2010.05.13 13:00 - Appearances Considered Harmless

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The editing / comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Darren Islar: hey Cal :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi, Darren, how goes it?
    Darren Islar: I completely forgot about it, but if you're not there on the Monday session, you can come to the Thursday session
    Calvino Rabeni: Same time of day?
    Darren Islar: Wol and I were alone, but Wol couldn't get her voice going
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: but now we made another appointment tomorrow at noon slt
    Darren Islar: so if you have time, you are welcome
    Calvino Rabeni: OK, thanks Darren
    Darren Islar: I just thought about it when I got your IM
    Darren Islar: But Fox already did that too once
    Calvino Rabeni: I have a RL date for a meditation walk tomorrow, but possibly I'll be back by then
    Darren Islar: no GoC toay
    Darren Islar: okay
    Darren Islar: but sl is very vulnerable if it comes to voice
    Darren Islar: not a great thing for me
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm not sure your meaning fael and ag_003.jpg
    Calvino Rabeni: Technical breakdown interferes with clas?
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: It can't happen to often, or you loose rythm
    Darren Islar: rhythm
    Darren Islar: hey Wol
    Qt Core: hi all
    Calvino Rabeni: If it goes on for some time - a stable group - you can use Skype for backup
    Wol Euler: hello cal, darren
    Darren Islar: hey QT
    Wol Euler: hello qt
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Wol
    Darren Islar: yes but not everybody uses that
    Darren Islar: oh QT, who are you today?
    Fael Illyar: meep! :)
    Wol Euler: hello fael
    Qt Core: trek officer
    Fael Illyar: Hi Everyone :)
    Qt Core: (one of my trues nature)
    Qt Core: hi Fael
    Wol Euler: :)
    Darren Islar: hi fael
    Qt Core: truest
    Calvino Rabeni: Weather's warming up finally - mind if I slip into something more comfortable?
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Wol Euler: go for it
    Darren Islar: depends on how comfortable :-)
    Wol Euler: wow
    Wol Euler: an interesting transformation
    Calvino Rabeni: (Slow transformation occurs)
    Darren Islar: you can say that
    Fael Illyar: yes, definitely intresting transformation going on :)
    Darren Islar: hi Calvina
    Wol Euler: was that your first av apperance?
    Calvino Rabeni: Would be handy in SL to have unisex name, yes?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Darren Islar: yes
    Fael Illyar: yes, it could be handy :)
    Darren Islar: or more avatars
    Wol Euler: I recommend that to people now
    Darren Islar: depends
    Darren Islar: I try to find a good name, didn't come up with one
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Qt Core: that is if you want a real (or almost real name... i suppose qt is unisex enough, right ?)
    Calvino Rabeni: Strictly this is not an avi alt, just an outfit
    Wol Euler: but I bet it feels different, which is the essence of hte alt experience
    Calvino Rabeni: We have different ways of being different
    Qt Core: outfits... the lazy way to alts ;-)
    Fael Illyar: Yes, the way your avatar looks has a huge effect on the experience :)
    Darren Islar: maybe so QT, but easier to try
    Darren Islar: don't need to come up with a new name :-)
    Qt Core: yes, i only have (a few) outfits, no alts
    Darren Islar: And you don't even need a nes shape
    Darren Islar: *new
    Zon Quar: heya
    Wol Euler: hello zon, agatha
    Darren Islar: hi Zon, Agatha
    Qt Core: yes, i'm lazy in that dept. too
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi everybody :)
    Qt Core: hi ZOn, Agatha
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Wol Euler: nice Black Opal outfit, aggers
    Darren Islar: hi Ara
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Zon Quar: ara
    Zon Quar: agathta
    Agatha Macbeth: Close :)
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Zon Quar: sry
    Calvino Rabeni: I love what you've done with your hair, Agatha
    Qt Core: hi ara
    Agatha Macbeth: What have I done with it?
    Fael Illyar: Hi Aggers :)
    Calvino Rabeni: It sets off "batgirl in lace" nicely
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Lo Fael :)
    Fael Illyar: oh, inricate wings :)fael and ag_001.jpg
    Agatha Macbeth: Hair's no different, is it??
    Agatha Macbeth scratches her head
    arabella Ella: lovely wings Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yaeah, the wings rock
    Calvino Rabeni: No, it's been that way a while - but yesterday it really worked
    Agatha Macbeth: Yesterday?
    Agatha Macbeth: What about before?
    Fael Illyar: did you find yourself a skin?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Quite pleased actually
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, because it is spring, and I had beel looking at a lot of feathery objects (mostly grasses) on a breezy day
    Wol Euler smiles.
    arabella Ella: Hiya Mick
    Fael Illyar: I guess the details are either washed out with this sun in the fountain or then I really don't remember the previous one :)
    Fael Illyar: Hi Mick :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Is it me or do you look...different...Cal?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Mick
    Wol Euler: yeah, the light here is too bright
    Zon Quar: mick
    Wol Euler: hello mick
    Calvino Rabeni: Ask other to find that out :)
    Wol Euler: not good for pale skins
    Qt Core: hi mick
    Darren Islar: hi Mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi:)
    Zon Quar: srym gtg, bye
    Darren Islar: bye zon
    arabella Ella: bye Zon
    Wol Euler: b z
    Agatha Macbeth waves to Zon
    Calvino Rabeni: Sudden exit. Hmmm, wife or GF enters room?
    Calvino Rabeni: No, stop Calvino
    Wol Euler: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Boss then
    Agatha Macbeth doesn't have that problem
    Calvino Rabeni: Is SL "worksafe"?
    Darren Islar: you really have changed :-)
    Wol Euler: I can hardly imagein that it is
    Wol Euler: doesn't look like any spreadsheet or word doc that I've ever seen
    Bertram Jacobus: hy everybody ... :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Unless you work at IAS
    Wol Euler: hallo bert
    Agatha Macbeth: Nabend Berti
    Darren Islar: hi Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Qt Core: hi Bert
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: what were you talkin about ? may i ask ? and i would not like to have a nc ;-)
    Wol Euler grins
    Wol Euler: appearance, really
    Wol Euler: between cal and aggers
    Fael Illyar: Hi Bert :)
    Wol Euler: and qt's new clothes
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought i saw them before?
    Wol Euler: hello steve
    Bertram Jacobus: cool binng :-)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi steve
    Darren Islar: hi Steven
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello :)
    Qt Core: hi steve
    Qt Core: this outfit isn't new, i was wearing this outfit even the first come here at Pab
    Qt Core: time i
    Wol Euler: true
    Bertram Jacobus: hello steve :-9
    stevenaia Michinaga: hi, I;m still rezzing and don;t wnat to sit on someone (again)
    arabella Ella: Hiya Steve
    Darren Islar: :-)
    Darren Islar: well, you're standing in the right corner Stevve
    stevenaia Michinaga: corner of a circle?
    Wol Euler: so, cal, have you been Calvina "in public"?
    Agatha Macbeth: Squaring the circle? :)
    Darren Islar: well a circle always fits a square
    Agatha Macbeth smiles at 'Calvina'
    Wol Euler: if you hammer it hard enough
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni winks at "Aggers"
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmm Wol, where is this "public" I've been hearing rumours about?
    Darren Islar: ah, that's the Cal I know
    Fael Illyar: is this not "public"?
    Calvino Rabeni: Oh, yep?
    Wol Euler: well, "not here", not among friends who know you and are more or less reliably cool about identity change and exploration
    Calvino Rabeni: Well, I need an "ego" too :) I keep hearing about those - but don't know where to buy one
    Darren Islar: no this is a bunch of friends
    Calvino Rabeni: They sound fun :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aren't you supposed to have dropped it Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: Sure, wol, you and etc. are pretty reliably cool about all that yes
    Wol Euler: there are places where that isn't true.
    Darren Islar: and 'ego' you get or free, don't ask me why
    Calvino Rabeni: although I'm not one to grope around the limits :)
    Wol Euler grins.
    Wol Euler: oh, but the fringe-y bits are where the fun is
    Bertram Jacobus: hy ari ! ... :-)
    Mickorod Renard: or the minge-y bits?
    Calvino Rabeni: I was hoping to get an ego somewhere, that would cause more trouble and what they call "Drama" - I think the one I'm wearing is malfunctioning
    Mickorod Renard: Hi ari
    Arisia Vita: Hi all!
    arabella Ella thinks it would be interesting to go on an excursion to the fringey bits
    Wol Euler: hello ari
    Wol Euler: well ... :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Maybe just needs a pick-me-up
    Wol Euler: that could be arranged
    Darren Islar: hi ari
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Ari :)
    arabella Ella: Hiya Ari
    Mickorod Renard: I need picking up
    stevenaia Michinaga: must get an ego to drop an ego, can't drop waht you don't havee
    Agatha Macbeth: Why have you fallen over Mick?
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmmm, a pickup line?
    Darren Islar: just saw somebody change form a man in a woman
    arabella Ella: there is a lovely italian dessert for that a tiramisu
    Darren Islar: quite unexpectedly
    Agatha Macbeth gasps
    Calvino Rabeni: Normally it happens in private, even in SL
    Calvino Rabeni: But VIewer 2 opens up new vistas for behavior
    stevenaia Michinaga: in sl viewer2 there's a Male/Female toggle switch in Appearances, interestingly enough
    Wol Euler: oh, that was alwys there
    Calvino Rabeni: It's just a double-click -and Voila! new form and everything
    Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't there one in viewer 1?
    stevenaia Michinaga: really?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: well, for certain values of "always", it
    Wol Euler: it'S at least two years old
    Qt Core: more than a click a cut and paste ;-)
    Darren Islar: yes, it was
    stevenaia Michinaga: when I switched to Viewer 2 I was Ruthed, then I found the switch
    Agatha Macbeth: Lucky you
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, I like being Ruth
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That's what I said!
    stevenaia Michinaga: smile
    Agatha Macbeth grinz
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Oops
    Wol Euler: well, that was fun.
    arabella Ella: yes i need some exercise today
    Agatha Macbeth: (Post onigokko contemplation)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: Ruth is a good word
    Calvino Rabeni: And I have lots of relatives with that name
    Agatha Macbeth: Not if her second name's Less
    Wol Euler: boom boom
    Calvino Rabeni: Everybody likes that, Wol
    Wol Euler looks around in surprise.
    Mickorod Renard: I like rebbecca,,thats a nice name
    Wol Euler: "miranda"
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice Wol... pet pet
    Wol Euler pants and wags her tail
    Calvino Rabeni: "Help! I'm Lazy!"
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Lazy
    Bertram Jacobus: mh - don´t worry ? me too ?
    Bertram Jacobus: so at least we can share the problem and it gets half of weight already ?
    arabella Ella: :)
    Qt Core: too lazy to say me too
    Calvino Rabeni: True :)
    Darren Islar: going
    Calvino Rabeni: If we band together we can get even less done
    Bertram Jacobus: bye darren
    Darren Islar: nice to meet you calvina and see you all next time
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye darren
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Darren, be well :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye darren
    Arisia Vita: bye Darren
    Qt Core: bye darren
    arabella Ella: bye Darren good nite
    Calvino Rabeni: My pleasure Darren
    Qt Core: a committee, great to have nothing accomplished
    Bertram Jacobus: interesting idea cal - but wouldn´t that be a bit exhausting ? :-)
    arabella Ella: he he
    arabella Ella: a 'loose' committee
    Calvino Rabeni: Sure, totally
    Bertram Jacobus: i mean the binding thing
    Arisia Vita: wb Wol
    Fael Illyar: wb Wol :)
    arabella Ella: wb Wol
    Wol Euler: ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello again WE
    Calvino Rabeni: Hmm, banding / binding / bonding - English presents an embarrassment of ways to stick together
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello ELiza
    Arisia Vita: Hi Eliza
    Bertram Jacobus: hello eliza
    arabella Ella: Hiya Eliza
    Calvino Rabeni: Welcome, Eliza :)
    Bertram Jacobus: WE can be an abbreviation for weekend, too
    Agatha Macbeth: Liz :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :)) Wow, big group
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
    Wol Euler: hello eliza
    Qt Core: hi eliza
    Calvino Rabeni: The group now tilts yet again
    Calvino Rabeni: toward .... (?)
    Eliza Madrigal: Calvino, there is something a bit different about you... can't quite place it
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Wol Euler grins
    Fael Illyar: Ah, Hi Eliza :)
    arabella Ella smiles too
    Agatha Macbeth: He took the orange robes off
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, that's it!
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Agatha :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and mick got a tail !
    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth bows
    arabella Ella: he he
    Bertram Jacobus: pink !
    arabella Ella: and Agatha got wings too
    Calvino Rabeni: Anyone have a mirror (are they even possible in SL?)
    arabella Ella: and Fael's are lovely wings too
    Agatha Macbeth: They come with the dress :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm.. I'm looking at Mick's tail now.... don't see a pink one..
    Fael Illyar meeps happily.
    Mickorod Renard: yea,,cant be without me tail
    arabella Ella: yes there are SL mirrors i am told
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    arabella Ella: /loves to listen to meeping :)
    Bertram Jacobus: may be not rezzed yet for you eliza (?)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm, I've heard of them, scripted objects that manipulate your camera positoin :)
    Qt Core: time to go, bye all, winged or not tailed or not ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: by QT,,sleep well
    Wol Euler: buona notte, qt
    Arisia Vita: bye Qt
    Fael Illyar: have fun Qt :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Qt :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ciao QT
    Bertram Jacobus: good night qt :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Boldly Go, QT
    arabella Ella: notte Qt
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh @ Cal
    Wol Euler: :)
    Fael Illyar: That hair looks lovely on you Eliza :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Nanu nanu
    Eliza Madrigal: The wings do suit you Ag :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Thx :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, thank you Fael :))))
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm wearing wings today too... but on my shirt
    arabella Ella: i love Aga's belly button tattoo too :)
    Eliza Madrigal zooms
    Calvino Rabeni: The pendant is great too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't remember where I got the tatoo tho ;-)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Fael Illyar: I thought it came with a landmark :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, may have :)
    Mickorod Renard: mmmmm..very nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Cheese!
    Eliza Madrigal: Yikes!!
    Wol Euler: carrot?
    Bertram Jacobus: sry
    Agatha Macbeth: Jasper?
    Eliza Madrigal: Wow... if you can believe it I wasn't even taking a picture of you Bert ... zoomed out and now "WOW"!
    Fael Illyar: ooo, big eye :)
    Bertram Jacobus: nono very simple - "eyeball avatar" :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: Eye eye
    Eliza Madrigal: Oohhh eye see....
    arabella Ella: wow cool Bert
    Agatha Macbeth: Here's looking at you...
    Eliza Madrigal: pretty wild, Bert
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Agatha Macbeth would like to see bert with a monocle
    Wol Euler laughs.
    arabella Ella: can you still do onigokko or dance like that Bert?
    Eliza Madrigal: good question!
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't think he's wearing it
    Wol Euler: hallo rainer
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Rainer
    arabella Ella: Hi Rainer
    Bertram Jacobus: i wear it now - and no rainer : we talk a bit ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: take a seat with us if you like :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: we record our conversations and post them on the groups Wiki
    Bertram Jacobus: at this place, talks are recorded. because of that we type
    Bertram Jacobus: but i would think, voice shouldn´t be a problem ? look at the others ...
    Fael Illyar: Well, time for me to poof. Have fun everyone :)
    Wol Euler: 'night fael, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: (((Fael))) Nice to see you
    Agatha Macbeth: Night Fael :)
    Bertram Jacobus: have a nice poof fael
    stevenaia Michinaga: bte Fael
    Arisia Vita: I will go with Fael
    Fael Illyar: you too Eliza :)
    arabella Ella: nite Fael sweet dreams
    Arisia Vita: see you all later
    Wol Euler: bye ari, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Ari :) Nice to see you too
    arabella Ella: bye Ari
    Mickorod Renard: bye Fael
    Bertram Jacobus: nobody says anything against it as it seems rainer ? :-)
    Mickorod Renard: by ari
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go as well, bye all
    Wol Euler: bye steve, take care
    Mickorod Renard: bye steve
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Steve
    Wol Euler: say hello to the cat :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, bye Steve :) ::waves:::
    Bertram Jacobus: bye all leaving beings :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: and the rabbit? (carrot?)
    arabella Ella: bye steve
    Eliza Madrigal: okay... curiosity is getting to me
    Eliza Madrigal: onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    arabella Ella: thanks Eliza
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: The answer is yes!
    arabella Ella: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: :))) Mystery solved
    Wol Euler: if only RL were that easy
    Agatha Macbeth: My eye is running....
    Wol Euler: ha!
    Wol Euler: nice one
    Eliza Madrigal: Rainer, the item I just gave you will enable the madness
    Calvino Rabeni: I tried having a staring contest with Bertram, but -- I concede - resign - etc.
    Agatha Macbeth: Give him the lash
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah Cal
    Eliza Madrigal: And the note is about our group :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Rainer
    Wol Euler: feel free to speak to us, Rainer, we're listening
    Wol Euler: or not.
    Agatha Macbeth: Do we have a topic?
    arabella Ella: yes
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    arabella Ella: dropping egos and finding them again
    Mickorod Renard: wat is it?
    Bertram Jacobus: topic is "being" i would say
    Bertram Jacobus: for example
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep, Being
    Bertram Jacobus: that is which we investigate
    Mickorod Renard: there is a danger I think,,that we may drop one and pick up another just as silly
    Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Mick
    Bertram Jacobus: and often many various ideas meet here
    Bertram Jacobus: i think thats natural
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes we stand in the middle, sometimes very far aside
    Bertram Jacobus: of the talks
    Mickorod Renard: whats natural?
    Bertram Jacobus: to me - yes
    arabella Ella: yes in the pond too .... to cool off
    Bertram Jacobus: because it's a very nice group
    Bertram Jacobus: and it´s very liberal
    Eliza Madrigal: its the delight of SL and particularly of this group, to explore many angles & views
    Bertram Jacobus: allows all to be, not only one
    Bertram Jacobus: people listen here
    Bertram Jacobus: i like taht very much
    Bertram Jacobus: am happy and thankful
    Eliza Madrigal beams at Bert
    Wol Euler: is rainer speaking n voice perhaps?
    Mickorod Renard: no religion either,,well none of one sort
    Eliza Madrigal: yes Wol
    Bertram Jacobus: so - why don´t you to write rainer plz ? :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: + like
    Bertram Jacobus: there are many religions, some "even" are without a religion here ....
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm a catholic actually! :)
    Mickorod Renard: are you?
    Bertram Jacobus: so if it´s okay for you that we write and you speak ? - would be fine to me :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Bertram Jacobus: and i'm - follower of love ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: we may need to record your silence
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Mick
    Bertram Jacobus: that'´s ma religion ;-)
    Wol Euler: I guess we can write "Rainer Pokryshkin: ...." in the log at intervals
    Agatha Macbeth: How do you record silence?
    arabella Ella: (silence)?
    Mickorod Renard: ' '
    Agatha Macbeth: Could be
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Mickorod Renard: ' '
    Mickorod Renard: "
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, you lost me there
    arabella Ella: speak slowly Rainer please I do not understand much
    Wol Euler: I'm finding this somewhat dull.
    Wol Euler: goodnight all.
    Eliza Madrigal: A little announcement that 'ways of knowing' has moved back to Thursdays... but at 2:30SLT rather than 2 :)
    Bertram Jacobus: goodnite wol
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Wol :) Enjoy your time off
    Agatha Macbeth: By Joshua, do you mean Jesus?
    arabella Ella: nite Wol take care
    Mickorod Renard: nite Wol
    Mickorod Renard: sleep well
    Calvino Rabeni: That's honest WOL
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye, later
    Agatha Macbeth: Jesus is Yehua, yes?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeshua
    Calvino Rabeni: I will slip out to go to the WOK meeting - thanks all, be well
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, I come too...thx
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now all :) Hugs and thanks to the mystery person who claimed the log today :)
    Mickorod Renard: I have just remembered I left the chip pan on,,c u tommorow
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank you rainer, that was interesting
    arabella Ella: bye Calvino
    arabella Ella: bye Mick
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: I have to go to a meeting now. Thank you
    arabella Ella: must go too bye then!
    Agatha Macbeth: Auf wiedersehen :)
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