2010.05.15 07:00 - Meditation and landscape

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    sophia Placebo: Saturday May 15th sitting alone for a meditation session wondering why iam here: am i medititaing to relax, relax to let you vision clearer of surrounding, vision clearer makes you appreciate things better, better appreciation means better handling of issues

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi sophia

    sophia Placebo: am i meditianing inword out or outword in, reffering to self versus non self, or should i merge them togather, no out no in just one ?

    sophia Placebo: Hello Yak !


    Yakuzza Lethecus breathes in and breathes out

    Yakuzza Lethecus: nothing will ever be in the future there will always just this moment to breath in and out

    sophia Placebo chuckles

    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you use music as part of meditation ?

    sophia Placebo: no

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i still use audio to keep me focused as a kind of training wheels not to drop out of the process entirely

    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can't feel totally present and calm in total silence, i think i suffer from too much media intoxication

    sophia Placebo: music has its special effect on thinking and mood

    sophia Placebo: i want my thinking to be clear, without audio effects

    sophia Placebo giggles "yes media intoxication"

    Yakuzza Lethecus: nods i agree that is an ideal

    Yakuzza Lethecus: do you close ur eyes or look into the landscape while doing it ?

    Yakuzza Lethecus: for example when i look out of my window i see this here:

    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.flickr.com/photos/yakuzza...47941/sizes/l/

    Yakuzza Lethecus: but no sun right now

    Yakuzza Lethecus: amd many more dandelions this yeear

    sophia Placebo: beautiful

    Yakuzza Lethecus: still, i am used to it, and even to enjoy this i have to train this that is a picture i have for many years

    Yakuzza Lethecus: still always seening it in the process of everyday life not paying further attention on it

    sophia Placebo: but no niether one of them, i just forget where i am who or when, i just see the thing iam meditting in, could b siting out in garden, could be sitting on bed, could be sitting in a party hmm lunch and meditaie in how poeple laugh and interact, i could be sitting behind the desk in the clinic thinking about some patient who came


    Yakuzza Lethecus: nods i was thinking about that when they announced the SF retreat

    Yakuzza Lethecus: doing it in a city envrionment

    Yakuzza Lethecus: which doesn't seem like a retreat place

    Yakuzza Lethecus: all those retreats are in beautyful environments

    Yakuzza Lethecus: but to really practice and gain something it's supposed to be in you

    Yakuzza Lethecus: and not "in that place at that time"

    Yakuzza Lethecus: so you come home and "want back to that place"

    Yakuzza Lethecus: malta was also in a great facinating landscape

    sophia Placebo: but nature has its effct, striping you from your ego and human arrogance, showing you your place on this earth which is masked if done in city environmet

    Yakuzza Lethecus: but you come home into ur snowy home and have to appreciate that alone without the openminded ppl and environment, so it's important to have the mediation internalized


    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care sophia

    sophia Placebo: bye Yak

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