2010.06.29 13:00 - 'Life's a Bowl of Cherries'

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Agatha Macbeth. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.

    I arrived at the Pagoda to find Sharon interviewing Wester for the Chronicles in IM.

    Qt Core: hi Subaru, Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi QT
    Subaru Arun: Hi QT :)


    Qt Core: Hi Calvino
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Good day everyone !
    Wester Kiranov: Hi Cal
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Qt, Agatha, Calvino and Subaru :)
    Subaru Arun: Hi Calvino :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oops and Wester :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hehe
    Wester Kiranov: I think we've met already ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Agatha Macbeth: Do we have anything to talk about this evening?
    Agatha Macbeth: (Or morning or afternoon as the case may be)
    Calvino Rabeni: How about interspecies communication ?
    Qt Core: it seem we don't
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good to me :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleu
    Subaru Arun: Hello Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu
    Qt Core: as if we can communicate well just with our own ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: There were some puppies brought to the house next to my kitchen
    Qt Core: hi Bleu
    Calvino Rabeni: they grew up fast, became barky dogs
    Wester Kiranov: hi Bleu
    Calvino Rabeni: when I wash at the kitchen sink, they are suspicious and won't stop barking


    Calvino Rabeni: so I decided I would cure them of it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon
    Zon Quar: hello...
    Qt Core: Hi Zon
    Wester Kiranov: hi zon
    Qt Core: hi
    Agatha Macbeth: How did you go about it then Cal?
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zon
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Zon
    Subaru Arun: Hello Zon :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I opened the kitchen window, and made lots of noise, clanking and running water and clinking dishes and flatware
    Calvino Rabeni: and after awhile they just got bored
    Calvino Rabeni: and figured, "nothing to see here"
    Calvino Rabeni: so no more barking :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Wester Kiranov: how long did you have to clank?
    Agatha Macbeth: Com-pa-shun :)
    Agatha Macbeth: In reverse...
    Calvino Rabeni: Only as long as it took to do the dishes :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Surprised the dogs didn't offer to dry :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Spain just beat Portugal 1-0
    Qt Core: i seem to communicate well with dog... it's a pity the only message we send each other is mutual dislike
    SophiaSharon Larnia: gtg bye everyone ^^
    Agatha Macbeth: Just tell him to leave your leg alone ;-)
    Qt Core: bye Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Shaz
    Subaru Arun: Bye Sharon :)
    Wester Kiranov: bye sophia
    Bleu Oleander: me too, cu :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleu
    Subaru Arun: Bye for now Bleu
    Wester Kiranov: well, then I'm off too. bye bleu, bye everybody
    Qt Core: bye Wester
    Agatha Macbeth: See ya Wester
    Subaru Arun: Bye Wester :)
    Subaru Arun: I seem to have arrived upon a quiet session :)
    Subaru Arun: Bye for now
    Qt Core: :) Bye
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya :)

    This sudden exodus leaves Me, Cal and QT in the Pagoda...

    Calvino Rabeni: Can't have that ... another topic perhaps?
    Calvino Rabeni: The World Cup?
    Agatha Macbeth: As long as it's not logging :p
    Qt Core: are byou really proposing to speak about the current world cup to an italian ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yeah, who's gonna win QT?
    Calvino Rabeni: What is your feeling about logging, Agatha ?
    Agatha Macbeth: I think people are going on about it way too much
    Calvino Rabeni: Too much for what ?


    Qt Core: don't really know, this year, even before italian team debacle i wasn't enjoying the matches
    Agatha Macbeth: Either a) you record peoples' comments or b) you don't. It's really that simple IMHO
    Agatha Macbeth: I think I fancy Holland now
    Qt Core: i'm approaching it from a negative pov, i hope brasil nor argentina would win
    Calvino Rabeni: Ah, so it comes down to just a basic logic statement?
    Agatha Macbeth: Spain always have a chance too
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, yeah...
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Wol
    Wol Euler: hello qt, agatha, cal
    Qt Core: hi wol
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Wol
    Calvino Rabeni: We have logging and the world cup as competing topics]
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Fascinating eh?
    Wol Euler: hello yaku
    Qt Core: i wonder ow people against logging act about people saving local chat and or IM
    Calvino Rabeni: Yaku - glad you're here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, dream
    Agatha Macbeth: Are you stopping or passing through Yaku :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i think i am leaving already yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i forgot about the dreamworkshop
    Agatha Macbeth: Ach, mein Gott! :)
    Qt Core: have fun then, Yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Dream on Yaku
    Agatha Macbeth: Now I've lawst me fred
    Agatha Macbeth reads back
    Agatha Macbeth: Well to answer your question QT, people can still record their own chat or IM irrespective of logging
    Agatha Macbeth: So for me it invalidates the whole issue really
    Wol Euler: I suspect that the issue is publishing, not recording as such
    Agatha Macbeth: Mm, probably
    Sartre Placebo: yes, becaue we all are loggin
    Qt Core: yes, i'm wondering about/if these non logging people think about that kind of logging
    Agatha Macbeth: But people would still have a record of what is said nontheless
    Wol Euler: hello sartre
    Wol Euler: sure, but the whole world would not.
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually would they even think about that?
    Wol Euler: that is the difference, if I understand it correctly
    Sartre Placebo: i remember wol´s kind reminders that emererald updates make logging stop
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Satre
    Wol Euler: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (This bloke gets around)
    Qt Core: who tells you wol that someone will not publish them somewhere, not respecting sl terms ?
    Wol Euler: nobody, of course.
    Qt Core: hi sartre
    Wol Euler: but we *do* say that we *will* publish them
    Sartre Placebo: yaku here
    Agatha Macbeth: Anyone could publish them elsewhere online from their own records, without permission
    Sartre Placebo: i don´t have the philclass today so i can multitask around here a little :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Qt Core: went to the dream workshop
    Agatha Macbeth: Multitasking is good if you can do it [grin]
    Sartre Placebo: i can´t but it helps not to get stuck in topics
    Sartre Placebo: i only should go to 7 am sessions anymore
    Sartre Placebo: shoulnd´tn
    Wol Euler: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: The odd thing is, I haven't heard people express, what effect logging and publishing to the world, has on their own expression and experience
    Sartre Placebo: i am too tired and not present at all by then
    Wol Euler: hello darren
    Sartre Placebo: hey darren
    Darren Islar: hi everyone
    Sartre Placebo: no dream workshop today darren ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Darren
    Qt Core: i usually remember we log ourselves after the session in which i said something very silly ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha ha QT
    Darren Islar: I don't know
    Qt Core: hi Darren
    Darren Islar: but lost my interest a bit
    Agatha Macbeth: I think we all do that
    Sartre Placebo: ok
    Sartre Placebo: it´s happening, i just wanted to remind you
    Darren Islar: thanks

    I notice that everyone is unusually congregated on one side of the fountain...

    Agatha Macbeth: This must be the deep end of the pool...
    Wol Euler grins
    Darren Islar: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: No, that's over there :)
    Agatha Macbeth looks for the diving board
    Darren Islar: we are trying to give it more balance
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like we failed :))
    Wol Euler: at least we're symmetrical again
    Agatha Macbeth: Kinda
    Wol Euler: absolutely.
    Wol Euler: mirror symmetry through the brown cushion between / behind us
    Darren Islar: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, but four blues and two reds
    Wol Euler: ah
    Wol Euler: well, that is Storm's doing.
    Agatha Macbeth: (Colours count)
    Wol Euler: we'd all have to shift along three places to solve that too


    Agatha Macbeth looks round to see if anyone is moving
    Wol Euler: actually, no, it's probably not solveable with this number of people in this arrangement
    Darren Islar: so, I can stay put :)
    Wol Euler: indeed, please do
    Calvino Rabeni: I thought World Cup would win over Logging as a topic
    Calvino Rabeni: So even the World Cup has the same degree of philosophical interest as Logging, I'd say
    Qt Core: never took color as a simmetry parameter, but as most knows as a male i'm almost colorblind ;-)
    Wol Euler makes the sign of the cross.
    Agatha Macbeth heads the cross into the net
    Agatha Macbeth: :)
    Wol Euler: heh
    Agatha Macbeth: Jesus was not amused...
    Qt Core: the day after we fot out of the world cup was a funny and angering day
    Agatha Macbeth: Same here!
    Qt Core: funny seeing all those people going around with a broken heart about 22 people in shorts and angering as there are much more serious things to feel like that about

    (Italy had 22 players??  Offensive and Defensive unit maybe :p)

    Wol Euler nods.
    Agatha Macbeth: Saves them going on about your PM anyway
    Qt Core: i obviously would have liked another result, but to be honest we knew since many months we would be bad (maybe not so bad)
    Calvino Rabeni: Some people are interested in sports and philosophy - probably a very small population, I might guess
    Agatha Macbeth: Much the same with our lot
    Calvino Rabeni: since they are regarded as non-overlapping subjects
    Wol Euler: wasn't Freddie Ayer a great football fan?
    Agatha Macbeth: Well you often need to be philosophical where England are concerned ;-)
    Wol Euler: and Albert Camus was goalkeeper for the Oran team
    Agatha Macbeth: He was?
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Agatha Macbeth: Must have missed that

    (Over 'ere Albert- on me 'ed san)

    Wol Euler: one of my remote uncles possibly played against him
    Wol Euler: we can't work it out exactly, but the dates are right
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah...possibly
    Calvino Rabeni: What can google turn up...Hmmm, here's an article about the World Cup in relation to the perspectve model of Ken Wilber
    Calvino Rabeni: http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/0...rant-approach/
    Calvino Rabeni: ... not sure I'm ready for that :)
    Agatha Macbeth: This should be good
    Calvino Rabeni: Cognitive dissonance :)
    Qt Core: if i remember it right http://www.volleyhall.org/jvelasco.html has a degree in philosophy
    Agatha Macbeth: My God
    Qt Core: (a volleyball coach who won very much with italian teams and italians nationals team, both male and female)
    Agatha Macbeth: I played beach volleyball in my youth, that was fun
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Darren Islar: hi Ara
    Qt Core: hi ara
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Arabella :)
    Qt Core: i tried to play volleyball as a sport, but around here at around 14 (at the time) or you chose to be serious, a team, championship and all or no more organized sport
    Wol Euler: school put me off organized sport permanently
    Agatha Macbeth: Oops Ara crashed
    arabella Ella: Hiya
    Agatha Macbeth: Hang in there Ara :)
    arabella Ella: he he


    arabella Ella: hanging
    Darren Islar: hi agian

    At this point I have a somewhat embarassing confession...I totally misunderstood Darren's typo and began looking round for a noob named Agian to give him a notecard [sighs].

    Agatha Macbeth: We're all over here on account of symmetry, alledgedly
    Qt Core: even the blue on her back left would be good for simmetry

    People now begin to indulge in the old 'PaB Cushion Hop'...

    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, musical cushions
    Calvino Rabeni: Now it seems, only Wol can move without breaking symmetry
    arabella Ella: why is symmetry so contagious i wonder
    Agatha Macbeth: If she moves without breaking wind I'll be happy ;-)
    Wol Euler grins
    Agatha Macbeth: Well, that's buggered it totally now...
    Darren Islar: and if we hop one cushion we even have symmetry in cushions
    Darren Islar: or not....
    Wol Euler: no, we are symmetrical still/again
    Wol Euler: mirror symmetry through me & the empty cusion
    Darren Islar: in color I mean
    Sartre Placebo: we praise you our wol
    Agatha Macbeth: It's easier to see with a bird's-eye view (see below)
    Wol Euler: yes, we could get that too! if everyone moved one cushion clockwise
    Qt Core: woud we unlock a secret prize ?
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks cockeyed again to me
    Wol Euler: it is
    Wol Euler: cal and sartre didn'T move
    Wol Euler: spoilsports
    Agatha Macbeth: Such is life
    Wol Euler sighs
    Agatha Macbeth: Anyway...
    Wol Euler: as we were saying
    Darren Islar: yes, what were we saying?
    arabella Ella: oh I hate to spoil the symmetry but i got to go
    arabella Ella: good nite
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, what were we saying?
    Darren Islar: bye Ara
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Ara
    Wol Euler: goodnight ara, take care
    Agatha Macbeth: Something about volleyball?
    Darren Islar waves
    Qt Core: bye Darren
    Agatha Macbeth: Sine waves

    A newcomer (real this time!!!) arrives...

    Darren Islar: hi Fem
    Femtasia Rexen: hello , mind if I sit in
    Wol Euler: hello femtasia
    Wol Euler: sure, please do
    Agatha Macbeth: Please do
    Agatha Macbeth: Snap
    Wol Euler: I'll give you a notecard, and an introduction in IM
    Femtasia Rexen: oh thank you
    Qt Core: hi Femtasia
    Agatha Macbeth: Do you like volleyball and symmetry Femtasia?
    Femtasia Rexen: ive never played volleyball i dont think
    Agatha Macbeth: Shoot
    Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Fael :)
    Darren Islar: hi Fae;
    Agatha Macbeth: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P
    Qt Core: hi fael
    Darren Islar: Fael
    Wol Euler: hello fael
    Sartre Placebo: hey fael
    Fael Innovia: Hi Everyone :)
    Qt Core: one of the few sport i ever liked, my only problem zero jump, always been to fatty for that ;-) but quite good at the other actions
    Agatha Macbeth: You needed a lift up QT :)
    Qt Core: maybe a lot of helium
    Agatha Macbeth: That helps too
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, and a balloon


    Agatha Macbeth: Ssssssssssh
    Qt Core: or a lot of tiny one... cuter ;-)
    Qt Core: i think i hitted (or missed ?) every 90 sec pause... yeah for myself
    Qt Core: (sorry, btw)
    Agatha Macbeth: For hitting or missing? :)
    Sartre Placebo: good night everyone
    Qt Core: 'night sartre
    Wol Euler: ciao sartre, take care
    Darren Islar: night Sartre
    Agatha Macbeth: Gute Nacht Sartre :)
    Qt Core: it depend on which side of the bell you are, Agatha :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm, yes
    Agatha Macbeth: This is also true
    Darren Islar: adn hushing in one break and talking to another isn't doing the trcik

    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)

    Fael Innovia: Hi Cal :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
    Darren Islar: wb Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Where did you go Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: There was a router or net problem, cause SL to dump me into RL :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ouch
    Wol Euler: heh
    Agatha Macbeth: Not nice
    Qt Core: was you agatha that named our "beloved" PM ? you may be interested in this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/30/wo...pe/30rome.html
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah :)
    Qt Core: only detail missing is that Mr. B hasn't filed for compensation
    Wol Euler: I wonder why, not like him to miss a chance to take a buck from somebody
    Agatha Macbeth: Good old Silvio
    Qt Core: don't think he has some, not even for judiciary expenses
    Qt Core: and then it would be bad for his image, like striking someone on the ground
    Agatha Macbeth: Fancy hitting somebody with a cathederal!
    Qt Core: (publicy, that is ;-) )


    Wol Euler: thanks for the warning, T.
    Qt Core: and milan cathedral is gothic too, so quite pointy!

    We get a strange message from the Lindens

    Agatha Macbeth: Did everybody else see that?
    Qt Core: yes
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Femtasia Rexen: yes I did
    Agatha Macbeth: Erk
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni for unknown reasons, wonders if cherries grow in Italy
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure they do
    Qt Core: yes, the season is ending these weeks
    Agatha Macbeth: Cherries are nice
    Qt Core: sadly they cost a lot, the better quality is around 8,5 euros / kg
    Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
    Qt Core: a relative come home from Vignola, the town where that quality is arvested and brought some (at a lower price) they were very big and really, really good
    Calvino Rabeni: Cherries may be an antidote to a lot of the world's woes, so maybe that price is worth it
    Agatha Macbeth: Big ones are always best :)
    Calvino Rabeni: In english at least there is the saying "Life is a bowl of cherries" if it is going REALLY well :)
    Agatha Macbeth: If it's a bowl of big cherries, I agree
    Wol Euler: I thought htat was "the world is your lobster"?
    Agatha Macbeth: ??
    Agatha Macbeth: Oyster?
    Qt Core: about cherries in italy we say one pulls another as they become tangled, you take one and another come with the first
    Agatha Macbeth: Riiiight...
    Calvino Rabeni: They come in 3's ?
    Qt Core: then the phrase is expended to whatever is so good you can't stop
    Qt Core: rarely
    Calvino Rabeni: OK, I get it
    Agatha Macbeth: Sounds good :)
    Calvino Rabeni: It is hard to stop eating them :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And the bunchiness helps that effect
    Qt Core: got it
    Qt Core: ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: So you can't say "I'll just have one more ..." because you get 2 or 3
    Agatha Macbeth: Or 5 or 6
    Wol Euler nods.
    Qt Core: or all the basket
    Calvino Rabeni: And then figure might as well continue the "roll"
    Agatha Macbeth: Or belly-ache...
    Calvino Rabeni: Germans I think, have a superstition about cherries and water
    Wol Euler: o.O
    Calvino Rabeni: Does it sound familiar?
    Wol Euler: not drinking water after eating cherries, because htey'll expand in your stomach?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes that one
    Agatha Macbeth: What about the other way round?
    Calvino Rabeni: I have a German friend who as a child, made SURE to test that hypothesis
    Wol Euler: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: which led to a life of scepticism about folk wisdom, unfortunately
    Qt Core: we have something like that about milk and water
    Femtasia Rexen: excuse me.. I have to go now, hope to see you all soon...
    Femtasia Rexen: bye for now
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Fem
    Qt Core: bye Femtasia
    Wol Euler: bye femtasia, take care
    Calvino Rabeni: :)Femtasia
    Fael Innovia: Bye Fem :)
    Qt Core: have fun
    Darren Islar: bye Fem
    Qt Core: one of my favorite sayings about food/fruit is about the watermelon
    Agatha Macbeth: ?
    Wol Euler: ?
    Agatha Macbeth: (Again)


    Qt Core: it is in milanese dialect: "se magna, se bev e se laba la facia) it say that, with it, you "eat, drink and wash your face"
    Qt Core: laba=lava
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Agatha Macbeth: I see
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually, I quite like melon
    Agatha Macbeth: I like most fruits
    Qt Core: i only dislike ananas quite a lot
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: Personally, I like nuts better than fruits
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I like bananas
    Fael Innovia: Oh, I like ananas
    Agatha Macbeth: I like both
    Agatha Macbeth: To be honest I like them together as well
    Qt Core: most peoples like ananas, so it is almost everywhere ;-)
    Fael Innovia: ... oh that's a funny typo :D it registered to me as pineapple (ananas is Finnish for pineapple)
    Qt Core: yes, forgot to translatte, pineapple
    Agatha Macbeth: Pineapple is nice, but *very* acidic
    Agatha Macbeth: I burns my mouth if I eat one
    Fael Innovia: you're finnish, Qt?
    Calvino Rabeni: Same with me Aga
    Qt Core: not... yet
    Wol Euler: my dears, I must leave, I'm falling asleep at my desk.
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Wol
    Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care, be happy.
    Fael Innovia: Good night Wol :)
    Wol Euler: eat lots of fruit.
    Qt Core: it temps go higher and higher as they are gpoing i may come there ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Truly
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Wol
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Qt Core: 'night wol
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni wonders if Wol goes straight from Desk to Bed

    (Her desk probably IS her bed :-DDDD)

    Agatha Macbeth: What's the temperature in Finland then Fael?
    Fael Innovia: right now, 15C
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow, cool (literally)
    Fael Innovia: was 23C in shadow earlier today when I checked
    Agatha Macbeth: It's been almost 30C here
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't like it
    Qt Core: 25 now and 32 in the day
    Agatha Macbeth: I wish it would rain

    (Cue a song by The Who...)

    Qt Core: and a lot of humidity
    Qt Core: higher temps for tomorrow the meteo said...
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh, not here, please
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll pass out
    Agatha Macbeth: I think i will say goodnight all. Have fun
    Qt Core: 'night Agatha
    Darren Islar: nite Agatha
    Qt Core: seeing the watch going to sleep may be a wise move :-)
    Qt Core: 'night all, have fun
    Fael Innovia: Sleep well Qt :)
    Darren Islar: nite QT
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye!


    Fael Innovia: please stand up first :D
    Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Calvino Rabeni likes it
    Calvino Rabeni: This would be a good time to get on my motorcycle and go down to the roadside cherry stand :)
    Fael Innovia: meep meep! :)
    Darren Islar: tutututuut
    Darren Islar: that's real Dutch :)))
    Fael Innovia: dutch?
    Fael Innovia: meep meep?
    Darren Islar: tutututuu
    Darren Islar: and only known to oldies like me
    Fael Innovia smiles.
    Darren Islar: need to go, the clock stroke twelve
    Darren Islar: bedtime for me
    Fael Innovia: Have fun Darren :)
    Fael Innovia: Ah, Sleep well :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye !
    Darren Islar: thank Fael
    Darren Islar: bye Cal, Fael :)
    Fael Innovia waves happily.
    Darren Islar: can't get home

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