2010.05.17 07:00 - Music and Flowers

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku who was joined by Yakuzza, Bleu, Woolcinder, Zen and Sophia Sharon. 

    Music

    Flowers.jpg

    Eden Haiku: hello Yakuzza;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: morning bleu
    Eden Haiku: Good afternoon Yaku! Good morning Bleu, hello Wolcinder.
    Bleu Oleander: hi Yaku, Eden, Wool
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and wool
    Woolcinder Oxidor: hello Yaku, Bleu, Eden
    Woolcinder Oxidor: why is music as powerful as it is
    Eden Haiku: Ah! yes, why?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i was wondering myself
    Woolcinder Oxidor: after all why
    Woolcinder Oxidor: how can something so external touch and move and so
    Eden Haiku: Thinking about this beautiful music called "Affairs of the Heart"
    Eden Haiku: Could post the You Tube link but my Viewer is very unstable....I might crash...
    Eden Haiku: Music that touches us deeply must touch some inner rythm of our hearts
    Woolcinder Oxidor: is it by Marjan M
    Eden Haiku: Yes! Marjan Mozetich.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and how would one differentiate between good and bad music
    Eden Haiku: What music does touch you Wool?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: it wasn't anything as deep as the one you alluded to
    Woolcinder Oxidor: one may even label it as quite shallow
    Woolcinder Oxidor: in fact if you just listen to the lyrics...most of it is shallow and unpleasant somewhat....
    Eden Haiku: Any kind of music can be good for the soul I think..what were you thinking about?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and yet it was still moving
    Woolcinder Oxidor: lady gaga Bad Romance
    Woolcinder Oxidor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAoi_-_EVio
    Eden Haiku: I love Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Seen him in Montreal. Do you like his chanting?
    Eden Haiku: Ah, Lady Gaga is amazing. I like her too ;))
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i am not particularly fond of him....but yes some of his work is truely remarkable
    Woolcinder Oxidor: especially the earlier works
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i thought he went too commercial for his own taste

    --BELL--

    Bleu Oleander: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifruyCLcqmw listened to this at the break ..... very beautiful Eden!
    Eden Haiku: Trying to remember how these devotional songs are called...Not bhajans.. .ah yes, qawwali...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes they were initially scribed by the earlier muslim mystics in the region of the subcontinent
    Eden Haiku: I will check the links, if i poof just wait for me, I will relog... They are trying to fix it...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the lyrics use to carry a deep religious fervour....resonating with love and devotion
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, you were listening to Mozetich, isn'it great? I'm playing it on my iPod now...
    Bleu Oleander: it's beautiful!
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i have my own theory about good music
    Eden Haiku: Yes, qawwali is so deep. I remember taking a friend to his show (Ali Khan) years ago . A friend who knew nothing about Eastern music. He said something striking: it does sound somewhat like our our folk music here...
    Bleu Oleander: what's that Wool?
    Eden Haiku: listening to your theory Wool...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: good music is about predictability and unpredictability
    Woolcinder Oxidor: either it should be sp predictable that you have the whole symphony unfold infront of you after the first minute

    Flowers

    In a Moon's mood.jpg

    Bleu Oleander: did someone else see red flowers or just me?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: or it should be so unpredictable that your should bewilders at every new tone that is touched upon
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i did too...i thought it was Moon
    Eden Haiku: Was trying to use some visual unpredictability ...Bleu :)
    Bleu Oleander: hehe Eden ... startled me!
    Woolcinder Oxidor: in our poetry the poppy is known as the flower with the scar
    Woolcinder Oxidor: poppy
    Eden Haiku: Flower with the scar, why so?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and that it shows its scars to every rose bud in the garden....knowing that doing so it would be counted among the heart burnt :)
    Eden Haiku: His scar would be its purple core?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes exactly Eden
    Eden Haiku: Ah ah Bleu is putting some blue flowers on the ground I suspect...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes!!!
    Bleu Oleander: what fun!
    Woolcinder Oxidor: we had Moon show us the four seasons yesterday as well :)
    Eden Haiku: I like it so much when Moon immerse us in prairies!
    Bleu Oleander: I love it when Moon fills the pavillion with flowers
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, moon wears a full garden
    Eden Haiku: Would you like some lavender guys?
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Woolcinder Oxidor: indeed
    Eden Haiku: I like to see the avatars too ;-))
    Eden Haiku: This is Moon's lavender.
    Eden Haiku: But we were talking about unpredictability in music.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i think i can almost smell them
    Eden Haiku: I think I know what you mean Wool.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes and it can be reached either through music itself ...or the lyrics
    Eden Haiku: There is this song where the singer waits a bit before keeping on and it goes directly to your heart.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: or like beethovens turkish march
    Eden Haiku: French canadian song in French, not on You Tube I would think...

    --BELL--

    Woolcinder Oxidor: the simplest most unpredictable work i can think of
    Woolcinder Oxidor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oS7G...eature=related
    Yakuzza Lethecus: welcome zen
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
    Woolcinder Oxidor: hello Zen
    Zen Arado: Hi everybody
    Eden Haiku: Yes, was listening to it during the pause. Hello Zen...no allergies I hope?
    Bleu Oleander: we have flowers and music today!
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eden Haiku: Somehow, I do not find this unpredictable Wool, not sure what you mean then...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the combination is very difficult to achieve....modern music can be wanting for lyrics especially....but when it is the result is mind numbing
    Eden Haiku: Will I resist giving you the link to my favorite song...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i would always have difficulty following it...my mind would never guess what the next key would be
    Eden Haiku: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj-sMiyzWS0
    Woolcinder Oxidor: or wheter there be four in a row or five or six
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, you played that quiet often even in sl eden :)
    Eden Haiku: Oh I see, you see it like mathematics...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: no not like mathematics...but how the mind actually percieves it ought to be unfolding
    Eden Haiku: I know. I'm very predictable with "Psychic City".
    Eden Haiku: But isn't that different for each one of us?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes it must be ...i never considered that
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i try not to see anything as my favorite song or favorite anything anymore lately
    Bleu Oleander: why is that Yaku?
    Eden Haiku: Zen, are you planning to contribute to the Art of Being photo project?
    Bleu Oleander: I hope you all are!!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i feel i get too stuck when i do that and stop exploring
    Zen Arado: if I can think of something Eden
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i feel i have to focus more on the emotion something causes
    Bleu Oleander: I'm sure you can Zen, you are very creative
    Yakuzza Lethecus: especially in beauty, so it's not supposed to be one single song that causes an emotion to happen
    Eden Haiku: I had a glance at your gallery this morning but could not get there yet (my Viewer is unstable)...
    Bleu Oleander: that's why my "favorites" keep changing
    Woolcinder Oxidor: thats very nobel Yaku ...and very difficult to achieve as well
    Eden Haiku: I keep mine for months, even years ;-))
    Bleu Oleander: some favs are "keepers"
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it is hard even tho i need other ppl to share their favorites
    Woolcinder Oxidor: it this sense science also aims for some what the same....
    Woolcinder Oxidor: seeking the unification of all forces and finally of force with matter...
    Eden Haiku: what do you mean Wool?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: like we have so many forces that moves us..artistically i mean...the visual the verbal..the auditory and etc
    Woolcinder Oxidor: what Yaku is aiming for is to achieve a unification so he will not be dependant on either one of them
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i like the great variation of ppl around play as being which is a beautiful contrast to my real life
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes. I know I'm not into music that much. Maybe that is why, when I hear something I like, I tend to stick with it...
    Zen Arado: I tend to see photos as something to paint from unfortunately
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eden Haiku: That is funny Zen ;-) My father does that too.
    Bleu Oleander: so maybe you
    Bleu Oleander: will do a photo
    Bleu Oleander: and then do a painting from it
    Eden Haiku: @Bleu ;-)
    Zen Arado: that's what I always do:)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everyone :)
    Eden Haiku: Good morning Sophia Sharon!
    Zen Arado: Hi Sharon:)

     

    --BELL--

    Translation, friends, more songs, viewers and double-click TP

    SophiaSharon Larnia peeks around the roses to see you ^^
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Hello Sophia
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi ssl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry so late, popped in to say hi
    Eden Haiku: Just noticed Zen is wearing a great pale blue long-sleeve T'shirt and Sophia a top hat!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: grins
    Eden Haiku: No worries Sophia. Sessions are "molino de aguas",,,
    Eden Haiku: Trying to translate a French expression I found one that does not mean the same in Spanish...
    Eden Haiku: I mean we can enter and exit as we wish, that is my feeling at least.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) that would be awkward, think you are saying one things and say something else (translating)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry typos
    Zen Arado: one of favourite songs is 'JeT'aime'
    Zen Arado: was just thinking
    Zen Arado: (moi non plus)
    Eden Haiku: Ah Gainsbourg, yes...
    Zen Arado: Nathalie Guillame
    Zen Arado: sorry et Guillame
    Zen Arado: he was the first anyway
    Zen Arado: way back in the 60's
    Eden Haiku: Yes, during my Drop Day experience, I noticed how much a burden translating is .
    SophiaSharon Larnia: did you need to translate?
    Eden Haiku: No, I was writing directly in English but some translation was happening I guess because it is a second language, not my maternal one.
    Zen Arado: I notice I don't get angry so much any more
    Eden Haiku: I even dream in English sometimes.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its hard to put in words anyway^^
    Zen Arado: a friend was criticizing me for spending so much time here 'navel gazing'
    Eden Haiku: I was trying to notice what burdens I carry around, unaware of them.
    Zen Arado: she just doesn't get pab
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Zen :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe she could visit and see? :)
    Eden Haiku: But you do dig PaB right Zen ;)?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, we could show her all our best behavior: onigokko and the likes ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia tries to look serious
    Zen Arado: sometimes wonder if it is worthwhile carrying on friendships when the friend disagrees with a lot of what you do and say?
    Eden Haiku: With a top hat Sophia, you're kidding? ;-)
    Zen Arado: but it is good for us to defend ourselves sometimes too
    Zen Arado: think so Eden
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well... I have friends who are very different from me and have wondered what kept us together
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh no Eden, very very serious
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Zen Arado: she used to be a guardian Sharon:)
    Bleu Oleander: difference keeps it interesting
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah
    Woolcinder Oxidor: its beautiful Yaku ...was just listening to it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it does
    Eden Haiku: You must have amazing people skills Bleu :-)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Zen sorry
    Zen Arado: true Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: love people
    Bleu Oleander: the more different the better
    Eden Haiku: Yaku, were you been playing some music?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no he meant zen
    Eden Haiku: Ah Zen, yes...
    Zen Arado: think you are right Bleu but sometimes wonder ...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i make a lot typos today, i am on my new laptop
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i couldn't find Gillaume though...its Lara Fabians
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good for you Yaku :)

    --BELL--

    SophiaSharon Larnia: Ive often thought that each person we are friends with speak to something in us in different ways.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes Sophi and we do the same to the different friends we have
    Eden Haiku: A new laptop hey Yaku, glad for you!
    Bleu Oleander: yes, Sharon
    Zen Arado: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHiMDB19Dyc
    Eden Haiku: Yes, we are mirrors of each other.
    Eden Haiku: All of us, even strangers.
    Zen Arado: Eden was right it was Gainsbourg
    SophiaSharon Larnia: am on a slow computer and don't want to crash :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: so natural
    Zen Arado: lucky I don't know what the lyrics mean :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: thats the interesting in music ...you needn't know what they are saying
    Eden Haiku: My Viewer seems to be feeling better this morning. But I see what you mean Sophia..I skip a breath every time I open a Web page when I'm in SL now...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)) i took the chance and am listening, very mellow ^^
    Zen Arado: my computer is going great atm
    Eden Haiku: Ah Zen, you discovered the lyrics ;-)
    Zen Arado: running 2 screens with no problem
    Woolcinder Oxidor: this song is almost caressing me Zen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i can do that on my home computer, not this one LOL
    Eden Haiku: Do not translate the lyrics Zen, he will freak out!
    Zen Arado: so much better since I upgraded to win 7
    Woolcinder Oxidor: lol was it another "bad romance "
    Zen Arado: :)
    Bleu Oleander: it helps to have the latest operating system!
    Eden Haiku: Mac and SL do not go so well...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: really Woolcinder?
    Bleu Oleander: my Mac does fine
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (the Win 7)
    Eden Haiku: I started having problems only when they launched Viewer 2....
    Bleu Oleander: i have 10.6.3 running on mine
    Eden Haiku: Same here.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: explicity erotic song? thats the the text says hahah now I get it LOL
    Yakuzza Lethecus: my desktop this here isn't great for SL either, it's not made for 3d things
    Woolcinder Oxidor: you should switch to emerald...its more stable i think
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i bought a convertible netbook with touchscreen
    Zen Arado: yes emerald is the best
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i also run emerald
    Bleu Oleander: I don't seem to have any problems with the old sl viewer
    Woolcinder Oxidor: and it tells you who is peeping on you
    Eden Haiku: A friend was telling me that (suggesting I switch to Emerald). I sent a report and they are looking into it. I might switch to Emerald if it doesn't settle.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it does??
    Bleu Oleander: emerald is slow for me
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gasps
    SophiaSharon Larnia: do tell
    Eden Haiku: By the way, I'm sorry I poofed on you yesterday Bleu... I did not come back at all as it was late.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: go to emerald on the top bar and click "show look at"
    Bleu Oleander: i figured that!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yea I knew about those ^^ hahahahah
    SophiaSharon Larnia: my settings got messed up when i started to log onto sl with different computers, and couldnt remember how i got everything set in the first place
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Thank you!!
    Zen Arado: what happens ?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: try it Zen you will never see the world as you do now
    Zen Arado: what way' look at?
    Zen Arado: nothing is happening
    Bleu Oleander: need to go .... c u all later
    SophiaSharon Larnia thinks maybe now we will be on good behavior, oh poo
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
    Zen Arado: somebody look at me
    Bleu Oleander: i'll clean up my flowers
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: looking right at you, won't tell you where
    Bleu Oleander: bye
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu, have a nice day!
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Bye Bleu
    Zen Arado: getting worried now :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Bleu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i used to be able to hide my own beam! I have to find out how again
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so i can look all i want
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    Woolcinder Oxidor: do let me know when you figure that out Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods nods
    Eden Haiku: ;-)
    Zen Arado: I'm under surveillance and I don't know it :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Eden Haiku: Do you know who?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: who
    Zen Arado: no
    Eden Haiku: Excellent for paranoiacs...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: isn't everyone in the uk under surveillance ?
    Zen Arado: hope not
    Eden Haiku: Ah yes, with your web cams everywhere...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have you used double click teleport, it can freak people out
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and is convenient
    Zen Arado: no?
    Eden Haiku: What is is Sophia?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes it does...and also tp to
    Yakuzza Lethecus: tp to is great :)
    Eden Haiku: Would like to have TP in RL too...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes it is...you can always say sorry afterwards
    SophiaSharon Larnia: preferences, emerald, check box double click teleport on the top left
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes have to be careful with it tho :P
    Woolcinder Oxidor: Tp in rl has ethical problems Eden
    Eden Haiku: Ah, you are tempting me with Emerald. What does happen if you double click teleport?

     

    --BELL--

    SL friendships

    Yakuzza Lethecus: sometimes i have the feeling that contacts in sl or over the internet can be deeper then in real life since it's easier to keep in contact
    Woolcinder Oxidor: for Tpeing in rl youd have to be killed every time
    Zen Arado: and where do you tp to?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it doesnt work in stores tho, because the owner usually sets a teleport point
    Woolcinder Oxidor: you can tp to anyone in a particular sim
    Eden Haiku: You double-clicked yourself out of PaB and then in Sophia?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yup
    Woolcinder Oxidor: no you can only tp to some one in the same sim
    Eden Haiku: It was not freaking me out. :-)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the sim you are in
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it wasnt? oh drats
    Woolcinder Oxidor: btw you have a list of everyone in the sim as well :)
    Eden Haiku: Too bad :-))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eden Haiku: Yakuzza, what you said about SL friends is interesting.
    Eden Haiku: How it is easier to keep in touch but then, if you leave for a while..
    Eden Haiku: As I did while I travelled in India lately, then you loose most of them...
    Zen Arado: thinking I see some in SL much more often than in RL yes
    Woolcinder Oxidor: its deeper for other reasons too....you are less veiled here about who you really are
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have a 2 contacts i knew through sl and talked to them on skype until 2 am in the morning a couple of times
    Zen Arado: not sure about that Wool
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i will never meet them, i guess but we talk about anything
    Zen Arado: if you could see me you be surprised :)
    Eden Haiku: Less veiled even though we are veiled with virtual identities but that is very true Wool.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: that also makes us more vulnerable here
    Zen Arado: is it ok if you never meet the people in RL?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i agree, as least on a 'story' level, i can tell much with body language
    SophiaSharon Larnia: as anyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, that gives me more security and i guess more for the other persons as well
    Zen Arado: but maybe our physical body also veils us
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I miss the body language and the tones of voice here. Except on Yaku's happy hour! I love hearing your voices Zen and Yaku and Qt and Bleu was there once too.
    Zen Arado: we do so much judging from physical appearance
    Woolcinder Oxidor: if you were talking about an emotional relationship Zen ..that its probably better you didn't meet
    Zen Arado: ah...but I did....
    Zen Arado: and not the only one...
    Eden Haiku: Oh, and was it an happy experience Zen?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: reality usually doesnt live very well to fantasy
    Zen Arado: it was for a while...
    Zen Arado: perhaps falling in love is fantasy too
    SophiaSharon Larnia bites her lip to hold her tongue lol
    Eden Haiku: Sometimes it is...Sometimes it is not :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sadly as that might sound i believe that love is fantasy
    Woolcinder Oxidor: it is if it happens here...for numerous reasons
    Zen Arado: well lots of dreams involved
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the emotion is real
    Eden Haiku: Ah here, yes, too many dimensions missing, sure :-)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: when you meet some one here ..you cant see them feel them smell them etc
    Zen Arado: you build up a dream around a person?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: we construct reality in our minds so even reality is fantasy in some way
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Eden Haiku: No pheromones here yet :-)
    Zen Arado: true Yaku
    Woolcinder Oxidor: theres a big vacuum..mind abhors vacuum ..so it starts filling in the picture itself
    Zen Arado: yes maybe
    Woolcinder Oxidor: mind
    Zen Arado: vacuum formed by desires
    Eden Haiku: Shall we contemplate the void in our next break?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: so the person in front of you is more a make up of your own perception than who they really are
    Zen Arado: up to a point
    Woolcinder Oxidor: how is it possible now..now to love or hate some one you painted yourself in its superlative degree only :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: ...not to
    Zen Arado: couldn't you have a worse impression of someone than they really are too?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes exactly my point
    Woolcinder Oxidor: it works both ways ...in the extreme
    Eden Haiku: I trust my first impressions a lot, even in SL.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but the worse impression is ur true impression zen
    Zen Arado: SL enables us to hide parts of ourselves too
    Eden Haiku: Yes, as well as RL Zen.
    Zen Arado: not sure about that Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: there is no universal truth when it comes to human beings
    Eden Haiku: There are things I share only with my closest friends.
    Zen Arado: no or anything :)
    Zen Arado: would you say you have close friends in SL Eden?
    Eden Haiku: Yes.
    Zen Arado: or only in RL

    --BELL--

    Eden Haiku: I thought you meant RL.
    Yakuzza Lethecus will have dinner now
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care everyone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lady and gentlemen, i need to go back to RL for a while
    Zen Arado: you can have deep emotional involvements in SL
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Yaku
    Zen Arado: bye Yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: take care all :))
    Woolcinder Oxidor: take care Sophia
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the communication in sl is real
    Eden Haiku: I feel close to some SL friends but they are quite recent as I rezzed in last September. It takes time to become close friends.
    Eden Haiku: Take care Sophia!
    Zen Arado: ok Eden
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it's just RL without physical
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and more time to connect
    Eden Haiku: Bye Yaku...
    Zen Arado: I better go make my dinner too...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: bye Zen
    Eden Haiku: Bye Zen, enjoy your dinner!
    Zen Arado: will double click see what happens...

    Winding down

    Eden Haiku: Ah fast exit...that is what it is. Sophia was hidden behind a blue card...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: a blue card?
    Eden Haiku: These notes from groups on top right of screen (at least on Viewer 1)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: ah yes they can be nuisance some times
    Woolcinder Oxidor: especially if you are a vampire
    Eden Haiku: Should clean up my groups. I have 25 and I don't have time to go...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes i cant myself...mostly because of the time zones
    Woolcinder Oxidor: all good things happen when i am asleep or at work
    Eden Haiku: Yes, it is about 9 o'clock night time in Pakistan I would think?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes it is....though i am in Saudi Arabia right now
    Woolcinder Oxidor: working here for a few years
    Eden Haiku: Yes Second Life is very much California oriented :-)
    Eden Haiku: Ah, I see.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes theres an 11 hours lag to everything :)
    Eden Haiku: Here, it is only 3 hours later, so it is not too bad.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes 3 hours would be nothing..our body clock itself has 23 hours only
    Woolcinder Oxidor: we usually miss one hour anyway
    Eden Haiku: Our body clock is 23 hours only?
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes ..the studies suggest that...
    Woolcinder Oxidor: when asked to keep track of time...without a watch we are usually erring by an hour
    Woolcinder Oxidor: also if left without a watch the body prefers a 12 hour sleep and wakeup cycle
    Eden Haiku: Ah I see...It is not my experience though.
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i would prefer a 24 hours sleep...and no work at all :)
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i thing it was about time we moved to lesser weekdays ...and larger weekends

    --BELL--

    Woolcinder Oxidor: we work too much
    Woolcinder Oxidor: i think it will be a long time when i will see you guys here again
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the next few weeaks look terribly busy :)
    Eden Haiku: I have some real life flowers to transplant this morning. I will pick up my lavender and poppies before I go. It was nice talking to you Woolcinder. Have a good rest...Oh sorry to hear that. Well, take care. And come back when you can !
    Woolcinder Oxidor: yes Eden its always nice being here ...take care
    Eden Haiku: Take care Wool! Hope to see you soon, after the hard work!
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