2010.06.08 19:00 - Conscious Embodiment

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.


    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza, Calvino

    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Eos!

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh :) Hi Calvino, Eos :)

    Calvino Rabeni: Konnichi wa, Eliza-san

    Eliza Madrigal bows

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eos Amaterasu: :-)

    Eliza Madrigal really curious to hear anything you have to share about the event this week, Eos...

    Eos Amaterasu: Very full

    Calvino Rabeni: What event was that ?

    Eos Amaterasu: Excellent day today, starting with a meditation instruction done by lady who is a bugaku and other dancer

    Eos Amaterasu: (speaking of Japanese ladies)

    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Eos Amaterasu: beautful form

    Eos Amaterasu: form

    Eos Amaterasu: this is at ALIA (Authentic Leadership in Action) summer program

    Eos Amaterasu: in Halifax

    Calvino Rabeni: That sounds very enlivening.




    Eliza Madrigal: Quite a bit about bokaku on the web... how interesting

    Eos Amaterasu: Saw her perform once with Philip Glass

    Eliza Madrigal: My

    Eos Amaterasu: The institute program is an interesting, and successful, container for a pretty transformative journey

    Eos Amaterasu: framed with openness (through basic sitting) and including arts permeated by that

    Eos Amaterasu: For example, I'm doing a module on "Power and Love" re working with conflict situations, with one of the two presenters being an Aikido master (Wendy Palmer)

    Eos Amaterasu: who has developed a practice of "conscious embodiment"

    Eos Amaterasu: She even has a 7-second exercise! :-)

    Eliza Madrigal: ! :))

    Calvino Rabeni: That's a great approach, which I hope gets more well known.

    Eos Amaterasu: Nice thing is that it's very inclusive of perceiving _through_ the body

    Eliza Madrigal: conscious embodiment... intersting idea... Ah! You just answered my question!

    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, that is pretty indispensible

    Eliza Madrigal: Say more if you can?

    Eliza Madrigal becomes more conscious and sits up straighter ;-)

    Eos Amaterasu: It includes for example notion of aligning head, heart, and belly (hara)

    Eos Amaterasu: http://www.tam-aikido.org/ and http://consciousembodiment.com

    Eos Amaterasu: As a head-oriented guy it's a learning edge for me to be more aware of and from my heart and my body/guts

    Calvino Rabeni: I've often thought of those 3 as the "simple" version of the idea of cakras, and also the embodiment of the functional centers in the body.

    Calvino Rabeni: Those functional centers being Thinking, Feeling, and Moving

    Eos Amaterasu: It's a bit like becoming more aware of different types of avatars' bodies that make you up

    Eliza Madrigal musing a bit.. yes 'multi dimensional ways of being'...

    Calvino Rabeni: There are a lot of somewhat similar maps of embodied consciousness

    Eos Amaterasu: Yes.... many many

    Eos Amaterasu: This is an area I'm becoming more aware of ,and so looking for some really simple practice I can relate to....

    Eliza Madrigal nods, yes I relate to that also. There have been many times I've flipped through a book with complicated maps and just put it back on the shelf...

    Calvino Rabeni: What would "really simple" be, Eos

    Eos Amaterasu: (btw, I'll have to catch up on the WG activities)

    Eliza Madrigal: but a few simple things to work with is usually best

    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, Wendy calls such books "Shelf Help", because that's where they end up :-)

    Eliza Madrigal smiles. Yes, especially you'll need to stroll by village square Eos! :) bustling with activity :)

    Eliza Madrigal: haha, I like that

    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, yes, the photographs!




    Calvino Rabeni: That is the ironic thing though - people don't take the simple things seriously. Partly the maps and diagrams are to get people to think there's enough complexity for it to matter. :)

    Eos Amaterasu: Really simple means short and sweet enough that I could actually do it

    Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes that's a great observation Calvino

    Eliza Madrigal: indeed

    Eliza Madrigal: The practices I tend to stick with, tend to be the ones that are easily integrated one by one

    Calvino Rabeni: There is a basic foundational practice - it is, simply - "Be aware of what is happening in your body"

    Calvino Rabeni: That's all - just simple attention, and keep doing that

    Eos Amaterasu: question is, as with any act of observation, is to tune or grow the appropriate organ of observation

    Calvino Rabeni: So, it's too simple to be taken seriously eh? :)

    Eos Amaterasu: I'm just becoming aware of the subtlety of that

    Calvino Rabeni: Sure, it is endlessly subtle

    Eos Amaterasu: or put it another way, a probe can help open space

    Calvino Rabeni: It can - attention is a kind of space itself

    Eos Amaterasu: the probe is not the space opened up, but it makes a relationship with the space

    Eos Amaterasu: yes, attention is the ultimate space

    Eliza Madrigal: I have to admit that for many years I disregarded talk of chakras and such... amazing how things come back around and one can find a bit of why ideas tend to come back up

    Eliza Madrigal: ways of seeing, ways of being :)

    Eos Amaterasu: in "the flow" form is dropped, or it's not separate from what is happening

    Eos Amaterasu: but form helps you get there

    Eliza Madrigal: And also, it seems, capacity/relavance

    Eliza Madrigal: *relevance

    Calvino Rabeni: It's fine to ignore all those chakra systems and stuff - without the embodied awareness it is just another mental compexlty-

    Calvino Rabeni: But with the awareness, then those maps might give someone a way to see some of those subtleties

    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, can give you more fine-tuned vocabulary

    Calvino Rabeni: I believe, when people just pay attention, they will see that "map" for themselves, as it lives there

    Calvino Rabeni: the vocabulary is for teaching or communicating, not so much for some kind of practice

    Eliza Madrigal: yes, ... I think that's a bit of what I meant... there is a more and more subtle context... precision, etc

    Calvino Rabeni: That's my bias anyway - toward conceptual minimalism

    Eliza Madrigal: and well is it about a certain kind of ability/concentration to be able to move attention?

    Calvino Rabeni: The great thing about an art like Aikido - a martial art, is that it has to WORK RIGHT NOW :)

    Eos Amaterasu: I tend that way too: "three words that strike vital point" over "sutra in 10,000,000 verses" :-)

    Eliza Madrigal: :))

    Calvino Rabeni: Or else :)

    Eos Amaterasu: Yes, a complete action takes just a few seconds

    Calvino Rabeni: i.e. Instant Karma

    Eliza Madrigal: gonna get you

    Calvino Rabeni: right, that one :)

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eos Amaterasu: like the moon and the stars and the sun :-)

    Eliza Madrigal: :::holds hands and sways::: hehe

    Eos Amaterasu looks for lighter in inventory

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, but still, all very fascinating. How many of these presentations/workshops have you attended Eos?

    Eos Amaterasu: Well, each summer session has modules to choose from, each of which is 3 hours/day, and then there's other activities, plenaries, and lots of peer-to-peer interaction

    Eos Amaterasu: Thursday will be "Social Presencing Theater"

    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm




    Eos Amaterasu: http://www.presencing.com/projects/sp_theater.shtml

    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting description. Have you taken part in this kind of thing before?

    Eos Amaterasu: Not exactly that, but I've been at events which are maybe more extended and complete versions of that, such as the all-night Javanese shadow puppet play

    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni puts link into his bookmark collection

    Eliza Madrigal: I learned only recently that the word 'theory' derives from the same word that theatre dervies from... thought that was fascinating connection

    Calvino Rabeni: That's fascinating :)

    Eos Amaterasu: theories: ways of seeing

    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)

    Eos Amaterasu: language is amazing

    Calvino Rabeni: It shows the truer early relationship between knowing and Drama

    Eos Amaterasu: playing as

    Calvino Rabeni: as it is a Dramatic Universe

    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, nods :))

    Eos Amaterasu: I guess there's some connotation of acting and knowing that you're acting (or, being, and knowing that you're being, is acting)

    Eliza Madrigal: yes, seeing your views

    Eos Amaterasu: which means awareness could rest in itself

    Eos Amaterasu: gulp

    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Eliza Madrigal breathes

    Eos Amaterasu: (sixth word of Tilopa :-)

    Eos Amaterasu: rang sar zhag: rest in itself

    Calvino Rabeni: That archaic consciousness still carries a lot of truth that has been "forgotten" by moderns

    Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking about that fellow a lot... about 'beyond effort' and Rest that is active

    Calvino Rabeni: Like, the classic imporance of the Art of Rhetoric

    Calvino Rabeni: as an essential part of the education of the mind

    Eliza Madrigal: Its nice to take the lids off those forgotten things perhaps

    Eos Amaterasu gets dust mop

    Eliza Madrigal giggles

    Eliza Madrigal: Depends on the environment they are opened into perhaps :))

    Calvino Rabeni: Good point - rest is active - the paradox is it a kind of fulcrum - like the pivot of a lever - least movement but most active

    Calvino Rabeni: Ah, they still seem fresh after all those centuries :)

    Eliza Madrigal: :)))

    Eliza Madrigal: So sleepy... I'd better say goodnight. Thanks for the lovely session

    Eos Amaterasu: Near midnight here, will also make departure (early risings these days :-)

    Eos Amaterasu: Bye Eliza, Calvino

    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Eliza (what a dramatic departure)

    Eos Amaterasu: :-)

    Calvino Rabeni: Bye, Eos

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    Thanks for mentioning Wendy Palmer.
    She started Mt. Tam Dojo with George Leonard, who was just as amazing as Wendy.
    Posted 08:51, 3 Feb 2011
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