2010.08.25 01:00 - Sharing life stories

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bolonath Crystal. The comments are by Bolonath Crystal.
    Archmage Atlantis, Kiki Walpanheim and me shared some stories of our lives. A common experience: Things have a tendency to develope different than we think they would...

    Bolonath Crystal: hello arch :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Greetings Bolonath :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Are you well this day?
    Bolonath Crystal: yep, thank you. and you?
    Kiki Walpanheim: hiya
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, ty, I am :) - it is a couple of hours to sunrise here.
    Bolonath Crystal: hi kiki
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Kiki :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: hi bolonath and archmage
    Kiki Walpanheim: bolonath , is that avatar ....a monk
    Kiki Walpanheim: and archmage's avatar has that asian character on
    Bolonath Crystal: no kiki, just a simple yogi :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh
    Bolonath Crystal: as i am
    Kiki Walpanheim: heh heh
    Archmage Atlantis: The kanji tatoo was a gift....it means (loosely) heaven
    Bolonath Crystal: kanji?
    Archmage Atlantis: Japanese character
    Kiki Walpanheim: in chinese it means either sky or heaven
    Bolonath Crystal: ah, thanks
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes
    Kiki Walpanheim: yeah, that one is shared in chinese and japanese characters
    Archmage Atlantis: Once I had it on here, and someone at the meeting knew the full background of how the kanji developed over time......I wish I had saved it.........do you read chinese, Kiki?
    Kiki Walpanheim: yes
    Bolonath Crystal: it should be saved in the chat logs, arch
    Archmage Atlantis: Very nice, ty.
    Archmage Atlantis: True Bolonath
    Archmage Atlantis: Everytime I delve into the chat logs, I get absorbed by reading and forget any specific purpose I came for......the mind drifts :
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: heh heh
    Kiki Walpanheim: me too
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: does anyone of you do some spiritual exercises like meditation? besides the 9 sec exercise i mean
    Archmage Atlantis: If you mean, a regular scheduled practice, no.......If you mean attending groups in SL that allow me to contemplate, learn from my thoughts and the thoughts of others, then yes......
    Kiki Walpanheim: same as archmage
    Kiki Walpanheim: well..not necessarily spiritual....idk....
    Bolonath Crystal: i mean both :) and i am always pleased to learn from others
    Archmage Atlantis: Do you mind if I ask what your practice is outside of SL, Bolonath?
    Bolonath Crystal: well, i'm a yogi in the tradition of swami sivananda
    Bolonath Crystal: i'm doing meditation and some exercises for body and breath
    Bolonath Crystal: adn i try to follw the yamas and niyamas in my daily life
    Bolonath Crystal: and*
    Archmage Atlantis: Would that fit under the broad label of "Hindu" practice?
    Bolonath Crystal: hm, yes and no...
    Archmage Atlantis: Ok, I am interested
    Bolonath Crystal: swami sivananda was a hindu, so his tradition is formally hindu
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, ok, I see
    Bolonath Crystal: but the practice is not depending on a certain religion
    Archmage Atlantis: I understand......
    Bolonath Crystal: there are hindu, christian, buddhist... yogis
    Bolonath Crystal: all kinds
    Bolonath Crystal: i am a buddhist yogi in a hindu tradition, lol
    Bolonath Crystal: but thats formalism
    Bolonath Crystal: actually i am an advaita vedantin, so "all is one" :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I understand that also.......labels are only guides to origin and possible meaning.....and sometimes to word useage.....language is an imprecise tool
    Kiki Walpanheim: nods
    Bolonath Crystal: yes, but language is all we have to communicate here
    Kiki Walpanheim: there is image, art , music, and language, and i think that language is the most efficient tool to communicate
    Archmage Atlantis: Even when physically present, the visual clues we give each other are improcise
    Archmage Atlantis: I think music is the oldest language, personally
    Archmage Atlantis: followed by art
    Bolonath Crystal: that might be true
    Archmage Atlantis: and then story telling
    Archmage Atlantis: Just a personal opinion tho
    Bolonath Crystal: maybe mankind started singing before speaking
    Bolonath Crystal: "om" or something :)
    Archmage Atlantis: That sounds like a reasonable theory Bolonath, hard to test, but reasonable to me
    Kiki Walpanheim: then the part of meaning which cannot be channelled by languages or anything else, maybe they can't be passed down then....or spreaded...
    Bolonath Crystal: sorry... brb
    Archmage Atlantis: I think that is true Kiki, some meaning is obtained only thorough observation and experience.........that is why I think so many eastern faiths emphasize a "teacher"......in Christianity, there is more the idea of "to witness" one's faith
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh
    Archmage Atlantis: Again, a personal opinion......the study of the various religions, philosophies and faith systems is an avocation of mine
    Kiki Walpanheim: tho generally ppl with very good writing and sharp thoughts are ppl who read a lot too.....
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I agree
    Bolonath Crystal: nevertheless a personal teacher is of great advantage
    Kiki Walpanheim: a vocation?
    Kiki Walpanheim: hobby or job?
    Archmage Atlantis: spelling problem I think, maybe advocation, .....sort of a hobbby
    Archmage Atlantis: hobby
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh...
    Archmage Atlantis: but more
    Archmage Atlantis: A passionate hobby, perhaps
    Kiki Walpanheim: nods
    Bolonath Crystal: same as me :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh cool
    Bolonath Crystal: something between hobby and profession
    Kiki Walpanheim: similar with me....only i am at the beginner level...heh heh
    Kiki Walpanheim: profession?
    Archmage Atlantis: It is an odd perspective, probably because I embraced pure logic as a child.....and then had to start working from there when logic did not explain everything.
    Kiki Walpanheim: me too, i've been trained in science/engineering all these years
    Archmage Atlantis: Me? I am retired from the corporate world.
    Kiki Walpanheim: and i guess they can't solve everything
    Bolonath Crystal: i am professional yoga teacher, kiki, (besides others?
    Kiki Walpanheim: so i got interested in philosohpy, religions
    Kiki Walpanheim: cool
    Bolonath Crystal: oops, the ? should be a )
    Archmage Atlantis: I would have gone into theoretical mathematics, but life intervened
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh....
    Archmage Atlantis: At that time, there wasn't much work for mathematician
    Kiki Walpanheim: oh....maybe maths teachers....or reserachers
    Archmage Atlantis: TY for sharing
    Bolonath Crystal: life can be pretty surprising, arch. i also did a completely different job before
    Kiki Walpanheim: i haven't figured out what i like to do yet....
    Bolonath Crystal: in fact life is the most surprising thing that ever happened to me yet. long time planning is simply illusion
    Kiki Walpanheim: now i just want to spend time in the library reading liberal arts subjects,
    Kiki Walpanheim: yes, and i got interested in western philosophy
    Archmage Atlantis: Agree Bolonath, it has value tho, if it is used to open one's eyes to one's own passions
    Bolonath Crystal: sure :)
    Bolonath Crystal: cool, east meets west, kiki
    Bolonath Crystal: i spent much time on eastern phiolosophy
    Kiki Walpanheim: cool
    Bolonath Crystal: and here we are meeting now :)
    Kiki Walpanheim: well...after spending some time in europe, that is what i want to do now....
    Kiki Walpanheim: cool
    Archmage Atlantis: I read so many books telling me to follow my "heart", my "passion"......but it seemed too risky financially then, now everything is risky financially *smiles* ------ then my Dad worked for the same corporation most of his life-----Now corporate life is uncertain, to say the least (for an individual I mean, not for the corporation itself)
    Bolonath Crystal: where in europe you want to go, kiki?
    Kiki Walpanheim: who is guardian for this session?
    Bolonath Crystal: me
    Bolonath Crystal: i should wear my tag...
    Bolonath Crystal: sorry
    Archmage Atlantis: Trying to put together the disconnected conversation
    Bolonath Crystal: good luck *g*
    Archmage Atlantis: Kiki, I think you said you want to travel in Europe a bit, then study Western Philosophy as a "career" for a while.......am I close?
    Archmage Atlantis: That was a rather forward question sorry......I tend to be direct and it causes me problems sometimes
    Bolonath Crystal: i like forward questions... and even the problems that may go with it. they are exqisite indicators for karmic entanglement ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: Navigating the various cultural and language opportunities to learn in SL, it is tricky at times
    Kiki Walpanheim: i found out.....some of my expressions were kinda hard to understand....and misleading...heh heh
    Archmage Atlantis: *smile* - me too
    Bolonath Crystal: an imprecise tool... *g*
    Kiki Walpanheim: hmm....check ur IM's
    Archmage Atlantis: Especially when I use US slang from other decades
    Kiki Walpanheim: I IM'd you.....
    Archmage Atlantis: Duh......now I see
    Kiki Walpanheim: to continue with the convo....
    Kiki Walpanheim: I read so many books telling me to follow my "heart", my "passion".....dont think it is that simple
    Kiki Walpanheim: it seems
    Kiki Walpanheim: both of you have stories
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to go back to work, sorry. we have to postpone my stories on next wednesday
    Kiki Walpanheim: k... see you
    Kiki Walpanheim: i am logging off too
    Bolonath Crystal: hope to see you both then, thank you :) om shanti

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