2010.08.22 07:00 - It's a School, Isn't it?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray who filled in for an absent Adams who then posted the log and Bruce's pictures mostly without comment. Thanks Bruce!

    Something is Fishy in Bieup

    Eos Amaterasu: 'morning, Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Eos.
    Bruce Mowbray: How's life in Halifax today?
    Eos Amaterasu: Nice crisp clear day....
    Eos Amaterasu: How's Ohio?
    Bruce Mowbray: Great.
    Bruce Mowbray: A cold front came through yesterday - so we've cooled down a lot -- Much more comfortable.
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you know anything about these four blue fish swimming to my right?
    Eos Amaterasu: Hmm....doesn't seem to be an avatar
    Bruce Mowbray: Nope. They've been here for two days and no one seems to know how they got here.
    Eos Amaterasu: They belong to Mick (free to copy)
    Bruce Mowbray: Mickorod -- OK. He was here a couple of days ago. He probably left them, then.
    Eos Amaterasu: would they be happier in the pool?
    Eos Amaterasu: or maybe making friends with your fish?
    Bruce Mowbray: I think thy might!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Sharon.
    Bruce Mowbray: they.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: good morning Bruce and Eos :)
    Eos Amaterasu: http://www.american-buddha.com/fish.wise.htm
    Eos Amaterasu: 'morning, SSL!
    Byron Tennyson: Hi Bruce, Eos
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Byron
    Byron Tennyson: How's it going?
    Eos Amaterasu: it's easy, man :-)
    Byron Tennyson: Good to hear it :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Byron.
    Byron Tennyson: Yo Bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: brb have to relog, frozen in lag-space
    Bruce Mowbray: Good to see you've made it back.
    Eos Amaterasu: lag-space: Second Life limbo
    Byron Tennyson: And hello Sharon, sorry didn't see you arrive
    Bruce Mowbray: OK, SSL -- Hurry back.
    Byron Tennyson: Oh dear
    Bruce Mowbray: It happens to all of us at one time or another, Bryon.
    Byron Tennyson: Yep, true :(
    Byron Tennyson: Such is SL
    Byron Tennyson: wb Sharon
    Bruce Mowbray: Since you've been here before, you're already aware that our chats are published in the wiki -- and that's O with you, Byron?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you :)
    Byron Tennyson: Sure thing :)
    Bruce Mowbray: cool. Thanks.
    Bruce Mowbray: wp. Sharon!
    Bruce Mowbray: wb.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Bruce Mowbray is thinking about the poem about Samsara fish dying in the air...
    Byron Tennyson: Don't know that one
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.american-buddha.com/fish.wise.htm
    Bruce Mowbray: Eos shared it just before you arrived, Byron.
    Eos Amaterasu: what keeps the fish of subconscious gossip going it the addiction to getting the next thing, the next scoop
    Byron Tennyson: Just lookin...
    Eos Amaterasu: drop the "getting to next", and you're just here
    Byron Tennyson: coemergent wisdom eh?...heavy stuff
    Eos Amaterasu: how about in next 90 secs looking at the fish as they arise?
    Byron Tennyson: That is a really good image, the fish rising out of the deep into the air
    Byron Tennyson: Kinda like waking out of dreams
    SophiaSharon Larnia: your school of fish there Bruce, that's what i was seeing too
    Bruce Mowbray: Whenever I hear the term "subconscious," I am reminded of the subconscious 'projections' of dreamers in the movie INCEPTION.
    Byron Tennyson: The ocean deep is a great motif for the subconscious
    Byron Tennyson: Ah, Inception
    Eos Amaterasu: Bruce has gone straight to vajrayana visualization of his subconscious gossip....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Byron Tennyson grins
    Byron Tennyson likes Subconscious gossip
    Eos Amaterasu: Mick left a few of his subconscious thoughts behind
    SophiaSharon Larnia: was thinking of a joyful swim throught hte water, with nothing really sticking for long
    Byron Tennyson: Are fish a common motif hereabouts?
    Eos Amaterasu hopes someone took a photo of that school of fish....

    Byron Tennyson: Not me sadly :(
    Eos Amaterasu: I like that image, SophiaSharon
    Bruce Mowbray: Wekk, Byron, Blub (my orbiting blue fish) usually comes along with me - otherwise they are not that common -- except sunconsciously, of course.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what does, 'with the net of your good posture' mean?
    Bruce Mowbray: I will bring back my sub-conscious fish so someone can get a photo of them - if they want to.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: I think that means that you are holding yourself up as a human being
    Byron Tennyson: 'Sub conscious fish' - I love it :P
    Eos Amaterasu: in the open space of your attention
    Eos Amaterasu: fish suspend
    Byron Tennyson: Wonder what fish represented to Jung?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm hesitent to take a picture, I've been crashing when I attempt it)
    Eos Amaterasu: and you swim right throuigh them....
    Bruce Mowbray: With intention and attention. . .
    Byron Tennyson: Are you using an Acer PC Sharon?
    Bruce Mowbray: I will get a screen save ....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: no :)
    Byron Tennyson: Ah, ok
    Byron Tennyson: Because I had similar issues to begin with
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah, its recent for me, the last few months
    Byron Tennyson: Oh dear, sorry to hear that
    Byron Tennyson: And strange too
    Eos Amaterasu: just took a couple of shots, thnx
    Byron Tennyson: Have you changed viewers recently?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not lately
    Eos Amaterasu: the fish are maintained by nextness
    Byron Tennyson: Hm, don't get that
    Eos Amaterasu: they die in enoughness
    Byron Tennyson hopes these fish are not piranhas
    Eos Amaterasu suspects some are
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nextness Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: always looking for the next thing
    Byron Tennyson: Argh
    Eos Amaterasu: kind of a hungry mind
    Eos Amaterasu: anxious
    Byron Tennyson ducks
    SophiaSharon Larnia: from the samsaric ocean
    Byron Tennyson: 'Hungry mind' Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: the samsaric fish look for their next selves, so they keep reproducing
    Byron Tennyson: Ah yes, I like that
    Eos Amaterasu: feels that way, bit of anxiety, that you can't quite rest there, got to move on to the next thing
    Byron Tennyson nods
    Byron Tennyson: Cheers Bruce :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Byron Tennyson: Hi Yakuzza
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Yaku.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thanks Bruce!
    Eos Amaterasu: thnx Bruce
    Byron Tennyson: Whoa
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Yakuzza :)
    Eos Amaterasu has received the fish-of-subconscious-mind visualization empowerment
    Byron Tennyson: Obscured by a school of fishes, wow
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Yak
    Byron Tennyson: The fish seems a powerful archetype
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ah print screen :) I avoid it because my viewer shows what viewer you use too
    Byron Tennyson: Why would that worry you?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, I have weird ideas of what I think other people would mind

    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Yaku -- We're talking about subconscious fish -- and Eos has shared this poem:
    Byron Tennyson: Surely it is only your business what viewer you use :)
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.american-buddha.com/fish.wise.htm
    Byron Tennyson: Personally I can't stand Viewer 2 [grin]
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so beware of the coemergent wishdom of doom ?
    Byron Tennyson: Perhaps we should...;-)
    Eos Amaterasu: 'the net of your good posture' could also be the attention of this 90 secs
    Byron Tennyson likes the Being fish :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Byron Tennyson: Can a school of fish teach us something? :p
    Eos Amaterasu: it's a school, isn't it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Byron Tennyson: This is true
    Byron Tennyson: Swimming lessons maybe?
    Byron Tennyson: Or even flying lessons
    Eos Amaterasu makes not to add fish of subconscious gossip to snowglobe
    Eos Amaterasu: *note
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
    Byron Tennyson: Snowglobe?
    Byron Tennyson: The viewer you mean?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not the viewer
    Eos Amaterasu: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Chat_Logs/2010/08/2010.08.10_13%3a00___%22Tao_of_Snowglobe%22
    Eos Amaterasu: no, reference to snowglobe as a kind of totem of the 9 secs
    Eos Amaterasu: to be dropped on a cafe table somewhere
    Eos Amaterasu: with some other avatars present
    Byron Tennyson: Ah, now I understand :)
    Byron Tennyson: Sorry, a bit slow sometimes...
    Byron Tennyson: Bruce keeps feedin me these pics...
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: aww thanks again Bruce!
    Byron Tennyson: That's a good one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the fish are ordered in the picture, plays being, I like to think of it as being plays :)
    Byron Tennyson: Could be both?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Byron Tennyson: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: For me, the challenge is to let the fish BE -- not to judge, control, or repress them. . .
    Eos Amaterasu: coemergent wisdom is that the fish are already in enoughness
    Eos Amaterasu: and don't need to rush to nextness
    Byron Tennyson: 'Let it be'
    Bruce Mowbray: yes. thanks, Eos.
    Bruce Mowbray: and Byron.
    Bruce Mowbray: To watch is enoughness.
    Byron Tennyson: yw
    Eos Amaterasu: they have actually never left enoughness
    SophiaSharon Larnia: plays being and being plays as what is
    Eos Amaterasu smiles at SSL
    Byron Tennyson: What moves them to nextness then Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: that's a highly personal question, Byron :p)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: coemergent wisdom as a metaphor for what´s already there but unseen
    Bruce Mowbray muses to himself: Where do the fish go when I detach them...?
    Byron Tennyson: Ah....
    Eos Amaterasu: Elvis has never really left the building...
    Byron Tennyson: No, a UFO got him :DDD
    Bruce Mowbray: OK - to ask highly personal questions. . . just don't always expect them to be answered.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at everyone .. and waits for the cushions to rez :) and listens :)
    Eos Amaterasu: well, you catch yourself being anxious
    Byron Tennyson: I like that Bruce!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Para!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Paradise!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi paradise
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (feels so lost without here laggy radar!)
    Byron Tennyson: Hi Paradise (wow!)
    Eos Amaterasu: just noting that is enough
    SophiaSharon Larnia: her*
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but you got one with emerald ssl
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wow is right
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i deactivated everything, at first just in Bieup, now everywhere
    Eos Amaterasu: all eyes turn to Paradise...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods at Eos :D
    Byron Tennyson: Not surprising really...
    Bruce Mowbray: If sub-conscious fish already have enoughness, why to they need to rise out of the ocean?
    Byron Tennyson: Good question :)
    Byron Tennyson: To evolve maybe?
    Eos Amaterasu: I think the only way to ask that question is personally
    Eos Amaterasu: to notice yourself doing it
    Eos Amaterasu: why do I do it?
    Byron Tennyson nods
    Bruce Mowbray: I saure noticed them doing it during this week's Time Magic exercise....
    Byron Tennyson: A creationist would say they don't evolve of course! :p
    Bruce Mowbray: sure ... noticed MYSELF doing it. . .
    Eos Amaterasu: ah, yes, I read some of those....
    Paradise Tennant: co-mergent wisdom is non-duality ?
    Eos Amaterasu: yes, we seem to be allergic to enoughness :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: excellent point, Para.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Eos, so the fish are always hungry.
    Byron Tennyson: This 'enoughness' is an interesting concept
    Bruce Mowbray: always rising out of the ocean for more food.
    Bruce Mowbray: addicted.
    Bruce Mowbray: go on, please, Byron.
    Eos Amaterasu: that's related to "first thought, best thought"
    Eos Amaterasu: first thought does not equal "next thought"
    Eos Amaterasu: first thought is the color of enoughness
    Byron Tennyson: Sorry Bruce
    Yakuzza Lethecus: welcome aph
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Aphrodite :)
    Byron Tennyson: I was just pondering on the concept of 'enoughness'
    Eos Amaterasu: Hi Aph
    Byron Tennyson: Hello :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Aph. I will fill you in on what's happening here with an IM.
    Aphrodite Macbain: HELLO ALL
    Paradise Tennant: good morning aphrodite :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i don´t dwell in enoughness, i grasp, i gain unhappyness through grasping
    Byron Tennyson: HELLO APHRODITE
    Eos Amaterasu: join the fish and the people, Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Good morning good afternoon good evening
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods @ Yakuzza
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at yakuzza .. we all do :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Byron Tennyson: How's the water?
    Aphrodite Macbain: wet
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Byron Tennyson is shocked
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Yaku. . . and to accept the not-enoughness of that condition is itself enoughness -- Or, I think that's what "first thought best thought" implies.
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops! still haven't had my coffee
    Eos Amaterasu: the direct experience has enoughness
    Yakuzza Lethecus: oh, actually the concous can be seem to know what´s right but the habits tell otherwise
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *concious
    Eos Amaterasu: yeah, lot of momentum to our karma / history / habits
    Byron Tennyson: My friends, I must move on. It was good to meet you all
    Eos Amaterasu: lots of fish
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you too Byron :)
    Eos Amaterasu: nice to talk with you, byron
    Yakuzza Lethecus: issues on cognitive dissonance, actually my grasping shifts towards grasping to learn to communicate thoughts better
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for joining us Byron. See you again I hope.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care byron
    Paradise Tennant: namaste bryon :)
    Eos Amaterasu wonders if that is Mick's subconscious gossip swimming around....
    Eos Amaterasu: Inception II : into subconscious gossip
    Eos Amaterasu: that's what propaganda does
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, at least they are silent fish and not noisy ones lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: Wow amazing I feel at one with them. Does Blub?
    Bruce Mowbray: They scare Blub.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, like you moving with them, in circle round and round, feeling the water move past your skin
    Eos Amaterasu: I must disperse to the next thing...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: cya everyone at the guardian meeting
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you, Eos.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, me too :))
    Paradise Tennant: namaste eos
    Eos Amaterasu: thanks all, and probably see you instantaneously if not sooner....
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I also have a Guardian Meeting -- so I shall be off to the Village Hall.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you know where it is, Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: OMG When Is that and should Ib there
    Bruce Mowbray: No problem. I will go there now and send you a TP....
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it's not, and you dont have to, but we would be very! happy to see you
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its now*****
    Bruce Mowbray: Sharon -- I'll either see you at the Hall or here later. May all be well and Happy.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im going too, see you in a sec :P
    Bruce Mowbray: OK.
    Bruce Mowbray: Be well, Para.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at everyone thank you going to go walk the pup in the raing :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite. Did someone tell you about ghte guardian session?
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm on my way but will send a tp if you like...
    Aphrodite Macbain is away right now and has not broken her neck
    Aphrodite Macbain: sSorry Iwas afk

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