Page last modified 12:32, 11 Jul 2010 by fefonz

*The Guardian for this meeting was Fefonz Quan. The comments are by Fefonz Quan*.

According to a request, i removed from the log the lines from a specific paticipant. In order to try to keep coherency, i moved also the responses by other participants that addressed those lines.

Wol Euler: because unexplainable. There is no particular reason that I can see for me to be so happy today

Wol Euler: (that will be a most amusing first line of the log :))

YES it is!

Darren Islar: okay :)

Darren Islar: well, then let's not ask that question before you get miserable :)

Wol Euler: exactly.

Wol Euler: like children opening up a watch to see how it works

Wol Euler: and finding that it no longer does

Darren Islar: right

Darren Islar: nice metaphor

Wol Euler smiles.

Darren Islar: hi Bruce

Wol Euler: wotcha, bruce.

Darren Islar: is there a GoC tonight?

Wol Euler: hello blub

Darren Islar: hi Blub :)

Bruce Mowbray: wotcha, Darren and Wol!

Wol Euler: oh, was this one of the ungrabbed sessions?

Wol Euler: not any more :)

Darren Islar: :)

Darren Islar: I asked because it was mine, and I rather not get it tonight

Wol Euler: ah, ok. sure.

Darren Islar: wasn't here for the session anyway :)

Wol Euler: I'll do that. You've covered for me so often.

Wol Euler: I hear that Storm hasn't removed the lost onigokko yet :(

Darren Islar: I'm not having slots anymore

Darren Islar: no!!

Darren Islar: what happened :)

Bruce Mowbray: It was still here 6 hours ago.

Wol Euler: well, eliza dropped it instead of detaching it. That's a menu command in some older viewers

Wol Euler: the difference is that dropping makes it rez in-world

Wol Euler: where it sits, and sings, and sings, and sings, and sings, and sings, and sings, and sings, and sings ....

Darren Islar: and nobody couldn't find it

Wol Euler: oh I found it. no problem

Wol Euler: but I cannot *remove* it.

Wol Euler: only Storm has the authority to do that

Darren Islar: ah, yes, of course

Wol Euler: which is understandable, I would hesitate to give other people the right to remove prims form my land at Mugunghwa too.

Darren Islar: oh, I completely understand

Wol Euler: anyway.

Wol Euler: what's new? does anyone have a topic for today?

--BELL--

Darren Islar: sorry, no, and I'm leaving in a short while

Wol Euler: ok, np

Bruce Mowbray: life, the universe, and all that.

Bruce Mowbray: actually, I do have a '?'

Wol Euler: a pretty broad topic.

Wol Euler: ah!

Bruce Mowbray: It concerns sending in my notes for the Time as Magic group. . . sending them to the wiki.

Wol Euler: okay ...

Bruce Mowbray: How to I upload my notes . . .

Xeno Octavia: g'day folks ; )

Bruce Mowbray: Do I send them email to Pema?

Bruce Mowbray: or. . . ?

Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Xeno!

Darren Islar: hi Xeno

Wol Euler: ideally you would post them yourself, directly onthe wiki (I believe that's the procdure)

Wol Euler: hello xeon

Wol Euler: *xeno

Bruce Mowbray: But doin't I have to be registered there?

Bruce Mowbray: because that is not possible as I see it.

Bruce Mowbray: No registration form.

Wol Euler: ah, in that case an administrator needs to register you

Wol Euler: are you in hte e.mail discussion grup?

Wol Euler: *group

Darren Islar: he is not a guardian

Bruce Mowbray: I think that I am -- although I've not yet received any emails from that group.

Wol Euler: hello fef

Darren Islar: hi Fonz

Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Fef.

Fefonz Quan: hello all

Wol Euler: oh, is the time workshop thing guardians-only?

Wol Euler: that surprises me

Darren Islar: no, I don't think so, but there is nog google-group

Bruce Mowbray: No -- It is an open group -- Pema invited me into it.

Wol Euler: hmmmm

Darren Islar: different from the guardian group

Xeno Octavia: hyi Fef

Darren Islar: maybe Pema should make one

Fefonz Quan: one what?

Wol Euler: well, in that case I'd approach Pema. Explain that you want to post your notes to the wiki, and need a login. Let him deal with it from there

Darren Islar: right

Bruce Mowbray: OK -- I will do that. Thanks.

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone

Wol Euler: hello yaku

Bruce Mowbray: Hi again, Yaku.

Darren Islar: maybe you should ask next week Bruce

Darren Islar: hi Yaku

Xeno Octavia: hi Yaku

Fefonz Quan: heyaku

Darren Islar: so there was a GoC :)

Wol Euler: :)

Darren Islar: I'm leaving, have a nice session

Fefonz Quan: was where?

Yakuzza Lethecus: bye darren

Fefonz Quan: bye Darren

Wol Euler: bye darren, take care.

Xeno Octavia: by Dar

Bruce Mowbray: adios, Darren.

Xeno Octavia: any one have power over oni muse?

Wol Euler: only storm

Wol Euler shrugs. Turn your sound down. sorry.

Fefonz Quan: (hwat's as oni muse?)

Wol Euler: music from onigokko :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: 3:2 Deutschland!

Wol Euler: if you turn your sound up, you'll hear it

Wol Euler: there's an oni rezzed inthe trees, singing

Wol Euler: since 24 hrs

Xeno Octavia: yes wered lasst nite too

Wol Euler: yep

Yakuzza Lethecus: eliza would also be able to get that object back ?

Wol Euler: yep

Bruce Mowbray: that's the final, Yaku?

Yakuzza Lethecus: but i havenÂ´t seen it

Wol Euler: she could take it or delete it

Yakuzza Lethecus: nah, itÂ´s about the 3rd place :(

Bruce Mowbray: OK -- keep us informed, please.

Wol Euler: it's invisible but you can see it if you set "highlight transparent"

Wol Euler: it's in the lilac tree to my left, between the columns

Fefonz Quan: quite reddish view, this highlight

Wol Euler: yeah :)

Wol Euler: not very pretty

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray: attended a lively discussion this morning at Pamala Clift's "Think Tank" -- on gender identification in SL.

Wol Euler: damn and blast, yes, I'm so sorry I missed that :(

Xeno Octavia: kool ---and > > >

Bruce Mowbray: She assigned us 2 wks ago to get an opposite sex avi - and "walk in its shoes" for a while.

Bruce Mowbray: It was the most disconcerting thing I'd ever done in SL.

Wol Euler: do tell :)

Wol Euler: if it'Ã„s not too private

Bruce Mowbray: Could do it only two days. Never went back to her.

Bruce Mowbray: (the alt, I mean -- not Pamala).

Wol Euler: huh

Wol Euler: what was so distressing?

Xeno Octavia: i went ta noetic on remote viewing : )males cant b good fematars

Bruce Mowbray: The first distressing thing I noticed was. .

Wol Euler raises an eyebrow

Bruce Mowbray: that she (my alt -- named Sue Harcourt) was behaving stereotypically.

Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

Bruce Mowbray: I had projected onto her the WORST female stereotypes -- and, of course, I saw a mirror of myself there.

Wol Euler nods

Xeno Octavia: hmm

Yakuzza Lethecus: at least we are 3rd now

Wol Euler: mmhmm

Wol Euler: alts can teach us a lot of pretty amazing stuff :)(

Bruce Mowbray: She was passive, seductive, shy, coy --- NONSENSE!

Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyy!

Bruce Mowbray: Go Deutschland.

Fefonz Quan: I wouldn't generalize so quickly Xeno

Xeno Octavia: read gospel according to woman

Bruce Mowbray: May I step out for just a minute? ----

Wol Euler: sure

Wol Euler: (bruce)

Wol Euler: tell us a bit about it, xeno? we might not all have a copy of the book to hand, and the conversation would suffer while we read it

Xeno Octavia: how so Fef

Wol Euler: please do

Fefonz Quan: [13:20] Xeno Octavia: i went ta noetic on remote viewing : )males cant b good fematars

Wol Euler: hello qt

Qt Core: hi all

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey qt

Xeno Octavia: by Karen arnstrong --subtitle --christianitys creation of the sex wars in th ewest

Wol Euler: hello agatha

Agatha Macbeth: Greetings :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey aga

Qt Core: hi Agatha

Fefonz Quan: Hi Agatha, Qt

Agatha Macbeth: I see Eliza's onigokko is still going strong

Wol Euler: yep

Xeno Octavia: i turn volume down --out

Wol Euler: Xeno, thanks for the book title but could you explain a little how it is relevant to what you said?

Wol Euler: hello sue

Sue Harcourt: Hi, everyone.

Wol Euler: welcome bacdk

Qt Core: hi Sue

Wol Euler: *backj

Wol Euler: **back

Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sue

Xeno Octavia: it relavant to Bruces stereo typing of woman --rather than just being

Wol Euler: okay, and could you say a word or two of content or explanation, please?

Xeno Octavia: ah sneakky its Sue !!

Sue Harcourt passively listens as others talk about Bruce.

Wol Euler grins

Xeno Octavia: she basivcallty says that the christans startn more strongly in 200 AD plus identified woman with sex and evil --does into eve witches and i now at chapt on mystics [1st 2 negi and mysti posi

Wol Euler nods. I'll grant you that christianity has a strong anti-female bias

Wol Euler: but how does that prove that RL men can'T be good SL women?

--BELL--

Xeno Octavia: cooked women as witches for 200 yrs

Xeno Octavia: dont have to prove just noticing and responding to Bruce/Sue

Wol Euler: but you made a pretty strong statement, and I'd like to hear you say a word or two to back it up

Fefonz Quan: interesting how in Xeno's line about 200 AD the axiom of sex &/== evil went in so smooothly

Xeno Octavia: i talk from feeling not intellect so am saying it of women i kno who are men as well as what Bruce had sed --i wonder if Sue agrees with him?

Wol Euler: yes, sue, could you tell us a bit about your experiences in SL?

Yakuzza Lethecus: our local town was pretty big in burning witches

Sue Harcourt: what did Bruce say, anyway?

Sue Harcourt: Oh -- yes, I can tell you about my 2 day experience.

Sue Harcourt: For one thing -- I was silent and passive -- and Bruce is almost NEVER like that.

Xeno Octavia: that was Karens in book --she especially ment Jerome in that part then gets into Virgins and martyrs also see them in contemporary feminism

Wol Euler: [13:20] Bruce Mowbray: The first distressing thing I noticed was. . [13:20] Wol Euler raises an eyebrow [13:20] Bruce Mowbray: that she (my alt -- named Sue Harcourt) was behaving stereotypically. [13:20] Yakuzza Lethecus: :) [13:21] Bruce Mowbray: I had projected onto her the WORST female stereotypes -- and, of course, I saw a mirror of myself there. [13:21] Wol Euler nods [13:21] Xeno Octavia: hmm [13:21] Yakuzza Lethecus: at least we are 3rd now [13:21] Qt Core is Online [13:21] Wol Euler: mmhmm [13:21] Wol Euler: alts can teach us a lot of pretty amazing stuff :)( [13:21] Bruce Mowbray: She was passive, seductive, shy, coy --- NONSENSE!

Sue Harcourt: Thanks -- that brings me up to date on that cur.

Wol Euler: :)

Xeno Octavia: how would she be after a few months a yr when cleansed of u Bruce

Sue Harcourt: and I noticed that when I was Sue (not Bruce) other womewn spoke up more often and aire3d their feelings more.

Wol Euler nods

Sue Harcourt: This caused me to think that Bruce was intimidating to them.

Fefonz Quan: well, he is a MAN

Wol Euler: were you aware of acting differently?

Sue Harcourt: yes -- THAT is exactly my point.

Wol Euler: or did sue just speak "naturally"?

Xeno Octavia: no women are more intimate in communics men too into various forms of BS

Fefonz Quan: BS ??

Sue Harcourt: I tried to "just speak naturally" but found that I had some inner voice telling me that i "SHOULD" think and speak as a woman -- and this violated all of my beliefs about androgyny.

Agatha Macbeth: Being Seeing :)

Xeno Octavia: was he a man in ur fematar

Wol Euler nods thoughtfully.

Wol Euler: did the voice tell you how women should thnk and speak?

Wol Euler: that would be interesting to know

Sue Harcourt: Somewhere inside this woman named Sue was a "ghost" named Bruce.

Sue Harcourt: Very disconcerting.

Xeno Octavia: yes Sue its why gays have accent --faking fem rather than just being

Wol Euler finds that rather objectionable.

Sue Harcourt: Mmm. Interesting, could you say more about "gays" please. Xeno.

Agatha Macbeth: Gays have an accent?

Agatha Macbeth: Depends on their nationality I'd say ;-)

Xeno Octavia: what if in FL u were opposite sex in last lifetime is ghost still to present

Sue Harcourt: You see. . . I'm really having a lot of trouble with this.

Sue Harcourt: The stereotypes that are folating about in the coversation are driving me nuts.

Wol Euler: indeed

Sue Harcourt: "gays" accents?

Wol Euler: there is a lot of bias and prejudice being presented as fact

Agatha Macbeth looks up 'folating'

Xeno Octavia: in US where ever from many gays have sound set-up [or usta] there is term for but as i had noticed in FL were from imitating woman rather than just being one

Sue Harcourt: BRUCE----!!!! WHERE ARE YOU BRUCE!!???

Xeno Octavia: r any of u gay or kno gays ??

Sue Harcourt begs to be excused.... (politely and in a feminine manner...)

Fefonz Quan: Sue, if i may ask, where you troubled by the fact that you seems like acting in a stereotyped way, or by the fact that you wandered where have Bruce gone?

Wol Euler: I know dozens of gays, in many countries, xeno. Do you?

Agatha Macbeth: I know some yes

Xeno Octavia: lol Stay why not chase Bruce out ??

Xeno Octavia: lol too late

Xeno Octavia: i kno a few in the US --i go to other countries here in SL but not counts

Wol Euler: wb bruce

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bruce :)

Fefonz Quan: hi Bruce :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: at least you didn your homework bruce :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: did

--BELL--

Wol Euler: so you've had a pretty intense learning experience :)

Bruce Mowbray: Some folks in Pam's class did it for two weeks. I can't imagine that.

Wol Euler: I'm sorry that you were distressed, but you can also see it as a great chance to explore something new in yourself :)

Agatha Macbeth: Why distressed?

Yakuzza Lethecus: are there now 2 hidden onigokkos ?

Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it was an excellent learning opportuinity -- Just almost unbearable -- because it was like a mirror -- and not a friendly mirror.

Wol Euler nods.

Bruce Mowbray: I thought I was not a sexist and discovered that I really am after all --

Fefonz Quan: I had a thought about it - i guess most of the men here have dreams, and in those dreams there are women figures.

Wol Euler grins. "the first step to solving a problem, grasshopper, is to learn that you have one"

Agatha Macbeth: Animas?

Agatha Macbeth: (Animae?)

Bruce Mowbray: ;-) Excellent point, Wol.

Wol Euler nods to Fef

Bruce Mowbray: I've done a lot of Jungian work -- and this was not my anima.

Agatha Macbeth nods

Bruce Mowbray: This was a projection of "other" --

Fefonz Quan: And in those dreams, the women acts quite like women in RL - although created by our minds

Agatha Macbeth: Do you know who it was then?

Agatha Macbeth: Ah

Bruce Mowbray: Well -- the closest thing I can compare it to is racism...

Fefonz Quan: I still don't get why it showed you you are a sexist Bruce

Bruce Mowbray: Sometimes when I see a black individual on the TV -- there is this spontaneous "no" thing -- and I cannot image where that comes from -- except from my racist culture.

Xeno Octavia: have u tried a black av

Bruce Mowbray: So, it's like that with the female thing.

Bruce Mowbray: I do NOT like that in myself at all.

Wol Euler gives your hand a squeeze.

Bruce Mowbray: My best friend was a black male -- her alt of opposite sex,

Agatha Macbeth: Maybe a black female Av [grin]

Bruce Mowbray: Thans, Wol. I guess I needed that.

Wol Euler smiles.

Agatha Macbeth: In SL?

Bruce Mowbray: Yes -- that would be an excellent experience -- When I build my courage back up, I will try being a black female.

Agatha Macbeth smiles

Bruce Mowbray: Meanwihle, I am still trying to "be See" all of it.

Wol Euler: I can give you a LM to a store that has some *marvellous* black skins, really beautiful. "real people" skins

Agatha Macbeth can't "be See" any of it ;-)

Bruce Mowbray: Great --thanks. Please do.

Wol Euler digs around

Bruce Mowbray: This thing about gender identifican runs very deep - both culturqally and personally.

Wol Euler nods

Agatha Macbeth: Oh agreed!

Xeno Octavia: shud is in an imperitive or a conditional mode

Bruce Mowbray: I think you all have put yourfinger on the problem: Sue had all of these "should" going off in her head. Bruce does not have those.

Bruce Mowbray: Sure never felt free to be herself.

Xeno Octavia: so why he let her have them --prob not Bruce but his paratar

Fefonz Quan: So Bruce is a free man, not conditioned by culture?

Wol Euler nods

Wol Euler: so where does this social conditioning of hers come from?

Agatha Macbeth: Which do you find easier to be Bruce- a M Av or a F Av?

Bruce Mowbray: Bruce's para (in RL) is a hermit -- mostly because in retirement he has chosen not to be part of the sexist and racist culture of the state he lives ion.

Fefonz Quan: pointed*

Bruce Mowbray: So -- it was disconcerting to discover how many of the culture's stereotypes were there oppresing Sue -- dominating her behavior.

Xeno Octavia: and bruce's has had too long a masc habbit to change

Bruce Mowbray: oppressing.

Bruce Mowbray: perhaps -- but Bruce (although an old dog) is determined to learn some new tricks.

Wol Euler smiles

Wol Euler: never too late to improve.

Bruce Mowbray: I think your suggestion of using a Black ava (female) is a good place to begin.

Fefonz Quan: or to change :)

Wol Euler: "the best time to plant an oak tree was thirty years ago. The second-best time is right now."

Xeno Octavia: kool Bruce we support u in that --at least i do

Wol Euler: oh, definitely.

Bruce Mowbray: Thanks you. Now - let's talk about something else --

Wol Euler: (to support)

--BELL--

Bruce Mowbray thinks to himself: That was entirely TOO abrupt.

Wol Euler: :)

Bruce Mowbray: That bell came just ar the REIGHT time.

Bruce Mowbray: right.

Wol Euler: :)

Fefonz Quan: I'll take that bell as my offf que

Fefonz Quan: Good night all, and have a wonderful week

Wol Euler: bye fef, sleep well

Bruce Mowbray: Walk in peace, Fef.

Yakuzza Lethecus: sleep well fef

Agatha Macbeth: Bye Fonz :)

Yakuzza Lethecus: good night everyone

Fefonz Quan: _/!\_

Agatha Macbeth: Night Yaku

Xeno Octavia: nite Fef

Wol Euler: wb qt

Xeno Octavia: nite Yaku

Wol Euler: 'night yaku

Qt Core: wondering what happened

Wol Euler: huh, turn away for a moment and everyone leaves

Bruce Mowbray muses: ME TOO!

Xeno Octavia: looks that way

Agatha Macbeth: Using Linux or Windoze QT?

Qt Core: vista, i just have disablerd the wireless part of my router (and i'm on cord with this pc)

Agatha Macbeth: Ah, same here :)

Agatha Macbeth: Probably a Gates thing again...

Bruce Mowbray: Windows 7 is really a fine OS. Very fast and stable -- far superior to Vista, although I run both of them.

Qt Core: poor boy , let stop thinking he is the bad guy, it does not even work there anymore ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Ha, he's E-V-I-L !!!!!!!!

Wol Euler: :)

Qt Core: thinking abiut nuying me a 7 licence for my birthdasy ;-)

Bruce Mowbray: It's worth it, Qt.

Qt Core: and maybe even a pair of new hands...

Agatha Macbeth: Happy birthdaisy QT :)

Wol Euler: w7 is muuuuuuch better than xp or vista

Bruce Mowbray: ;-)

Qt Core: you say that only as it copied OSX a bit, wol

Wol Euler: no, I'm using it right now.

Xeno Octavia: an they talkin bout 8 now

Wol Euler: I actually (cough) like it

Bruce Mowbray: I have 7 on my laptop and love it.

Wol Euler: hallo bert

Qt Core: hi bertram

Xeno Octavia: hi Bert

Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Bert!

Bertram Jacobus: hi - whaow - still filled, the place ! :-)

Agatha Macbeth: Hello Berti :)

Bertram Jacobus: agatha knows my child name (!) ... ;o)

Qt Core: was you wishing to have the pavillion all for yourself, bert ? ;-)

Wol Euler: :)

Agatha Macbeth: You told me ;-)

Bertram Jacobus: naaaaaaah qt - in contrary ! happy to meet ya all :o)

Bertram Jacobus: sry - but ...

Bertram Jacobus: way too hoot !

Agatha Macbeth: Here too :(

Qt Core: you in the water and the fish flying is weirder and weirder

Bertram Jacobus: night will bring some degrees less ...

Wol Euler: yeah.

Bruce Mowbray splashes Bert.

Bertram Jacobus: lol

Bertram Jacobus: ty bruce

Wol Euler: it is supposed to rain tomorrow, that might help

Bertram Jacobus: and there are a lot of hints these days how to handle the heat ...

Agatha Macbeth: Move to Spitzbergen...

Qt Core: just droppiong the heat feeling

Wol Euler: or norway

Agatha Macbeth: Same thing

Qt Core: the nearest mountains over 1500 m is enough usually

Wol Euler: ah, true, silly me

Bertram Jacobus: i have now in ma room still 30.4Â° celsius (!) ...

Agatha Macbeth sighs

Agatha Macbeth: Open a window Bert

Wol Euler: it was 38 C downtown yesterday, far too hot.

--BELL--

Bertram Jacobus: are open already

Agatha Macbeth: Bang goes that theory

Bruce Mowbray: when it gets that hot, I hang out at the public libraqry -- let them pay for the A/C and the internet connection.

Wol Euler: heheh

Agatha Macbeth: And the air conditioning

Xeno Octavia: caqnt get here from librar

Bruce Mowbray: yes,, that's the A/C.

Agatha Macbeth: Not Alernating Current?

Bruce Mowbray: haha!

Agatha Macbeth: Or AC Milan?

Bruce Mowbray: well -- actually, I have the library pay for the air conditioning BECAUSE I don't want to pay for the alernating current.

Agatha Macbeth: I can relate to that

Bruce Mowbray: ;-)

Qt Core: this morning i was keeping up with the heat quite well, but in the afternon i stayed for several hours (groan) in a shopping mall with its violent AC, so now back at home i'm suffering the heat a lot more (i dislike AC)

Wol Euler: it is usually far too intense.

Bertram Jacobus: i like acs ... ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Acs?

Qt Core: i like simple fans

Wol Euler: people don'T realize that cooling from 38 degrees to 35 and abit less humid would be enough to make a pleasant differnece

Xeno Octavia: my FL weather ok --in mtns

Bruce Mowbray: maybe Qt would like to come into the pool and cool off a bit.

Wol Euler: or we could all go to the beach!

Xeno Octavia: not on the gULF

Agatha Macbeth: And build sandcastles

Bertram Jacobus: would you qt ? :-) - yes ! iÂ´d like to do taht wol :-)

Qt Core: trying something more radical to cool myself down

Bruce Mowbray: cold shower?

Bertram Jacobus: whaow - what is it ?! ;-)

Agatha Macbeth: Time travelling to the Ice Age

Bruce Mowbray: cooooool!

Bertram Jacobus: ( i still have a nice beach place wol) ...

Wol Euler: indeed you do :)

Wol Euler: with music, even

Bertram Jacobus: we could go there if it would be wished ...

Bertram Jacobus: yess :-)

Wol Euler watches in amazement as QT transforms

Bruce Mowbray: all of us?

Bertram Jacobus: sure bruce

Bruce Mowbray: OMG! That's "cool" for sure!

Bertram Jacobus: would you like to come to my / our beach place ladies and gentlemen ?

Agatha Macbeth: And blue

Wol Euler: yes please

Bruce Mowbray: Sure!

Bertram Jacobus: with music and dances ?

Qt Core: ok

Bertram Jacobus: ok - i recommend nite setting ... :-)

Wol Euler: I have a LM so I'll remain here to TP anyone whom Bert forgets :)

Wol Euler: he'll TP you in a moment

Xeno Octavia: well guess i can go home now : ))

Wol Euler: hello steve

Wol Euler: we're just leaving

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Wol, Xeno and Cute

stevenaia Michinaga: :)

stevenaia Michinaga: I was jsut getting here

Wol Euler: how's your weekend?

Xeno Octavia: hi Steve but there TP

stevenaia Michinaga: see ya

stevenaia Michinaga: weekend good

stevenaia Michinaga: how is WOl

Wol Euler: we are going to Bertram's beach

Wol Euler: want to come along?

stevenaia Michinaga: sure

stevenaia Michinaga: never wnated to work anyway

Wol Euler: ok, I'll TP you from there

stevenaia Michinaga: thx

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Agatha MacBeth says:

'Can males be good Fematars?' - Well I have no complaints (as yet) :-)))

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