2010.06.16 01:00 - combining energies

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bolonath Crystal. The comments are by Bolonath Crystal.

    Bolonath Crystal: namaste cal :)
    Bolonath Crystal: how r u?
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm well - the day has been a good one
    Calvino Rabeni: and you?
    Bolonath Crystal: i'm well, too. just got up *g*. the day seems to become a good one ;)
    Bolonath Crystal: i'm just taking my breakfast coffee :)
    Calvino Rabeni: enjoy :)
    Bolonath Crystal: ty
    Bolonath Crystal: a friend of mine visited me during the last week. we had 2 to 3 meditation sessions per day and we did lots of pranayama
    Bolonath Crystal: so i feel pretty centered at the moment :)
    Calvino Rabeni: how long were the sessions?
    Bolonath Crystal: about 15 to 30 minutes
    Calvino Rabeni: That sounds nice. I've never invited a friend for a private meditation retreat, but it seems like a great idea
    Bolonath Crystal: somehow the motivation is much better with a friend than all alone
    Calvino Rabeni: and the focus
    Bolonath Crystal: we're backing up each other
    Bolonath Crystal: adding our energies
    Bolonath Crystal: and of course the talks between the sittings are very fruitful
    Calvino Rabeni: nice :)
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I took a friend to a dance practice event today
    Calvino Rabeni: It starts with a circle and meditation
    Bolonath Crystal: oh
    Bolonath Crystal: dance and meditation?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is a common format in this part of the world
    Bolonath Crystal: what kind of dance was it?
    Calvino Rabeni: conscious movement
    Calvino Rabeni: with "world" music
    Bolonath Crystal: that sounds like tai chi :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, but free-form
    Bolonath Crystal: cool
    Darren Islar: hi Cal, Bolo :)
    Calvino Rabeni: many of the dancers know lots of arts, TajJi, ReiKi, maybe Latihan, lots of disciplines, that come out in the dancing
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste darren :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Darren
    Bolonath Crystal: the atmosphere must have been sparkling :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes,, and literally, a huge rainbow appeared, and lasted quite a while
    Bolonath Crystal: cal talks about a conscious dance event, darren
    Calvino Rabeni: Many of the dancers were tuning to that event in the sky
    Calvino Rabeni: Not that it has cosmic significance, but those are impressive atmospheric phenomena
    Bolonath Crystal: the apsaras were dancing with you
    Calvino Rabeni: It kind of magnetized the group
    Calvino Rabeni: "galvanized" ?
    Calvino Rabeni: How R U, Darren?
    Darren Islar: Actually, I don't now
    Darren Islar: *know
    Calvino Rabeni: Ah, it is morning? This morning, I did not know either :)
    Darren Islar: something made a deep impression on me last night
    Darren Islar: :)
    Darren Islar: yes, just got out of bed
    Calvino Rabeni: I think I understand
    Darren Islar: we have been attending a dreamcircle last night Bolo
    Bolonath Crystal: o i c
    Darren Islar: a few people shared there dreams
    Darren Islar: offering them to the group, as not being an individual dream
    Darren Islar: but also touching universal principles
    Darren Islar: that;s the idea :)
    Calvino Rabeni: It was great to have 4 dream workers there together
    Calvino Rabeni: As a meeting of different styles
    Darren Islar: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: Also interesting, for the online medium to be employed in a more "shamanic" way
    Calvino Rabeni: BTW, Bolo, the meeting was mostly in Voice
    Darren Islar: I came on as Liza, by accident actually, but therefor could use voice :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Is that so the voice matches the avatar, or some technical reason.
    Bolonath Crystal: actually i prefer the writing
    Darren Islar: mostly I do too, but I think Connie was right about it is better to tell the dream in voice
    Bolonath Crystal: more "authentical"?
    Darren Islar: whele a man with a female voice would be a bit strange :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Voice carries the sound vibration of the deep mind
    Darren Islar: I think the voice si a carrier of information too
    Bolonath Crystal nods
    Darren Islar: right Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: So the listener can be sensitive to what is in that
    Calvino Rabeni: as part of the way of knowing the dream, also knowing something of the dreamer
    Darren Islar: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a bit more challenge to attention and short term memory
    Calvino Rabeni: to remember the story when told oraly
    Calvino Rabeni: if one cannot "scroll up" :)
    Darren Islar: true, but someone, (who had prepared something in writing) was going too fast
    Calvino Rabeni: BTW I also got a bit lost on the one that was presented using a huge amount of text
    Calvino Rabeni: yep, was saying the same :)
    Darren Islar: I'm a slow reader, especially in Englisch :)
    Calvino Rabeni: It is not a written medium
    Calvino Rabeni: "Less is More"
    Darren Islar: well, I understand that you need to write it down in front
    Darren Islar: but who should have taken more time to present it
    Calvino Rabeni: The writing in the journal is for the dreamer
    Darren Islar: and there were also too many thoughts of his own in it :))
    Calvino Rabeni: not so much for the listener
    Bolonath Crystal: so all of us recently have had the experience of the effect of combined energies - in meditating, dancing and dream sharing. what would happen if all those techniques would be combined, too?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: Combined how ?
    Darren Islar: maybe it already is, because I think they are all different ways to get to a certain place of energy
    Calvino Rabeni: They get combined in the awareness of the practitioners
    Darren Islar: right Ca;
    Calvino Rabeni: or did you mean, a formal combination of some technique?
    Darren Islar: Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: LIke that dance event - there were many "practices" brought into the room
    Calvino Rabeni: it was basically, "post formal"
    Bolonath Crystal: hm... e.g. a group starts to dance together to get harmonized, thaen goes into a kind of "group meditation" to interlink the minds and shares dreams
    Calvino Rabeni: in that it represented a combination of learnings that became part of the culture
    Bolonath Crystal: something like that
    Calvino Rabeni: that sounds like a good thing to try at a retreat
    Bolonath Crystal: yes, would be worth trying
    Calvino Rabeni: (Put it on the list, for a PaB retreat) :)
    Darren Islar: yes, different ways, and one works better with someone then other parts
    Darren Islar: so it is easier to get into the same 'area'
    Darren Islar: :) I think I will be exhausted after that :)))
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: hehe, you can take a nap afterwards
    Calvino Rabeni: Have you found, that some practices give you energy?
    Darren Islar: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: pranayama
    Calvino Rabeni: A nap is often a Good Thing :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Veery under-rated
    Darren Islar: a good night of sleep too Cal :))
    Bolonath Crystal: and a meditation which i call "silver breath" (because i don't know the right name) is also very energizing
    Calvino Rabeni: I was discussing this with someone, the ideas people have about sleeping
    Calvino Rabeni: one person thinks - don't sleep during the day, because you then can't sleep at night when you "should" sleep
    Calvino Rabeni: The other thinks "sleep when tired"
    Bolonath Crystal: did you also talk about ideas about the state of mind during sleeping?
    Calvino Rabeni: No, that was too esoteric for the situation
    Darren Islar: a Shaman told me not so long ago that between 10 pm and 2 am is the time where you get most refreshment, because that is where you drop all the things of the day
    Bolonath Crystal: ah
    Calvino Rabeni: Maybe, but I like 3AM a lot
    Calvino Rabeni: it is not the dropping time
    Darren Islar: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: it is after the dropping time, when a subtle wakeup can occur
    Bolonath Crystal: yes, first some refreshing and dropping, and then to bed :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Better not to take a "load" to bed
    Darren Islar: I don't think that is what is meant here
    Calvino Rabeni: What do you think is meant?
    Darren Islar: that you brain is in a state of making the right connections as it comes to memory, learning, understanding
    Darren Islar: if that happens, you drop
    Darren Islar: but I will ask the essence of it, because maybe I missed something
    Darren Islar: btw, I am going to sleep after 2 am too :)
    Darren Islar: but she is gone now for a while
    Calvino Rabeni: The brain may have a kind of process for what to do during the night.
    Darren Islar: but she didnt exclude that maybe for nightowls, the time is a bit later
    Calvino Rabeni: with some regularities
    Bolonath Crystal: during my stay in the ashram i used to go to bed around 10:30pm
    Calvino Rabeni: Most of my interesting dreams are before waking in the morning
    Darren Islar: true, mine too
    Calvino Rabeni: the early ones, seem to be kind of, sorting out the previous day
    Calvino Rabeni: "housework" of the mind, not creativity
    Bolonath Crystal: wow, do you take a look at your watches will dreaming? i don't know about the time of my dreams
    Bolonath Crystal: will=while*
    Darren Islar: yes, but also about making connections to take the day in and all that has been of value that day
    Darren Islar: a deep learning process
    Calvino Rabeni: I wake several times, look at the clock by the bed, and at that time may remember what I was dreaming
    Bolonath Crystal: ah
    Bolonath Crystal: i fall asleep when i go to bed and wake up somewhen in the morning. sometimes i remember my dreams, sometimes i don't, but i never know about the time when i dreamed
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, Darren, I think one can get a head start on that process before going to sleep
    Calvino Rabeni: The morning dreams get interrupted by waking
    Darren Islar: I'm not sure Cal, I just don't know
    Calvino Rabeni: sometimes I go back to continue them a little
    Calvino Rabeni: Not sure what, Darren?
    Darren Islar: research shows that we do some tasks better after sleeping
    Bolonath Crystal: oh, yes, i remember some dreams which were interrupted by the alarm. these must have been morning dreams ;)
    Bolonath Crystal: but i am not so sure if the dreams were interrupted or maybe rather induced by the alarm
    Darren Islar: well, I'm afraid I'm not in my brain while sleeping, but I think something happens there that is more profound then what we can do during daytime
    Darren Islar: or during the periods we are awake
    Bolonath Crystal: as i read, some dreams which seem to last for hours actually happen within a single second
    Darren Islar: yes, well they don't seem to be able to agree on that
    Calvino Rabeni: Possibly - how could that be verified?
    Bolonath Crystal: well, i have to continue my rl dream
    Bolonath Crystal: have a nice day or night or whatever *g*
    Darren Islar: dream well Bolo :))
    Darren Islar: bye
    Bolonath Crystal: om shanti :)
    Calvino Rabeni: ah, *that* one :)
    Calvino Rabeni: _/!\_
    Calvino Rabeni: Well then, let's wrap this session :)
    Darren Islar: yes, let's do that
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye for now, Darren :)
    Darren Islar: bye Cal :)
    Darren Islar: sleep well

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