2010.07.14 07:00 - All about Bruce and fish

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

    Bruce Mowbray: Lucinda -- good to see you again!
    Lucinda Lavender: Good Morning Bruce and Blub!
    Lucinda Lavender: Lately I have been very unaware of the bell.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: The every first one -- the same for me.
    Lucinda Lavender: I had set my audio way down and unticked the streaming media.
    Lucinda Lavender: In order to participate somewhere else where hearing is quite problematic.
    Lucinda Lavender: Has the bell been happening?
    Bruce Mowbray: yes. I almost never do streaming -- but the background sounds here (birds) are so similar to those at my RL location that it is literally impossible for me to distinguish between them.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the bell has been happening every 15 minutes.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes same for me about the birds
    Bruce Mowbray: background sounds.
    Lucinda Lavender: ok
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Gaya!
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Gaya.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bruce and Lucinda :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Sharon :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Lucinda was just wondering about the sounds here -- whether the bell was ringing regularly (it is) - due to her sound settings... and I commented that the background sounds here are almost identical to those in my RL setting -- indistinguishable, in fact.
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Sharon.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Gaya, Bruce, Lucinda :)
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmm working on the preferences but still no sounds except typing
    Bruce Mowbray: got your volume on?
    Bruce Mowbray: of course -- if you can hear typing!
    Bruce Mowbray: ;0
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Sophia Sharon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the sounds are like my rl home too Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-) wonderful.
    Gaya Ethaniel: brb
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in fact there have been a few times here where time/space slipped and the sounds joined a bit
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sitting here
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Lucinda and I had both commented on that phenomenon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh :)
    Bruce Mowbray: wb, Gaya.
    Lucinda Lavender: wb Gaya
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I wanted to at one time record the sounds outside and import them into SL, I've built a reproduction of my rl house in SL also
    Gaya Ethaniel: gah SL isn't very friendly to me today ...
    Gaya Ethaniel: ty
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Gaya :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i see that Gaya :(
    Lucinda Lavender: SSL I would find that an interesting project!
    Bruce Mowbray: a home inside a home inside a home ;-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, it was surreal building my rl house in SL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that was recent, around the time I had the dream of meeting my avatar in the living room
    Lucinda Lavender: I was just reading...home is where we remember who we are.
    Lucinda Lavender: ah! I remember that dream
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh Lucinda?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (the reading :)) )
    Lucinda Lavender: saw it on Edens Twitter I think
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I have been awake a while this morning...
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i mean to check twitter and forget
    Lucinda Lavender: Yes I don't go there much be was just ranging around.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah a ranger!
    Lucinda Lavender: exploring...


    Lucinda Lavender: Home on the Range!
    Lucinda Lavender: Lucinda is waiting for the Bell...and hope it appears for her...
    Gaya Ethaniel: Just rang ... did you hear it Lucinda?
    Lucinda Lavender: no!
    Gaya Ethaniel: The fountain went misty ...
    Lucinda Lavender: no bell for me!
    Gaya Ethaniel: That's the sign.
    Gaya Ethaniel: hm ... maybe relog?
    Lucinda Lavender: one of my settings must be changed...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan :)
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry of talking through if I did!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Ewan! The bell is loud and clear for moi.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what did the reading say, Lucinda?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles, have fun Ewan
    Gaya Ethaniel: How was the pause Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: The pause was good -- am aware of cranial pressure, though -- as if the neurons are very busy and generating head head -- contributing to global warming . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: head heat.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Do you have own practice in RL?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes -- I sat for about 40 minutes before getting on-line this morning.
    Bruce Mowbray: That's when I became aware of the head heat.
    Gaya Ethaniel listens.
    Bruce Mowbray: Too much synaptic resistances?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: listens also
    Bruce Mowbray wonders: If we all cooled down our thought processes a bit, maybe that could off-set global warming.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ( i think Ewan home is set to here ^.^)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I can't say ... Bruce.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yeah, I think Ewan camps here...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I camp here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Bruce Mowbray: I've seen him zip in and out many times ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I camp at a zendo -- Prison Dharma -- at Commonwealth Island.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: kept meaning to check that out
    Gaya Ethaniel: Ewan?
    Bruce Mowbray: [fingers aren't working yet.]
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ...
    Gaya Ethaniel: Have you been practising meditation for many years Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, more than 40.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... how did you come across it?
    Bruce Mowbray: When I lived in Berkeley in the 1960's -- encountered Ram Dass there and followed him.
    Gaya Ethaniel Googles Ram Dass ... ranges the net.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: aka Richard Alpert -- who worked with Tim Leary at Harvard before they both got fired for research on LSD.
    Bruce Mowbray: The character on LOST (Richard Alpert) was named after him.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Gaya Ethaniel: ack ... I haven't watched the programme ... continues to range the net.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I don't watch it either :) Every time i checked it out they were still lost
    Bruce Mowbray: The most amazing series (6 years long) I'd ever seen on TV -- and milions agree with that.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: true
    Bruce Mowbray: very literary -- philosophical -- artistic -- intellectually stimulating -- amazing metaphors!
    Gaya Ethaniel: What are his teachings if you can condense it Bruce?
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks for the heads up Bruce.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Ram Das -- follows a Hindu route, mostly - although very synergistic (eclectic). Wrote several books on meditation and awakening.
    Bruce Mowbray: Dass.
    Bruce Mowbray: The Only Dance There Is
    Bruce Mowbray: Grist for the Mill
    Bruce Mowbray: Journey of Awakening
    Bruce Mowbray: Be Here Now =-- was his first and most influential book.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... does he favour any specific meditation techniques?
    Bruce Mowbray: His is a path of Bakti (sp?) Yoga -- a path of adoration-love (for his guru) -- But he is completely open to other paths.
    Lucinda Lavender: Not long ago I had a dream where his book Be here Now was apparent to me on a bookshelf in a prominent way.
    Gaya Ethaniel: So much like guru yoga in Tibetan traditions I guess.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes -- large format -- blue cover.
    Gaya Ethaniel: How does it work?


    Bruce Mowbray: Ram Dass autobiography...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for some reason grist for the mill reference reminds me of hamlets mill, a myth some see as a progression on the equinox's, there is probably no connection
    SophiaSharon Larnia: of*
    Bruce Mowbray: In my RL Quaker Meeting last Sunday, I "spoke out of the silence" and said that I would not be alive if it were not for meditation.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah you read the book Lucinda?
    Bruce Mowbray: The principle of Grist for the Mill and also of The Only Dance Their Is -- is very similar to PaB.
    Bruce Mowbray: There Is.
    Bruce Mowbray: -- sorry.
    Bruce Mowbray: It is that EVERYTHING can become part of the "work" -- or, in our case, part of the Play (the Dance).
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhakti_yoga
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh There is the right spelling.
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm rusty with Hinduism stuff ... I think bakti means devotion?
    Lucinda Lavender: Many years ago...read it.
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, devotion -- usually to one's guru.
    Bruce Mowbray: but also to various gods and goddesses...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I also watched a show yesterday, calling the dance of two stars immolating themselves in a their black holes as a cosmic dance, and the interaction of matter as the cosmic dance, too (dance of shiva) -- i digress tho, sorry
    Bruce Mowbray: My path is more Buddhist-contemplative-mystical.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hindus practice bakti through rituals etc. ... curious how Ram Das students practise.
    Bruce Mowbray: "the dance of Shiva" -- amazing stuff - - - out-picturing everywhere.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... ok so not identifying Ram Dass as a deity then?
    SophiaSharon Larnia sit on hands
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh now -- that is the very LAST thing he would advocate!
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok ^^;;;
    Bruce Mowbray: no.
    Gaya Ethaniel: I did wonder ... so it's the traditional Hindu practices you meant.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Rather than Tibetan guru yoga type ...
    Bruce Mowbray: Yeah, I could never relate to the guru thing -- even though I've been with Ram Dass in person a few times.
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, Hindu.
    Bruce Mowbray: To me "the meanest flower that blows does often bring thought too deep for tears." -- Wordsworth.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ?
    Bruce Mowbray: thoughts to deep for.
    Bruce Mowbray: too.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sorry not understanding the quote in this context ... slow today >.<
    Bruce Mowbray thinks to self: "Either get those finger to work better or sit on them!"
    Gaya Ethaniel: heh :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: The quote - for me - means that every leaf and flow functions as my "guru" -- Is a teaching in itself for me.
    Bruce Mowbray: flower.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Do not need physical human guru.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: everything grist for the mill
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes! Exactly, Sharon!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I agree, although the meandering paths seem to go on and on
    Gaya Ethaniel: Well I don't know much but I believe guru/yidam in guru yoga practice isn't always one's living teacher.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: easy to get sidetracked
    Gaya Ethaniel: It can be like what you described Bruce. Depends ...
    Bruce Mowbray: It can be ANYTHING . . . Buddha-Nature is omni-present.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: no boundaries in spiritual ACCESS.
    Bruce Mowbray: Honouring all paths.
    Gaya Ethaniel nods.
    Lucinda Lavender: HI Bleu!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Bleu :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Bleu.
    Lucinda Lavender: Well I am waiting again for the bell. Saw the mist last time but no bell mentioned in the dialogue box.
    Gaya Ethaniel: SL is a bit strange for me too today ...
    Lucinda Lavender: and no sound


    Bruce Mowbray: You will see green print in the chat box - also.
    Lucinda Lavender: hope so...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: seeing a big mill in the 90 seconds, that turned into a potters wheel
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sorry for being so curious :P Have you been going to Quaker meetings for a while too Bruce?
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: for only 3 year -- A big mill -- Sharon (the one with grist in it?)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I once had along chat with a Quaker in RL and it seems many of them are interested in meditation.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a water turbine that turned into a potter wheel and i was shaping clay
    Bruce Mowbray: beautiful image-metaphor!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i wonder how much of that is shaped by my hazy beliefs
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sits on hands again
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: You often visualise things during pauses Sharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I often visualize everything, i wish i could stop sometimes
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've never been to a quaker meeting :) I've been meaning to for years
    Bruce Mowbray: They are very diverse -- especially in America -- everything from Christ-centered to atheist.
    Bruce Mowbray: Ours tends toward the latter.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Bruce's pet reminds me of a goldfish I had a looong time ago.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I just saw it I think Gaya ^^
    Gaya Ethaniel: heheheh
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub bubbles his joy at hearing that!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Gaya Ethaniel: Mine was called 'Bubbly' :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub gets excited and swims faster.
    Gaya Ethaniel: I read a bit about Quaker movements in US in Tolstoy's book recently.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Visitor :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi  Visitor
    Bruce Mowbray: G'Day, Visitor.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Lucinda :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Lucinda had to leave? I missed saying bye ...
    Gaya Ethaniel: wb
    Bruce Mowbray: I sit with Friends because it is the only RL meditation group within 50 miles of where I live.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Bruce
    Gaya Ethaniel IMing Visitor with intro :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Lucinda :)
    Lucinda Lavender: just trying to hear the bell next time
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: You're welcome to join us, Visitor. Pitch your tent in the front row, if you like.
    Bruce Mowbray: join.
    Bruce Mowbray: We don't bite -- just nibble.
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I see ... 50 miles is a long way.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bebe
    Bruce Mowbray: Columbus, Ohio --- north of where I live in RL.
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah I see ...
    Bruce Mowbray: Visitor just disappeared - probably thought his bathrobe was not appropriate here.
    Gaya Ethaniel gives a fish to Lucinda ...
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks Bruce!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: plays



    Bruce Mowbray: Oh! A WHITE HORSE!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D nice Gaya lol
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Just wear it Lucinda :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thank you Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: yw :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: being
    Lucinda Lavender: on my shoulder
    SophiaSharon Larnia: at
    Gaya Ethaniel: cute :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laggy :) oops
    Bruce Mowbray muses to self: "I LOVE this inter-being with all species!"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: oh Sharon's fishes are gone?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol
    Bruce Mowbray: there they are again.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was a little laggy, but not too bad
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
    Bruce Mowbray: A cowbird comes to my window every morning when I am meditating.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a what?
    Bruce Mowbray: He (she) pecks at the window as if to call me outside.
    Bruce Mowbray: I named him "Luther."
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Bruce Mowbray: (thinking his coloration was like robes ---)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I haven't named birds that frequent my garden yet.
    Gaya Ethaniel ponders ...
    Bruce Mowbray: I imagine Luther wearing robes . . . don't know why.
    Bruce Mowbray: He has come literally every day for weeks.
    Gaya Ethaniel: It is strange ... I used to love naming things.
    Bruce Mowbray: I once had a bull staying in my barn... inside a corral.
    Bruce Mowbray: My neighbor's rooster fell in love with my bull.
    Gaya Ethaniel: lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh my
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: The rooster walked down the road almost a quarter of a mile daily to visit the bull.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a doom match?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: doomed*
    Bruce Mowbray: Would walk back and forth in front of the corral for an hour or so, then return home.
    Bruce Mowbray: I took many photos.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: love from afar
    Bruce Mowbray: Have often wondered -- what was going on there?
    Gaya Ethaniel: heh :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggling in rl
    Gaya Ethaniel: I think a dog fell in love at first sight with me yesterday.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww!
    Lucinda Lavender: nice!
    Bruce Mowbray: a wonderment - - a sort of miracle, I thought then.
    Gaya Ethaniel: S/he probably thought I was a dog :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: heheh
    Lucinda Lavender: nice to see you all..
    Bruce Mowbray: say more, Gaya.
    Lucinda Lavender: till later...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Lucinda!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks for coming Lucinda. Have a good day :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
    Bruce Mowbray: Walk in beauty, Lucy.
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks...
    Gaya Ethaniel: It's already 8 am ... I should get going to.
    Gaya Ethaniel: too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, me too *smiles*
    Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks for the conversation. Enjoy your day :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Gay :)
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. Me too -- want to take Bear Dog for a walk through the woods now.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: um Gaya
    Bruce Mowbray: May all be happy today.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you too Bruce!!
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good bye for now, Sharon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ~waves~

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