The Guardian for this meeting was Eos Amaterasu. The comments are by Eos Amaterasu.
Eos Amaterasu: Hi Eliza, Calvino
Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, Eos!
Eliza Madrigal: Oh :) Hi Calvino, Eos :)
Calvino Rabeni: Konnichi wa, Eliza-san
Eliza Madrigal bows
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Eliza Madrigal really curious to hear anything you have to share about the event this week, Eos...
Eos Amaterasu: Very full
Calvino Rabeni: What event was that ?
Eos Amaterasu: Excellent day today, starting with a meditation instruction done by lady who is a bugaku and other dancer
Eos Amaterasu: (speaking of Japanese ladies)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eos Amaterasu: beautful form
Eos Amaterasu: form
Eos Amaterasu: this is at ALIA (Authentic Leadership in Action) summer program
Eos Amaterasu: in Halifax
Calvino Rabeni: That sounds very enlivening.
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Eliza Madrigal: Quite a bit about bokaku on the web... how interesting
Eos Amaterasu: Saw her perform once with Philip Glass
Eliza Madrigal: My
Eos Amaterasu: The institute program is an interesting, and successful, container for a pretty transformative journey
Eos Amaterasu: framed with openness (through basic sitting) and including arts permeated by that
Eos Amaterasu: For example, I'm doing a module on "Power and Love" re working with conflict situations, with one of the two presenters being an Aikido master (Wendy Palmer)
Eos Amaterasu: who has developed a practice of "conscious embodiment"
Eos Amaterasu: She even has a 7-second exercise! :-)
Eliza Madrigal: ! :))
Calvino Rabeni: That's a great approach, which I hope gets more well known.
Eos Amaterasu: Nice thing is that it's very inclusive of perceiving _through_ the body
Eliza Madrigal: conscious embodiment... intersting idea... Ah! You just answered my question!
Calvino Rabeni: Yes, that is pretty indispensible
Eliza Madrigal: Say more if you can?
Eliza Madrigal becomes more conscious and sits up straighter ;-)
Eos Amaterasu: It includes for example notion of aligning head, heart, and belly (hara)
Eos Amaterasu: http://www.tam-aikido.org/ and http://consciousembodiment.com
Eos Amaterasu: As a head-oriented guy it's a learning edge for me to be more aware of and from my heart and my body/guts
Calvino Rabeni: I've often thought of those 3 as the "simple" version of the idea of cakras, and also the embodiment of the functional centers in the body.
Calvino Rabeni: Those functional centers being Thinking, Feeling, and Moving
Eos Amaterasu: It's a bit like becoming more aware of different types of avatars' bodies that make you up
Eliza Madrigal musing a bit.. yes 'multi dimensional ways of being'...
Calvino Rabeni: There are a lot of somewhat similar maps of embodied consciousness
Eos Amaterasu: Yes.... many many
Eos Amaterasu: This is an area I'm becoming more aware of ,and so looking for some really simple practice I can relate to....
Eliza Madrigal nods, yes I relate to that also. There have been many times I've flipped through a book with complicated maps and just put it back on the shelf...
Calvino Rabeni: What would "really simple" be, Eos
Eos Amaterasu: (btw, I'll have to catch up on the WG activities)
Eliza Madrigal: but a few simple things to work with is usually best
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, Wendy calls such books "Shelf Help", because that's where they end up :-)
Eliza Madrigal smiles. Yes, especially you'll need to stroll by village square Eos! :) bustling with activity :)
Eliza Madrigal: haha, I like that
Eos Amaterasu: Oh, yes, the photographs!
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Calvino Rabeni: That is the ironic thing though - people don't take the simple things seriously. Partly the maps and diagrams are to get people to think there's enough complexity for it to matter. :)
Eos Amaterasu: Really simple means short and sweet enough that I could actually do it
Eliza Madrigal: :)) yes that's a great observation Calvino
Eliza Madrigal: indeed
Eliza Madrigal: The practices I tend to stick with, tend to be the ones that are easily integrated one by one
Calvino Rabeni: There is a basic foundational practice - it is, simply - "Be aware of what is happening in your body"
Calvino Rabeni: That's all - just simple attention, and keep doing that
Eos Amaterasu: question is, as with any act of observation, is to tune or grow the appropriate organ of observation
Calvino Rabeni: So, it's too simple to be taken seriously eh? :)
Eos Amaterasu: I'm just becoming aware of the subtlety of that
Calvino Rabeni: Sure, it is endlessly subtle
Eos Amaterasu: or put it another way, a probe can help open space
Calvino Rabeni: It can - attention is a kind of space itself
Eos Amaterasu: the probe is not the space opened up, but it makes a relationship with the space
Eos Amaterasu: yes, attention is the ultimate space
Eliza Madrigal: I have to admit that for many years I disregarded talk of chakras and such... amazing how things come back around and one can find a bit of why ideas tend to come back up
Eliza Madrigal: ways of seeing, ways of being :)
Eos Amaterasu: in "the flow" form is dropped, or it's not separate from what is happening
Eos Amaterasu: but form helps you get there
Eliza Madrigal: And also, it seems, capacity/relavance
Eliza Madrigal: *relevance
Calvino Rabeni: It's fine to ignore all those chakra systems and stuff - without the embodied awareness it is just another mental compexlty-
Calvino Rabeni: But with the awareness, then those maps might give someone a way to see some of those subtleties
Eos Amaterasu: yeah, can give you more fine-tuned vocabulary
Calvino Rabeni: I believe, when people just pay attention, they will see that "map" for themselves, as it lives there
Calvino Rabeni: the vocabulary is for teaching or communicating, not so much for some kind of practice
Eliza Madrigal: yes, ... I think that's a bit of what I meant... there is a more and more subtle context... precision, etc
Calvino Rabeni: That's my bias anyway - toward conceptual minimalism
Eliza Madrigal: and well is it about a certain kind of ability/concentration to be able to move attention?
Calvino Rabeni: The great thing about an art like Aikido - a martial art, is that it has to WORK RIGHT NOW :)
Eos Amaterasu: I tend that way too: "three words that strike vital point" over "sutra in 10,000,000 verses" :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :))
Calvino Rabeni: Or else :)
Eos Amaterasu: Yes, a complete action takes just a few seconds
Calvino Rabeni: i.e. Instant Karma
Eliza Madrigal: gonna get you
Calvino Rabeni: right, that one :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eos Amaterasu: like the moon and the stars and the sun :-)
Eliza Madrigal: :::holds hands and sways::: hehe
Eos Amaterasu looks for lighter in inventory
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, but still, all very fascinating. How many of these presentations/workshops have you attended Eos?
Eos Amaterasu: Well, each summer session has modules to choose from, each of which is 3 hours/day, and then there's other activities, plenaries, and lots of peer-to-peer interaction
Eos Amaterasu: Thursday will be "Social Presencing Theater"
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
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Eos Amaterasu: http://www.presencing.com/projects/sp_theater.shtml
Eliza Madrigal: Interesting description. Have you taken part in this kind of thing before?
Eos Amaterasu: Not exactly that, but I've been at events which are maybe more extended and complete versions of that, such as the all-night Javanese shadow puppet play
Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni puts link into his bookmark collection
Eliza Madrigal: I learned only recently that the word 'theory' derives from the same word that theatre dervies from... thought that was fascinating connection
Calvino Rabeni: That's fascinating :)
Eos Amaterasu: theories: ways of seeing
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
Eos Amaterasu: language is amazing
Calvino Rabeni: It shows the truer early relationship between knowing and Drama
Eos Amaterasu: playing as
Calvino Rabeni: as it is a Dramatic Universe
Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, nods :))
Eos Amaterasu: I guess there's some connotation of acting and knowing that you're acting (or, being, and knowing that you're being, is acting)
Eliza Madrigal: yes, seeing your views
Eos Amaterasu: which means awareness could rest in itself
Eos Amaterasu: gulp
Eliza Madrigal smiles
Eliza Madrigal breathes
Eos Amaterasu: (sixth word of Tilopa :-)
Eos Amaterasu: rang sar zhag: rest in itself
Calvino Rabeni: That archaic consciousness still carries a lot of truth that has been "forgotten" by moderns
Eliza Madrigal: have been thinking about that fellow a lot... about 'beyond effort' and Rest that is active
Calvino Rabeni: Like, the classic imporance of the Art of Rhetoric
Calvino Rabeni: as an essential part of the education of the mind
Eliza Madrigal: Its nice to take the lids off those forgotten things perhaps
Eos Amaterasu gets dust mop
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: Depends on the environment they are opened into perhaps :))
Calvino Rabeni: Good point - rest is active - the paradox is it a kind of fulcrum - like the pivot of a lever - least movement but most active
Calvino Rabeni: Ah, they still seem fresh after all those centuries :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)))
Eliza Madrigal: So sleepy... I'd better say goodnight. Thanks for the lovely session
Eos Amaterasu: Near midnight here, will also make departure (early risings these days :-)
Eos Amaterasu: Bye Eliza, Calvino
Calvino Rabeni: Bye Eliza (what a dramatic departure)
Eos Amaterasu: :-)
Calvino Rabeni: Bye, Eos
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She started Mt. Tam Dojo with George Leonard, who was just as amazing as Wendy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Leonard
http://www.esalen.org/tributes/george-leonard.html