2010.07.18 08:00 - Guardian Session: How Many Ways

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    There were ten guardians present for this weekly session: Adams, Agatha, Bleu, Eliza, Eos, Maxine, Pema, Riddle, Sharon, and Yakuzza.

     We touched on a number of topics including Art as Being, Starting at the End, and Different Kinds of Sessions. Any actual structure was unintentional I assure you. One strange string is that we seemed to flash back to the 70s decade a few times...


    Agatha Macbeth: Hi LizYaku :)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow this dress reminds me of what I love about SL... would be nice to wear this in rl....
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Adams :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello Eliza and everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pema :)
    Adams Rubble: Hello Pema
    Pema Pera: Hi everybody!
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Adams and pem
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi SSL :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi everybody!!
    Adams Rubble: Hello Sharon, Maxine, Eos and Riddle
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Max, Eos
    Agatha Macbeth: And Riddle :)
    Maxine Walden: hi, Adams, Eos, Riddle, Sharon, Agatha
    Maxine Walden: oh, and Pema! hi
    Riddle Sideways: Hi EveryBody
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi all!!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Maxine, and Eos, and Riddle, and Bleu...
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Beings
    Pema Pera: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: (Beings waves)
    Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Bleu
    Adams Rubble: Hello Bleu
    Maxine Walden: a lovely surprise to see you, so late for you in Japan, Pema...ah you are traveling!
    Eos Amaterasu: hi misty bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: The Flying Dutchman...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Riddle Sideways: :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pema Pera: I'm in Copenhagen, close to Holland actually
    Pema Pera: it's 5 pm here
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The Great Dane...
    Eos Amaterasu: Is SL your only constant, Pema?
    Maxine Walden: ah,...
    Eliza Madrigal: hehe Eos
    Pema Pera: yes. Eos, pretty much!
    Bleu Oleander: home base :)
    Eos Amaterasu: you can be here no matter where you are
    Pema Pera: and, Bleu, are you getting used to your new song?
    Maxine Walden: ?
    Bleu Oleander: ha! yes
    Pema Pera: nel Bleu di pinto di Bleu :-)
    Pema Pera: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/07/2010.07.17_13:00_-_nel_Bleu_di_pinto_di_Blue
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Maxine Walden: ah :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Easy for you to say :p
    Eliza Madrigal listening to song...
    Pema Pera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-DVi0ugelc
    Maxine Walden: me too, Eliza, in my mind
    Pema Pera: but I found another one, with a PaB like fountain: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqpSymmTz4&feature=related
    Pema Pera: anyway . . . .
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Very nice to have you back at a guardian session Pema :) Great to see everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Agatha, for posting the recent logs
    Bleu Oleander: funny .... yes a PaB fountain!
    Agatha Macbeth smiles. NP
    Pema Pera: it's very nice to be back again -- I've missed these meetings while in Japan!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: glad to see you Pema :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Maxine Walden: these meetings do have a different 'missable' quality
    Riddle Sideways: ah, good to have us all in the same room watching YouTube vids
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Pema Pera: (reminds me of a song "how can I miss you if you won't go away :-)


    Eliza Madrigal: I can think of half a dozen topics... Art as Being, Donations, recent time sessions, theme session coming this week.... seems so much that I'm pressed to choose...
    Agatha Macbeth: let's do 'em all!
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Bleu Oleander: the theme session sounds interesting
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, looking forward to that...
    Eos Amaterasu: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Theme_Sessions
    Bleu Oleander: art as being .... next project announcement coming soon!

    Eos Amaterasu: 2010.07.22 13:00 Starting at the End: Genesis and Yakuzza

    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes all of them :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, great Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: for mid-august installation
    Bleu Oleander: "Being Puzzled"
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Eliza Madrigal: So we have a little time to puzzle it out
    Riddle Sideways: how many entrees can I submit?
    Eos Amaterasu scratches head
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu Oleander: nice question Riddle
    Maxine Walden: how many ways am I puzzled or riddled, Riddle?
    Bleu Oleander: hope all feel that way!
    Riddle Sideways: am puzzled hundreds of times each day
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Maxine Walden: sorry, did not mean to distract us with puns
    Eos Amaterasu: your name is your fate (Riddle)
    Eliza Madrigal: Not at all Maxine.. perhaps all of our topics are this morning's puzzle...
    Maxine Walden: :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes! indeed
    Pema Pera: fun pun puzzles sizzling with riddles
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Maxine Walden: :) tongue twisting riddles

    SophiaSharon Larnia: on the other hand, I have a sense of dropping the riddle too.
    Riddle Sideways: but enough about me.... back to ... (what was the topic)
    Eos Amaterasu: do not search for solutions; only cease to cherish riddles

    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Eos, that's what I meant hahaha
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eos Amaterasu thinks maybe he can just take a picture of Riddle for the exhibit....
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back, Agatha :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Agatha !
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, me too
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Well that was bloody strange
    Riddle Sideways: I am the enigma
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Eos Amaterasu: whassup, virtua grrl?
    Agatha Macbeth: Virtually crahed
    Agatha Macbeth: +s
    Eos Amaterasu: but not really?
    Agatha Macbeth: Weird
    Riddle Sideways: was just time for you to stand up
    Maxine Walden: riddled with puzzles at this meeting
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be cos it's Sunday

    Yakuzza's Friday Voice Session is a hit, and we talk about other ways to play with session forms...

    Eos Amaterasu: I was at Yak's voice (yak?) session for the first time this week
    Eos Amaterasu: pretty interesting
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Bleu Oleander: yes, very fun
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eos Amaterasu: I can see doing more such in various other contexts as well, especially in the village
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, have not made it yet
    Maxine Walden: how so? Unfortunately can't go to those timewise...say a bit more about those sessions?
    Bleu Oleander: they add another layer of presence for me
    Eos Amaterasu: The quality of interaction,even intimacy, is a bit different
    Eos Amaterasu: at first a bit disconcerting to hear RL voice
    Bleu Oleander: the voice holds new information
    Riddle Sideways: like what gender some are
    Bleu Oleander: beyond gender
    Riddle Sideways: RL
    Riddle Sideways: is there much trouble with ppl talking on top of each other?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: What's the pattern been, yak?
    Eliza Madrigal: It does seem that a different kind of manners is required
    Bleu Oleander: different signals
    Eos Amaterasu: such as , get up and bow before you speak? :-)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: unlike typing where you can blurt as you will lol
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles @ Eos
    Bleu Oleander: some blurting occurs
    Pema Pera: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: Yak, I see you typing but don't see any text
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes :)
    Pema Pera turning up the volume
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i actually don´t understand what you mean with pattern
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: In many ways it is the same... bumps and blurts occur but we learn one another's rhythms...
    Eos Amaterasu: Oh, just what you've observerd regarding interruptions while talking - has it been a problem?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, regular conversational manners would apply :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: It wasn´t a big issue so far, we were never more then 6 ppl during the voice sessions
    Eos Amaterasu recalls the dance called "the bump"

    ;-) Just don't make me do "the hustle"...

    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Yakuzza Lethecus: when eden is there and a discussion comes up i am delighted to listen as i read most of the time in the local chat around here :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: It´s just a discussion like in real life even when the latency of the voice sometimes creates an "overspeaking" problem between the avatars
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but not too bothering, only when ppl aren´t used to headsets and the audio features of secondlife there can be a problem
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i like the depth and the nonrecorded character of the discussions
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Pema Pera: it's a great idea to try out different ways of communicating!
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can just "say" what´s on my mind, maybe i am just more auditive
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i can´t delete what i just wrote and nobody will be able to copy past the chatlog when i did a fauxpais :)
    Bleu Oleander: not as many typos
    Eliza Madrigal: It is a little tricky because unlike in RL one can't give a real visual cue... so I imagine that with a larger group some kind of signal system might be useful
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, the possibility for less censoring before you speak... sort of
    Yakuzza Lethecus: of course ppl could record, but ppl are even logging all the chat at every time even tho it´s not published
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (speaking for myself only tho)
    Eos Amaterasu: more possibility of foot in mouth disease, but it's not contagious
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehhe yea i meant that too lol
    Riddle Sideways: yes it is contagious
    Pema Pera: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: it is playing with forms... like the dream sessions which have a more 'formal' structure. Each kind of session seems to draw out something different
    Maxine Walden: interesting thought, eliza, playing with forms

    Eliza Madrigal: We've had a few 'story telling' kind of sessions, spontaneously... and some of us were thinking we might play with that a bit more... perhaps in the pub :)
    Eliza Madrigal: If there is interest of course... just try it out
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm, why would story telling be in the pub :)
    Pema Pera: do you have a link to those sessions, Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: well... over a beer...
    Pema Pera: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: it's a riddle, riddle :-)
    Riddle Sideways: who reported me for last night
    Eliza Madrigal: of course they could be in regular sessions too...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, let me see if I can find one Pema

    Eos Amaterasu: I get some kind of feeling of being in Yak's valley in Germany when in the voice session....
    Pema Pera: oh, you can give those later, Eliza, don't want to distract you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds like so much fun

    Maxine Walden: yes, visiting (with) each other in more intimate ways

    Pema Pera: I'll be in Yak's value in a week . . . :-) speaking with him in voice and gestures, lucky me (^_^)
    Maxine Walden: a valuable valley?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've also wondered what it would be like to have have a completely free-association type of session, but hard for me to explain what I mean by that.
    Eos Amaterasu ponders Yak's value
    Eos Amaterasu: just say anything that comes to mind, SS :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Pema Pera: (actually exactly one week from now -- after this session -- with Lia and Bertram and Yak)
    Riddle Sideways: like my sessions
    SophiaSharon Larnia: following a thread, or not, see where the thread goes

    Eliza Madrigal: Voila! 2010.01.17 13:00 - An unfinished story...

    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles widely
    Agatha Macbeth: Ask Ariadne
    Maxine Walden: In a way we are doing that here, SS, instead of the several admin issues mentioned earlier
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Eos Amaterasu: Pema, you'll be in RL with Lia & Bertram and Yak?
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: yes, Eos
    Pema Pera: we'll all meet in Cologne
    Agatha Macbeth: Should smell nice anyway
    Pema Pera: (Koeln)
    Pema Pera: anyone here is welcome to fly over :-)
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Pema Pera: we may stick to beer rather than water though

    Adams Rubble: Anyone else can meet at the Cathedral in the Museum
    Pema Pera: (to Agatha)
    Agatha Macbeth: ??
    Maxine Walden: nice thought, Adams

    Yakuzza Lethecus i have to drive there, no beer for me :(
    Pema Pera: (thanks for the link, ELiza!)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :P
    Pema Pera: eau de Cologne
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't fall asleep at the wheel Yaku ;-)

    Maxine Walden: meanderings in our conversation today, this way and that...not set pattern it seems
    Agatha Macbeth: Sundays are like that
    Eos Amaterasu: different ways of sessioning
    Eliza Madrigal: unpatterning
    Maxine Walden: yes, nice
    Eos Amaterasu: playing as PaBeing
    Pema Pera: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what fun for you guys!!!

    Adams Rubble: I have to go but want to say how inspiring it has been this week to see all the excitement about existence and appearance
    Adams Rubble: bye everyone :)
    Maxine Walden: nice to see you Adams,
    Riddle Sideways: bye adams
    Bleu Oleander: bye Adams
    Eos Amaterasu: bye Adams
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Adams! Bye for now
    Pema Pera: (^_^)
    Pema Pera: bye Adams!
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Adams :)

    Eos Amaterasu wonders, but there's nothing else to get excited about
    Maxine Walden: do you mean that existence and appearance covers just about everything, Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: apparently :-)
    Maxine Walden: :))
    Pema Pera: :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Adams :)
    Riddle Sideways: do you mean you have no excitment of the "other" stuff?

    Eos Amaterasu: Adams was referring to the time session?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Maxine Walden: that was my assumption as well, Eos
    Pema Pera: specifically the chapter that I wrote on Awareness: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time/1._Awareness
    Riddle Sideways: oh, I was off topic again...
    Pema Pera: in which existence and appearance are contrasted
    Pema Pera: riddles, riddles . . .
    Maxine Walden: :)
    Bleu Oleander: puzzles, puzzles ....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah have to go too, bye everyone!!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun!!
    Pema Pera: bye Sharon!
    Maxine Walden: bye
    Riddle Sideways: bye SS
    Bleu Oleander: bye Sharon
    Agatha Macbeth: C ya Shaz
    Eliza Madrigal: (bye Sharon)
    Bleu Oleander: need to go too .... have fun everyone :)
    Maxine Walden: bye bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Bleu, thanks... look forward to the next phase of Art as Being :)
    Bleu Oleander: take care ... bye
    Riddle Sideways: bye Bleu

    I don't know why you say goodbye I say hello.... Hello Hello...

    Eliza Madrigal: The hour is upon us...
    Agatha Macbeth: I have to go and move some furniture in Rl, Cyaz
    Maxine Walden: bye Agatha
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Agatha :)
    Riddle Sideways: Bye Agatha
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you everyone
    Riddle Sideways: hmmm, not as much fun saying bye byes as hellos
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Maxine Walden: seems these discussions play an important role in their free-flowingness
    Maxine Walden: for our group
    Eliza Madrigal: hello goodbye hello.... aloha, shalom...
    Maxine Walden: about time to go
    Eos Amaterasu: bye all, Max, Eliza, Riddle, Pema, Yakuzza
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Eos!
    Riddle Sideways: bye Eos
    Maxine Walden: bye Eos
    Eliza Madrigal: And Bye Maxine, Ya, Pema, and Riddle...
    Pema Pera: bye everyone leaving!
    Maxine Walden: bye Eliza
    Riddle Sideways: Eliza, now Beatle song is stuck on me
    Riddle Sideways: bye Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: Have a lovely day :) Ah, and my pleasure Riddle :))
    Maxine Walden: yes, for me too

    Pema Pera: for me "hello emptiness" @ riddle :-)

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