2010.08.19 01:00 - Chimneys and SL Death Notification

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Zen Arado. The comments are by Zen Arado. Present were Bertram Jacobus, Qt Core and myself.

    Smoking hats and chimneys :)

    Zen Arado: Hi Qt:)
    Qt Core: Hi Zen
    Zen Arado: Hi Bert :)
    Qt Core: And hi Bert
    Zen Arado: you'r smoking?
    Qt Core: not me, my hat is
    Zen Arado: I've never seen a smoking hat
    Qt Core: me neither ;-)
    Zen Arado: it's as if you were a steam train
    Qt Core: i think tyhe stylist idea was something like that
    Zen Arado: the rest of the costume seems medieval?
    Qt Core: more late 1700 early 1800
    Bertram Jacobus: sry - there was just a ring at my bell - the chimney sweeper ! ;-) ...
    Zen Arado: np Bert
    Qt Core: maybe the reds and brown send out a medieval message
    Bertram Jacobus: and whaow - a steampunk freak !? ;-)
    Zen Arado: Qt will need his hat swept soon:)
    Bertram Jacobus: yess ! :-)
    Qt Core: chimney sweepers, a rare ability nowadays
    Bertram Jacobus: zen, i had the impression, yoe were not here for a while - is that correct and if so : why was that ? (and i am very happy to see you again here with us !) ... :-)
    Zen Arado: true - not many people use coal fires any more
    Zen Arado: Ah - I was in hospital
    Zen Arado: but am ok again
    Qt Core: good to hear that
    Zen Arado: it was gallbladder problem
    Zen Arado: very painful
    Bertram Jacobus: not in germany : here we have very strict laws about the control of all house heatings and so we have also in every region those people and profession - they earn a lot of money, because their regions are even protected : when you once get some, nobody else is allowed to make there their job
    Zen Arado: phone brb
    Qt Core: here two, a technician have to officially check each implants at least every two years leaving a certificate, the municipality runs random tests
    Qt Core: two=too
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe. tests. italy (!) - here it simply has to be and that´s all. i guess. or may be different : the sweepers are the controlers at the same time (!) ;-)
    Qt Core: the first time we had to had to enlarge the air passages, one of the few things not a joke on controls
    Bertram Jacobus: and because they get money for every house, their control will be very complete ;-)
    Qt Core: basically the same here
    Qt Core: but still every years we have some people dieing of CO2 poisoning
    Bertram Jacobus: and when then there may be a tax inspection - may be then the authoroties see also whether the work is done correctly - don´t know ...
    Zen Arado: sorry back
    Qt Core: wb Zen
    Bertram Jacobus: hm. may be when the windows are very airtight and not opened (?) ...
    Bertram Jacobus: wb zen - awww - but is it completely ok again ? (i hope , for sure) ! ...
    Zen Arado: they have 'smokeless' zones here where you aren't allowed to have coal fires
    Qt Core: yes, but our laws require an opening itoward the outside where the boiler is
    Zen Arado: or maybe just open cola fires
    Zen Arado: open coal fires*
    Zen Arado: because they make so much smoke
    Zen Arado: I told a lot of people in pab when I was in hospital Bert
    Zen Arado: I used my Iphone a lot from there
    Zen Arado: was very useful
    Bertram Jacobus: i see ! very modern ! i have no experience with those telephones ! ... ;-)

    PAB and death notification and Facebook security:

    Zen Arado: I wonder if they will have a pab funeral when one of us dies :)
    Bertram Jacobus: but for that we would need a contact adress
    Bertram Jacobus: how could we arrange that ? may be with or for the people who like to give it ?
    Zen Arado: I have some email addresses of people in pab
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - but when they try to write you and you are dead ;-)
    Zen Arado: people who have posted things
    Zen Arado: yes - it would be a problem
    Zen Arado: I don't know many pab people in RL
    Bertram Jacobus: they won´t know, only guess and even that will need a while ...
    Zen Arado: I have one Facebook friend from pab
    Qt Core: once on Shashdot i read a discussion and some solution on what to do for making the Net know you are dead
    Zen Arado: if I died it would be on Facebook I'm sure
    Bertram Jacobus: ah ! but you know somebody ? my idea is : the contacts here are to some of us not without a meaning, but this point has no solution yet, mostly - i, for example colud write the telephone number of a friend of mine in the pab members ection ...
    Zen Arado: if you died suddenly Fay would tell us Bert?
    Bertram Jacobus: but for that ... i´m not very knowing about facebook too - is it not necessairy that one knows a contact person of you to get such a message ? who would do it, then ? wouldn´t it be necessairy for somebody then to have access to your account to post such ?
    Zen Arado: what did they say on Shashdot Qt?
    Zen Arado: some of my relatives are on Facebook
    Zen Arado: my neice and her children
    Qt Core: they mostly were speaking abou, for examples all the passwords you only knows if you were to me a system administrator
    Bertram Jacobus: nice idea zen - but even she has not yet such a contact adress from anybody of my first life (!) - but this is only accidental, was and is not willingly ...
    Qt Core: to me = to be
    Bertram Jacobus: which were those solutions qt ?
    Qt Core: leaving them to a lawyer and such
    Zen Arado: the problem is we keep SL and RL separate then
    Qt Core: ket see if i can find the discussion, just a sec
    Bertram Jacobus: and zen - your friends on facebook can see your friends, too ? neice and children ? ...
    Bertram Jacobus: "then" ? when, then ? ;-)
    Zen Arado: hmmm...just thinking...no they can't
    Bertram Jacobus: so that problem is not yet solved, right zen ?
    Zen Arado: unless they are mutual friends
    Zen Arado: you are right bert
    Bertram Jacobus: so one solution could be, taht you give a person you trust your account infos so that he can write it, then ...
    Zen Arado: I have one friend in RL who is on SL though
    Bertram Jacobus: would you mind to let us know who that is ?
    Bertram Jacobus: (you "may" answer . yes) (!) ;o)
    Qt Core: i have a little notebook (the paper kind) with all my passwords so some of my relatives my find it... but none know really well how to use a computer and there are not the urls on that
    Bertram Jacobus: what about this topic in general : don´t you find it important ?
    Zen Arado: dangerous to give others your passwords
    Zen Arado: I wouldn't want to do that
    Qt Core: about facebook: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/10...ts-of-the-Dead
    Zen Arado: ah - so there is a way to do it on Facebook
    Qt Core: brb
    Zen Arado: yes it is important Bert
    Zen Arado: and some of us are getting old :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i would find a friend i´m sure to whom i could give my passwords ... he could write them down for example without my name and so nobody else would know where to use them ...
    Bertram Jacobus: that´s it zen ! ;-)
    Zen Arado: I have mine in a little book they would find if I died
    Zen Arado: I don't care what they do then
    Zen Arado: you can stil have a Facebok account if you are dead !
    Bertram Jacobus: my passwords i only have encrypted here ...
    Zen Arado: that is wise Bert
    Zen Arado: if someone stole my computer and passwords I would have a lot of trouble
    Qt Core: myne almost are encrypted too... with my bad writing skill ;-)
    Zen Arado: :)
    Zen Arado: I wanted to share photos of my time in Australia in early 60's with friends but they were very reluctant to use Facebook
    Zen Arado: I can give you the link but I don't want to post it here
    Bertram Jacobus: why was that ? reluctant ?
    Qt Core: you can use something simpler, like picasa or flikr, they only do photo sharing
    Zen Arado: they hear bad stories about Facebook
    Zen Arado: privacy issues
    Zen Arado: identity theft
    Zen Arado: yes true Qt but I use Flickr for sharing photos of paintings
    Zen Arado: I could picasa I guess
    Qt Core: but even not going all the way to identity theft, there are "simpler" risk of geting info around that you don't like to share
    Zen Arado: not sure about Facebook myself sometimes
    Qt Core: or make a second Flickr account
    Zen Arado: good idea Qt - never thought of that
    Bertram Jacobus: i have no problems with all the "information" about myself - everybode may know everything. i find that theater only bizarre
    Zen Arado: but Facebook is so good for sharing other things
    Qt Core: sadly now i have to go
    Zen Arado: ok bye Qt
    Zen Arado: nice to see you again
    Bertram Jacobus: but i never would give information about others who wouldn´t have the same or similar view, and explicite allowed it
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - bye qt - cu soon again :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: explicitely ...
    Bertram Jacobus: and i should go too - some appointments ...
    Zen Arado: ok Bert
    Zen Arado: nice to see you again too
    Bertram Jacobus: as said - nice to have you with us again zen - appreciate that really much ! :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: so have a nice day and cu *wave* :-)
    Zen Arado: bye - you too :)

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