2010.06.13 01:00 - let be beat flow

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    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Qt Core: hi all
    Stargate Tone: Good morning Qt *
    Moon Fargis: morning qt :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: guten morgen, hyvää huomenta , buongiorno
    Stargate Tone: woooooow
    Stargate Tone: guten morgen Yaku ***
    Qt Core: ;)
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Moon Fargis: morning yakuza
    Stargate Tone: guten morgen Bert *
    Yakuzza Lethecus: manbo!

     

    * as soon manbo! is sayd, all who wear a manbo stick will dance and play a rythm song*

     

    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Yakuzza Lethecus: morgen bert :)
    Qt Core: hi Bertram
    Moon Fargis: hi bert:)
    Moon Fargis: testing atm a bit around :)
    Bertram Jacobus: manbo!
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Bertram Jacobus: manbo!
    Bertram Jacobus: manbo!
    Stargate Tone: smiles *
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Bertram Jacobus: stop
    Moon Fargis: manbo!
    Moon Fargis: yaaaahhh :)
    Bertram Jacobus: heheee :-)
    Moon Fargis: stop :)
    Bertram Jacobus: stop ? ;-)
    Moon Fargis: stooooop
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Moon Fargis: stop
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Bertram Jacobus: on
    Moon Fargis: aaaha
    Bertram Jacobus: yep ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: on
    Bertram Jacobus: moon is totally syncron with me ... :-)
    Moon Fargis: cus i got the beat :)
    Bertram Jacobus: great man ! ... ;o)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: off
    Stargate Tone: on
    Stargate Tone: wooooooooow
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe :-))
    Bertram Jacobus: poor qt ! ... ;-)
    Moon Fargis: off
    Moon Fargis: onigokko
    Moon Fargis: stop
    Bertram Jacobus: is there a difference from onigokko to onigokko_shippo ?
    Moon Fargis: ahno
    Yakuzza Lethecus: mousetail :)
    Bertram Jacobus: okay :-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: or rat :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes !
    Moon Fargis: onigokko
    Yakuzza Lethecus: qt do you wait for the info from that japanese spacedrone ?
    Moon Fargis: stop
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Qt Core: no, i just don't really like to dance, rl or sl
    Bertram Jacobus doesn´t like tails so much, exept as na'vi (!) ... ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: does pandora still exist ?
    Bertram Jacobus: "sure" - and even - many ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: but the one where i began ... it´s an intersting topic (!) :
    Qt Core: once the vase is open you casn't close it ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe ;-)
    Qt Core: i still wonder at the name choice
    Stargate Tone: U pls share Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: they had to reduce the sims from 4 to one to get it paid in the long run and i helped "a bit" to find to such a solution i would say -
    Bertram Jacobus: "side effect is" :
    Bertram Jacobus: that i got a role where i can write notecards to the group of that pandora and have with that most other rights, too and
    --BELL--
    Moon Fargis: (brrRR)
    Zaldaan Sirnah: afk
    Moon Fargis: hi zalda
    Bertram Jacobus: there are much more then 2000 people in the group and only 6 people who have such rights - that is an intersting feeling i can report and people act differently with one when they know. most i´m able to hide that ... but i feel thios so to say power nevertheless (!) ...
    Qt Core: hi Zaldaan
    Yakuzza Lethecus: all the news are calling secondlife as being dying since they fired those 100 employees
    Bertram Jacobus: and for sure - when i act there , i always try to do taht - as ever - in service to the enlightenment ...
    Moon Fargis: ahyes the more power one got hte more light his mind gets about his actions
    Bertram Jacobus: and to be able to reach in this way at a time more then 2000 people ... as i said in the beginning : is interesting - not only to me i think ...
    Qt Core: and making interesting moves like focusing on voiuce camuflage for the next viewer release...
    Moon Fargis: morning darren
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello zaldaan
    Moon Fargis: voice camouflage ?
    Darren Islar: hi everyone :)
    Qt Core: or distortion, as you prefer
    Qt Core: hi darren
    Stargate Tone: Hello Zaldaan and Darren
    Bertram Jacobus: hi zeldan and darren
    Darren Islar: ah, was wondering what happened to the flowers :)
    Moon Fargis: we had a short winter :)
    Darren Islar: heheeh
    Qt Core: read here, moon: http://blogs.secondlife.com/communit...voice-morphing
    Bertram Jacobus: and about the name ... i wonder about that, too qt ...
    Bertram Jacobus: i never saw you before here zeldann - were you alredy here before ? :-)
    Moon Fargis: aaah intresting
    Moon Fargis: manny roleplayers shall use it as uhm
    Moon Fargis: dunno :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: zaldaan was here relative often during the last week
    Moon Fargis: maybe not much might use it :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah okay - ty yaku :-)
    Qt Core: useful for people having an av with a different gender than their rl one
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes qt !
    Darren Islar: wellinteresting to me
    Moon Fargis: well i think you will hear it
    Bertram Jacobus: hi cal :-)
    Stargate Tone: Hello Calvino *
    Darren Islar: but I first want stability
    Moon Fargis: morning cal
    Darren Islar: too much crashes
    Darren Islar: hi Cal :)
    Qt Core: or just for making people with bad accents completly ununderstandable ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Moon Fargis: ah wel i stck with emerald :)
    Calvino Rabeni: good morning :)
    Qt Core: hi Cal
    Darren Islar: use Emerald for building, 2.0 for Voice
    Yakuzza Lethecus: emerald is also fine for voice
    Moon Fargis: dows voice not work with emerald for you ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not as stylish but functional for those who don´t care
    Darren Islar: well not really well, need to log off if I need to change the settings
    Yakuzza Lethecus: anyone tested kristens ?
    Moon Fargis: nope
    Darren Islar: kristens?
    Bertram Jacobus: i only used emerald and 2.0 so far ...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s a modified 2.0 viewer
    Darren Islar: never heard of
    Moon Fargis: hmm you heard about that LL will fire almost 30% of their stuff?
    Moon Fargis: staf
    Moon Fargis: staff
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: no. why ?
    Darren Islar: not good news
    Moon Fargis: to get more "flexible" they say
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hm - are they "too hungry" ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: the smile is *ironic*
    Moon Fargis: governor linden send a emeil
    Yakuzza Lethecus: towards the flixiblity
    Moon Fargis: A Message from M Linden Greetings, Yesterday was a challenging but historic and important day for Linden Lab. We undertook a strategic restructuring to strengthen our business and enable us to move faster and with more focus on the things that matter. While it will have important ramifications down the line for Second Life, rest assured that there are no fundamental changes planned to our experience or platform, and that both the company and the inworld economy remain in a very strong position. Our decision to restructure the company was based on our feeling that we were moving too slowly on important strategic initiatives, so we have decided to consolidate software development in the US and combine our product and technology organizations into one. We have also streamlined customer support so that it can scale economically as we add users. These decisions resulted in significant job eliminations and this tends to be what press and bloggers focus on because of the human dimension. It is indeed difficult f
    Moon Fargis: or us to see our colleagues leaving. I am writing to you directly because I want you to know that Second Life – and Linden Lab itself – is in very good shape. As a company, Linden Lab remains financially very stable. Our balance sheet is strong and we are well-capitalized. We will close this year with record revenue and hopefully record users, and – with your help – record user-to-user transactions and record landmass. In May, we recorded more than 1 million logged-in Residents, 37 million user hours, US$52.8 million in user-to-user transactions and 31,800 enabled regions. Second Life is sound. As a platform for the world's most robust virtual economy, Second Life remains as vibrant and healthy as ever. By bringing new people to Second Life, and by increasing the ways in which people can interact with the world and with the people, places, and things within it, we are paving the way for more growth. We remain committed to supporting and improving the SL Marketplace, to pushing forward on IP protection, and to growing the number of Residents that participate in the inworld economy. It is during times like this that partnerships are tested an
    Moon Fargis: ion, and to growing the number of Residents that participate in the inworld economy. It is during times like this that partnerships are tested and I – as CEO – want you to know that we value our partnership with you and that Second Life and Linden Lab are solid. This kind of transition is difficult for any company, but it need not be difficult for our customers. Our restructuring leaves Linden Lab in a stronger position; Second Life remains the creative and inspiring platform it always has been. Best regards, M Linden
    Moon Fargis: eehh ok and now for the pab listener:
    Moon Fargis: A Message from M Linden Greetings, Yesterday was a challenging but historic and important day for Linden Lab. We undertook a strategic restructuring to strengthen our business and enable us to move faster and with more focus on the things that matter. While it will have important ramifications down the line for Second Life, rest assured that there are no fundamental changes planned to our experience or platform, and that both the company and the inworld economy remain in a very strong position. Our decision to restructure the company was based on our feeling that we were moving too slowly on important strategic initiatives, so we have decided to consolidate software development in the US and combine our product and technology organizations into one. We have also streamlined customer support so that it can scale economically as we add users. These decisions resulted in significant job eliminations and this tends to be what press and bloggers focus on because of the human dimension. It is indeed difficult f
    Moon Fargis: or us to see our colleagues leaving.
    Moon Fargis: I am writing to you directly because I want you to know that Second Life – and Linden Lab itself – is in very good shape. As a company, Linden Lab remains financially very stable. Our balance sheet is strong and we are well-capitalized. We will close this year with record revenue and hopefully record users, and – with your help – record user-to-user transactions and record landmass. In May, we recorded more than 1 million logged-in Residents, 37 million user hours, US$52.8 million in user-to-user transactions and 31,800 enabled regions. Second Life is sound. As a platform for the world's most robust virtual economy, Second Life remains as vibrant and healthy as ever. By bringing new people to Second Life, and by increasing the ways in which people can interact with the world and with the people, places, and things within it, we are paving the way for more growth. We remain committed to supporting and improving the SL Marketplace, to pushing forward on IP protection, and to growing the number of Resi
    Moon Fargis: dents that participate in the inworld economy. It is during times like this that partnerships are tested and I – as CEO – want you to know that we value our partnership with you and that Second Life and Linden Lab are solid. This kind of transition is difficult for any company, but it need not be difficult for our customers. Our restructuring leaves Linden Lab in a stronger position; Second Life remains the creative and inspiring platform it always has been. Best regards, M Linden
    Moon Fargis: meep
    Moon Fargis: ok 13l etters are ok :)
    --BELL--
    Bertram Jacobus: hmm - i´m wondering sometimes, why people seemingly can not be content with a situation which simply works and can be called good or okay . so often changes are made which i find unneccessairy ...
    Moon Fargis: well now since LL having less working power theym ight be faster ... hmhm hmhmh
    Moon Fargis:
    Qt Core: that's depend, have they really fired the bad ones ?
    Moon Fargis: no idea :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and to share the goods with many i prefere also , not concentrate all what is gained only to few
    Qt Core: or did the good ones went away ?
    Bertram Jacobus: your surrounding contains autumn colours moon (?) ;o)
    Qt Core: that is not the standard shareholders way of thinking, bert
    Moon Fargis: yes its a spring autumn meadow :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i think, we will have no consequences in the normal sl user life ...
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - no summer meadow available ? ;-)
    Darren Islar: brb
    Moon Fargis: sure
    Bertram Jacobus: great ! ty ! :-))
    Qt Core: more user support duty shifted to sl users , maybe (with the wiki and all that) ?
    Bertram Jacobus: may be - but i ... don´t use all that, nearly not ... hm
    Moon Fargis: wich support?
    Qt Core: ;)
    Moon Fargis: aslong youre not a preium user you must be overlucky to get a answer to your support ticket
    Bertram Jacobus: i don´t need any support ... luckily - all fine to me here
    Qt Core: i was thinking about simpler issues, mentor class questions
    Qt Core: mentor class, nice name for a family of spaceship scientific oriented, obviusly ;-)
    Moon Fargis: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i live more as a consumer here, not on the administrative side of sl - and can say : that works very well - ty to all who make that possible ! ...
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Moon Fargis: hmm seems my rl calls me now ..... moving work.... anyway was niceto see you all and have a nice day ^^
    Bertram Jacobus: bye moon same same
    Qt Core: bye Moon, have a nice day
    Moon Fargis: ^^/
    Bertram Jacobus: star ? currently with us ? ;-)
    Stargate Tone: Yes I am
    Bertram Jacobus: what does moon mean with "moving work" ? do you know ? :-)
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; exactly moving *
    Bertram Jacobus: he changes his flat / house / places where he lives ?
    Stargate Tone: as his bro moves out and he moves to them rooms where he's bro lived
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - whaow - is that in the house or away from his current pklace ?
    Stargate Tone: Moon moves inside the house but he need to help his bro to move out at first
    Bertram Jacobus: ah i see ... ty ! :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: so he won´t have a better inet connection ... ;-)
    Stargate Tone: so; for Moon to move in is easy cuz he moves to bigger area
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. great :-)
    Stargate Tone: well...not the base, but he's bro shall not share it anymore , so; in a way better
    --BELL--
    Bertram Jacobus: ah okay ! :-)
    Darren Islar: what means 'bro'
    Bertram Jacobus: brother
    Darren Islar: ah :)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Bertram Jacobus: <3
    Darren Islar: okay reading back, I finally understood :)
    Qt Core: it toke me months to get what the "less than three" sign meens, my first ipothesys... a fallen icecream... but what that would mean ?
    Stargate Tone: :)*
    Bertram Jacobus smiles at darren ! ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: fallen icecream !? can´t recognize that (??) ... ;o)
    Darren Islar: this is the session of questionmarks
    Stargate Tone: 'sad thing' comes to star's mind for such
    Darren Islar: what do you mean with less than three?
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe - i love to ask and to answer ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: this one darren : <3
    Qt Core: question mark are much more useful than exclamation point
    Stargate Tone: hm
    Bertram Jacobus: i disagree qt - or - could you expülain why plz perhaps ? :-)
    Stargate Tone: to star that sign means 'heart' = love
    Calvino Rabeni: ?!
    Bertram Jacobus: same here star ...
    Darren Islar: ah, less then three, get it yes
    Bertram Jacobus: yess :-)
    Stargate Tone: ***<3<3<3***
    Stargate Tone: = many things, but basicly this;
    Stargate Tone: *I understand and love your words/thoughts*
    Qt Core: a question is useful to expand knowledge, a full stop can end the answer to that question, but an exclamation point usually stop futher investigation
    Darren Islar: yes, I noticed the icecream too :))
    Bertram Jacobus: lol - icecream - okay : now i can see it too (!) ;-))
    Bertram Jacobus: two balls eh ? ;-)
    Stargate Tone: **
    Stargate Tone: but the first time I heared that now from Qt
    Qt Core: lemon or cinammon and strawberry, please ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: hmmm, need a symbol for "grok U"
    Darren Islar: grok U?
    Bertram Jacobus: looked it up in my dictionary : = got ya, understood
    Bertram Jacobus: ! ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok
    Darren Islar: thanks Cal
    Darren Islar: strange session this is for me
    Darren Islar: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and - qt - i love sometimes "the ends of investigations" - therefore question- and exclamationmarks ... hm - may be eevn i like the exclamation marks more (!) ... ;-)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nice sunday everyone
    Stargate Tone: -> Darren; oh ...
    Bertram Jacobus: same for you yaku
    Darren Islar: bye Yaku (for the record)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello/Goodbye Yakusan :)
    Stargate Tone: *grins*
    Stargate Tone: Yaku is so quick always
    Bertram Jacobus: yes ! ;-)
    Stargate Tone: hm...Darren...
    Stargate Tone: have u had some certain kind of sessions normally ?
    Darren Islar: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: :))
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Stargate Tone: would U mind to share what kind they have been then ?
    Bertram Jacobus: manbo!
    Darren Islar: I don't know if I understand the question
    Bertram Jacobus: stop
    Darren Islar: like a lot of PaB sessions are I guess
    Stargate Tone: [1:55] Darren Islar: strange session this is for me
    Darren Islar: ah, yes: I normally don't need to put in so many questionmarks :)
    Stargate Tone: ahhh
    Bertram Jacobus: interesting ...
    Darren Islar: I feel a bit like a stranger now :)
    Stargate Tone: *giggles*
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - nooo
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: we're strangers in a strange land
    Stargate Tone: pls get landed back among us *
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Qt Core: back to the roots of the word grook then ;-)
    Qt Core: grok
    Darren Islar: we had a strange one yesterday too, about contemplating about fish that don't close their eyes
    Stargate Tone: looooool
    Stargate Tone: 'cute'
    Qt Core: must read that log
    Darren Islar: had a lot of questionmarks then too, but in that case only in my head :))
    Stargate Tone: might star be getting hungry cuz thoughts of fishes occured to my mind as food *
    Stargate Tone: ahh
    Bertram Jacobus: i like it, when we can ask in free way - appreciate that VERY much
    Qt Core: question mark and fish....¿
    Darren Islar: well fish seem to have personalities, but the one that said that, is eating them anyway
    Stargate Tone: and thought how some ppl takes them fishe's eyes to be the best part of the fish to eat *
    Bertram Jacobus: hmmm - there ARE contradictions in our lives ...
    Stargate Tone: well...koi is such fish that star might not be able to eat...if knows that the food is made of him...
    Stargate Tone: cuz they r angels to star...
    Stargate Tone: but star loves also guinean pigs and knows them to be good food to some people
    Stargate Tone: as well star loves bunnies specially...but have once eaten such...
    Calvino Rabeni: I can't eat any fish that looks at me from the water
    Calvino Rabeni: and acts friendly
    Darren Islar: :)
    Stargate Tone: but donno if I could have a bunny farm and yet eat them...but it's been must to huge many ppl I know
    Stargate Tone: but that's how human is 'builded'; to eat almost everything
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - dear pab friends - i´ll leave - thank you so much for your companionship ! and have a nice time plz - all beings ... ;-)
    Darren Islar: yes, but unlike other animals, we can make choices that changes our lives
    Qt Core: if it was breed to be eat i don't have problems, horses, dogs, maybe even insects, i will try them all
    Stargate Tone: enjoy Bert *
    Darren Islar: bye Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: manbo!
    Calvino Rabeni: be well Bert
    Qt Core: byer bert
    Calvino Rabeni: every day I eat billions of creatures - yogurt. is that wrong :)
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; star believes to freedom
    Stargate Tone: loooool
    Darren Islar: true Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: And they live inside me by billions also
    Darren Islar: but those are hard to rull out
    Calvino Rabeni: I am home to billions
    Darren Islar: some things you can't change, some things you can
    Stargate Tone: well; many ppl have told me that they dont eat flesh cuz they dont dare to eat beings that lived,,,yet...as even them stones do live
    Darren Islar: and I am comfortable with people eating meat
    Darren Islar: but when you realize they have personalities, I wonder how that works in your mind
    Qt Core: for the first time in my life i briefly considered the idea og going vegetarian
    Qt Core: this week
    Calvino Rabeni: Even if they are eaten, they should have a happy life first
    Darren Islar: briefly is a start :)
    Stargate Tone: well; like I said; donno if I could eat bunnies which I'de growed in farm...
    Stargate Tone: well; vegetables are so much eaten as alive; animals we at first kill...
    Qt Core: i just heard about a UN document on how "green" it wiull be, how much resource it will save
    Stargate Tone: and I often thank the spirit of the animal whos' flesh I eat...
    Darren Islar: yes, it is expansive in many ways
    Darren Islar: well, I think it is the eating the meat without consideration that I can't fit in my head
    Qt Core: now i have to go... cooking some meat for lunch
    Darren Islar: loving pets to death at the same time
    Stargate Tone: well...think that there´s more to save also nature if resolves the pollution of trafik ...
    Darren Islar: bye QT :)
    Stargate Tone: enjoy Qt *
    Qt Core: bye all, have fun
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
    Darren Islar: true Start but one doesn't exclude the other
    Darren Islar: you know to me it is like that it might deserve some thought
    Darren Islar: instead of doing what we learned to do without asking questions
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Darren Islar: to me that is the main part
    --BELL--
    Stargate Tone: well...tried to keep my mouth...but...as what I was teached turned to be my learning also by all of the ppl I know having probs to eat meat...
    Stargate Tone: they all have/had probs with their sexuality
    Darren Islar: hmmmmm
    Darren Islar: pondering
    Stargate Tone: and to star that's huge prob in human life
    Stargate Tone: there's soooo many illnessis that comes for that
    Belphegor Bohannes: can i join
    Stargate Tone: pls feel free
    Darren Islar: sure Bel
    Stargate Tone: Pab is open to all
    Stargate Tone: (even to me)
    Darren Islar: ??
    Darren Islar: First time you are here ?
    Belphegor Bohannes: yes
    Darren Islar: I will give you a notecard, so you can read what this place is all about
    Belphegor Bohannes: cool thanks
    Stargate Tone: wanna thank U Bel for sitting next to Cal; not somewhere 'making' the hole to our half circle :)***
    Belphegor Bohannes: your welcome
    Stargate Tone: ah btw
    Darren Islar: I don't know Star, maybe you're right
    Stargate Tone: one zen story comes to my mind, but I dont remember them titels for sure, but the issue
    Darren Islar: but I can also imagine that people who ask questions about eating meat also ask questions about almost everything
    Stargate Tone: well...that sure is true at least some of such ppl *
    Darren Islar: that can make you feel kind of lost trying to find new answers
    Stargate Tone: Ur very
    Stargate Tone: right with that too
    Stargate Tone: many times it's so that when one gets one answer, there's 'millions' new questions rising
    Darren Islar: Bel, we record those meetings and pusblish them on our wiki
    Stargate Tone: that's such 'certain step' one takes on one's path to enlightment
    Darren Islar: can we include your name?
    Darren Islar: I mean is that okay for you?
    Stargate Tone: meaning also Ur words *
    Belphegor Bohannes: sure you can i would love it
    Darren Islar: okay, thanks :)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; this story...
    Stargate Tone: as the monk went to the master and said;
    Stargate Tone: "when I meditate, I feel sooo bad"
    Stargate Tone: the master said;
    Stargate Tone: "It shall change"
    Stargate Tone: a while after this monk went to the master and said;
    Stargate Tone: "when I meditate, I feel sooo happy"
    Stargate Tone: the master said;
    Stargate Tone: "It shall change"
    Stargate Tone: end of the story
    Darren Islar: :)
    Darren Islar: some people go for the good parts in the meditation
    Darren Islar: what they consider to be 'good'
    Stargate Tone: and that if something is various 'thing' :)***
    Stargate Tone: ah yes; star never have wanted to dive to the missery, but have heared many men to experience that it's 'the must' , that it has the purpose
    Stargate Tone: and many men has asked me not to give their pain away ....not that I'de evern taken anything from anybody, but they have yet thought so saying that
    Stargate Tone: but learning me more they have not said so
    Stargate Tone: anyways; thought a lot of that
    Stargate Tone: that can it be something that men does...
    Stargate Tone: as no woman have but asked me to help their pains off...
    --BELL--
    Calvino Rabeni: an interesting difference
    Stargate Tone: or is it 'just' male way to do so more 'planning/knowingly'
    Darren Islar: I don't quite get the essence I'm afraid
    Stargate Tone: well; so often I've pondered ppls ways...as there is more difference to be a male or the female that concerning sexuality...meaning them body parts....that they are the 'minor' difference
    Stargate Tone: ah well; these 'stories' just came to my mind when you spoke of to make changes in our life
    Zaldaan Sirnah: oh?
    Stargate Tone: as I never have been able to make any changes, but there's not been much else but changes in my own life
    Stargate Tone: but like it's within almost everything, that I 'dont do anything'...just let things to happen and do my best that I'de fill my ment doings/missions
    Stargate Tone: how ever one thinks
    Stargate Tone: ...as there's the teaching in buddhism...in which I sure am, but dont 'sign' it, that there is no missions to anybody ...so...I myself have different way to think
    Stargate Tone: as to me each human has at least some missions; if not more but for one's self :)***
    Stargate Tone: and yes Darren; there's much such been and is, that I'de truly wish to change very quickly; all painfull things
    Darren Islar: I feel most comfortable with the Buddhist way, but can't deny having a feel of mission :)
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Darren Islar: it is so hard to let that aspect go, for it feels so fullfilling
    Stargate Tone: *indeed*
    Zaldaan Sirnah: If we let it go, are we then finally just "be"'ing?
    Darren Islar: well I think it is part of it
    Zaldaan Sirnah: And if that's the case, then where is the do'ing / accomplishing of that thing which we feel we want to do?
    Darren Islar: but I have no real knowledge of how that would be, so hard to say
    Moon Fargis: rehi my friends:)
    Stargate Tone: ah yes...I'de say that I am only 'be'ing...mostly...
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Or is that thing a shallow desire to which we are sensitive, and not a part of our true identity"
    Moon Fargis: seems it was faster then i thought
    Darren Islar: wb Moon
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Moon
    Calvino Rabeni: WB :)
    Stargate Tone: wb <3
    Belphegor Bohannes: hi moon
    Moon Fargis: ah hi bal
    Moon Fargis: bel
    Stargate Tone: well...can we ever be but part of our true identity ?
    Moon Fargis: *slurps his cold tea*
    Darren Islar: I think it is a desire that is part of ego, so not part of our 'identity' what that ever may be
    Darren Islar: but let me put the emphasis on 'I think'
    Zaldaan Sirnah: "You've chosen non-existence" said the Sufi master. I don't want to choose non-existence
    Stargate Tone: oh woooooooow Zaldaan
    Stargate Tone: I 'never' feel better than when I feel myself 'not-to-exist'....
    Darren Islar: that is the feeling everyone gets, when talking about those kind of things
    Darren Islar: that si where ego feels threatened
    Stargate Tone: pls notice them marks with the word 'never'
    Darren Islar: let me see if I have a wintercoat :)
    Moon Fargis: hmm:)
    Moon Fargis: The Prime Minister of the Tang Dynasty was a national hero for his success as both a statesman and military leader. But despite his fame, power, and wealth, he considered himself a humble and devout Buddhist. Often he visited his favorite Zen master to study under him, and they seemed to get along very well. The fact that he was prime minister apparently had no effect on their relationship, which seemed to be simply one of a revered master and respectful student. One day, during his usual visit, the Prime Minister asked the master, "Your Reverence, what is egotism according to Buddhism?" The master's face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, "What kind of stupid question is that!?" This unexpected response so shocked the Prime Minister that he became sullen and angry. The Zen master then smiled and said, "THIS, Your Excellency, is egotism."
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I've been nothing for years -- yet I am -- so there is conflict.
    Zaldaan Sirnah: Oh, I learned that on the 3rd day with the Sufi master
    Stargate Tone: ahh; sory; to me to not-exist is not to be nothing
    Darren Islar: feeling nothing is different then 'being'
    Stargate Tone: to me not-to-exist if to be in the most wide and deep connection to 'all that is'
    --BELL--
    Stargate Tone: like I could hold all lovely existences in my own lap; share my love and shelter everything from bad things
    Moon Fargis: ahyes theats usually nothingness, the ego seperates us a one , when we are nothing means more that the ego is put quiet for a while and we see throught it. Then we might realize that we are a leaf on a tree
    Stargate Tone: bad thins are such that captures existing life not to live
    Darren Islar: sorry, wrong move :)
    Darren Islar: took the folder instead of the clothing
    Zaldaan Sirnah: but what should this body do
    Moon Fargis: wich body?
    Darren Islar: (like the hair though)
    Stargate Tone: what ever the moment requers :)**
    Zaldaan Sirnah: if you become that nothing, and therefore all that remains is all that can be, then what are you doing?
    Stargate Tone: 'nothing'
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I don't mean a mental/spiritual practice -- I mean a practical daily 24/7 ongoing experience
    Darren Islar: you never becom 'nothing', that doesn't exist
    Moon Fargis: thats the point we stick with words wich are vague
    Moon Fargis: emptyness
    Moon Fargis: nothingness
    Moon Fargis: nothingless
    Stargate Tone: ah well; there's so many answers to that question, that no libraries could hold them books
    Darren Islar: emptyness and nothingness aren't the same
    Moon Fargis: well was just a example of the vaguer words :)
    Moon Fargis: vague
    Stargate Tone: so I answered the base that I dont experience that I'de do anything...just let my body to do if needed to exactly do something
    Zaldaan Sirnah: "If someone is going to cut themselves with a knife, and you don't stop them, you're not human", our teacher said
    Moon Fargis: we try to explain the shape of clouds with words then to paint it down and express the beauty
    Darren Islar: sounds right to me Zal
    Stargate Tone: well; that's only something he said ; is it true; that one decides by one's self to believe
    Moon Fargis: and one gets wet when standing in rain :)
    Darren Islar: wow, this hair is familiar :))))
    Calvino Rabeni: to try to explain something in words is to worship it by bringing it down to a human sphere of concern
    Stargate Tone: if somebody I know would be in such pain that only cutting with knife is the resolt, I sure wouldn't stop him/her...
    Stargate Tone: as I try to honour each one's choice as far I ever can ...if I dont feel the call to try to advise one to behave an other way
    Moon Fargis: calvino, but then onem ust be verry away what he says cus any expression of the unexpressionable is a missleading , like, Zen is...... this and that, or enlightment is......this and that
    Darren Islar: ah yes, every situation has its own answer
    Moon Fargis: one may discribe some results that happen often sure
    Darren Islar: it all depends on context
    Darren Islar: wb Yaku
    Moon Fargis: wb yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx :)
    Moon Fargis: manbo
    Moon Fargis: manbo!
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Darren Islar: I don't know how you do it, but you just made another box
    Zaldaan Sirnah: I can't tell the direction of the call... I turn my head and it sounds like it's coming from multiple places
    Moon Fargis: yeaa thats expession :)
    Stargate Tone: pls Yaku take the place where U was sitting *
    Yakuzza Lethecus: no
    Yakuzza Lethecus: stop
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i didn´t know that there are still ppl here :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i wust checking who´s online right now :)
    Moon Fargis: we are :)
    Stargate Tone: /}
    Stargate Tone: _/|\_
    Moon Fargis: so manny people trying to find themself trhought others....
    Darren Islar: (didn't know I had so many different kind of hairs; being totally abosrbed with himself at the moment :))
    Stargate Tone: well...I heared already as the verrry little girl, that when you know Urself, you know all the other ppl too....
    Stargate Tone: so to me it's opposite...
    Moon Fargis: yes and thats the way it should be
    Moon Fargis: know youself to know others
    Moon Fargis: and not know others to know yourself
    Stargate Tone: ah; it's sooo healthy to be abosrbed with one's self now and then :)****
    Stargate Tone: (Moon has teached me a lof of that)
    --BELL--
    Stargate Tone: ahhhh
    Moon Fargis: ^^ i just ponderung about the paradox of the socity that people search themself in others who dont even know who they are and searching themself also in others
    Stargate Tone: I so much would've liked to be known :)****
    Darren Islar: :) Moon
    Stargate Tone: but that might be something impossible to aybody
    Stargate Tone: ah yes Moon; but that's what's mostly happening among ppl...the most common way of human
    Moon Fargis: i now the whole church is baed on it :)
    Moon Fargis: based
    Moon Fargis: know
    Stargate Tone: and so many ppl 'make masters' of other people who donno anything of one's true life/needs
    Darren Islar: (ah, me again :))
    Stargate Tone: well; there's much so young spirits also living as the human being that truly wants and needs 'masters' from other people
    Moon Fargis: *sneezes
    Stargate Tone: so nothing such that would be only good or bad...depends on so many ...hm...contexts ?
    Darren Islar: (speaking of being familiar with your own looks, even identifying you, if you don't watch it :))
    Moon Fargis: brr got cold now
    Moon Fargis: well its born into humans that they search the alpha monkey
    Darren Islar is talking to himself, having his own discussion :))
    Moon Fargis: :)
    Stargate Tone: well...we all are able to read Ur lines Darren :)***
    Darren Islar: :)))
    Darren Islar: talking out loud to myself :)
    Stargate Tone: *grins*
    Stargate Tone: we so often can learn that way too...well...sure only if we listen to what we say :)***
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Calvino Rabeni: :)))
    Moon Fargis: but theres a good side also that humans mostly teach stuff they dont even do and want others be better then themself
    Calvino Rabeni: true
    Moon Fargis: but meaning like moral teachings
    Calvino Rabeni: it represents hope?
    Darren Islar: I think the main thing is to be careful with what you think
    Moon Fargis: ohyes that might be
    Stargate Tone: *giggles* ; thinks that commersial again in which them monks r sitting on the mountain and one thinks; 'Oh if I could at least think alone'
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: dunno it :)
    Moon Fargis: ah my RL calls me for a few minutes
    Moon Fargis: but i will elave a little story behind:
    Stargate Tone: ah yes Darren; that's also such that I've so much thought...that might it be huge much more easy for men to controll their thoughts...but...how right that is...
    Moon Fargis: A scientist, a Christ and a Buddhist standing on a meadow infront of a Apple tree, as a wind came up a Apple felt down. "AHH" The scientist says "Look! Gravitiy!" "NO Look!" The Christ says "God gave us Food with this nice Apple!" The buddhist grabs the apple, and eats it completley infront of them, then he turns to them both and askes "What apple?"
    Stargate Tone: (star only tries to turn sad thoughs upside down)
    Darren Islar: need to leave
    Stargate Tone: ah...but now star's body sais that she'de need some breakfast...(01:00 PM here)
    Stargate Tone: brb
    Stargate Tone: ah
    Stargate Tone: be well Darren *
    Darren Islar: bye everyone :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
    Belphegor Bohannes: bye
    Stargate Tone: brb
    --BELL--
    Belphegor Bohannes: alright guys gtg it was nice to meet all of you
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Calvino Rabeni: Sherlock Holmes and Watson were sleeping outdoors. Holmes looks up at the sky and says - see all those stars, Watson! What do you make of it? // Watson say - I see the millions of stars and reflect what a small place we humans have in God's Creation // Holmes said : No, Watson, you idiot ! Some bastard has stolen our tent !!
    Stargate Tone: b
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Moon Fargis: re
    Stargate Tone: loooooooool
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Stargate Tone: (mumsing the sandwich)
    Moon Fargis: *slurping the tea*
    Moon Fargis: ok seems we talked quiet long :)
    Moon Fargis: maybe a pause would be good
    Stargate Tone: or to talk without words *
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Moon Fargis: is meep a word ?
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep
    Stargate Tone: *nope*
    Moon Fargis: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Stargate Tone: **********
    Calvino Rabeni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meep
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Moon Fargis: and no word of roadrunner
    Moon Fargis: tststs
    Stargate Tone: oh wow; and no word of Moon or Fael from SL ;(
    Calvino Rabeni: wikipedia is for everyone to edit - someone should put in the roadrunner into that article
    Moon Fargis: lol
    Stargate Tone: star once tried to add something to wiki...dont try an other time
    Stargate Tone: but would add ab Moon and Fael if I'de know how to do that :)****
    Moon Fargis: hah
    --BELL--
    Moon Fargis: i think that information will be deleted because of not importantce
    Stargate Tone: oooooooooooh
    Stargate Tone: I've though that only hurting texts and lies would been deleted ...
    Calvino Rabeni: someone should put this link into the references section
    Calvino Rabeni: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Special:Search?search=meep&type=fulltext&go=Find
    Stargate Tone: how could anybody know the worth of genuin information ?
    Calvino Rabeni: sadly Star, wikipedia cannot work like that
    Calvino Rabeni: if there is valuable but uncommon knowledge, it can't go into wikipedia
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Calvino Rabeni: it has to be things known by many people and agreed on
    Stargate Tone: well...the info of Fael and Moon would be such :)***
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    Stargate Tone: there's much info of historical great persons; why not 'near history' wouldn't be accepted ?
    Stargate Tone: (been often sad also cuz so much ppl quote 'dead' persons not listening nowadays greate one's, not to mention own thoughts)
    Stargate Tone: well...like Arch sais sometimes something so well also...as he said how sad it's that ppl donno their archtypes....
    Stargate Tone: imo it's that ppl takes themself to be the outsider of huge many things they in fact r verrry deeply 'insiders'...
    Calvino Rabeni: yesssss
    Moon Fargis: well i think the best would be to be both
    Stargate Tone: ah; rl calls a bit
    Calvino Rabeni: @moon, yes
    Stargate Tone: re
    Moon Fargis: wb
    Calvino Rabeni: Star is still twinkling :)
    --BELL--
    Moon Fargis: ok i think ill retreat again :) wish you a nice day and see you soon ^^
    Stargate Tone: ty
    Stargate Tone: **
    Stargate Tone: ...might I also need to retreat for a while as afk
    Calvino Rabeni: Good day Moon :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Star sets also :)
    Stargate Tone: so wishing good night to You Cal and not knowing Ur time Zaldaan; enjoy Ur time *
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye, Stargate :)
    Stargate Tone: bye love *

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