2010.06.11 07:00 - Generous Pushing

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza who was joined by SophiaSharon, Eden, Zaldaan (for 'real'), Zen, and Lucinda.

    I would characterize this as a quirky-but-interesting session, which highlights the relative vs. absolute question we eventually touch on, after discussing ideas of time, motion, awareness, dreams, and wu wei. 

    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hi Sharon :)) Nice to see you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you too! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: >gasp< .... transformation taking place before my eyes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Eliza Madrigal: OH, how pretty... very elegant hair... gentle :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: still not rezzed for me
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes I lose the 'feel' of SL and find myself retreating into being 'in my head', but everyone's changing clothes often draws me into the 'experience' of SL again...
    Eliza Madrigal: Speaking of which, I love when you're in pink Eden :) Hi :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I mainly live in my head, so it's kind of hard to relate :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Eden beautiful ^^
    Eden Haiku: Hi, good morning Eliza and Shophia Sharon :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe @shophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cant deny it
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahahhah!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: What a perfect typo
    Eden Haiku: Beautiful kimonos ladies!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ty :)
    Eden Haiku: smiles at her own typo...
    Eliza Madrigal: Its funny, but I consider SL an 'outgoing' thing to do ... surely more social and 'out of my head' than the reading and such I do a lot...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zaldaan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zaldaan
    Eden Haiku: Oh yes, beacuse we interact in here. In PaB at least ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Eliza SL is an interactive experience
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting tag 'Real.'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: very
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    After a few sessions of Zaldaan's alt being present without greetings or participation, Eden and I are curious...

    Eden Haiku: HI Zaldaan. Nice to see you can talk ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Not sure.... he's in the fountain exuding hearts for me... not talking yet...?
    Eden Haiku: Oh, I thought I saw some text on the bubble over his head.
    Eliza Madrigal: like someone who has appeared from the fountain to tell us something from the underworld.... heheh
    Eden Haiku: But it was SophiaSharon line about SL experience...

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    Zaldaan fills in a few details...

    SophiaSharon Larnia: the choice can be to intereact in your own head, if you like, it has that flavor
    Eden Haiku: What is the point in coming in the pavilion if you don't participate Zaldaan?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: silence is always ok
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I assure you it was not to cause negativity.
    Eden Haiku: May I know why then?
    Eliza Madrigal: I guess we're getting curious to have you with us a few times without seeming to be here, no worries
    Zaldaan Sirnah: You just have not seen me participate.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: imho, what you do here is right for you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its not for me to say
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I have spoken in Sophia's presence
    SophiaSharon Larnia: unless your throwing fireballs at my avi head
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and then ill have to go kung foo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I was here when you first came and chatted quite a bit...
    Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Sharon
    Eliza Madrigal: Hey, Zen :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zen :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I have many things to handle in my RL environment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Eden Haiku: I'm just wondering about these long sessions where you are just sitting here as a ghost,
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah
    Zen Arado: Hi all :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: as such it is not always possible to stand in the middle of the fountain for your entire discussion.
    Eden Haiku: I understand, but why make the choice ton sit in here if you are so busy then?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: perchance I may interact
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I appreciate you are here now.
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, don't worry. Yaku often does the same thing, its just that we've gotten to know him....
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Because you all have so much to offer
    Eliza Madrigal: so know that he may even be asleep :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe you can even start leaving boxes around here too ^^ LOL
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Zaldaan :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah (@ Sharon)

    Readers will have to decide if we did indeed find a topic...

    Eliza Madrigal: Well shall we have a topic today??
    Eliza Madrigal: How about the 9 seconds?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oops there was one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and another ^^
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I just wondered if Zaldaan had been introduced to the pauses 'formally/officially' :)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do like your tag Zaldaan, "Real."
    Eliza Madrigal: We pause of course, here during sessions, but PaB started with an idea of stopping every fifteen minutes for 9 seconds... a time tax of sorts
    Eliza Madrigal: and lately I've gotten away from it a little... so wondered about others
    SophiaSharon Larnia: there are places and times its more prominent, but more often lately
    Eliza Madrigal: yes?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive spoken so much on strings of moment, i'm sort of hesitant to bring it up again, but thats where it came from
    SophiaSharon Larnia: moments*
    Zaldaan Sirnah: strings of moment?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, but its fascinating Sharon... sharing may bring clarity

    Now, and now, and now... Silly Strings of Moment...

    SophiaSharon Larnia: every moment is now, then now, then now again
    Zen Arado: yes what is it?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: like, when you can't stop laughing and can't breathe?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Zaldaan Sirnah: those would be silly strings of moment
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats a moment or several!

    Eliza Madrigal: Silly Strings of Moment! Indeed
    Zen Arado: we create our moments though
    Zen Arado: don't we ?
    Eliza Madrigal: Well perhaps... Sometimes I feel to emerge from a moment...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and i wondered what the difference is between those moments, and all I could come up with so far is the experience between them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not the 'in between'
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I'm not sure what you're noticing/asking
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats something else, but it isnt, so setting that aside, for the moment ^^
    Zaldaan Sirnah: What is a moment?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Mmm, yes I was about to ask... "What is the experience between them"? a commonality?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I believe there are no "moments" -- there is only one moment.
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what makes them different
    Zen Arado: there is only this moment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right
    Zen Arado: only now
    Zaldaan Sirnah: they are a presentation of the Infinite, "Now"
    Eliza Madrigal: which isn't something we've 'got'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is the perception of change
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Probably it is motion
    Zen Arado: we need to be 'one with now' as Tolle says
    Zaldaan Sirnah:

    "The definition of existence is, motion from motion in motion." -- Molana Shahmaghsoud Sadegh Angha
    Zaldaan Sirnah: but that is among many other lines of poetry
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whats the perception of motion
    Zaldaan Sirnah: first, what is motion?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: right
    Zen Arado: movement?
    Eliza Madrigal: Funny to be looking at time again... as though we can see it... through the idea/projection/appearance of motion
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: Thinking of Zen stories "mind moves, not wind"
    Zen Arado: e - motion = from movement?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: motion/movement -- same thing I believe

    Zen Arado:

    Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind.

    One said, "The flag moves." The other said, "The wind moves."

    They argued back and forth but could not agree.

    Hui-neng, the sixth patriarch, said:

    "Gentlemen! It is not the flag that moves. It is not the wind that moves. It is your mind that moves."

    The two monks were struck with awe.

    Eliza Madrigal: And then there is the phrase 'going through the motions...'
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, thanks Zen :) That's the one
    Eliza Madrigal: So if in the 9 seconds we 'drop what we have to see what we are'... what might that mean in the context of a moment?
    Zen Arado: we see how our mind is moving in the pause?
    Eliza Madrigal: are we dropping 'going through the motions'?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, perhaps Zen... hm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: motion stopped?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: trying to be still
    SophiaSharon Larnia: motion dropped
    Zen Arado: just noticing is sufficient I think

    Eliza Madrigal: perhaps, in a sense shifting into timeless time is the only way to see time 'moving'
    Zen Arado: awareness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: out of space abd tie
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and time*
    Eliza Madrigal: Then seeing it, isn't 'we' seeing it... 'i' seeing...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lofty expectation eh?
    Zen Arado: just seeing

    Eliza Madrigal: Well maybe what we drop is the loftiness....?
    Eliza Madrigal: the idea that the motions are what is real or relevant or special

    Zen Arado: ha ha I feel very Zen today :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: will hit you all with a stick in a minute :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: good luck with that! Sharon knows kung fu
    SophiaSharon Larnia: um er yea
    Zen Arado: retracts statement hastily
    Eliza Madrigal: hhehee
    Zaldaan Sirnah: is it not amazing that two things exist, and you can place your hand in front of a distant object and it disappears from sight?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know land tools ^^ giggles
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but maybe i need to be hit with a stick once in a while, maybe not literally :)
    Zen Arado: better not edit terrain here
    Zaldaan Sirnah: no you need to be hit with a stick literally sometimes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh noos Storm would not be happy
    Zen Arado: keeps you awake
    Eliza Madrigal: I've only recently learned why.... re the stick
    Eliza Madrigal: awake yes, but also not 'comfortable' in meditation....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: besides, I dont have those perms
    Eliza Madrigal: either too tight or too loose.... you can be awake but not in awareness?

    SophiaSharon Larnia: life hits me with a stick, I want to go to sleep
    Zen Arado: have to stay open to life's blows
    Eliza Madrigal: burrowing :)
    Zen Arado: trying hard to do this
    Eliza Madrigal: There are days I do that too
    Zen Arado: open and vulnerable
    Zen Arado: so hard to do
    Eliza Madrigal: our 'trying' isnt going to help with those things... maybe to a small degree...
    Zen Arado: needs some effort though?
    Eliza Madrigal: but it is the other place... that 'dropped' place... awareness, where there comes a shift like reverberation into the other perhaps
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Lucinda :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So, to use a biblical line... there is a 'labor' to enter into rest....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lucinda :)
    Zen Arado: hi Luci:)
    Lucinda Lavender: :) Hi Everyone....
    Eliza Madrigal: Well... just musing aloud, not meaning to sound teachy ;-))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a quirk I have
    Eliza Madrigal: mommy brain

    Doing and Allowing. So this is where we dipped into 'Relative and Absolute' perhaps. "Absolutely" we can allow. Relatively, we sure seem to do, and to need to do? Absolutely, we are infinitely patient and never irked by personalities. Relatively, we sharpen each other? :)

    Zen Arado: I have difficulties lately with how much we have to 'do' and how much we allow the flow to happen through us
    Eliza Madrigal: there's that balance issue... the 'both'
    Eliza Madrigal: we're so used to going back from one to the other perhaps... like tennis
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and i think thats alright, we're 3d beings, living
    Zen Arado: I fall back into old habits if I don't make an effort
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed Sharon
    Zen Arado: old patterns are so comfortable....
    Eliza Madrigal: there's a phrase I've been musing on though... which seems to help...
    Zaldaan Sirnah: There's so much, in this chapter, on motion...
    Eliza Madrigal: 'beyond effort', so its not dropping effort, or somehow trying to manage it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: living to experience motion
    Eliza Madrigal: yes delighting in the motion because one 'can' get out of it
    Eliza Madrigal: it isn't a cage
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i suspect sometimes that motion is the point
    Zen Arado: back to Wu Wei I guess
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods emphatically
    Eliza Madrigal: but the point of focusing on wu wei is to enjoy/enhance/cultivate our lives... not visa versa ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: is it?
    Eliza Madrigal: Or is that both as well?
    Eliza Madrigal: Is it both and neither? :) hm... yes a very zen day
    Eliza Madrigal: Zaldaan, which chapter?

    SophiaSharon Larnia: wu wei being the experience of both?

    Zen Arado: Mitsu's story last night was a kind of wu wei?
    Eliza Madrigal nods... great story... feel free to share it Zen, Wok is pubic :))
    Zen Arado: is it published yet?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :) That person who does that tends to be quiet punctual - hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: quite, too

    Zen shares a portion of yesterday's "Ways of Knowing" Workshop at Kira:

    Zen Arado:

    Mitsu Ishii: so one day I was practicing martial arts with my old teacher, Michael Thompson
    : we were doing an exercise in which you sit down and try to push each other
    : one person pushes into the other Mitsu Ishii: and the "goal" so to speak is to push the person over
    : it's interesting because you really have to relax to be able to push effectively
    : and to absorb the other person's push
    : anyway, so I was doing this with my teacher
    : it was like trying to push a brick wall
    : so there I was, struggling and struggling to push him and he was just sitting there

    Mitsu Ishii: so finally he leans over and says "be more generous"
    Mitsu Ishii: and it was like a light bulb over my head
    Mitsu Ishii: I realized the problem was I had been thinking of it in terms of a conflict, I'm trying to push him over / but instead, if I think of it as being generous with my energy, suddenly I felt a new reservoir of energy / and I could be generous with it
    Gaya Ethaniel nods. Seeing the other as an enemy ...
    Mitsu Ishii: so that worked a lot better. I always remember that moment

    Zen Arado: so...just changing his thoughts gave him so much more energy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: and the thought that pushing would be a generous thing is fascinating ...
    Zen Arado: got him closer to 'the flow'?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, kind of flipped things inside out

    Here Eden and Zen have topics which overlap a bit. Sometimes in a session it can be difficult for everyone to be/feel heard, and I hope that we can pick up on many of the themes that were about to arise from various directions, another 'time' ... 

    Eden Haiku: Clearing her throat...
    Zen Arado: wonder if that would help my muscular dystrophy :)
    Zen Arado: conversation stopper :)
    Eden Haiku: Playing as Zalddan for the last half hour or so, I noticed something...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm listening Zen :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm that's quite a thought itself, Zen. One day we might want to plan some sessions on mind/body/etc
    Zen Arado: playing as Zaldaan ?
    Zen Arado: oh
    Eliza Madrigal noticed Eden quiet...
    Eden Haiku: Being here without participating as he played a few times
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't think I could ever do that here... but might be worth trying....
    Lucinda Lavender: LL is listening and thinking about flow...
    Eden Haiku: Well, it is an interesting experiment yes.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I could do it pretty easily haha
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, flow
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i think i have
    Lucinda Lavender: noticing that I don't always know what playing is...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think you've done that before Sharon... I really can't remember ever being able to...
    Eliza Madrigal: especially on days when I say "I'm going to be quiet today"
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Zen Arado: Zaldaan isn't an alt of you Eden?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Chapter 35 of "Expansion and Contraction within Being (dahm)" by Molana Salaheddin Ali Nader Angha < <pir oveyssi=""/> >
    Eliza Madrigal: AH, you did see my question. Thank you
    Eden Haiku: Oh no, I don't play manipulative games Zen.

    Zaldaan Sirnah: Zen, what kind of MD do you have?
    Zen Arado: FSH
    Zen Arado: fascio scapulo humeral

    There seemed to be a pause and I didn't want to leave Lucinda's question dangling...

    Eliza Madrigal: Lucinda, would you care to say more regarding: Lucinda Lavender: noticing that I don't always know what playing is...
    Lucinda Lavender: ll is wondering if feelings block flow or if is just part of it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah great question
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: 'flow' has a lot to do with body harmony too... circulating energy, even when we are limited in various ways
    Zen Arado: sorry I have to go - I have RL friends ust arrived
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, Bye Zen. See you soon and enjoy friends :))
    Zaldaan Sirnah: How advanced is it?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: ttyl
    Lucinda Lavender: I was wondering what playing was reffering to in this earlier use of the word..just recently...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zen!
    Eliza Madrigal: Play has lots of layers, too.... like so many things we discuss
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Its fascinating to hear Pema talk about... our playing as Being playing as us
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: I have a certain pathway that I am studying..
    Lucinda Lavender: Fear, Trust, Flow...

    Eden Haiku: Have to go now. have a nice day everyone!
    Eliza Madrigal: btw, I had chills the other day when Connie talked about dream teachers, Lucinda... resonated strongly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eden!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
    Lucinda Lavender: really
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eden! Nice to see you ((( ))))
    Lucinda Lavender: bye Eden..:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometime I'd like to hear what you learned being quiet here, Eden :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Bye Eden :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is a dream teacher?
    Lucinda Lavender: I think Connie had these recurrent teachers that came into her dreams...for certain topics
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ahh ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: :) That's been part of own experience too.. a strong part. I can't remember the last time I felt what I felt hearing her talk about it so openly/fluidly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what was her idea on what these dream teachers, of what they were?
    Lucinda Lavender: One book that describes her experience is called Dreams are Letters from the Soul
    Lucinda Lavender: The characters...teachers...brought certain kinds of wisdom I guess you would call it.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: from a higher self? (hesitant to ask that,as that may be a part of differing beleif systems)
    Lucinda Lavender: I have not had this...but she was devoting all her time to sleep that her body was asking for.
    Eliza Madrigal: <--was diagnosed with lupus many years ago, after a period of time of being out of bed no more than a few hrs a day...
    Eliza Madrigal: changed my life, to sleep so much...
    Lucinda Lavender: ah!
    Lucinda Lavender: illenss has a way of breaking open the egoic shell!
    Eliza Madrigal: I think I became stronger and stronger physically by learning to rest... even in sleeping. Funny to think that we can sleep hours of our days away, but might never really rest
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Lucinda Lavender: I think many who experience dreaming intensely have a special relationship with rest...
    Eliza Madrigal: and so much concentration in sleep, it really can be like accessing another world/worlds/dimensions... hearing from a different 'places' (maybe minds?)


    Eliza Madrigal: that said, I was happy to come back to health and yet continue to explore what I learned... holding it lightly not as a 'belief' system
    Eliza Madrigal: (sorry bell, yes I was typing)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: are you undergoing any particular treatment?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: My uncle had two sisters diagnosed with lupus -- one found a medication worked wonders for her.
    Eliza Madrigal: Just taking good care of myself now and being sensitive to my body :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, I was medicated for a few years...
    Eliza Madrigal: thankfully my bloodwork is clear now :)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: what have you found you are sensitive to?
    Eliza Madrigal: stress, sugar
    Eliza Madrigal: heat
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Eliza Madrigal: which doesn't mean I don't have a wicked sweet tooth
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :P
    Eliza Madrigal: I try not to say no to anything... but to stay within limits :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Anyway, what Connie spoke of was illuminating
    Lucinda Lavender: interesting..
    Eliza Madrigal: she has real clarity about 'who' she is hearing from, whereas I often have not
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: only sometimes
    Eliza Madrigal: I got the impression that many of us are talking about the same 'thing' when we think about 'where' guidence comes from,etc...
    Lucinda Lavender: well if you bring a dream with one of the characters I am imagining that there might be more information that will come out of the circle experience...
    Eliza Madrigal: topography of the sub/unconscious... the collective... 'higher self' etc
    Eliza Madrigal: if we arent married to our words and terms, there is a lot of overlap?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: some may think it's something other, maybe, like god
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure or gods
    Eliza Madrigal: or god's messengers
    Lucinda Lavender: I hear the word higher self and imaging that it is the spiritual living part of self
    Eliza Madrigal: or friends from past lives... or, or...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) yes
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods... yes I tend to think in meditative terms... insight in many forms
    Lucinda Lavender: I try not to exclude but to allow the possibilities
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: even when I have serious questions ...
    Eliza Madrigal: Indeed!
    Eliza Madrigal: flexibility
    Lucinda Lavender: like how could the stars have a story...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles @ Lucinda
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes
    Lucinda Lavender: I am not an astrologer but have allowed myself to hear dreams through the lenses for the purpose of seeing more.
    Lucinda Lavender: then dropping

    Zaldaan Sirnah: To truly know something mustn't you become one with it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm sure they do, although it may not be something 'we' can understand
    Eliza Madrigal: right, pointers of pointers of pointers... and yes all to be dropped... which is I think the definition of holding lightly.
    Eliza Madrigal: Interesting question Zaldaan... what do you think?

    Zaldaan Sirnah: I think the harmony must be there -- the two must overlap. Not through dimensions, but without distance.
    Eliza Madrigal: (what drops is perhaps the hold-er anyway?)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, without distance... yes...
    Zaldaan Sirnah: the two must have one centrality
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nonlocal being
    Eliza Madrigal: if they do though, they do... mmm... absolute...
    Eliza Madrigal: not something to become?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs and thinks -- if it can be thought of, it's not absolute
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    Eliza Madrigal: thoughts themselves are the appearance of distance/movement/reflections/projections... ?
    Eliza Madrigal: like my thought right now "I am hungry" :)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been using that word a bit lately 'absolutely!' like I know what that means
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I want to go look at the art thingy and then have some stuff to do too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: well, yes... like where does 'insight' come from.... not quite the same as 'thought'...
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, I want to check the square too... then raid the cabinets :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it can follow thought
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Want to follow us over zaldaan?
    Eliza Madrigal: see what guardians are working on?
    Zaldaan Sirnah: in sim?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yup

    Here Lucinda, Sharon, Zaldaan, and I head over to the Village Square, in which there are quite a few photos of time displayed! We continue our talk in the circle there... self-care, diets, food, oatmeal dreams ...     

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