2010.06.01 13:00 - PaB Evolution and Noobs galore

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are hers.

    After my complaints last week that my sessions are sparsely attended, I should have known Providence would be flapping his big ears with a vengeance. Next time, I'll keep my big mouth shut....

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    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Liz :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Aggie :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Or should I say konnichi wa :p
    Eliza Madrigal: >hehe< giggles girlishly "Konnichi wa"
    Agatha Macbeth: That is a lovely kimono
    Eliza Madrigal: Obviously I've been to the 100 free kimonos shop
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you. And I love your outfit.... are we singing Caberet again today?
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Any resemblance to Liza Minelli is entirely coincidental :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles... tre chic
    Agatha Macbeth: How are you?
    Eliza Madrigal: A little weird today... haven't been able to settle into things too well... buzzing around
    Eliza Madrigal: You?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, I get that way too sometimes
    Agatha Macbeth: Usually too much to do and not enough time to do it
    Agatha Macbeth: We lost the dream workshop tonight then?
    Eliza Madrigal: Yup, no workshop today. You may have a crowd :)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Is Max travelling then?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, for the next few weeks I think
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, but then again, she will be there next week June 8th... hm...
    Eliza Madrigal: but not Sundays for two more weeks I think. Hm... haha... actually not quite sure it seems :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I see
    Agatha Macbeth: She must be quite busy
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed. She seems scheduled to the minute sometimes
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Gaya :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Druth :)
    druth Vlodovic: hi
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Druth, have you been here before?
    druth Vlodovic: yes, a few times
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah good :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That makes my job a lot easier :D
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat an easy job!
    druth Vlodovic: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So what's on your mind today Ag? any topics?
    Fael Innovia: Hi Everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Fael :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, I have been wondering about PaB, where it might be going...
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Fael :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Fael :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting question Ag! In what sense?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, it's been going for two years now, I was wondering how it will evolve
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mick :)

    Enter Noob #1

    Tari Garrigus: >:O Hola !!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Mick!
    Agatha Macbeth: You're sitting on Gaya
    Mickorod Renard: hi
    Eliza Madrigal: I suppose that has a lot to do with the wishes and interests of the community...
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tari, Hola
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Tari
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Tari :)
    Agatha Macbeth waves to Tari
    Tari Garrigus: lol
    Fael Innovia: Hello Tari :)
    Mickorod Renard: Tari is into science
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you have thoughts on how you might like to see it evolve vs. not like?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you know each other then?
    Mickorod Renard: not realy
    Agatha Macbeth: Not sure to be honest Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: Evolution is science :) So 'the evolution of PaB' fits if we like... hehe
    Mickorod Renard: watz that Eliza?
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Agatha Macbeth: Well, I have been wondering about PaB, where it might be going... ) Eliza Madrigal: Interesting question Ag! In what sense? . Agatha Macbeth: Well, it's been going for two years now, I was wondering how it will evolve
    Mickorod Renard: come sit with us Tari
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, please Tari. Welcome :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I hear an echo ;-)
    druth Vlodovic: a starting point might be to define what it is now, and perhaps what it has been in the past
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: who's gonna do the intro?
    Agatha Macbeth: Have you been here before Tari?
    Eliza Madrigal: (at the echo)
    Tari Garrigus: no, never


    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I'll drop a couple of notecards on you to explain us then :)
    Fael Innovia: Hi Pila :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :))
    Mickorod Renard: heyyy,,Pila
    Pila Mulligan: greetings
    Fael Innovia: Hi Wol :)
    Tari Garrigus: lol
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
    Tari Garrigus: i m reading. lol
    Wol Euler: sorry I'm late
    Tari Garrigus: >:O Hola !!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Pila, Wol
    Mickorod Renard: no rush tari
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Wol :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pila and Wol :) brb
    Mickorod Renard: is the fountain out of sync?
    Wol Euler: wow, aggers, what a great look.
    Wol Euler grins broadly
    Agatha Macbeth: Thx Wol :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Trying to multitask atm
    Tari Garrigus: ui, sorry i have to go now
    Mickorod Renard: do we need to tell about the log on the wiki?
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you Tari, come again
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, sorry to hear that
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,bye tari
    Wol Euler: yes, mick, we always need to say that.
    Wol Euler: it's in the TOS
    Agatha Macbeth: Via con dios :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Wol Euler: bye tari, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: I told her already Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: in IM
    Mickorod Renard: I think we been too slow for Tari
    Mickorod Renard: thanks Ags
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, can't win em all
    Eliza Madrigal: Tari was too quick for us
    Gaya Ethaniel: [back]
    Mickorod Renard: hi
    Wol Euler: wb and hello gaya
    Eliza Madrigal: or she may have seen the glue on the cushion... hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Didn't notice you were away Gaya, sorry :p
    Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully things have settled down a bit now
    Mickorod Renard: is that glue?
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry Liz, where were we?
    Mickorod Renard: I always thought it was more sinister
    Agatha Macbeth: Behave Mick ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, how PaB may be evolving, how we all might see that...
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, yes
    druth Vlodovic: g2g,
    Eliza Madrigal: Druth suggested:druth Vlodovic: a starting point might be to define what it is now, and perhaps what it has been in the past
    druth Vlodovic: have fun guys
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Druth
    Mickorod Renard: bye druth
    Gaya Ethaniel: druth pointed out something useful if I remember.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bye druth :)
    Eliza Madrigal: which is a great guide even if druth must leave :)))
    Wol Euler: bye druth
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye druth
    Agatha Macbeth: (I know that dress from somewhere...)
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be scare away the noobs night
    Mickorod Renard: I think its been very enlightening,,pab,,not sayin I am enlightened,,thats too sensational
    Gaya Ethaniel: lol
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Wol Euler: some of the difficulty is that there seem to be two PaBs
    Fael Innovia: two?
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Wol Euler: the group that meets here to talk about food and onigokko
    Mickorod Renard: I only been to this one
    Agatha Macbeth: Zwei PaBen?
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Fael Innovia giggles.
    Wol Euler: and the core of theoretical meditators who are trying to develop a new system
    Mickorod Renard: I wud like it to be a bit more formal
    Mickorod Renard: exploritory
    Fael Innovia wonders which group she belongs to.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I think I know which one I belong to [grins]
    Eliza Madrigal: I like to have both going at the same time, though admit its a tricky balance...
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,that sounds good
    Agatha Macbeth: It can be a difficult balance sometimes
    Fael Innovia: but what's a theoretical meditator?
    Pila Mulligan: however, at the foundation, fellowship is the bond that holds any informal group together
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, agree Pila
    Agatha Macbeth: True Pila, yes
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Wol Euler: somebody who thinks about it and tries to innovate, rather than someone who found a way to sit and does so
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Eliza Madrigal: interesting idea Wol... hadn't really thought about that
    Eliza Madrigal: I like both ways there, too
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Fael Innovia: yep! :)
    Mickorod Renard: I like to think we can be informal but engage in something formal
    Agatha Macbeth is not really an innovator, more of a 'Go with the flow-er'
    Gaya Ethaniel: Informal is formal; formal is informal.
    Fael Innovia would shout onigokko, but it's impolite to do so without wearing the thing and she doesn't have it.
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed, Mick... but 'do' we?
    Wol Euler: yes, it goes both ways. The theme sessions are very formal and (for want of a word) theoretical
    Gaya Ethaniel: It's all in the mind ... :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Wol Euler: true, but that doesn't make them less real
    Eliza Madrigal: is this pool our collective mind? hehe
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think the division is too narrow imo.
    Wol Euler: propose an alternative? :)
    Mickorod Renard: even though in my session,,I am silly,,I do like to introduce something in keeping eventually
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Silly Mick? No :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Even within 'formal' theme sessions, one finds fun and spontaneity that some may easily associate with 'informal' sessions.
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: How can a guy with a pink tail be silly?
    Fael Innovia: oh well... I can do this :)

    Fael, ever inspired (just like her namesake) stands up and begins running round the fountain!

    Wol Euler: o.O
    Eliza Madrigal: I like to come away with a sense of at least having touched on something that seems... hm.. nourishing... but sometimes that's just onigokko so who can define
    Eliza Madrigal: wow Fael, neat!!
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I am with you Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, a sponsored run round the fountain
    Gaya Ethaniel: An outsider may see onigokko as a PaB 'ritual'! :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The Bieup marathon?
    Pila Mulligan: skilful Fael :)
    Agatha Macbeth: And cute
    Gaya Ethaniel: From where does one see this division of formal/informal & those who do/thinks.
    Gaya Ethaniel: What kind of perspectives are involved?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, might there not be so much as a division but a question 'out there' in a way?


    Gaya Ethaniel: For one thing, I can't see myself either in one group or another as you mentioned Wol ...
    Fael Innovia: hmmh... a ritual instead of a shared joke :)
    Fael Innovia: I wonder if there's a difference really :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I will say that PaB has been unique in that there are 'explorations'... and I think engaging in those has a bonding element, too
    Mickorod Renard: might I say something?
    Fael Innovia: of course :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Shoot
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,
    Wol Euler bats you with a cushion. Of course
    Eliza Madrigal: yes please!
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I went to a lovely garden today,,just up road from me
    Mickorod Renard: and while I was looking around
    Agatha Macbeth: In RL?
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok
    Mickorod Renard: I saw all the diferent sorts of flowers
    Mickorod Renard: and noticed how they were like bursts of fireworks
    Eliza Madrigal smiles, nice image
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Mickorod Renard: and this meant I cud take enjoyement from each bloom,,exploding
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Mickorod Renard: like a star burst or whatever
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Agatha Macbeth: I love flowers too
    Mickorod Renard: this is what pab is to me
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.
    Pila Mulligan: each one with a purpose for its attraction too
    Mickorod Renard: getting more outa life
    Eliza Madrigal: That's lovely, Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Nicely put Mick :)
    Wol Euler nods.
    Mickorod Renard: thank you
    Agatha Macbeth: No, thank you :)
    Fael Innovia: Lovely :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I have to go but I want to say that openness is important for PaB, allowing each unique individuals to come together in ever changing flux.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Good night everyone :)
    Pila Mulligan: bye Gaya
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Gaya, good to see you :)
    Fael Innovia: Good night Gaya, Sweet dreams :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye for now Gaya :)
    Wol Euler: bye gaya, take care
    Mickorod Renard: thats nice too gaya
    Mickorod Renard: take care
    Eliza Madrigal: open flowers :)

    I notice the water and the blue cushions have mysteriously turned red...

    Agatha Macbeth: Has someone cut themself?
    Mickorod Renard: I was thinking about it
    Mickorod Renard: grin
    Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be a lot of red about...
    Fael Innovia: Hello Alfred :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi ALfred :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Alf
    Pila Mulligan: hi Alf
    Mickorod Renard: ayup Alf
    Wol Euler: oi?
    Alfred Kelberry: good to see you all :)
    Eliza Madrigal: You too
    Alfred Kelberry: do you mind me inviting one guy to this session?
    Eliza Madrigal: we usually come back to this idea of 'no formulas' which I think is important... but so is the 'feeling' that people get when they wonder about the direction, etc
    Agatha Macbeth: As long as it's only one ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Alfred, please do
    Mickorod Renard: has he had his inoculations?
    Alfred Kelberry: he's into sufism :)
    Eliza Madrigal: neat
    Agatha Macbeth: Great
    Eliza Madrigal: that's on the pab description.. hehe

    Enter Noob #2

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zaldaan
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, please, welcome - zaldaan :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome :))
    Wol Euler: hello zaldaan, I'm glad that you know how to sit :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Hello, thank you please. :)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Zalden
    Alfred Kelberry: wol :P
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol? I'm glad you know how to type. :)
    Wol Euler: some people don't :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: hehe
    Pila Mulligan: assalamu alaikum
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Aleikumu salaam
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zaldaan
    Fael Innovia: Hello Zaldaan :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Okay, so pardon my appearance...
    Agatha Macbeth: Are you new here Zal?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I am new to this area/group, except I recognize a few of you of course.
    Alfred Kelberry stands next to woly
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol, maybe Fael but I'm not sure. Alfred.
    Wol Euler grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Ok, I'll give you a couple of notecards to explain us a bit more
    Wol Euler: yes, we've met before, I remember your name
    Alfred Kelberry: maybe some kira event
    Wol Euler: have you been *here* before, Zaldaan?
    Fael Innovia: me?


    Agatha Macbeth: We also record conversations here and publish them on a Wiki. Is it ok with you for your comments to be published?
    Alfred Kelberry: so, you can't say shit or anything :)
    Mickorod Renard: I dont suppose you know about random matrix theory by any chance?
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Agatha Macbeth: (Let the guy answer)
    Wol Euler says "shit" all the time.
    Eliza Madrigal: it helps the flowers
    Pila Mulligan: saying shit during the 90 seconds is okay
    Mickorod Renard: stop sayin shit,,its not nice
    Alfred Kelberry: well, you're on exception list, wol :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Only if you promise me that my comments are guided by oneness and love.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh they will be :)
    Wol Euler: only you can answer that, zaldaan
    Alfred Kelberry: sure thing, zal
    Mickorod Renard: crosses fingers under the table
    Agatha Macbeth: Well they will by me anyway
    Alfred Kelberry: mick :P
    Agatha Macbeth: And I'm one doing the editing!
    Pila Mulligan: most importantly, Zaldaan, do you have any Nasruddin jokes?
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal: well this is a fine first impression we are making!
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I know several
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The only Sufi stuff I know is Idries Shah
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I'm not sure if they're jokes they might be real.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh hi Arch
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Arch
    Wol Euler: hello arch
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Arch
    Zaldaan Sirnah: http://articles.sufism.info/en/sufism.htm
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi
    Agatha Macbeth: Thank you :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I don't like the Nasruddin tale that's in my head for this time, what should I do?
    Mickorod Renard: mmm thankyou,,but I suspect that was a serious link
    Fael Innovia: Hi Arch :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: It's the one about the house he sold to someone, for too little money, when he was desperate, but he had a condition on the sale where one nail in the wall belonged to him, and he could do anything he wanted with it.
    Agatha Macbeth: Kitchen calls...
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Yes, the articles on Sufism page is not a Nasruddin joke :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Because a tale (story) is told, does not mean it is a way to be
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I drew a Nasruddin illustration (comic if you will)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Nasruddin was sitting on one side of a river.. a man on the other side called out to him, "how do I get to the other side!?"
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, nice... an artist then? interesting
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Nasruddin: You are on the other side!
    Mickorod Renard: he he he
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Mickorod Renard: nice one
    Wol Euler: :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: unfortunately my draft version made it into the newsletter.. :/
    Eliza Madrigal: Well then it must have been good
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Alfred Kelberry: i'd like to see it
    Eliza Madrigal: we can be nitpicky with our own things sometimes... but someone else comes along and says "wow"
    Agatha Macbeth: Back. Like the bit about the river...
    Alfred Kelberry: aga, pancakes? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Eh?
    Wol Euler: wb
    Eliza Madrigal: soufle?
    Wol Euler: don't forget to share with your friends
    Agatha Macbeth: Bit late for that Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: aga, are you making pancakes?
    Agatha Macbeth: Er..no
    Eliza Madrigal: baked alaska?
    Agatha Macbeth: Why would I be doing that?
    Alfred Kelberry: ask woly, pancakes are never too late
    Wol Euler: true
    Mickorod Renard: I am expecting a treakle pudding in a moment
    Wol Euler: especially if blueberry
    Archmage Atlantis: Things and stories can be well spoken and designed, without being the way
    Mickorod Renard: treacle
    Agatha Macbeth: Well she's strange :p
    Wol Euler: also true
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, that sounds yummy
    Wol Euler: hurtful but true

    (Aww I didn't mean it! :(     *HUGS*)

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh Mick, haha... well today I won't be able to stay around to listen to you eat :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (Comme moi)
    Mickorod Renard: owwww
    Mickorod Renard: I like to torment
    Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, maybe you like to challenge :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now guys, thanks for the cat :)
    Eliza Madrigal: er... chat
    Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye Ekiza
    Alfred Kelberry: give the cat back! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww, bye for now Liz :)
    Mickorod Renard: Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal throws the cat to alfred
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, eliza :)
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Wol Euler: we'll call him schroedinger
    Alfred Kelberry: i'll keep it in a box
    Pila Mulligan: bye ELiza
    Wol Euler: snap
    Alfred Kelberry: woly :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Leave that poor cat alone
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I don't have the image nor the newsletter onhand, sorry, Alfred. It's on an older HD sitting alone in the other room.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Yaku :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, leave her/him/it alone
    Alfred Kelberry: zal, oh... all alone and dusty?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi everyone
    Agatha Macbeth: Springfield
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Yaku
    Pila Mulligan: hi Yak
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes he is free
    Archmage Atlantis: has free will, as they say
    Alfred Kelberry: once being fresh out of keyboard read by hundreds now sitting alone all forgotten...
    Wol Euler: hello yaku
    Alfred Kelberry: hi, yaku
    Alfred Kelberry notices aga sits closer to him


    Fael Innovia: Hi Yaku :)
    Mickorod Renard: you know,,we could have symetry here
    Agatha Macbeth: Let's not

    Enter Noob #3

    Fael Innovia: Hello Quiver :)
    Mickorod Renard: hi quiver
    Archmage Atlantis: The thing I feel in my heart is we are all here as individuals
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver,you're sitting awfully close to be my wife.
    Alfred Kelberry: zal, do you have more stories? i liked the river one.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Arch, I agree
    Wol Euler: hello quiver
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Archmage, how do you mean?
    Fael Innovia: What else could we be here as?
    Quiver Quintessa: Hi :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Quiver have you been here before?
    Pila Mulligan slips away ... bye everyone :)
    Fael Innovia: Have fun ... oh too late
    Agatha Macbeth waves to Pila
    Alfred Kelberry: aww... pila left
    Wol Euler: bye pila
    Quiver Quintessa: No..
    Agatha Macbeth: No, Pila right
    Alfred Kelberry: :P
    Fael Innovia giggles.
    Archmage Atlantis: I heard the question Zal
    Alfred Kelberry: anyway, aga, since when do you smoke?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Wol! Quiver reminded me that we met in a sandbox!
    Agatha Macbeth: Since me pants caught fire

    'Do you smoke after sex?' 'I dunno baby, I never looked...' (Austin Powers).  I digress....

    Wol Euler: aaaaaaah!
    Wol Euler: yes, that's right.
    Wol Euler: many moons ago now
    Wol Euler grins
    Mickorod Renard: hot pants/
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Quiver Quintessa: Yes, when I was a noob!
    Wol Euler: funny how the wheels turn around...
    Archmage Atlantis: Lunar calendars
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Small grid afterall
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Mickorod Renard: treacle pud is nice
    Alfred Kelberry: didn't know wol is still playing in sand
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Alfred, I'm not very practiced in stories, but ideas and concepts and solutions and lots of experience thinking and contemplating...
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver crashed, she's on her way back.
    Alfred Kelberry: zal, you did well with the river :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, ok
    Mickorod Renard: I need to leave,,,,,c u soon guys
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Mick
    Wol Euler: bye soon mick
    Alfred Kelberry: bye, micky
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Quiver
    Zaldaan Sirnah: well I read a bunch of Nasruddin ones, with whom I was already familiar, until I found one suitable for the single-frame comic.
    Zaldaan Sirnah: most of them are fun and interesting and bizarre, but not necessarily good Sufi teachings
    Alfred Kelberry: tell us one more please :)
    Wol Euler: I have one :)
    Alfred Kelberry: what? sufi story, wol?
    Wol Euler: Nasruddin story
    Alfred Kelberry: go ahead!
    Alfred Kelberry gets comfy and listens
    Wol Euler: Mullah Nasruddin is sitting in the cafe one afternoon, drinking coffee and playing chess, as one does.
    Wol Euler: Down the street comes a funeral procession
    Wol Euler: as it passe the cafe, Nasruddin stands up, folds his hands in prayer, then bows deeply, his head nearly touching the table
    Wol Euler: "A fine gesture, worthy of a mullah!" say his friends.
    Wol Euler: As Nasruddin takes his seat again, he says "It's the least a man can do for his wife."
    Alfred Kelberry: em...
    Agatha Macbeth: It's the way she tells them...
    Wol Euler listens to the crickets. Ah well
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I read a variation on that either online or in a sick joke book, far from a Nasruddin tale :) Are you sure it's Nasruddin?
    Wol Euler: mmhm
    Alfred Kelberry: so, do we laugh now or something? :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: wow
    Wol Euler: do whatever you think appropriate, alf.
    Agatha Macbeth: Who is this Nasruddin bloke as a matter of interest?
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you, wol :)
    Alfred Kelberry: it was a good story
    Archmage Atlantis: And a sad one


    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Alfred Kelberry: crazy people :P
    Wol Euler: he's an apocryphal figure, aggers, a kind of mysical teacher stroke holy fool :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Fael Innovia smiles 'Would someone give me a copy of that so I can join the fun?'
    Quiver Quintessa: Lol
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Alfred Kelberry: em, i was going to say how i like these silence breaks
    Alfred Kelberry: but nevermind...
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Go on then
    Fael Innovia: thank you :)
    Fael Innovia: onigokko
    Alfred Kelberry: ha!
    Fael Innovia: stop
    Archmage Atlantis: The first time I witnessed onikko, I knew, it could be false
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.
    Fael Innovia: what could be false?
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a false onikko
    Fael Innovia: what's the falseness?
    Quiver Quintessa: I love how we all sit serenely
    Archmage Atlantis: A rrunning from what one is
    Agatha Macbeth: Pointless then...
    Archmage Atlantis: Not pointless
    Alfred Kelberry: i think i should make silence breaks in my rl meetings too
    Archmage Atlantis: Just running
    Alfred Kelberry: not sure about onigokko, though :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I was wrong in saying false
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah but you can't run from what you are Arch :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Agatha, quite true
    Quiver Quintessa: Before I crashed I was going to say it was all Wol's fault
    Fael Innovia: you can run from knowing what it is though
    Agatha Macbeth nods to Fael
    Wol Euler: true
    Agatha Macbeth: It usually is Quiver
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Love, that one can do
    Quiver Quintessa: lol
    Quiver Quintessa: She introduced me to Freestyle
    Wol Euler: moi?
    Quiver Quintessa: and off I went!
    Wol Euler grins
    Quiver Quintessa: Yes!
    Agatha Macbeth: Freestyle what?
    Fael Innovia meeps happily to her left.
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I misinterpretted the break as something we all try to implement throughout the day
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Ari
    Arisia Vita: Hi all
    Zaldaan Sirnah: and when I found it was here I realized here is just good practice for continuing it the rest of the day
    Alfred Kelberry: we do, zal
    Wol Euler: hello ari
    Quiver Quintessa: It's a freebie fashion blog
    Agatha Macbeth: Freebie fashion eh?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: did someone give Quiver the notecards?
    Agatha Macbeth: I *think* I did
    Quiver Quintessa: I got addicted and then became a designer
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Alfred Kelberry: next question, did she read them? :)
    Wol Euler: my work is done.
    Agatha Macbeth: Be quiet Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: bleep :P
    Zaldaan Sirnah: She didn't get them
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Hang on

    Noobs are like buses, you don't see one for ages then three come along together!

    Archmage Atlantis: Pema did not stay... he fears his own creation.....perhaps that is how Y-w-h felt
    Zaldaan Sirnah: oh wait, she got them, but crashed
    Agatha Macbeth looks at the sky
    Quiver Quintessa: I got 2 and crashed
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Agatha, why?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well now you have 4 then :)
    Alfred Kelberry: arch? pema does?
    Agatha Macbeth: I like clouds
    Zaldaan Sirnah: :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I thought you were looking for Y-w-h
    Alfred Kelberry: i like woly
    Fael Innovia: what's Y-w-h?
    Wol Euler: awwwww
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Yahweh -- or Yehowah or Jehova, etc.
    Agatha Macbeth: A name of God Fael
    Fael Innovia: oh, ok
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Hebrew letters in the old testamen
    Zaldaan Sirnah: and other hebrew literature I presume :)
    Agatha Macbeth knows it as YHWH
    Zaldaan Sirnah: that's probably it
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Zaldaan Sirnah: it probably is the 4 letters
    Zaldaan Sirnah: (which I recognized while typing the names out)
    Alfred Kelberry: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi.../1/14/YHWH.png
    Agatha Macbeth: Tetragrammon?


    Agatha Macbeth: Tetragrammaton, that's it
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Quiver talked during it
    Wol Euler: I'm watching internet TV broadcasting from SL in another window :) a bunch of SL avs sitting around talking about open sim.
    Wol Euler shakes her head admiringly.
    Quiver Quintessa: :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Wol Euler: a) that this is possible at all
    Wol Euler: b) that it's free.
    Wol Euler: which of those would most have amazed people 40 years ago?
    Agatha Macbeth: c) That anybody does it
    Wol Euler: hehehehe
    Wol Euler: ok, yes, it would have to be people of the tv age
    Quiver Quintessa: Probably the Avatars
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm of the post-TV age
    Wol Euler: http://treet.tv/live <-- if you are curious
    Archmage Atlantis: good, SL, the concpt, is growing..... the onyly growing my cat an dI do is old
    Agatha Macbeth: TV = television that is :)
    Wol Euler: yes, aggers, probably true of all of us
    Alfred Kelberry: wol, so, you're amazed by a live broadcast on the net?
    Agatha Macbeth grins
    Wol Euler: yes, alf, I am. I am a bear of little brain and easily amused.
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Fake Wol
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I guess we had the last Science Friday's (with Ira Flatow, who you might recall from Newton's Apple)
    Alfred Kelberry: wol, it reminds me of this "it's going to space" comedian video :)
    Wol Euler: I suppose what amazes me most is that they bother to do it
    Wol Euler: or that what they do is so traditionally, *dully* television
    Agatha Macbeth: I guess that's what amazes anyone
    Wol Euler: three talking heads sitting in chairs on a stage
    Agatha Macbeth: David Byrne?
    Wol Euler: sadly, no.
    Archmage Atlantis: It gives purpose, Wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Aw
    Wol Euler: well, perhaps, who knows :)
    Wol Euler peers into Aggers eyes. Admit it, you are Stephen Fry!
    Wol Euler: outed!
    Agatha Macbeth: No, he's bisexual :PPPP
    Wol Euler: your point being?
    Agatha Macbeth: That he's bisexual...
    Wol Euler: yeeeeees?
    Agatha Macbeth coughs
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice weather we're having today
    Wol Euler: indeed
    Agatha Macbeth: Why is the fountain red?
    Archmage Atlantis: The really nice thing about being old, is that sex is usually not the obvious reason
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Archmage Atlantis: My copy appears to have died
    Agatha Macbeth chants the te deum
    Archmage Atlantis: So the question is still there
    Agatha Macbeth: Which question?
    Archmage Atlantis: Why is the fountain red
    Wol Euler: is it?
    Agatha Macbeth: That's what i said!
    Wol Euler: looks blue to me
    Fael Innovia: looks blue to me as well
    Agatha Macbeth: And the cushions too
    Wol Euler: oh!
    Wol Euler: heh
    Wol Euler: you have switched on "show transparent"
    Quiver Quintessa: Which fountain?
    Fael Innovia: no, that won't change the fountain red
    Wol Euler: View/Highlilght transparent


    Fael Innovia: just the flower and the water gushing up :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That made things worse!
    Quiver Quintessa: Shush!
    Quiver Quintessa: :)
    Wol Euler grins silently.
    Archmage Atlantis: Please do not use :"diah:
    Archmage Atlantis: fish
    Quiver Quintessa: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
    Quiver Quintessa: 567
    Wol Euler: banana!
    Agatha Macbeth: Fish
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Or bananafish
    Archmage Atlantis: With great power, comes great responsibility
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: poor old seymour
    Agatha Macbeth: Or concrete donkey

    Anyone remember Worms?

    Quiver Quintessa: 42
    Archmage Atlantis: Touching my part of the elephant
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, i gotta go
    Wol Euler: bye alf, be square.
    Alfred Kelberry: thanks :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Forgot you were here Alf!
    Agatha Macbeth: Box clever
    Quiver Quintessa: We've bored the cardboard
    Quiver Quintessa: Bye
    Agatha Macbeth: Off to a bored meeting
    Wol Euler: chairman of the bored
    Agatha Macbeth remembers them
    Agatha Macbeth: General Johnson
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Fael, your name derives from?
    Fael Innovia: sorry? derives?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: comes from
    Fael Innovia: I'm still confused as to what you're asking :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: what does your name Fael come from? :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I think he means where did the name Fael come from
    Fael Innovia: Ah... it popped into my mind when I was choosing my SL name :)
    Fael Innovia: after some pondering
    Fael Innovia: I initially resisted actually choosing it. It felt too simple.
    Agatha Macbeth: I had wondered myself actually...
    Fael Innovia: but... could not think of anything else and then gave in and saw if there were any surnames that went nice with it :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: anyone know if it's arabic or something?
    Archmage Atlantis: There is power, power, wonder working power,in the blood of the j
    Fael Innovia: but that's a story for how my main (not this alt) got her name.
    Agatha Macbeth: It reminds me of 'fae'
    Fael Innovia: (my main's Fael Illyar)
    Archmage Atlantis: Fae is a name of a people
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought it meant fairy or something
    Wol Euler: I thought it was "leaf" backwards :)
    Agatha Macbeth: It is
    Wol Euler: I meant that it was intentionally that
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Fael Innovia: Nope, I was surprised to find that out :)
    Fael Innovia: Even if it does fit in well with the theme I had in mind :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Alef!
    Agatha Macbeth: Alpha?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: first letter (a) in arabic, persian, and hebrew
    Agatha Macbeth: Would you believe our letter A was originally a picture of a bull's head?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Hmm, our 2nd life ID's are going to be showing online in searches now.
    Agatha Macbeth: All alphabets derive from pictograms ultimately
    Archmage Atlantis: a middle one....neither apha nor omega


    Agatha Macbeth: That would be Mu Arch :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well I think it's time I was elsewhere peeps, be well
    Wol Euler: bye agatha, take care
    Fael Innovia: have fun Aggers :)
    Agatha Macbeth: This will be one hell of a log to edit...
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    Zaldaan Sirnah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Be...n_DB1_1-15.jpg
    Quiver Quintessa: Bye!
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Old persian was this interesting set symbols, very un-picturesque
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I believe it was readily etched though
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Oh, I didn't notice the bell :(
    Zaldaan Sirnah: heh.. the bull turning its head into an A is funny in Wiki
    Fael Innovia: Well, time for me to head for the next place :)
    Fael Innovia: Have fun everyone :)
    Wol Euler: bye fael
    Wol Euler: I too should head out, time for bed.
    Zaldaan Sirnah: bye :)
    Wol Euler: It was nice to see you again, Zaldaan and Quiver
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Likewise :)
    Wol Euler: bye arch, take care
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Interesting
    Zaldaan Sirnah: When are the meetings here?
    Quiver Quintessa: You too Wol
    Wol Euler: 1am 7am 1pm 7pm
    Wol Euler: every day
    Quiver Quintessa: :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: nice :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: thanks
    Wol Euler: something for everyone :)
    Wol Euler: bye for now
    Zaldaan Sirnah: bye
    Zaldaan Sirnah: :)

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