2010.07.03 07:00 - Life Creating, Love and Fear

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Cosmicflower Ushimawa.

     

    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Sophia <3<3<3
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Cos :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good evening to you, I think it's evening
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and hmm, Good Morning (I guess it is morning) ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling widely
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes this happens ;)))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes i love it when it does
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes, me too ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Yakuzza :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey guys
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, wondering if meeting should "claim" also when beginning ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: girls
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hello Yaku <3<3<3
    SophiaSharon Larnia: when you claim it, the text is all there, from the beginning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s by far too hot for me
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Yaku really?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, okey, so its not needed to when beginning
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nope :D
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey, thanks ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s cloudy, high humidy and 34 degree celsius
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ooo la laa
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its warm ;)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes :) it is to be in the high 90's and humid here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: all week
    SophiaSharon Larnia: maybe even 100
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (F) :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Steven
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey steven
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hello stevenaia in the fountain ^^
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this would be a very good time for a swim
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes it would be
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, wondering about wishes
    stevenaia Michinaga: it certainly will me
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: have You noticed those mostrly come true?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: mostly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (sorry bell :)) )
    stevenaia Michinaga: didn;t they say that in Pinoccio?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hmm, I have found it out
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: need to wish well
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: wonders when the last time I made a wish
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps my birthday
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I think wishes are thought energies that can either lead to behaviors that fulfill those thoughts, whether it's something we would like, or not
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;) I kind of make those contiously
    stevenaia Michinaga: wishing, for me is jsut another form of the inevitability of fate
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think it also to be energy
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: kind of creating
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: a pushing affect?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, kind of
    SophiaSharon Larnia: an invoking, sort of
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: creating life
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: i have some study
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: about direct
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: clearly
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: usually very much different kind of "good wishes"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: separating them?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: perhaps makes them more powerfull??
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giving an energy to a thought by thinking about it a lot?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with Feel** ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if thinking much
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but not feel good about think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or issue
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: perhaps its need also love energy included?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: between you, me, everyone here, and the world because of the recorder, I think it includes everything
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Have You sucseeded?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha
    stevenaia Michinaga: Sopia.. wish includes everything?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to get those come true?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i tend to think that thoughts are things and if you think about something alot, it may shape what happens
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Right
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have noticed it takes about 1-2 years
    stevenaia Michinaga: thoughts define much
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to get happen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: some would say that it leads to behaviors to fulfill those things,a nd others would say that thoght has an energy itself
    stevenaia Michinaga: including yourself
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive kind of stopped trying to distinguish the two
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I feel it to be like a wish/ thing on thought level or on some dimension, then it gets food by thinking it with love energy, and then it start to appear to physical level
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha its not often i talk about this here ;))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think this is good to talk about
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: meaning
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: feeling i do create my life by my-Self
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but i dont think there is much a distinction between love energy and other kinds of energy that feeds it
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like thinking you are always 'bad' at something, and sure enough you are
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but when You think of it with a good feel, its energy
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: kind of it feed it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: gives that energy for "issue"
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bad at something?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: If I would think I would be bad at something
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I would take it to be teasing my-Self
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or punishing my-Self of something
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why would do so?
    stevenaia Michinaga: bad at something is the opurtunity to learn to improve
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm, do You mean if You do not Know something?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: know how`s
    stevenaia Michinaga: lacking knowledge or skill
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its not "bad"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I agree with above Cos, but I think the energy is neutral, it's own emotions that we put on it
    Yakuzza Lethecus sneaks away
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Yaz
    stevenaia Michinaga: Yak
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Yauzza :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bye
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but if there is lacking of knowledge or skil, there is always something to learn
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm glad to talk to you about this, its not something everyone is comfortable speaking about
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes there is :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am assuming that is what you meant by "bad at somethign" Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, i meant the thoughts that you think 'oh, i couldn't do this'
    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t let me define it for you
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if you think these thoughts, they influence things
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s a matter of your own expectation, not limits on your potential
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if thinking "I can`t do this or that" perhaps its then goes that way
    SophiaSharon Larnia: probably by your actions, but I don't want to rule out other influences
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is huge capasity
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what Can do
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or Learn
    stevenaia Michinaga: it would be like saying I only have a certain capacity for love when it is truely infinite
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: do we have certain capacity for Love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or is it Endless energy form?
    stevenaia Michinaga: perhaps the same thing
    stevenaia Michinaga: Love does sugest being energized
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what if can be endless well of Love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it moves in people
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: inside them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do beleive their is something altruistic that moves in people thats not related to survival
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: flowing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but im not one to talk about love
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, isn;t that love?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why not You to talk about Love?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have considered
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there are two things
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Love and Fear
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: people are also choosing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: their ways
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: every second
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: or love and not love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but they do not love, because there is fear to love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking of this planet
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what does people cearch for
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: why they go to work
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all need love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: they go to work
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to fullfill need of their loved ones
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this planet is a educational school of Love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: about loving or
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: denying
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: love-fear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm still thinking about what I think about this :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must go, thanks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Steve :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: It was nice to see You Steven
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: have Fun
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sure Sophia
    stevenaia Michinaga: let me know if you need any assistance with log posting Cosmicflower
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey, I will
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont think the opposite of love is fear, i think the opposite is disinterest
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: where disinterest come then?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont know, but i do think its a dualistic trap type thing :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I dont have any answers, but i do feel that it much more simple than i make it out to be
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: thinking
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes there are reasons to say NO too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: something simple and elegant
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eaven if not knowing why it feels so
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i know what you mean
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: for one`s own protection
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thinking about loves makes my thought turn to the world, and that makes me sad
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but seeing also how much good there are as well in the world, how much these times have opened them people
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: their hearts
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: to seek
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: love and truth
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is Hope
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and one thing I have realized lately is I have little tolerance for that kind of sadness
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Cos :))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: about suffering
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: that is something how to carry others too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: suffering "softens" people
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: makes them not so "proud"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just over sensitive to thinking about what humans do to humans
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and everyhting else
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan :) good morning
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Ewan
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its learning
    Ewan Bonham: God morning
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what humans do
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Good morning Ewan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes primate sociology
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i seem to wearing a mask very thing today :) maybe i should go lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thin*
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is nothing to be afraid of
    Ewan Bonham: That may be a time to stay...:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i cant seem to get past the pain of the world, it swallow me up sometimes, how boring
    Ewan Bonham: Nice, Cosmic...I haven't seen that before
    --BELL--
    SophiaSharon Larnia: 'hearts'
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: i think there is a "work" to do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: having discussions with others, about stepping back from emotions and just looking
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "in" that sorrow
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not trying to get rid of it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but comfort with empathy
    Ewan Bonham: Facing the sweetness of some pain
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds so simple
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or how it might heal also sometimes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it is
    Ewan Bonham: Yes
    Ewan Bonham: It may sound simple...but my experience is...it is not easy
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its more easy to hide
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: than carry those with pain
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: the more there are people carrying
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: the more there will be releasing
    Ewan Bonham: I think that is why we are here
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i do need to go, rl awaits :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to talk to you!!
    Ewan Bonham: Nice seeing you, Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye for now
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: have Fun Sophia, and hope to see You soon Dear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Nice to meet you Cosmic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Nice To meet You Ewan ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I guess You are from Us somewhere?
    Ewan Bonham: i have not yet had th pleasure
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Fla
    Ewan Bonham: And you?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: From Finnland
    Ewan Bonham: Oh, a bit cooler up there
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, now having summer and sun have shined all day ;)
    Ewan Bonham: Funny I don't think of new thought when i think of Finland
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but Yes, winter is cold and long
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, enjoy
    Ewan Bonham: When are you often here?
    Ewan Bonham: A six hour difference
    Ewan Bonham: Well, unless it is the weekends, we may not see each other
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey
    Ewan Bonham: But it sounded like Buddhist philospohy
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sry for staying on you ewan :)
    Ewan Bonham: Hell Yakuzza
    Ewan Bonham: Hello
    Ewan Bonham: Well, i must get to Rl , so I will see you both..I assume here.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye ewan
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i tp to a different place
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care cosmic
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