinder Oxidor: hello Eliza
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps reliability (of food supply) seemed more important than quality
    Pema Pera: please accept our passing greetings then, Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Thanks Much
    Calvino Rabeni: They got to store up for the winter,
    Eliza Madrigal: :::waves:::
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Goodbye
    Woolcinder Oxidor: more traditionally...it is said that the plough was invented by Adam
    arabella Ella: they became less vulnerable too as they formed communities at times within ancient fortified homesteads
    Woolcinder Oxidor: so perhaps we became hunters after we were farmers
    Mickorod Renard: I guess gatherers gathered and thought why not gather whats next to where we live,,and then thought,,yea,,lets grow some more,,save wearing our feet out,,voila
    Calvino Rabeni: It would have been more necessary as population reached the carrying capacity of the land
    Calvino Rabeni: There could have been competition over wildcrafted resources that are available to hunters and gatherers
    Calvino Rabeni: In an effort to avoid that conflict, perhaps they choose to grow their own
    Lia Rikugun: (i am sorry i am feeling very tired and will leave you already now to say hi to my bed, good night)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: studies on some australian aborigenals indicate they they go without eating for many days
    arabella Ella: were the hunters and gatherers not nomadic people too?
    Pema Pera: sleep well, Lia, happy dreams!
    Lia Rikugun: (nice to see you)
    Mickorod Renard: nite Lia
    Lia Rikugun: thank you Pema!
    arabella Ella: good nite Lia lovely to see you too :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Lia
    Mickorod Renard: sleep well
    Calvino Rabeni: I was talking to a friend who was trying to eat a more "natural" diet like our evolutionary ancestors - I pointed out it should probably include fasting for days then gorging on meat
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Calvino Rabeni: the rest of the time, just a few berries or plands
    Calvino Rabeni: The pattern of eating regularly and constantly is probably not "natural"
    arabella Ella: but then Calvino ... is the natural cycle of eating you just described the best one for our health ... and i would say not ...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the three times a day meal was invented king loius ...probably the fifth
    Mickorod Renard: I read the other day that not sleeping is more dangerous than not eating
    Calvino Rabeni: I'd suspect fasting and gorging is actually better for health
    Calvino Rabeni: but can't get myself to try it :)
    arabella Ella: not for people with blood sugar problems calvino
    arabella Ella: not for keeping a trim figure either
    Calvino Rabeni: You don't know what pattern your physiology might settle into given a new regime
    arabella Ella: i think it would really mess up the system
    Mickorod Renard: I dunno,,maybe all this available food is not doing us any good
    arabella Ella: excess is always not right
    Calvino Rabeni: The idea of diets has endless debate, doesn't it
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i feel like i should order some pizza
    arabella Ella nods
    Calvino Rabeni: An excess of abundance is what we have in the developed countries
    Calvino Rabeni: Pizza is a complete food :)
    Pema Pera: perhaps *lots of* pizza, Wool :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: And then nothng for 3 days
    Pema Pera: yes
    Fael Illyar is eating some rye bread with cheese on it and drinking some milky coffee on the side.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes lots and lots of it...with diet coke
    Calvino Rabeni: What did others eat today, just for an interesting comparison ?
    Fael Illyar: oh right, reminds me of the lack of drinkables that are not "diet" or "light" in the shops in Finland.
    arabella Ella: mmmm ... perhaps you could order a pizza for me too please?
    Fael Illyar: there's only a few of those
    Calvino Rabeni: I had grapefruit juice, kifir
    Pema Pera actually off to an early dinner in RL
    Mickorod Renard: I refuse to eat or drink Aspartame,,and cafine free stuff
    Pema Pera: see you all soon again
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Pema :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And green tea
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye pema
    Mickorod Renard: bye Pema
    arabella Ella: bye Pema
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Pema
    Calvino Rabeni: Hopefully Pema has had time for "Go" lately
    arabella Ella: i think the eating habits in europe are often different from those in the USA although it is difficult to generalise
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,we europeans use knives and forks
    Calvino Rabeni: Food and culture studies are interesting
    Woolcinder Oxidor: actually its healthier to eat using just your hands
    Fael Illyar: Japanese cuisine has the reputation of being healthier than most of the western world food
    Calvino Rabeni: I have an issue with artificial sweeteners - believe the body is not actually fooled, and tries to make up for the lack of calories by finding real carbs somewhere else
    Woolcinder Oxidor: our finger tips contain some enzymes that help in digestion
    Fael Illyar is eating the bread with just hands and mouth
    arabella Ella: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I think this has been proven recently Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: It makes sense, if you assume a basic body intelligence
    Fael Illyar: well, the body is intelligent enough to produce conscious behauviour, makes sense for other parts to be intelligent too
    Mickorod Renard: It was in my science journal recently,,I will see if I can find the article Cal
    Woolcinder Oxidor: its also healthier if two or more people eat from the same plate
    Calvino Rabeni: I ilke that Science News weekly, is that the one?
    Mickorod Renard: my dog shares mine
    arabella Ella: as long as they dont have any nasty virus?
    Mickorod Renard: yes, it is
    Fael Illyar: actually, I believe a lot of people's weird and irrational looking behauviour is actually there to hoodwink their consciousness into acting in a way that keeps them a bit more healthy
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmmm, example, Fael? That is interesting
    Mickorod Renard: Sorry Cal,,its New scientist
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes arabella not with the real nasty ones...like hepatitis
    arabella Ella: mmmmm
    Calvino Rabeni: I've not had a health problem in Thailand, in spite of all the open market and steet food
    Mickorod Renard: New Scientist Cal
    arabella Ella: are you still there now Calvino?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: your constitution would actually be stronger
    arabella Ella: oh has Fael crashed?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: no
    Calvino Rabeni: not in thai - i am in oregon
    arabella Ella: ah
    Mickorod Renard: my tum used to struggle lots in hot climates
    Mickorod Renard: especially India/Nepal,,and Egypt
    Calvino Rabeni: There are good hygeine habits and systems that back it up
    Woolcinder Oxidor: you burn less in hot weather..may be thats why
    Calvino Rabeni: Maybe the meat sat out with flies for a while, then it's put back on the charcoal grill for a short time
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,it may have more to do with the flies
    Calvino Rabeni: Toilets use water, not paper, so there's no hand contact (yecch I know, but it helps)
    Calvino Rabeni: The grill re-sterilizes it
    Woolcinder Oxidor: theres a fly in your drink Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Most things cooked to order - don't sit around gathering nasties
    Calvino Rabeni: It is labor intensive but that's ok
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni reads the tea leaves before setting aside the cup
    Mickorod Renard: I think I had aemeabic dysentry from water born bugs,,cant think how to spell it,,,what was used to rinse the veg off with
    Woolcinder Oxidor: amoebic
    Mickorod Renard: thanks
    Mickorod Renard: it looks so right when spelt correct
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the words also have a soul
    Woolcinder Oxidor: some have theirs worn off through constant use
    Woolcinder Oxidor: some have theirs still in the process of developement
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps Wool, but can one travel back in time using those words, to recover their soul?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: it should be possible..if you allow time travelling
    Calvino Rabeni: Not literally, but the tap a deep cultural memory and resonate at many levels
    Calvino Rabeni: words that is
    Calvino Rabeni: Are there words that call out to you, saying - I want to mean more than you think I do ?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: there are words that now considered derogatory were once a part of enlightened literature
    arabella Ella: there are Calvino yes ... in my language ... especially old words which are 'revived' and brought back into everyday usage
    arabella Ella: oh yes and read Chaucer for exaples o what Wool means
    Woolcinder Oxidor: some words ..having the same meanings change very little from one language to another
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, Chaucer is wonderful for that
    Woolcinder Oxidor: like mother..mater..mutter...ammi..ummm..maan
    arabella Ella: ommi in my language
    arabella Ella: or simply 'om'
    Calvino Rabeni: Mae in thai - and there's no known language preceding it and english or latin
    arabella Ella: 'omm'
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the most ancient written language that we understand was probably the egyptian heiroglyphs
    arabella Ella: i think Linear B is older Wool ... found in Crete if my memory serves me right
    Woolcinder Oxidor: probably i wasnt aware of it
    arabella Ella: maybe ... it was only deciphered in recent years ... well relatively recent
    Calvino Rabeni: A way of representing spoken sounds - is different than a way of marking ideas - or pictures - or objects
    Calvino Rabeni: All under the general name "language"
    Calvino Rabeni: The tongue itself figures most prominently in the word "language"
    arabella Ella: oh and i think Phoenician is probably older than Egypitan hieroglyphics too ... although not 100 percent certain there
    arabella Ella: well Calvino 'langue' means 'tongue' and it is the basis for the word 'language'
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and which is the oldest among those that are still spoken arabella
    arabella Ella: and even in english tongue and language could be interchangeable
    Mickorod Renard: there are several massages that can be given just by wagging your tongue,,even without words
    Calvino Rabeni: In addition to Chaucer, are there other sources that make you feel the different archeological layers?
    arabella Ella: ah ... I dont know Wool ... sorry
    Calvino Rabeni: Tongue massage?
    arabella Ella: the Italians have Boccacio who was similar to Chaucer Calvino
    Mickorod Renard: he he ,,yea,,slipped up there
    Calvino Rabeni: Slip of the tongue. :) Betrayed as it were
    Mickorod Renard: mind u,,sounds good
    Woolcinder Oxidor: google has too many answers to that question
    Calvino Rabeni: I've heard good things about Boccacio, but not found something accessible in English
    arabella Ella: it is very similar to Chaucer Calvino
    arabella Ella: saucy tales
    Calvino Rabeni: Sort of a prototypical modern novel breaking out of the pattern of liturgies?
    Calvino Rabeni: A viewpoint allowing compassionate and equal views of very different people
    Mickorod Renard: consults his dictionary
    Calvino Rabeni: Also kind of a storytelling wisdom circle, in a way
    Calvino Rabeni: What if in PaB, each person here, took time to tell a long, saucy, personal tale?
    Calvino Rabeni: Hehehe
    arabella Ella: yes ... although it is ages since I read some Boccacio
    arabella Ella: he he
    arabella Ella: some would have to be heavily censored i reckon :)
    Calvino Rabeni: afraid so
    arabella Ella: in private perhaps Calvino?
    Calvino Rabeni: I recently had a retreat in RL, in which I relished the ability to do just that
    arabella Ella: he he
    Calvino Rabeni: As did the others
    arabella Ella: how lovely
    Mickorod Renard: yea
    arabella Ella: are there chat logs?
    arabella Ella: (joking of course)
    Calvino Rabeni: and the words, went into hearts, and evaporated in the air
    Calvino Rabeni: (no chat logs, in other words)
    arabella Ella: how lovely
    arabella Ella: also an 'unburdening' in some sense?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the unbearable lightness of being
    Calvino Rabeni: Not in the sense of getting rid of a burden, but yes, there is a certain magic to "confession"
    Calvino Rabeni: It's just as powerful seemingly, to witness others, as to confess oneself
    arabella Ella: yes and it is amazing at times how the opportunity affords itself in weird and unexpected ways too
    Calvino Rabeni: Not something to delegate to the specialists (priests or therapists)
    Calvino Rabeni: A tiny act - if one is alert to the opportunity - may carry some huge significance
    Calvino Rabeni: Or the opposite I suppose
    Mickorod Renard: I have a haiku
    arabella Ella: mmmmmmm
    Mickorod Renard: words of sauce come blundering drank by hearts pounding after heat evaporating in air
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Woolcinder Oxidor: that was quite saucy indeed
    Calvino Rabeni: Very nice - also reminded me of wood-fired pizza :)
    Mickorod Renard: with more time it may have been more seductive
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm all for that :)
    Mickorod Renard: grin
    Woolcinder Oxidor: tomato is another word that changes very little over languages
    Calvino Rabeni: No wonder it belongs on pizza then
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the sauce reminded me of it
    Mickorod Renard: maybe the chilli would have fulfilled the rest
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,gotta go guys
    Mickorod Renard: c u soon
    Calvino Rabeni: When I read the tea leaves earlier - and I consider this a suitably rational activity - I also had the message to head for the hills today
    Calvino Rabeni: So off I go, thanks for the chat everyone :))
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye cal
    arabella Ella: nite mick calvino
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    arabella Ella: i must go too
    arabella Ella: g'nite Woolcinder
    arabella Ella: nice to meet you
    Woolcinder Oxidor: night arabella
    Woolcinder Oxidor: a pleasure :)
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