2010.07.31 07:00 - appearance, being and retirement ...

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bertram Jacobus. The comments are by Bertram Jacobus.

    Bertram Jacobus: hehe - we are first. sry adoro - i used a lm ... ;-)
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Bertram Jacobus: it´s nice that we here can also teleport, fly ... walk as well ! ... :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: run, drive ... *smile*
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Bertram Jacobus: so - what are your interests in sl ? if i may ask ...
    adoro Rhapsody: TAO
    Bertram Jacobus: ah great
    adoro Rhapsody: and meeting other people
    Bertram Jacobus: same here (!) :-)
    adoro Rhapsody: i thought so
    adoro Rhapsody: seeing u in the other places for meditation
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ... i like also when people know each other, when they can "see" each other ...
    Bertram Jacobus: hey arch !
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Archmage Atlantis: Hiya Bertram.
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    adoro Rhapsody: hi arch
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello adoro
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes !? - in the buddha center you mean adoro ?
    adoro Rhapsody: yes
    adoro Rhapsody: and the places around pab
    Bertram Jacobus: okay ... you know also the hikari area ? there they practise zen ...
    adoro Rhapsody: not yet
    Bertram Jacobus: i like theire sessions also very much, but can´t take part always or not so much - so much to do in this universe, so many offers (!) ... in these times ...
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Bertram Jacobus: hello bruce ...
    adoro Rhapsody: hi bruce
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, adoro, Bert, and Arch.
    Bertram Jacobus: hello dream ... :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Dream.
    Dream Wrexan: hi, everyone
    Archmage Atlantis: Hello Dream
    Bertram Jacobus: may i ask you dream : were you already here before or is it your first time ? :-)
    Dream Wrexan: I've been here before, Bertram - know about recording and bells :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty :-))
    Dream Wrexan: yw
    Bertram Jacobus: and hey sharon ! :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Bert hi everyone ^^
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Sharon.
    Dream Wrexan: hi, sharon
    Bertram Jacobus: (it´s such a nice place, also to meet people - love it !) ... :-)
    Dream Wrexan: I'm beginning to feel quite comfortable here
    Bertram Jacobus: hello ewan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (I'm having problems with my internet connection today, so I may disappear, it is no reflection of the conversation!!)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Ewan.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan
    Dream Wrexan: If I had a lifeline, I'd throw it to you, Sharon
    Bertram Jacobus: wonderful - happy to "hear" (read) that dream ! ... :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe thank you!!
    Dream Wrexan: hi, Ewan
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, that seems to be a problem today, Sharon. adoro just disappeared. . . then came back on-line.
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Folks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww
    Bruce Mowbray: Here he is again. Welcome back, adoro.
    Ewan Bonham: wb adoro
    adoro Rhapsody: hi
    Bertram Jacobus: wb adoro *wave* ;-)
    Dream Wrexan: wb :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have even seemed to have lost my shoes, oh well :D
    adoro Rhapsody: i went out to hikari
    Archmage Atlantis: Shoes are overrated
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi adoro
    Archmage Atlantis: *g*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Bertram Jacobus: women especially seem to love shoes so much - why may that be ? :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: an alluring adornment :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe ... :-)
    Dream Wrexan: easy, Bertram - you don't have to worry about how many bulges you have in your feet
    Dream Wrexan: when shopping
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe - ty girls for helping me understand ! :-)
    Dream Wrexan: I think body image is something women may worry about more than men, for some reason
    Dream Wrexan: or perhaps it's just that talking about it is more acceptable for women
    Bertram Jacobus: sure. that comes from the gender roles i guess ...
    Dream Wrexan: ... and that clearly came from my feminine side :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: but also for sure : all that changes also always ...
    Bertram Jacobus: may be slow, but it changes
    Bertram Jacobus: may be only at the surface first, but nevertheless ... ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: oops
    Bruce Mowbray: male vanity (or would that be self-respect) is just as real - although we often use other things besides clothing to exercise it.
    Dream Wrexan: what would be an example of that, Bruce? (the other things)
    Dream Wrexan: (or anyone)
    Bruce Mowbray: athletic prowess. . .
    Archmage Atlantis: Vanity = Attractiveness to the other = breeding rights
    Dream Wrexan nods
    Bruce Mowbray: power trips.
    Bruce Mowbray: "being RIGHT" and being IN CONTROL. . .
    Archmage Atlantis: Anyway, that's another meeting, never mind
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: ok.
    Dream Wrexan: good examples, thank you
    Bruce Mowbray: It was fascinating (to me) to note how long it took me to find a body shape, skin, hair style, and clothing that I felt comfortable with.
    Bruce Mowbray: a few months, actually.
    Dream Wrexan: It took me that long to figure out *how* to change my avatar's appearance. :-)
    Dream Wrexan: The avatar is a work in progress, much like a web page
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Aph!
    Bertram Jacobus: hi aphrodite ... :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Morning all!
    Dream Wrexan waves across the circle to Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain waves back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Sophia
    Bruce Mowbray: @ Dream: the newest viewer apparently has no way of changing one's appearance. . . so I returned to version 2.0
    Dream Wrexan: @Bruce - you can, it's just different
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh. Well, I liked the camera tools better with V2.0 -- so I've returned to that one.
    Bruce Mowbray: This thing about avi's being "a work in progress":
    Dream Wrexan: It's funny how difficult change is.
    Dream Wrexan: of any kind
    Bruce Mowbray: that seems to be true in many ways - not just with their appearance.
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, Dream. totally agree.
    Archmage Atlantis: *Slips away*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, my rl avatar is a work in progress every minute it seems :)
    Bertram Jacobus: bye arch
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Arch :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but the term work implies that it's something it's not :D
    Dream Wrexan: interesting - I think in rl I change much less frequently than in SL - perhaps due to difficulty of changing in RL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes haha
    Bruce Mowbray: It's curious (again, to me) how much of my RL self I have projected onto my avi - and how much I have NOT (reserving for him a freedom I don't allow myself in RL).
    Dream Wrexan: for instance, my hair style hasn't changed in 30 years
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: mine either, kind of
    Ewan Bonham: mine either..lol
    Dream Wrexan: well, not much I can do about the gray that is creeping in :-)
    Dream Wrexan: lol, Ewan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D I actually kind of like my gray hairs, odd
    Dream Wrexan: I don't mind it, either
    Dream Wrexan: I earned every single gray hair
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Dream Wrexan: and every eye crinkle, too
    Dream Wrexan: my badge of courage
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm not the same person I even was 5 years ago
    Bruce Mowbray muses, "And I have earned my freedom!"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Dream Wrexan: Appearance seems to follow inner person
    Bertram Jacobus: (changing sittig position to make it more symmetric) ... ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Dream Wrexan smiles at ertram
    Ewan Bonham: Maybe is the topic here, who we are ...both rl and sl in spite of my physical form?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: many of my friends are into botox, lipo and atkins diets
    Bertram Jacobus winks @ bruce :o)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and I really dont think i understand it
    Bertram Jacobus winks @ bruce ... ;o)
    Bertram Jacobus: bah - chatlag ! :o)
    Bertram Jacobus: i think, that is one of the very essential pab "questions" ewan ...
    Dream Wrexan: I find I change my appearance (primarily clothes) in SL to suit the venue
    Ewan Bonham: At this point in life, i like to think that Ewan represents me.
    Dream Wrexan: perhaps venue relates more to inner self - where we "hang out"
    Bruce Mowbray: agrees with Bert and Ewan.
    Ewan Bonham: That is.. qualities well beyond the physical
    Ewan Bonham: In rl, I practice seeing beyond the physical in any relationship
    Bertram Jacobus: to me ... i consider that the most inner essence may also even transcend those qualities ewan ... and nothing what could be expressed, may it be in the end ...
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Bertt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I saw a baby last week witht ht emost awake, alert eyes I ever saw, in anyone
    Bertram Jacobus: :o)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it was startling, you dont see that in older people
    Bruce Mowbray: wonderful, Sharon!
    Ewan Bonham: i do see that in babies often
    Bruce Mowbray: sheer awareness?
    Ewan Bonham: Could that be ...we have that child somewher within us as well?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes... this felt different to me for some reason, maybe because of the way i was seeing
    Bertram Jacobus: but may be you can see that also in eyes for example of the dalai lama ? ... ;-)
    Dream Wrexan: I see it as the curiosity we have to understand their experience
    Dream Wrexan: to try to remember what it was like
    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps it's about being completely present in the moment
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Dream Wrexan: when everything is new
    Dream Wrexan: nothing is yet learned
    Aphrodite Macbain: sharp, aware, attentive
    Dream Wrexan: yes, pure experience
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ aphro
    Bruce Mowbray: It is visible, also, in the eyes of artists -- and anyone with real passion.
    Aphrodite Macbain: people who live in the moment
    Dream Wrexan: a freedom from fear of judgement
    Aphrodite Macbain: fully
    Bruce Mowbray: GOOD POINT, Dream!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Dream Wrexan: life without fear could be good ... or not so good
    Bruce Mowbray: I've noticed that persons who fear judgments most are sometimes the most judgmental -- if only of themselves.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Aphrodite Macbain: Fearing judgements could also be wanting to be liked
    Dream Wrexan: ... and wanting to be liked could be fear of not being good enough
    Aphrodite Macbain: wanting to be acceopted in the world
    Bruce Mowbray: I want to be liked.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, i am the very thing I see in others
    Dream Wrexan: Ewan, excellent point
    Ewan Bonham: they are my reflection
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Dream
    Aphrodite Macbain: If we want to be liked we will also fear judgements, no?
    Dream Wrexan: we might not be able to perceive another's experience - we tend to project our own
    Bruce Mowbray: With even the most excellent gun, one can shoot himself in the foot.
    Dream Wrexan: interesting analogy, Bruce :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: To be shaken out of our view of ourselves can be a terrible thing
    Dream Wrexan: oh yes, Aph!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: terrifying, yes... but so necessary... all along the way.
    Dream Wrexan: I'm thinking of times when we think we're doing so much for another, only to find out they didn't think it was so great
    Bruce Mowbray: indeed - excellent point, Dream.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: reminds me of what I thought of myself the other day.. I just want to hep, even if I'm just helping to make a mess
    Aphrodite Macbain: It takes courage to look these realities in the face
    SophiaSharon Larnia: help*
    Aphrodite Macbain: On my gravestone will be the staement "she meant well"!
    Aphrodite Macbain: statement
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Dream Wrexan: lol, Aph
    Bruce Mowbray: Once my "guru" told me: "YOU'RE DOING EVERYONE'S WORK FOR THEM! STOP THAT!"
    Aphrodite Macbain: wise guru
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: In our minds, we are simply "being responsible"
    Ewan Bonham: Everyone's...Bruce you were a busy guy!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: but in other minds we are being a nuisance. How to tell the difference?
    Bruce Mowbray: "busy" as in scared into frenetic activity -- no allowing others to move at their own pace in their own directions.
    Dream Wrexan: I think the key is to not assume
    Aphrodite Macbain: of being in control?
    Dream Wrexan: In my work, I have consciously learned to ask
    Aphrodite Macbain: Perhaps it means that we self actualize through influencing others.
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Dream...asking can break the cycle
    Aphrodite Macbain: Constantly asking, assuming we know nothing
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Aph -- as Ram Dass said: The only work we ever do is on ourselves.
    Dream Wrexan: Aph, I think somehow along the line we learned that service is important
    Dream Wrexan: Sometimes it just gets muddied in our own minds
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes Dream, serving others
    Aphrodite Macbain: but it can become obsessive - like an overly controlling parent
    Dream Wrexan: maybe the golden rule is the problem
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hahah
    Dream Wrexan: we *assume* that others want what we would want
    Bruce Mowbray: serving others can be a wonderful way of working on ourselves -- if we remember that's what we're doing.
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice point Bruce
    Bertram Jacobus: the buddha recomments "the middle path" ...
    Dream Wrexan: Bruce, you mentioned Ram Dass... *excellent book* - "How Can I Help?"
    Bruce Mowbray: awareness, again.
    Dream Wrexan: Required reading in the seminary I attended
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, that was a wonderful book, Dream. . . and it focused a lot on "serving" by simply being present.
    Dream Wrexan: precisely, Bruce
    Dream Wrexan: Active listening is my most important skill at times
    Aphrodite Macbain: by being a witness?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I think I'll look that up :)
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, dream
    Dream Wrexan: Another good one on the same topic is "Path with Heart"
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Dream Wrexan: (Jack Kornfield)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Dream Wrexan: when you think about it - service is a large part of our lives
    Bertram Jacobus: i experience it these days : have difficult situation, will quit my job i guess. not easy . and have many friends who help me with it luckily ...
    Dream Wrexan: regardless of what line of work we are in
    Ewan Bonham: Because it is not necessarily tied to money, dream?
    Dream Wrexan: exactly, ewan
    Dream Wrexan: it's a way of life for some of us
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww Bert I hope things work out soon :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: looking inwards while serving outwards,
    Dream Wrexan: Bert, ending employment is a challenging time
    Bertram Jacobus: i hope so, too, for sure. ty sharon - but i found my trust into the universe again luckily ...
    Dream Wrexan: It can be a leap of faith
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: it gives you a chance to re-think your goals
    Aphrodite Macbain: to re-invent yourself
    Dream Wrexan: I never regret my own change of career
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, or to seek guidance in them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i took a leap of faith myself, and still have no ground, not frightened yet though :))
    Bertram Jacobus: my goal is and was the same since i´m around 14 ... ;-) (the unexpressable) ...
    Dream Wrexan: It helps to remember the motivation behind the desire to change
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: what might motivate us to change?
    Bertram Jacobus: suffering
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes? and perhaps new visions?
    Dream Wrexan: When *I* changed, the job no longer fit
    Dream Wrexan: It was like an outfit that was too tight to wear
    Ewan Bonham: Perhaps seeing ourselves as we experience others
    SophiaSharon Larnia: for me it was suffering yes, unhappiness, and knowing there was something there that would be more satisfying to myself, and hopefully for others
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes! good metaphor
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sounds selfish in one way
    Dream Wrexan: not at all, Sophia
    Dream Wrexan: when it doesn't fit (for whatever reason) it doesn't fit
    Dream Wrexan: who said re-inventing ourselves? I liked that.
    Dream Wrexan: However, I think we re-invent first, then change.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to do more good for others, to be better to myself
    Bruce Mowbray: "One size does not fit all" -- also true for oneself as she moves down her path.
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, it begins in our minds and hearts first?
    Dream Wrexan: thought creates form
    Aphrodite Macbain: the challenge is ttake it off and put on something more comfortable. that point between taking off one garment and putting on the other is the scary biet!
    Aphrodite Macbain: bit
    Dream Wrexan: you bet, Aph - that leap of faith
    Ewan Bonham: Dream , what do you mean...thought creates form?
    Aphrodite Macbain: and being OK with being naked!
    Dream Wrexan: One of my favorite sayings: "God" never closes one door without opening another - but the hallway is a b*tch
    Bruce Mowbray: agrees, a leap -- and a necessary one (as emerging from the cocoon is necessary for a butterfly).
    Aphrodite Macbain: hahah
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hang some beautiful pictures in your hallway.
    Aphrodite Macbain: my cat keeps walking across my keyboard
    Dream Wrexan: lol, Bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe Aphrodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: enjoy the hallway - uncertainty, limbo,
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol Dream :D
    Dream Wrexan: comfort in uncertainty - spiritual practice certainly helps there
    Aphrodite Macbain: In the hallway there are many doors
    Aphrodite Macbain: No need to rush through one
    Aphrodite Macbain: pwerhaps pure being is in that halway
    Bruce Mowbray: Good to have options -- and we always have options.
    Ewan Bonham: Good to see options
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: between one breath and the next
    Bruce Mowbray: wonderful image, Aph.
    Aphrodite Macbain: See that you'v changed your outfit to match the convrsation!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: just Being Here Now. . . as they say.
    Dream Wrexan: ... another good book, Bruce :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm becoming very fond of the hallway metaphor
    Aphrodite Macbain: a place of transition
    Bertram Jacobus: ok ... i´ll take a time off ... ty all for the talk - have a very good time plz and may all beings be happy !
    Aphrodite Macbain: a threshhold
    Dream Wrexan: bye, Bert
    Bruce Mowbray: keep your passion, Bert.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've envisioned a path with multiple branches, a hallway is less scary :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye Bert, nice to meet you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bert!
    Dream Wrexan: at least it's somewhat enclosed, Sharon
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll try to do my very best ... hm ... ty again :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, the closed door though can be scary
    Bruce Mowbray: a less-traveled hallway.
    Aphrodite Macbain: ha!
    Dream Wrexan: we do seem to have a trend here, with books, Bruce
    Dream Wrexan: lol
    Dream Wrexan: I had an opportunity to listen to Ram Dass shortly after his stroke in Ann Arbor, MI
    Dream Wrexan: what an amazing presence
    Aphrodite Macbain: I keep finding my way back into that hallway. When I retired, it was a place I spent many days
    Dream Wrexan: he invited us to enjoy the silence between his words
    Dream Wrexan: and not become anxious for him
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: being comfortable in silence
    Dream Wrexan: I have retirement before me, Aph - and not too far off
    Aphrodite Macbain: an opportunity to renew
    Dream Wrexan: another re-invention :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: The hardest thing for me was NOT being busy!!
    Bruce Mowbray: When you are retired, Dream, you will wonder how you ever had time [before] to work!
    Dream Wrexan: one of my favorite passtimes - thinking about what I'll do with more time on my hands
    Ewan Bonham: LOL
    Dream Wrexan: Bruce, I see that in my in-laws
    Ewan Bonham: yes, i don't think i will have a problem in retiring
    Dream Wrexan: They are *always* busy!
    Aphrodite Macbain: But then I slowly became busy again but with greater intention
    Ewan Bonham: There are way too many things i really want to do
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: make a list
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes. . . It took me a few months to adjust to all the free time and all of the options -- but then I got into the swing of it -- and now I'd not have it any other way!
    Dream Wrexan: I've had periods of non-work throughout my life - each one got easier
    Aphrodite Macbain: I've just taken on a contract and am beginning to resent having to work so hard again!!
    Bruce Mowbray: indeed so, Dream.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have, for instancce, less time to play in SL
    Dream Wrexan: My 2nd job is at a lull right now as the school is on summer break
    Bruce Mowbray: well, Aph, remember there are many hallways, still.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I've been between jobs since May and am going a little bonkers
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :why? because of lack of money or lack of things to do?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this was a pleasant surprise to me
    Dream Wrexan: My husband was in private practice once - always worried about whether the stream of new clients would dry up
    Dream Wrexan: they never did - but he still worried
    SophiaSharon Larnia: just the free time, I can fill the time, but seems purposeless at times
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, that's the problem with me
    Dream Wrexan: Sharon, I can relate to that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like I'm not doing what I am here to do
    Bruce Mowbray: I feel that "Purpose" is WAYYYYYY over-rated.
    Dream Wrexan: I sometimes question my involvement in SL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: true Bruce :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we all feel like we have to be USEFUl all the time
    Dream Wrexan: yes!
    Bruce Mowbray: That was the BIGGEST hallway for me to get through: being "purposeful"
    Dream Wrexan: there are tons of non-essential activities that fill our lives
    Aphrodite Macbain: I no longer know what that means
    Aphrodite Macbain: -to be useful
    Dream Wrexan: I'm definitely going to ponder that one
    Bruce Mowbray: "to be oriented so much toward a goal that you miss the present"?
    Aphrodite Macbain: They say that the happiest people who are so engaged with what they are doing that they loose track of time, and they feel that what they are doing has value and relevance
    Bruce Mowbray: I say, enjoy the hallway where you are.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, this 'engagement' is what I miss the most
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are a kindred spirit Sophia
    SophiaSharon Larnia: even at the busiest, most irritating time at work, i was locked in to what i was doing
    SophiaSharon Larnia: in its immediacy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sorry i keep talking over the bell today
    Bruce Mowbray: "And a time for every purpose under Heaven." -- Ecclesiastes.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and feel a bit like an untied boat
    Aphrodite Macbain: Love Ecclesiates
    Bruce Mowbray: Tis time for me to engage myself and Bear Dog in a 'hallway' called Morning Hike.
    Ewan Bonham: Sophia,
    Dream Wrexan: enjoy, Bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun Bruce! :))
    Ewan Bonham: I was once in an untied boat and drifting..
    Bruce Mowbray: May all be happily engaged, this day!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Ewan Bonham: It was quite scarry
    Aphrodite Macbain: great talking with you bruce please give bear a pat for me
    Dream Wrexan: I think I'll go practice my SL building skills :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay have fun! :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you all!
    Ewan Bonham: But at just the right moment, a person came to help tow me in
    Aphrodite Macbain: what happened to you Ewan?
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh. interesting.
    Ewan Bonham: Well, i was towed in..
    Aphrodite Macbain: it's interesting how things happen just at the right momement
    Ewan Bonham: I am not saying things come always...
    Aphrodite Macbain: moment
    Ewan Bonham: But it happens most frequently
    Dream Wrexan: talk about (that person) being useful!
    Aphrodite Macbain: but you have to be open to them
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Apro
    Aphrodite Macbain: and willing to accept help
    Dream Wrexan: perhaps your thought created your savior, ewan
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes thats hard, ill jump to help but hesitent to accept it
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Dream
    Dream Wrexan: nice talking with you all :-)
    Dream Wrexan: always a pleasure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I have to go :) nice talking with you and hope to see you later!
    Ewan Bonham: Nice seeing you all again..:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: well, I must get up and go to the farmer's market then keep working on that contractg
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh i love farmers markets lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thank you everyone!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aphrodite :)


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