2010.06.15 13:00 - Popper don't preach...

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments (such as they are) are by Agatha Macbeth.

    Wol Euler: hello aggers
    Agatha Macbeth: Well hello there
    Wol Euler waves
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm on the box again :)
    Wol Euler: you're looking very sportxy
    Wol Euler: -x
    Agatha Macbeth: xx :)
    Wol Euler: not quite sure if those are hte right shoes for soccer though :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, you're rezzing
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Wol Euler: brb, tea
    Wol Euler: hello yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Now where are the tops...
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Yaku
    Wol Euler: much better :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey beauty´s
    Wol Euler beams
    Yakuzza Lethecus: just as oon way through as usually
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh


    Agatha Macbeth: That's it!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Agatha, hi Wol
    Wol Euler: hello sharon
    Agatha Macbeth: How are you?
    Wol Euler: cheerful
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me?
    Agatha Macbeth: Either!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Wol Euler: hello liza
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Liza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: cheerful, and finally get to sit down in rl, yay :)
    Liza Deischer: hi
    Agatha Macbeth: The lady with the log...:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Liza
    Liza Deischer: it is Tuesday isn't it?
    Agatha Macbeth: (Nothing to do with Twin Peaks)
    Liza Deischer: yep, sorry need to go :)
    Agatha Macbeth waves
    Wol Euler: oooh, yes, great reference
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww bye Liza :)
    Wol Euler: bye liza, enjoy the day
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (look great btw!!)
    Wol Euler: I thought "log woman" but couldn't get to Twin Peaks
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't people work out what day it is before they get here?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha I forget a lot too
    Agatha Macbeth: Who killed Laura Palmer
    Wol Euler: Man, why does shit get repeated endlessly, but great programmes like Twin Peaks don't?
    Wol Euler: 42
    Agatha Macbeth: Y indeed?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe shit is just ubiquitous
    Agatha Macbeth: Or something...
    Agatha Macbeth: Wasn't Laura played by Suzi Quatro's neice, or was that someone else?
    SophiaSharon Larnia googles ubiquitous, and agrees ^^
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: You ok Zon?
    Zon Quar: hm
    Zon Quar: hard to say
    Agatha Macbeth: I know that feeling
    Wol Euler: hello zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb one sec :)
    Zon Quar: do i look starnge ?
    Agatha Macbeth zooms in
    Agatha Macbeth: No more than usual! :)
    Wol Euler: your eyebrows are a bit exaggerated
    Wol Euler: but otherwise I'd say no
    Zon Quar: let me see
    Agatha Macbeth: Eyes are very blue
    Zon Quar: true
    Wol Euler: wow, hello myna, haven't seen you in ages
    Agatha Macbeth: Hairy chest...
    Myna Maven: Yes, it's been a while.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Myna :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Myna
    Myna Maven: Hi Sophia, Agatha, Zon.
    Myna Maven: And Wol. :)
    Wol Euler: :)

    Zon stands up to edit his appearance

    Agatha Macbeth: (Now what's he up to?)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks Zons av looks great
    Agatha Macbeth: What is it we are supposed to notice I wonder?

    I begin to receive strange IMs from Kira...

    [2010/06/15 13:09]  Rhiannon Dragoone: Didn't get the notice about the Popper class, i could have re-arranged my own so as to not conflict
    [2010/06/15 13:10]  Wol Euler: oh right, there we are
    [2010/06/15 13:11]  Rhiannon Dragoone: yeah, conflict of schedule does neither group any good
    [2010/06/15 13:11]  Kiki Walpanheim: (popper is in philosophy class, or kira is having it too?)
    [2010/06/15 13:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: don't know, but that would explain why i didn't know; thought herman's was on Thurs
    [2010/06/15 13:12]  Rhiannon Dragoone: someone told me it was kira, kiki
    [2010/06/15 13:13]  Kiki Walpanheim: herman's class is on each tuesday as well as thursday, popper for tonight
    [2010/06/15 13:13]  Kiki Walpanheim: (or today)
    [2010/06/15 13:14]  Yakuzza Lethecus: i didn´t tell you that it´s on kira :)
    [2010/06/15 13:15]  Yakuzza Lethecus: i said: and i am on kira :)
    [2010/06/15 13:18]  Kiki Walpanheim: tho the alt is in philosophy class
    [2010/06/15 13:19]  Rhiannon Dragoone: well, all this explains why i am only 150% above the norm in attendence, rather than 400%  And i thought it was that i hadn't showered
    [2010/06/15 13:20]  Mickorod Renard: hello

    Agatha Macbeth: What's a Popper class?
    Myna Maven: I was wondering.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I stepped away for one sec and totally lost the thread ^^ Presently noticing dust particles floating through a sun beam
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Zon Quar: no. didnt find eybrows setting
    Zon Quar: must be content waht i have
    Agatha Macbeth: They look fine Zon
    Wol Euler: did someone say Popper Class? (other than agatha)
    Agatha Macbeth: Someone in IM
    Wol Euler: ah
    Myna Maven: Right. Saw it in the IM briefly.
    Agatha Macbeth: From Kira...
    Zon Quar: what class is it about ?
    Agatha Macbeth: I know not
    Wol Euler: probably Karl Popper, I'd guess
    Agatha Macbeth: ??
    Wol Euler: late british austrian philosopher
    Myna Maven: OK.
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, don't know him I'm afraid
    Myna Maven: Neither do I.
    Wol Euler: "He is widely regarded[3] as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century;[4] he also wrote extensively on social and political philosophy. Popper is known for his attempt to repudiate the classical observationalist/inductivist account of scientific method by advancing empirical falsification instead, for his opposition to the classical justificationist account of knowledge which he replaced with critical rationalism, "the first non justificational philosophy of criticism in the history of philosophy"[5], and for his vigorous defense of liberal democracy and the principles of social criticism that he came to believe made a flourishing "open society" possible."
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll give Birric or Gilles a ring about him :)
    Zon Quar: hm
    Zon Quar: too complicated
    Agatha Macbeth: Who's Herman?
    Agatha Macbeth: Munster?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles at Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: well, somebody appears not to know what they are talking about
    Agatha Macbeth: weird
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I know what the words mean, but put them together like that and my head wants to explode
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Whose class is it anyway?'
    Agatha Macbeth: :))
    Wol Euler: boom boom
    Agatha Macbeth: N. Korea just scored against Brasil
    Wol Euler struggles to contain her enthusiasm
    Zon Quar: so its 1-1 ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Still losing tho
    Agatha Macbeth: No, 2-1 Brasil
    Zon Quar: good


    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    Wol Euler: wow, bleu is very exotic today
    Myna Maven: Hi.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: As always :)
    Zon Quar: bleu
    Bleu Oleander: exotic is good :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: keep dressing like that and I'll have to start doing it too ^^ wow wow

    Me zooms in...

    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, I *love* that
    Agatha Macbeth: The hair's gorgeous too
    Bleu Oleander: cool, i'm glad you do ....ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, they wouldn't schedule something else at Kira at the same time as Dream Wokshop obviously (I would have thought)
    Agatha Macbeth shrugs
    Agatha Macbeth: Anyways...
    Bleu Oleander: is the dream workshop on now?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Myna
    Bleu Oleander: ah
    Wol Euler: hallo bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody :-)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Bert
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Bert
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Berti :)
    Zon Quar: bert
    Bleu Oleander: so the non-dreamers are here?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Myna :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Appears so
    Bertram Jacobus: me - yes . a non dreamer ;-)
    Myna Maven: Sorry. I was trying to get a closer look at Bleu and crashed. Am having problems with this.
    Wol Euler: oops
    Wol Euler: wb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a non-dreamer Bert?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww Myna
    Bleu Oleander: ooo caused a crash?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Qt
    Bertram Jacobus: hello myna and qt :-)
    Qt Core: hi all!
    Agatha Macbeth: Not dreaming as opposed to not doing
    Zon Quar: me too, i only dream with my eyes open
    Myna Maven: Hello Bertram.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: Buona sera QT :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i meaned : i don´t remember often my dreams and don´t go to this workshop ... ;-)
    Qt Core: 'sera Agatha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh ok Bert :))
    Agatha Macbeth: You seem the type to be a dreamer to me Bert ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: why do you think that agatha ? :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Just a hunch
    Agatha Macbeth: As Quasimodo said
    Wol Euler sighs
    Bertram Jacobus: hm - what may make a dreamer, what are the qualities ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dreaming?
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: and why does wol sigh (?!) :-)
    Wol Euler: asking questions
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh she does that all the time
    Wol Euler: it's true
    Wol Euler: but particularly when Aggers is airing out her old joke cupboard :-P
    Bertram Jacobus: what is true ? that dreamers ask questions ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to say somene is a dreamer, may say someone is someone is an idealist, I'm not saying thats what Agatha meant about you, Bert, but in general
    Agatha Macbeth: Do they?
    Agatha Macbeth: 'You may say I'm a dreamer'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: um that came out funny sorry
    Agatha Macbeth: But I'm not the only one
    Myna Maven: Over the years, I've a few times been confronted (I think, somewhat scornfully) the phrase, "Oh, an idealist!"
    Myna Maven: "with" the phrase
    Myna Maven: I recollect the first time, how odd that seeemed.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or a dreamer could be someone looking at only certain aspects of reality
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe it's considered a crime to have ideas
    Wol Euler: yeah
    Agatha Macbeth: True Shaz, yes
    Bleu Oleander: aspects of reality .... interesting phrase
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea awkward again, considering, what is reality anyway
    Agatha Macbeth thinks of the phrase 'can of worms'


    Bleu Oleander: saved by bell
    Zon Quar: mus away go c ya
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya zon
    Wol Euler: bye zon, take care
    Qt Core: bye Zon
    Myna Maven: Bye.
    Bleu Oleander: bye Zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zon :)
    Bertram Jacobus: bye zon (!) ... :-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Has everyone put up a picture in the Village then?
    Wol Euler: not yet
    Bertram Jacobus: no
    Qt Core: no
    Agatha Macbeth: Aw, I was looking forward to yours Bert :0
    Myna Maven: The Art of Being project? I saw it in an email but didn't have a chance to read about it.
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes Myna
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its much bigger than i thought yay!! So many added
    Myna Maven: Can someone brief me on it?
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Wol Euler: it's over there behind us, we can have a look later
    Agatha Macbeth: Well it's up in the Village Square if you wanna take alook
    Myna Maven: I'm not going to move right now. If I do, I will probably crash.
    Agatha Macbeth: In Storm's bubble :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Bertram Jacobus: my ... requirements are too intense i fear agatha - and so ... i don ´t put one ... hm ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, I see
    Agatha Macbeth: onigokko
    Bleu Oleander: sry afk .... back now .... thanks for bringing up the Being as Time project !
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahahhaa
    Agatha Macbeth: stop
    Bleu Oleander: is this friday?
    Agatha Macbeth: My pleasure Bleu :)
    Wol Euler turns down the sound to continue enjoying the Beatles' "Back in the USSR"
    Wol Euler: White Album FTW.
    Agatha Macbeth has it
    Bleu Oleander: Pema is leading a special session next monday at 2pm on the project
    Wol Euler: woooo
    Bleu Oleander: I hope you will all come
    Wol Euler: thanks for teh heads-up
    Bertram Jacobus: * * HATSCHI * *
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, looking forward to it
    Bertram Jacobus: (sry) :o)
    Agatha Macbeth: Do they make TVs?
    Bleu Oleander: (come even if you didn't do a photo)
    Agatha Macbeth: No, that's Hitachi
    Myna Maven: Reading one of the emails on it now. Will have to make it to the meeting and look at the photos.
    Agatha Macbeth: Please do :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, will be a lot of fun
    Qt Core: i wanted to ask, no explaining note card this time ?
    Bleu Oleander: for each photo you mean?
    Bleu Oleander: up to the artist to include one or not
    Qt Core: yes
    Qt Core: ok
    Bleu Oleander: so come to the session :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Wol Euler: _=
    Wol Euler: oops
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: there-
    Agatha Macbeth: I ching?
    Qt Core: i'll try (watched some of the shots but haven't understood them)
    Wol Euler: sloppy finger positioning
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Bleu Oleander: you can interpret the photos in your own way too
    Agatha Macbeth: The eye of the beholder
    Qt Core: poor photos ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: I think they're good!
    Bleu Oleander: will be interesting to see what everyone thought about the theme and why they chose what they did to photograph
    Wol Euler: I think he meant "unfortunate" :)

    I KNOW !!! (rolls eyes)

    Bleu Oleander: they're all very good I think
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Just teasing QT
    Qt Core: ;)
    Wol Euler: "la la how the life goes on" :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Quite
    Wol Euler: that might be time...


    Wol Euler: hello CG
    Bleu Oleander: hi
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi xxxxgirl
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi CG
    Myna Maven: Hello xxxxgirl.
    Bertram Jacobus: hi cg :-)
    Qt Core: hi xxxxgirl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have to go everyone, bye and have fun :))
    Myna Maven: Bye.
    Qt Core: bye ssl
    xxxxgirl xxxx: hi bleu, sophia, Agatha, QT
    Wol Euler: bye sharon, take care
    Bertram Jacobus: bye sharon - be well
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ~waves~
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Bleu Oleander: need to go too ... bye all :)
    Wol Euler: bye bleu, enjoy the day
    Myna Maven: Bye Bleu.
    Bertram Jacobus: bye bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Sharon and Bleu
    xxxxgirl xxxx: oh i came late
    Agatha Macbeth: NP :)
    Wol Euler: no worries
    Bertram Jacobus: np cg - and 5 aga ? :-)
    Wol Euler: most sessions are pretty loose and informal
    Qt Core: the others just plain crazy
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Qt Core: ;)
    Wol Euler: thank you QT <3
    Wol Euler: you've made an old woman very happy :)
    xxxxgirl xxxx: oh i see
    Agatha Macbeth: He has?
    xxxxgirl xxxx: really?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm :) Indulging my little obsession

    Maybe we shouldn't ask....

    Qt Core: glad to be helpful ;-)
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: symmetry.
    Wol Euler: we haz it

    Oh, that

    Agatha Macbeth: 'Help the Aged'
    Agatha Macbeth: God, Ara's going on and off tonight
    Agatha Macbeth: Perhaps they had another power prob there
    Wol Euler: probably, alas.

    After a few moments silence, Euler hits the 'away' pose...

    Agatha Macbeth: (Looks like Wol's on the phone again)
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, back
    Wol Euler: writing an e-mail to the group about Liza's wiki editing problem
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes
    Wol Euler: sorry
    Bertram Jacobus: a multitasker !
    Agatha Macbeth: I've been following the saga
    Wol Euler: well, alas no, as my falling asleep here proved :)
    Wol Euler: I do timeslicing rather than multithreading :)
    Wol Euler <- geek.
    Myna Maven: Big crash of thunder here. Guess we'll have a storm in a minute.


    Agatha Macbeth: Seems to be alot of it about lately
    Wol Euler: whoosh
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, I'm away folks. I got the log
    Agatha Macbeth: C yas
    Wol Euler: we got the lag
    Myna Maven: Bye Agatha.
    Wol Euler: bye aggers, take care
    Qt Core: 'notte Agatha
    Myna Maven: Where do I go to see the photos?
    Bertram Jacobus loves storms ! ... ... ... very much ... ... ... ! :-)

    So do I Bert! I think Sharon says she does too

    Wol Euler: pretty well due north of here
    Bertram Jacobus: bye agatha ...
    Wol Euler: oh wait
    Wol Euler: or is it east?
    Wol Euler: looking at the map ...
    Myna Maven: Where's north? Oh well.....
    Wol Euler: keep your minimap open :)
    Myna Maven: I'm looking for it. I forgot where it is.
    Wol Euler: yes, indeed, nearly due north
    Wol Euler: go northeast of here until you find hte street, then follow that north until you come to a big paved space
    Wol Euler: northeast is roughly behind QT
    Wol Euler: from where you are
    xxxxgirl xxxx: so,,
    Wol Euler: mmm?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes ? ;-)
    xxxxgirl xxxx: who ar aggers?
    Wol Euler: aggers = Agatha :)
    Bertram Jacobus: agatha is sometimes called aggers ;-9
    Wol Euler: an english habit of creating nicknames
    Wol Euler: I would be wollers :)
    Wol Euler: it doesn't work for all names, neither Bertram nor QT would fit

    What's wrong with Berters And QTers??

    Bertram Jacobus: aggers calls me berti sometimes ... ;-)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    xxxxgirl xxxx: and mine?
    Bertram Jacobus: cutie ? ;-)
    Wol Euler grins
    Wol Euler: or "xxxxster"
    xxxxgirl xxxx: hehe
    xxxxgirl xxxx: cutie is fine :)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    xxxxgirl xxxx: well, do you have a topic today?
    Bertram Jacobus: not yet
    Bertram Jacobus: may be one will still occure ?
    Wol Euler: we got through the session without one
    Bertram Jacobus: we talked a bit about the art project ... but i find that difficult ...
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes or even a bit more then sometimes ...
    Wol Euler: brb


    Bertram Jacobus: because it´s the contrary to "drop" to me - often. not always. when people have fun from it - and i do so, too, sometimes - may be - it´s nice
    Wol Euler: well this is where I begin to have difficulties with dropping too
    Bertram Jacobus: ah !
    Wol Euler: do you mean by dropping that enjoyment is bad? Must I eat sawdust and drink boiled water for the rest of my life?
    Bertram Jacobus: no . i think, it´s okay when we enjoy when something is there to enjoy but also can let go when it disappears
    Wol Euler: wb CG
    Bertram Jacobus: wb cg
    Wol Euler: so ... where is the contrariness then?
    Wol Euler: [14:14] Bertram Jacobus: because it´s the contrary to "drop" to me
    Qt Core: dropping versus choosing a specific moment to freeze in a "eternal" photo ?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - you may be right : may be an eroor of mine and simply i don´t like many art froms and products - and may be - but that is a bit embarrasing : when i have impressions, others were too clinging ? *blush*
    Wol Euler: okay ...
    xxxxgirl xxxx: thanks, was disconnected!
    Bertram Jacobus: and that what you say, too qt (!) - or is it only that i´m too lazy to take and make and handle then - photos (?) ... hmm ... don´t know . only know : don´t need them for myself ... hm
    Wol Euler smiles
    Qt Core: i just don't think i got the pic making, i did one some months ago and it toke me hours... don't like to repeat the experience
    Bertram Jacobus: same here qt - i think i would need much time for it ! ...
    Qt Core: may use that one, it has so much time in it ;-)
    Qt Core: the procedure is easy, but repeating it until satisfacted not so much ;-)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: but at least you can dump the photos toy our hard disk for free
    Wol Euler: I spent a fortune uploadiung screenshots before I figured that out
    Qt Core: that too is something i dislike seen my relationship with sl money
    Bertram Jacobus: sry - i´ll leave ... have a nice nite and ty for your companionship ! and may all beings be happy plz ...
    Wol Euler: goodnight bert
    xxxxgirl xxxx: thanks, same to you Hacoubs
    Qt Core: 'night bertram
    xxxxgirl xxxx: jacoubs
    Bertram Jacobus: byeee :-)
    xxxxgirl xxxx: also, nighty guys
    Wol Euler: bye CG, take care
    Qt Core: night xxxxgirl


    Wol Euler: I should go too, the evening is getting old
    xxxxgirl xxxx: see you soon:)
    Wol Euler: buona notte, QT
    Qt Core: yes, me too, 'notte Wol

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