2010.07.16 06:00 - Time Session 2

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    This was a session in the series of Play as Being sessions on the topic of TimeThe comments are by Pema Pera.

    When I arrived, a minute or so before six, there were already several participants and I caught the tail of a brief conversation, followed by several rounds of greetings.

    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Riddle, Ewan, Yaku, Sharon.
    Riddle Sideways: hi Bruce, Pema
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it was very interesting tho Im glad to have watched it
    SophiaSharon Larnia: er, listened
    Pema Pera: Hi everybody!
    --BELL--
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey max
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Maxine :)
    Pema Pera: good afternoon here, Yaku; I'm in Copenhagen :)
    Riddle Sideways: hi Maxine
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what an interpretation
    Maxine Walden: hi, Riddle, Pema, sophiasharon, and all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (sorry)
    Maxine Walden: still rezzing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bleu Hi Eden :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Bleu, Eden
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Pema, Bleu, and Max.
    Bruce Mowbray: and Eden.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi eden,bleu :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Adams
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Adams
    Pema Pera: hi Bleu, Eden, Adams!
    Eden Haiku: Good morning, good afternoon,good night everyone :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-) HGi, Adams.
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello everyone :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Adams
    Pema Pera: Hi Eliza
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Eliza
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Eliza
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
    Eden Haiku: Eliza ;))
    Riddle Sideways: This is such fun saying Hi to everybody

    Yes, I agree with Riddle, especially while we are in a session, following the waves of arrivals and greetings; reading all this later in a chat log might be a bit tedious, but with the greeting sentences being quite short, it's not too difficult to quickly glance or skip over them.

    Yakuzza Lethecus: morning eliza and adams
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema, Sharon, Riddle, Adams, Bleu, Ya, Eden, Bruce, Ewan :)))
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it is riddle :)
    Ewan Bonham: morning
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: OH, and Hi Maxine... you just now rezzed
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: hi, Eliza me too just rezzed
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Darren and Lucinda!
    Pema Pera: and Fef!
    Ewan Bonham: Ihave found that upgrading to latest version of Emerald has reduced some of the rezzing factor
    Riddle Sideways: Hi fef
    Darren Islar: hi everyone :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Darren, Lucinda, and Fefonz :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Darren, Lucinda and fefonz
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Fef aand Darren.
    Riddle Sideways: hi lucinda
    Bleu Oleander: hi Lucinda, Fef and darren
    Fefonz Quan: Just in time :) hi all
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Luci.
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Darren
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Darren, Luiinda (nice new clothes!) , Fef :)
    Maxine Walden: so wonderful that so many people can make this time
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed :)
    Bleu Oleander: full house today!

    There would be fifteen of us soon.

    Maxine Walden: yes!
    Pema Pera: :)
    Bleu Oleander: wonderful
    Pema Pera: shall we get started?
    Adams Dubrovna: Storm will have to build bleachers soon
    Maxine Walden: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: glad to see half a dozen new reports!
    Pema Pera: does anyone like to comment on either the text that we read, or the reports that have been contributed?
    Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Time_Sessions is the web site where to start to read
    Riddle Sideways: For the Time Being
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: hi Hana!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Hana :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Hana :)
    Darren Islar: hi Hana
    Hana Furlough: hi everybody!
    Riddle Sideways: hi Hana

    We turned to the reports, and it was very stimulating to hear so much appreciation being expressed about the various reports that had accumulated in addition to the earlier round of reports .

    Pema Pera: how is your injured knee, Eden? I enjoyed the beautiful picture you added to your report!
    Eden Haiku: Your report about taking shelter for a moment from the rain in a small town in Sweden was a beautiful illustration of the first chapter of the text Pema :) It made everything so vivid and clear!
    Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/Time_Sessions/2010%2f%2f07%2f%2f16%3a_Reports/2010%2f%2f07%2f%2f14%3a_Eden_Haiku
    Riddle Sideways: The writting and reports were sooooo good it got me to come to this sessions
    Maxine Walden: maybe just to mention as we begin, the attendance here today, and last time too tho not quite so many as I recall, but the enthusiasm in coming and in the reports is noteworthy.
    Eliza Madrigal: oh, yes gorgeous report Eden. Thank you
    Pema Pera: glad to hear that, Riddle -- and Eden :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I liked the imagery in Adams too, all those slides! snaps in time
    Pema Pera: yes, Maxine! Our main challenge is now how to find a form to take it all in and talk about it :-)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles @ Riddle... very nice to see you here
    Maxine Walden: we seem to be bringing clarity and curiosity to this exploration...
    Eden Haiku: I'm doing with my knee what our friend Zen is doing in the hospital: seeing it as part of mys spirituall practice and "having no preferences" (For hiking as an example :))
    Ewan Bonham: Would that be similar to the idea of making momentary choices
    Ewan Bonham: no preferences
    Maxine Walden: perhaps, Pema, as we gather our experiences and share them here a coming together, putting into words, may occur
    Eden Haiku: Adams's report was both funny and sad: all this work, all these slides, all this effrt through time and now where can we find projectors for slides :(
    Ewan Bonham: no obstructions to present guideance
    Ewan Bonham: guidance
    --BELL--
    Bleu Oleander: how to contemplate "mere appearance" "existance in a world" and "what is real" ..... thoughts from your first chapter haunt me during my 9 sec practices this week .... haven't posted my notes yet

    That's fine; no need at all to rush to get notes posted within one week.  Most explorations have resonances with other explorations, so we can write reports about older explorations the next week or later as well.

    Eden Haiku: And how stories can be told differently by different family members, Eliza, it made me grin :)
    Adams Dubrovna: (Not too sad Eden...faculty and students have far more choices with digital)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I found myself wanting to breathe and be patient to go through so many slides and changes... taking so much in, when reading Adams's report ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: To refer to your book, Pema, do you think this habitation to time is in part what seperate me from not-me?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)Eden
    Bleu Oleander: is there such a thing as "pure" perception?
    Ewan Bonham: I have never attained it
    Bruce Mowbray: "Being seeing?"
    Pema Pera: I'll talk about that in the next chapter, Sharon -- it's very much related to a belief in existence
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bleu Oleander: how much does our past experience enter into how we perceive "mere appearance"?
    Ewan Bonham: bleu
    Eden Haiku: Good question Bleu :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: expectation?
    Ewan Bonham: That is aintrospective study in itself
    Eden Haiku: Aren't we limited by our past experience?
    Eden Haiku: How to step from it?
    Ewan Bonham: For me, that is where time may be blurred
    Bruce Mowbray: What is "past experience" - but memory?
    Eliza Madrigal: These are good questions to ask ourselves as we pause and explore... wouldn't it be different/unique for each?
    Maxine Walden: perhaps all the 'slides' and moments of experience we 'store', questions which arise, are all logether aspects of Being...
    Bleu Oleander: our personal memories color our perceptions?
    Eden Haiku: Ha!
    Maxine Walden: agree, bleu
    Bruce Mowbray: But if we lose our memories of things, do we thereby lose our Being?
    Ewan Bonham: i do think I must open my mind to how I am affected by thought habits from the past
    Ewan Bonham: It becomes like a lens I look through
    Darren Islar: :-) Bruce
    Ewan Bonham: Bruce, i think a key is awareness
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, not like losing but seeing... loosening
    Eden Haiku: But epiphanies happen, where we seem to enter a new world...

    And in fact, following this conversation itself felt like stepping into a new world.  It is hard to convey here, in a chat log, the lively sense of dynamic and flow during the exchange; sentences followed each other quickly and fluidly, but without any sense of crowding or rush.  Quite remarkable, I thought, while reflecting on it.

    Ewan Bonham: Yes, i agree Eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: - - are "Hopes" also a lens, Ewan.
    Bleu Oleander: the 9sec breaks help me move past "mere appearance" one smidge at a time
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, bleu, it helps me to stop and get my bearings again
    Riddle Sideways: or not
    Eliza Madrigal: Eden... if we can loosen our grip on the 'old' one... but it isn't really that there is an old one either? hehe
    Ewan Bonham: Bruce, perhaps anticipation of the future also affects my perceptions
    Bruce Mowbray: undoubtedly so, for me.
    Eden Haiku: He he Eliza ...:)
    Bleu Oleander: so in thinking about time and the back and forth of memories and a fresh look at the world .... hmm
    Bleu Oleander: time seems circular in some ways
    Eden Haiku: Waiting for Bleu amazing conclusion...ah, a circle...a puzzle!
    Fefonz Quan: circular in what ways Bleu?
    Riddle Sideways: cyclical
    Ewan Bonham: hmmm
    Maxine Walden: maybe we are noting how 'stuck' we can be in past, present, future...shaping our lens...but speaking about it together helps me be aware of that stuckness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have been very aware of something encapsulated
    Bruce Mowbray muses: "The seasons of time. . . "
    Eliza Madrigal: this is somehow what I found myself musing on yesterday... after posting the report earlier in the week... arriving/departure, death/life, new/old.... somehow are more 'in the same place' in observation/noticing... somehow...
    Bleu Oleander: fresh experience .... forms memories .... memories then add to next fresh experience that then affects memories .... on and on ... layers of time
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, i do find i get stuck in the past and future...
    Ewan Bonham: Would like to stay in the present
    Eden Haiku: When I was a kid, in catholic church, I would picture time as the religious celebrations on a wheel: Christmas being on top and the Assumption of the Virgin close to my birthday :)

    During fluid exchanges like this, often memories play vivid roles, taking on lives of their own, connecting us with aspects of ourselves that we may have forgotten.

    Eliza Madrigal smiles @ Eden
    Fefonz Quan nods to Bleu, not to mention that memories themsellves are fresh experiences when we 'remember'
    Bleu Oleander: exactly Fef :)
    Eliza Madrigal: they can be, or memories can be potholes that we fall into when not attentive ...
    Bruce Mowbray: ouch!
    Maxine Walden: :) Eliza
    Fefonz Quan: 'fall to' in what sense?
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Eliza..I like the word Attentive
    Eliza Madrigal: defaults... like "I've been stuck here going over and over this story" and didn't notice that I was....
    Eden Haiku: @Eliza, very true. Potholes or teleports also maybe?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh! yes Eden!
    Ewan Bonham: Yes
    Fefonz Quan: there sems to be a fine line here between memories and thouhts
    Eliza Madrigal: hmm, yes
    Fefonz Quan: thought*
    Ewan Bonham: Fef, for me thoughts are in the present
    Fefonz Quan: that was my point exactly Ewan!
    --BELL--
    Riddle Sideways: ah, and where there are fine lines ... they can be crossed/erased
    Fefonz Quan: we tend to think of memories as 'in' the past
    Fefonz Quan: while in fact they are 'of' the past
    Fefonz Quan: and we think about them right now
    Eliza Madrigal: nice distinction Fef... and we change them as we remember...
    Bleu Oleander: seems we are limited by language in our perceptions and our descriptions of experiences
    Bruce Mowbray: "past" and "future" are imaginary, then?
    Bleu Oleander: language as a mask in some sense of perception?
    Ewan Bonham: Bleu..I do perceive with my heart as well

    Maxine summed up what I'm sure many of us felt:

    Maxine Walden: I am aware of a gratitude as we talk here, feeling that it may help me to stay very open as I go into a weekend feeling entirely open to the new...without expectations
    Eden Haiku: Present might be imaginary as well Bruce ;)
    Riddle Sideways: limited, but so changed by the changing of one word in a sentence
    Fefonz Quan nods to Bleu
    Darren Islar: imaginary is something different then being present in the 'now'
    Pema Pera: /nods to Maxine
    Bleu Oleander: yes Ewan, that's what I'm saying .... perceive with our being, but hard to put into words
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, thank you Maxine...
    Bruce Mowbray nods to Eden.
    Ewan Bonham: nods to Darren
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eden Haiku: As soon as we are aware of the 'present' it becomes the past.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Fefonz Quan: /nods to eden
    Eden Haiku: @Maxine, what a great outlook on this coming week end. I will adopt that!
    Maxine Walden: :) Eden
    Fefonz Quan: So is our'awareness makes the present into the past
    Bruce Mowbray: Do some "frames" of mind tend to "keep" us more present: like love, joy, well-being, etc.?
    Riddle Sideways: of course they do
    Ewan Bonham: Bruce, i do think joy is more present oriented
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, and what role does imagination play in those frames of joy, etc... ie how much is determination, etc, even when hidden
    Fefonz Quan: give us less reasons to run away from it :)
    Bruce Mowbray: so are these "prim-al" thought?

    I couldn't help thinking about "low-prim-count thoughts" and thoughts that were "prim-heavy" (^_^)

    Eden Haiku: A "steering from joy' in your report Bruce, how nice!
    Bruce Mowbray: thatnks -- Steering BY joy.
    Darren Islar: so is pain more present oriented
    Darren Islar: or any feeling for that matter, or not of course
    Eden Haiku: Oups!
    Bruce Mowbray: don'tagree, Darren. Pain is picking up a bit of "past" -- as when one puts hand under hot water and it takes a sec to FEEL it - although the senses have already jerked the hand away.
    Ewan Bonham: Darren, for me, pain and suffering detract from the present
    Darren Islar: I think awareness is the real 'power'
    Bruce Mowbray: agree, Ewan.
    Darren Islar: if I burn my hand right now, it is not past
    Ewan Bonham: yes, Darren
    Bruce Mowbray: I feel pain just a bit later -- after my body has already responses to it.
    Darren Islar: why should joy keep us in the present and pain not?
    Fefonz Quan also feels that pain can bring oneself to the momoent, by its urgency
    Eliza Madrigal: so awareness... is that a choice or a response ?
    Fefonz Quan: oihh, that's a deep one Eliza
    Riddle Sideways: Eliza, that is your big question
    Bruce Mowbray: any sharing my own experience of pain -- I might have a retarded capacity there.
    Darren Islar: :) need to think that over
    Ewan Bonham: Eliza, for me the more I exercise the choice, the more attentive is the response
    Darren Islar: I think it starts as a choice, but can become habitual
    Bleu Oleander: also struck by the notion of "appearance as more fundamental than existence" is appearance reality?

    Afascinating question, to be explored; and rather than immediately trying to find an answer, it may be even more interesting to ponder what an answer might look like.  What would it mean to answer "yes" or "no"?  What difference would it make?  What could such an anwer be based on?

    Ewan Bonham: Like a conscious focusing
    Maxine Walden: Joy is is such a lovely sense: for me the carrier of the trust, faith, curiosity about proceeding without expectation or doubt
    Ewan Bonham: mindfulness
    Darren Islar: so it can change in a response, not suggesting that awareness has a trigger
    Hana Furlough: smiles at Maxine
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lovely maxine
    Fefonz Quan feels we bring up a lot of theoretical questions (and answers?) here, but what do we experiece/experiment at?
    Darren Islar: :) Fonz
    Eliza Madrigal nods @ Fef...
    Eden Haiku: Joy, the sixth sense! (smiles at Maxine)
    Ewan Bonham: Fef, the nine sec practices help
    Maxine Walden: nice, Eden, yes.
    Ewan Bonham: I also use a gong for remembering
    Ewan Bonham: rings on the hour
    Eliza Madrigal: theoretical is sometimes sharing our questions openly... so direct experience as much as other explorations...
    Bruce Mowbray: good idea and practice, Ewan.
    Eden Haiku: After a while, it seems sometimes the 9 seconds knock at the door of perception, reminding me to remember to stop.

    What a lovely image!  Sometimes we remember, often we don't, but we can try to remember to remember, consistently, as a habit.  Remembering to remember to take a break is hard at first, almost impossible, but then it can become a kind of second nature, something you just do.

    Ewan Bonham: nods, Eden
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Fefonz Quan: I just thought that talking about what awareness is is to abstract for my little mind...
    Riddle Sideways: and after a while you don't need the gong anymore
    Fefonz Quan: too*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: they come to you...
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)) Me too Fef
    Eden Haiku: On blessed days they do :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Buddhists regard "Mind" as the 6th sense.
    --BELL--
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Darren Islar: true Fonz, you can only try over and over again
    Fefonz Quan: thought about that too Bruce. Try what Darren?
    Darren Islar: and 'try' to see what 'happens'
    Darren Islar: being aware
    Riddle Sideways: or just watch what happens
    Darren Islar: we are not used to that
    Darren Islar: it is not a feeling or something you can put your finger on
    Maxine Walden: stunned to have the pause come so quickly; wondering whether I lose track of 'time' when I can feel gratitude and joy; but I can feel quite stuck in 'time' when I feel the tug of doubt, memory, worry
    Fefonz Quan: somehow i didn't point at Fefonz's lack of awareness ;-)
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Maxine
    Eden Haiku: During the pause, I took my eyes away from the screen, stretched, looked outside, took it the wind, the birds, the sound of someone reading the newspaper. I did not realized I was tense, bent on the screen, reading, typing.

    A multi-dimensional observation!  We tend to talk about our presence in SL, or what has happened to us in RL, but we rarely connect to the two `live' while we are in conversation.  By first connecting SL and RL, and then connecting the usual RL awareness with an enhanced RL awareness of wind, birds, and newspapers, Eden invited us to broaden out in doubly unexpected ways.

    Ewan Bonham: Time can be perceived by my thought framework in the moment
    Maxine Walden: attitude, heartedness maybe so impacts the experience of 'time'
    Darren Islar: I just meant it is hard to talk about it as a concept
    Fefonz Quan nods deeply to Maxine
    Ewan Bonham: nods Max
    Eliza Madrigal: That's quite something to notice Maxine... how something can seem so absolutely one way, one moment, and so completely different, in 'another' supposed moment...
    Ewan Bonham: Yes 'frame' of mind
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (quietly says bye everyone :D I'll read the log)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Sharon :) ty
    Fefonz Quan: bye SSL
    Eden Haiku: Yes Eliza and Maxine, time shifts things, flip them isn't it?
    Maxine Walden: hmm, yes, impressive how different 'time' can seem
    Pema Pera: (quietly says bye to SS)
    Ewan Bonham: by Sophia

    A new thread about being stuck:

    Riddle Sideways: yes, Eliza and Maxine, why 'must' things be 'stuck' in time
    Hana Furlough: bye sophia : )
    Riddle Sideways: they must be allowed to flow or independent of time
    Fefonz Quan wonders, who or what is 'stuck' in time
    Eliza Madrigal: yes what's with that stickiness? :) ...
    Ewan Bonham: lol
    Maxine Walden: for me the stuckness relates to my being tied to my doubt, worry, memory...those kinds of thing...taking them seriously without realizing it
    Eden Haiku: We are stuck :)
    Fefonz Quan nods
    Darren Islar: (seeing a lot of stickers calling themselves 'I' :)))))))
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: right, Darren :)
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Max, it is like a magnet at times and so subtle
    Maxine Walden: :) Ewan
    Riddle Sideways: have been wondering about the levels each of us do/don't put into the stuckness of noun-verb and time cycles
    Darren Islar: strangely enough there are far more stickers then 'I''s
    Ewan Bonham: ㋡ Darren
    Fefonz Quan: could you rephrase Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: no
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Fefonz Quan: ok, lost you there :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Could one be "anxious" in the Present -- or is that always a "past" or "future" faer (or worry).
    Eliza Madrigal giggles @ Riddle
    Bruce Mowbray: fear.
    Eden Haiku: We are LOST or are we stuck? :)))
    Riddle Sideways: watch the levels around this circle
    Fefonz Quan: not sure about that Bruce
    Maxine Walden: the seeming rightousness of my doubts, demanding that I owe allegiance to them, for all the pain, grievance etc...hard to let those things go at times as if bypassing or betraying past pains
    Darren Islar: I think fear is always taking you out of the present
    Adams Dubrovna: Is being stuck related to our failure to appreciate the newness of the moment?
    Riddle Sideways: the different ppl and how they stick the nouns and verbs so together
    Ewan Bonham: max...interesting...what a 'loyalty'
    Eliza Madrigal: oh wow Maxine, yes... the righteousness of doubts
    Darren Islar: yes Maxine
    Eden Haiku: Pema is very very quiet...A tiger about to leap in our midst?

    Rather a tiger leisurely enjoying the scene :-) 

    Maxine Walden: :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Hana Furlough: right on maxine
    Bruce Mowbray: I agree with Darren: fear always takes us out of present (as, for me, with pain).
    Ewan Bonham: Lol...not wanting to abandon my painful thoughts
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Fefonz Quan: maybe there is also a way to include our fear in the present moment
    Ewan Bonham: or betray them...very curious
    Fefonz Quan: in a way, be present to fear, and not run from it neither
    Darren Islar: right Fonz
    Maxine Walden: agree, fef, that may defang fear, to be present to it
    Ewan Bonham: hmmm...be present to fear thoughts
    Fefonz Quan: so fear, joy, pain, are all presentations of time
    Ewan Bonham: Is that like facing the tiger?
    Darren Islar: and I guess fear is real when Pema was really a tiger :)) I just thought of the 'real' fear
    Maxine Walden: :) Fef
    Fefonz Quan: getting befriended with the tiger
    Pema Pera is just a smilng tiger now
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Eos .
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Fef... yes all time and tigers
    Pema Pera enjoying very much the exchange
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Eos :)
    Pema Pera: Hi Eos!
    Ewan Bonham: lol
    Pema Pera: It's so delightful to see so many of us having a good time here, talking about time and appearance and all that! In another hour or so I'll add the next chapter, together with a new exploration/exercise. Looking forward already to next week! Meanwhile, thanks for coming here, and feel free to stay longer, while we enter our regular PaB session in a few minutes.
    Hana Furlough: hello eos
    Eden Haiku: "Real darkness only sets in when we learn to pretend that it is the same old world appearing moment after moment' PaB Book chapter 0. TIme
    Eliza Madrigal: !! great timing Eden
    Eden Haiku: ;))
    Bleu Oleander: looking forward to it Pema!
    Ewan Bonham: Ty , Pema

    Bruce offered me a black T shirt with a pretty orange-and-black striped tiger on it, which I started wearing right away.

    Pema Pera: thanks for the tiger shirt, Bruce :)
    Eden Haiku: Yes, looking forward to it too Pema:)
    Darren Islar: thanks Pema
    Bruce Mowbray: YW!
    Maxine Walden: :) Pema
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you everyone... what interesting ideas and noticings this morning
    Riddle Sideways: and thank you all. It's about time
    Hana Furlough: great conversation, everyone!
    Hana Furlough: very inspiring
    Fefonz Quan: _/!\_
    Maxine Walden: yes, I think we potentiate each other in our thinking/sharing
    Ewan Bonham: yes, i have enjoyed you
    Fefonz Quan: thanks all
    Pema Pera: yes, great synergy
    Maxine Walden: yes
    --BELL--
    Eden Haiku: Beautiful meeting!

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