2010.07.01 13:00 - scary but good

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    Qt Core: Hi Wol
    Qt Core: so you DO have an antenna, i was wondering just seconds before you crashed
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: that must have been the reason, it attracted the bad vibes
    Qt Core: :-)
    Qt Core: and to think it is on the right side, (Joibs speaking here)
    Bertram Jacobus: hey - you are early ! :-)
    Wol Euler: hello bert
    Qt Core: so it seems, hi bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hey you :-)
    Wol Euler: your english is fine
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey guys
    Wol Euler: hello yaku
    Qt Core: hi Yaku
    Bertram Jacobus: hi yaku
    Wol Euler: hello lia
    Qt Core: hi lia
    Lia Rikugun: hello everybody
    Bertram Jacobus: hello lia ! ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: :)


    A new visitor is joining us: introduction to Play as Being :)

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey lia, hey lennox
    Bertram Jacobus: hi lennox
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lennox come a little closer and have a seat
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i am not sure everyone in the circle heard you since ur slightly under 20 meters to me
    Bertram Jacobus: talking a bit
    Bertram Jacobus: sitting here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: have a pillow with us :)
    Bertram Jacobus: enjoying the people here :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: how did you find this place here ?
    Wol Euler: hello lennox
    lennox Leeeroy: just wandering along. Hi all
    Lia Rikugun: hello lennox
    Bertram Jacobus: i see - people here talk sometimes about "being" ... :-)
    lennox Leeeroy: being?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes, being. in contrary to "having" for example ... :-)
    Lia Rikugun: we are discussing a little together
    lennox Leeeroy: thanks for the card Lia
    Lia Rikugun: it describes a little what we do
    Lia Rikugun: "play as being"
    Bertram Jacobus: i don´t discuss very much. i prefere to talk ;o)
    Lia Rikugun: yes sorry wrong choice of word
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Wol Euler: hello cal
    Bertram Jacobus: no sorries necessairy - in contrary : i´m happy to read that you don´t want to discuss either as it seems lia ! (?) :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening everyone
    Lia Rikugun: the idea is also to take some time every day and just drop
    Bertram Jacobus: hey calvino - namaste ! :-)
    Lia Rikugun: and see what is behind all the facade
    Lia Rikugun: what lies beyond that
    Lia Rikugun: what is true
    Bertram Jacobus: being ... ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: so we meet here to talk about our expereinces
    Lia Rikugun: yes bertram
    Lia Rikugun: we also have a wiki online
    Bertram Jacobus: mostly i like it simple
    Lia Rikugun: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
    Lia Rikugun: where we post all the chat logs from the sessions here in SL
    Lia Rikugun: would it be ok for you if your name was visible there?
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes less is more ... hm - we all know ... already. i guess (?) ...
    Bertram Jacobus: heyy arch ! :-)
    lennox Leeeroy: ok by me, sounds interesting
    Lia Rikugun: ok
    Bertram Jacobus: happy to read that lennox :-)


    I talk a little about an experience I had during a "sally": scary in the first place but then wonderful

    Lia Rikugun: I had an interesting experience
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Wol Euler: do tell
    Lia Rikugun: well for me interesting
    Bertram Jacobus: so often people ... it´s not easy to find the middle between consuming and producing ...
    Lia Rikugun: I made a little sally
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Archmage Atlantis: Halo, everyone :)
    Lia Rikugun: which is like travelling in my head
    Lia Rikugun: hello arch
    Wol Euler: hello arch
    Lia Rikugun: well i encountered a scary situation
    Lia Rikugun: but i decided to go along with it
    Lia Rikugun: i could have stopped it and go back to a safer place
    Lia Rikugun: but i was curious too
    Lia Rikugun: and it turened out to be a wonderful story
    Lia Rikugun: i ended up in a wonderful place
    Lia Rikugun: so I am wondering about appearances and what might appear scary first but is not really
    Lia Rikugun: are we fooled by our first impressions?
    Wol Euler: sometimes :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello ton ! *wave*
    Lia Rikugun: by our cultural background and every structure in the head
    Bertram Jacobus: zon - sry lol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zon
    Zon Quar: heya all
    Calvino Rabeni: scary things can be wonderful at the same time
    Qt Core: often, a little less in virtual worlds where we know aspect is quite an unstable thing
    Lia Rikugun: yes it has some energy
    Lia Rikugun: it was maybe a little like sky diving
    Lia Rikugun: it is scary but wonmderful :)
    Lia Rikugun: (havend tried yet though)
    Lia Rikugun: a break will come up
    Lia Rikugun: where we keep silent for 90 seconds
    Lia Rikugun: welcome back yaku
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hy bleu (sry phone) ...
    Lia Rikugun: hello bleu
    Zon Quar: yaku, bleu
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Bleu
    Wol Euler: hello bleu
    lennox Leeeroy: hello
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey bleu


    A pause of silence ...

    Lia Rikugun: sorry i didnt want to take over the conversation..
    Bertram Jacobus: sometimes talks are nice, sometimes silence is nice ...
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: don´t you think so, too ? :-)
    Lia Rikugun: yes
    Archmage Atlantis: Sometimes listening to others talk, while being silent is nice, also :)
    Lia Rikugun: :)


    What is the meaning of the story? Or is the story itself enough? Is it meaningful to be scared sometimes?

    Bertram Jacobus: so - what does your story tell you lia ?
    Lia Rikugun: it was like a gift
    Lia Rikugun: a scary person turned out to be a real friend
    Lia Rikugun: showing me a wonderful place
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - that theme sometimes comes up for ya, right ?
    Wol Euler nods
    Lia Rikugun: what do you mean bertram?
    Bertram Jacobus: i mean, it´s not the first time that i hear such a story from you - or do i err ? hmm ...
    Lia Rikugun: yes
    Bertram Jacobus: why may that be ?
    Lia Rikugun: maybe to remind me that there is no reason to be scared
    Lia Rikugun: any situation can be turned into something meaningful
    Lia Rikugun: maybe
    Bertram Jacobus: hmm - my idaea is : when that is clear, it won´t come up anymore ... whether that is right ?
    Lia Rikugun: i dont know what it means..
    Lia Rikugun: when for me it is clear that nothing is scary it wont come up?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. i could imagine that - no ?
    Bertram Jacobus: no thought or feeling then about that anymore ...
    Lia Rikugun: i dont think i am particularly scared
    Lia Rikugun: i dont know
    Bertram Jacobus: who does (?) ...
    Archmage Atlantis: Some things should be scary.........it is normal, it is what we do with the feeling that is useful, in my opinion
    Wol Euler nods. And unforttunately our intuitions are sometimes right. Some people or situations *should* scare us
    Lia Rikugun: i think so too, but nothing should be soo scary that you are blocked
    Qt Core: i sadly have to go, bye all
    Lia Rikugun: bye Qt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care qt
    Bertram Jacobus: "it is what we do with the feeling that is useful" - ? i don´t understand that, sadly ... sry
    Lia Rikugun: (actually I dont want to give the story too much interpretation, i just want to take it as it is, a change of the story line, and a nice gift)


    where is Pema?

    Bertram Jacobus: why don´t we see pema anymore ? or is it only me ?
    Lia Rikugun: he is in japan i think
    Lia Rikugun: so sleeping tightly now probably
    Bertram Jacobus: i need a world watch ! :-)
    Wol Euler: yes, he's in Japan with Eliza!
    Bleu Oleander: he is starting a time session fridays at 6am slt tomorrow
    Calvino Rabeni: AHEM
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - too bad - then i have to work here ... in fl i mean ... :-(
    Bertram Jacobus: lol


    Lucis is joining us with an interesting outfit, a snake enrolled his avatar :)

    Bertram Jacobus: hy lucis
    Lia Rikugun: hello lucis take seat
    Bleu Oleander: hi Lucis
    Lucis Raynier: hy ))))
    Wol Euler: hello lucis, welcome back
    Lia Rikugun: have you been here before?
    Lucis Raynier: hello!
    lennox Leeeroy: hi
    Lia Rikugun: oh ok i guess :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lia Rikugun: what an interesting outfit
    Bertram Jacobus: heavy snake lol
    Bertram Jacobus: scary ! ;-)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello lucis
    Lia Rikugun: haha!
    Bertram Jacobus: lol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: how´s the breath ?
    Lucis Raynier: hello Yaku
    Lucis Raynier: ok))
    Bertram Jacobus: may be he´s a gift for us, too ? ;-)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lia Rikugun: yes :)
    Lucis Raynier: whata gift?
    Bertram Jacobus: we talked about scary things which can be turn into gifts lucis ... (!) ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: - be
    Lucis Raynier: well
    Archmage Atlantis: In the swamps around me the alligators and the pythons fight to the death, trying to eat each other - A constritor would be an interesting addition.
    Bertram Jacobus: and i´ll put a substraction : leave - ty all and may all beings be happy plz ! ;-)
    Lia Rikugun: in RL?


    Bertram, Archmage, Bleu and Lennox are leaving

    Wol Euler: bye bert, take care
    Lia Rikugun: bye bertram!
    Archmage Atlantis: Bye Bert
    Bleu Oleander: bye Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: namaste- ty
    Lucis Raynier: bye Bert
    Yakuzza Lethecus: namate bert
    Yakuzza Lethecus: namaste
    lennox Leeeroy: bye Bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: :-))
    Bleu Oleander: bfn :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
    Archmage Atlantis: Nice seeing you all.......I am going to need to go......time for meditation......Bye all :)
    Wol Euler: bye bleu, bye arch
    Lia Rikugun: bye arch and bleu
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye arch
    Lia Rikugun: take care
    lennox Leeeroy: bye
    Wol Euler: bye lennox
    Wol Euler: oh, were you talking to arch? :) sorry
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    lennox Leeeroy: sorry o have to go now. Interesting
    Lia Rikugun: nice to have you here lennox
    Lia Rikugun: byebye
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care lennox
    Lia Rikugun: hehe



    Again a small silence and Yaku raises an interesting question:

    Yakuzza Lethecus: sometimes i wonder under which circumstances i percieve silence as refreshing and under which i don´t
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lia Rikugun: now did you perceive it as refreshing?
    Wol Euler: a good question
    Calvino Rabeni: Good question
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, right now it´s actually more pleasant then it´s like when i come home from work and attend the 7 am session
    Lucis Raynier: My silence - because I have some problems with English Language )))


    We talk about russian and where we come from, what countries we have visited...

    Yakuzza Lethecus: whats ur native language lucis ?
    Lia Rikugun: :) practice practice
    Lucis Raynier: russian
    Lia Rikugun: minja sawut lia
    Lucis Raynier: wow
    Lia Rikugun: soemthing like this?
    Lucis Raynier: yes
    Lia Rikugun: the only sentance i can say :)
    Wol Euler: :)
    Lia Rikugun: kak tibia sawut?
    Lucis Raynier: but right: menia zovut Lia
    Lucis Raynier: menia zovut Lucis
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Lucis Raynier: what country you from Lia?
    Zon Quar: slips away and waves...
    Lia Rikugun: germany
    Wol Euler: bye zon, take care
    Lia Rikugun: bye ybe zo
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye zon
    Lia Rikugun: zon
    Lucis Raynier: bb Zo
    Lucis Raynier: I visited Germany in 2000 year
    Lia Rikugun: where did you go?
    Lucis Raynier: Iserlohn
    Lia Rikugun: and, did you like it?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, iserlohn is just 25 km from here :)
    Lucis Raynier: from here??
    Yakuzza Lethecus: which means i am in a 25 km circle around that city and that i am also living in germany and nrw :)
    Lucis Raynier: wow North WesFalia
    Lucis Raynier: yes
    Wol Euler: actually the germans are in the majority today :)
    Lucis Raynier: Munster I visited too
    Calvino Rabeni: I was in Germany about 2 years ago for a visit
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what did you do and where did you go cal ?
    Calvino Rabeni: I went to Frankfurt, Nuremburg, and then to Obersdorf (end of train)
    Lia Rikugun: nice
    Lia Rikugun: for vacation?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nuerburgring ?
    Lia Rikugun: nuernberg
    Calvino Rabeni: There was a big bike race around that old castle wall in nuremburg
    Wol Euler: hello liza
    Calvino Rabeni: How to spell ?
    Lucis Raynier: hi Liza
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey liza
    Liza Deischer: hi everyone
    Lia Rikugun: hello liza
    Lucis Raynier: you from Germany as well Lisa? ))
    Liza Deischer: no, Holland
    Lia Rikugun: and calvino you livein the united states?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i thought because i thought cal likes to drive motobikes :)
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Lia Rikugun: brb
    Lucis Raynier: some people don't like to mix RL and SL. But I like
    Calvino Rabeni: I do like to drive those Yaku
    Calvino Rabeni: In mountains, also in Thailand :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: you mean those for racing
    XXXXXX: beep beep
    Yakuzza Lethecus: meep meep
    Wol Euler: hello XXXXXX
    Liza Deischer: hi XXXXXX
    Lucis Raynier: XXXXXX! Hey!
    Lia Rikugun: back
    Liza Deischer: tutututuut
    Lia Rikugun: hello XXXXXX
    Lucis Raynier: whatplanet you from XXXXXX?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone
    Liza Deischer: bye Yaku :)
    Lia Rikugun: good night yaku
    Lucis Raynier: nite Yaku
    Lia Rikugun: will go to bed too
    Liza Deischer: nite Lia
    Wol Euler: bye lia, sleep well
    Lia Rikugun: take care you all! see you soon
    Wol Euler: (distracted, sorry)
    Calvino Rabeni: I need to go now - I think WOK is meeting?
    Wol Euler: oh yes, it is
    Liza Deischer: I think so too
    Liza Deischer: bye Cal :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye :)
    Wol Euler: bye cal, know well
    Lucis Raynier: my snake go sleping ))
    Wol Euler: :)
    Wol Euler: you're free for a while, then.
    Wol Euler: use the time wisely
    Liza Deischer: :)
    Lucis Raynier: :))
    Wol Euler: you're looking very tanned, liza
    Liza Deischer: only in sl :)
    Wol Euler: heheeh
    Wol Euler: same here actually
    Wol Euler: I avoid the sun in RL
    Liza Deischer: tiredness has me kept inside
    Liza Deischer: and I don't like this temperature
    Wol Euler nods
    Wol Euler: far too hot and humid :(
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Lucis Raynier: I think in SL ppl like they in soul - so more real than them appearance in RL ))
    Liza Deischer: no wind
    Wol Euler: very true lucis
    Wol Euler: here, you meet souls, without any of the baggage of RL bodies
    Lucis Raynier: and that/s why many ppl don't like to mix RL and SL
    Wol Euler: well there are other reasons too :)
    Liza Deischer: yes
    Wol Euler: for many people, SL really is better than their RL
    Liza Deischer smiles
    Lucis Raynier: meep
    Wol Euler: I should get to bed, I'm really tired. I had about four hours' sleep last night :(
    Wol Euler: goodnight all, take care
    Lucis Raynier: nite
    Liza Deischer: nite Wol, sleep well
    Liza Deischer: I'm going too
    Liza Deischer: nite Lucis
    Lucis Raynier: nite
    Lucis Raynier: nice to see you

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