2010.08.26 19:00 - Being Seen, Being Loved, Being Iguana!

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Paradise Tennant. The comments are by Paradise, Pema, Eliza and Arch

    Pema Pera: Hi Paradise!
    Paradise Tennant: hiya pema :)
    Paradise Tennant: just waiting for the cushions to rez and making tea
    Pema Pera: you look like a bird of paradise, with such a spray of beautiful colors!
    Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol I know I feel like I am wearing a garden :)
    Pema Pera: fine, trying to escape from the heat, how about you?
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: hmm getting cool here ..fall is in the air and winter boots are in the shops ..always find it a bit sad ..like summer !
    Pema Pera: fall is a nice season though, the coloring of the trees . . .
    Pema Pera: do the farms sell apple cider, where you are?
    Paradise Tennant: yes and crisp air .. smiles yes was just thinking of the apples :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: what would you like to talk about tonight :)
    Pema Pera: any topic is fine for me . . .
    Paradise Tennant: hmm
    Pema Pera: I myself have been thinking about time, and about being seen -- just in the middle of writing the next time chapter
    Pema Pera: being seen is so interesting: so much more effective than trying to see
    Paradise Tennant: smiles a big smile and how does it go
    Paradise Tennant: nods
    Paradise Tennant: listens
    Pema Pera: it's like a lense, or microscope even
    Pema Pera: if you try to see, you can only see what you are focussing on, so you miss a lot
    Pema Pera: when you shift to "being seen" there is no particular focus
    Pema Pera: so in some strange way *everything* gets a chance to get into focus
    Pema Pera: if that makes sense :-)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes
    Paradise Tennant: it broadens the scope
    Paradise Tennant: makes it more integrated
    Pema Pera: yes
    Paradise Tennant: there is a shift ?
    Pema Pera: Eos mentioned something related recently, along the lines of "it is not so important where you are going to, but rather where you are coming from"
    Pema Pera: what place you are coming from, where you are in your practice, how you connect with yourself and the world
    Pema Pera: shift?
    Paradise Tennant: in being seen
    Paradise Tennant: versus trying to see
    Pema Pera: ah, I just mentioned that we can play with "being seen" : normally we just say, so we have to make a switch or shift to "being seen"; nothing deep :-)
    Pema Pera: *just see
    Paradise Tennant: funny you know with practice I sometimes suspect that until you get to the end it always seems you are right at the beginning :)
    Pema Pera: (typos can be so confusing!)
    Paradise Tennant: and enlightening
    Pema Pera: yes, it's not at all linear
    Paradise Tennant: so in this next chapter you .. are ...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Pema Pera: . . . writing . . . :-)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: fair enough
    Pema Pera: it is still a moving target, but I'll put it up within a day, so good to have deadlines!
    Pema Pera: I would never finish something without a deadline, I think
    Paradise Tennant: yes there is a lot of benefit to a deadlie
    Pema Pera: always room for imrovement . . .
    Paradise Tennant: finally the cushions appear :)
    Pema Pera: that took a long time!
    Paradise Tennant: it did indeed .. I will have to check out my computer I have added some programs and I think it has slowed down
    Pema Pera: have you played a bit with "being seen" recently?
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Pema Pera: how did that go?
    Paradise Tennant: well I end up just feeling more connected I think
    Paradise Tennant: but I start by feeling very connected .. it just reinforces it
    Pema Pera: connected in general?
    Pema Pera: with the world, yourself, others, . . . all of the above?
    Paradise Tennant: well in the picture
    Paradise Tennant: part of the picture
    Paradise Tennant: not distinct from it
    Pema Pera: yes, being seen invites more embedding
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Pema Pera: active seeing separates us from our surroundings, as the "doer"
    Paradise Tennant: yes the see er
    Pema Pera: in what context did/do you do this "being seen"? At home, outside, at work, . . . ?
    Paradise Tennant: in a variety of settings
    Paradise Tennant: wonders if it works with listening too .. instead of focused active listening may ..something different
    Paradise Tennant: can be tried
    Pema Pera: oh, I'm sure, there are many ways to explore!
    Pema Pera: "being heard"
    Pema Pera: "being felt"
    Pema Pera: "being tasted"
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: "being appreciated"
    Paradise Tennant: yes it works with all the senses
    Pema Pera: "being understood"
    Pema Pera: "being welcomed"
    Pema Pera: "being accepted"
    Paradise Tennant: being loved :) .. being at peace :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Pema Pera: Hi Arch!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles Hiya Arch :)
    Pema Pera: it is sometimes hard to accept ourselves . . . . just as with seeing, we often are too narrow in our focus
    Paradise Tennant: yes so true
    Pema Pera: letting ourselves be accepted is part of letting ourselves be seen
    Pema Pera: as we are
    Pema Pera: Hi Gavin!
    Pema Pera: and goodbye :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: ik do not like green eggs and ham......this plase is so
    Archmage Atlantis: sam I am
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at Arch .. we were talking of the benefits of being seen .. :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Pema Pera: Hi ELiza!
    Archmage Atlantis: Is that the real Pema, or the one some t hink who spyes
    Paradise Tennant: hiya eliza :)
    Pema Pera: coercion?
    Paradise Tennant: emerald is just so much better !
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I have read of the emerald dcondition
    Pema Pera: adamant about switching to a new viewer? I'm still using the old one
    Archmage Atlantis: It is a corporation
    Pema Pera: but I did install emerald, just in case :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Pema Pera: what changed, re "adamant"?
    Archmage Atlantis: US rulings were correct, .....the corporation gets the rights of a person
    Eliza Madrigal: I was given an ultimatum
    Pema Pera: in what way? I'm curious, since I didn't get one, I think
    Eliza Madrigal: "Upgrade yet again or no entry"
    Eliza Madrigal: and, then the upgrade wouldn't work!
    Eliza Madrigal: thus, emerald :)
    Eliza Madrigal: which is a lovely color so fine
    Pema Pera making a note to self to switch to emerald one of these days, coerced or not
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to interrupt
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Archmage Atlantis: If I can get my cat to move off of my mouse......I will pick a color]
    Pema Pera: we were talking about "being seen", then "being heard", "being accepted", "being loved", variations on a theme :-)
    Paradise Tennant: yes very nice graphics in emerald and lots of nice light settings .. in your bottom right hand corner of the screen :) smiles at ARch ..cats and mice !
    Paradise Tennant: yes it is a very open .. flow once you take the first step
    Pema Pera: !!
    Pema Pera: a gesture
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, very nice...
    Pema Pera: it's always so surprising how a simple gesture can make such a difference
    Pema Pera: a little shift in orientation
    Pema Pera: almost as simple as tilting your head
    Pema Pera: tilting your attitude :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: what does it mean to be human?
    Eliza Madrigal: Being seems to make simple gestures... little winks as one goes about the day
    Pema Pera: O.o
    Pema Pera: (that's not quite a good wink, sorry)
    Pema Pera: o.-
    Eliza Madrigal: ala Walt Whitman... I used to call them love notes but then realized I'd imposed a bit on his writings :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Archmage Atlantis: There is no sorry, there is onl y is
    Eliza Madrigal: 0.o is a wol wink
    Pema Pera: yes, was thinking about that :)
    Pema Pera: o.^
    Eliza Madrigal: haha... have always wanted to be able to do that...
    Eliza Madrigal: (in real life, lift one eyebrow)
    Pema Pera: some people can, it seems . . .
    Archmage Atlantis: Cosmetic surgery can
    Eliza Madrigal sits on her hands because she is out of control today... turning the poor wok session into hot pink samadhi
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Listening quietly
    Pema Pera: hahaha, can you say more ?
    Pema Pera: as we say?
    Pema Pera: now you got us curious
    Paradise Tennant: smiles likes hot pink :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, it is rather convoluted... starting with magenta dreams and retreat pinks... that zennies wear black.. then scrambling for focus : "topic!"... but to no avail
    Eliza Madrigal: well, some gems... but in the end realizing samadhi comes in many colors :)
    Pema Pera: like paradise!
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes!
    Paradise Tennant: paradise should have lots of colour :)
    Pema Pera: and she does . . .
    Eliza Madrigal smiles widely
    Pema Pera: like birds of paradise . . . or guardians of paradise . . .
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal thinks of the birds of paradise doing their silly-to-others looking dance
    Eliza Madrigal: but how brilliant
    Paradise Tennant: funny how individual but not neccessarily that specific the whole concept of paradise is :)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and graceful in their bird like way :)
    Archmage Atlantis: i have a sleeping cat on mtimer in brain esplodes
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you think there are basics that everyone would install in their paradise?
    Archmage Atlantis: No, Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I think water is one...
    Archmage Atlantis: Remember the Matrix
    Paradise Tennant: yes .. I think we each have an idea of paradise .. what it would be for us .. but I also suspect it is here .. now as we sit .. as we speak :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we speak paradise...
    Pema Pera: yes, never lost
    Archmage Atlantis: It hurts to be the bad guy
    Pema Pera: well, time for me to move on
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at arch and his cat :)
    Pema Pera: nice meeting y'all and talking!
    Paradise Tennant: take care pema .. enjoy your lunch :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Blesssing and Namste, Pema
    Pema Pera: thanks, Paradise -- ah you got the Japanese timing right!
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Pema :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we have taken on a little black and white cat lately... and I've noticed them now, everywhere
    Eliza Madrigal: black and white specifically
    Paradise Tennant: smiles :)
    Archmage Atlantis: She wishes youk, Pema, to adopt
    Eliza Madrigal: makes me wonder about guardians sometimes...
    Eliza Madrigal: the way he cat we'e had for years sometimes knows when I don't feel well and comes to lay on me
    Paradise Tennant: funny how that works .. but it does seem to work :) .. and animals know somuch are so wise ...
    Eliza Madrigal: anyway, hope I didn't change the session too much, have been restless and talkative for the last few days :)
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed paradise!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles no .. :) it was lovely
    Archmage Atlantis: It is
    Eliza Madrigal: I wonder, with your close connction to your dog Paradise, what others you feel connected to...
    Archmage Atlantis: Nothing that is false, that is not
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you :)
    Eliza Madrigal: for seeing that
    Eliza Madrigal: I know I can be unbearable at times...hah
    Archmage Atlantis: I see you
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and in no way unbearable .. lovely . articulate ..wise and funny those I see ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: I meant to ask above *other animals
    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes they speak to us in the same way as colors do I guess.. conveing
    Archmage Atlantis: too guey,,, gotta go kill a ........ummm, what's left
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Arch :) sleep well
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Archmage Atlantis: Nie
    Eliza Madrigal: *conveying
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite arch :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nite
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: :) sorry to put you on the spot if I did...
    Paradise Tennant: yes animals .. are guardians on a profound level I find at times ..:) I try to give them the respect and attention they deserve :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) I really appreciate that about you
    Eliza Madrigal: there was a show that my kids watched for a while... the title was "be the creature"...
    Paradise Tennant: cool !
    Eliza Madrigal: and it was basically someone stepping into the place of the animals...
    Paradise Tennant: lovely practise
    Eliza Madrigal: Sometimes on walks, etc... I will look and working to be comfortable (sometimes animals feel unfamiliar), think 'be the creature'... ie "What is he seeing?"
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles ..
    Eliza Madrigal: we have enormous iguanas for instance... dinosaurs actually, hah...
    Paradise Tennant: going to do that tomorrow morning while i walk the dog .. by the water :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and being that creature was at first 'are you kidding me'... but so much to see :)
    Paradise Tennant: iguanas
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles too
    Paradise Tennant: would be such a difference experience do you not think being an iguana
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think so... enormous and not at all encouraging of touch ...
    Eliza Madrigal: they are ferocious in their way
    Paradise Tennant: different type of vision
    Paradise Tennant: kind of two sided
    Paradise Tennant: great for movement
    Eliza Madrigal: two sided?
    Paradise Tennant: well their eyes are far spaced
    Paradise Tennant: no ?
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, true
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: they are land dragons
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: land dragons
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: we live in a wonderous world
    Eliza Madrigal: ahhhh, yes we do
    Eliza Madrigal: a kind of paradise in many ways :)
    Paradise Tennant: nods profoundly so
    Eliza Madrigal: for some reason your line caused me to think of a coldplay song : ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mio5-zXZnI
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: lovely choice
    Eliza Madrigal: I love them particularly..
    Eliza Madrigal: :
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Anyway, should let you go but nice to talk a bit
    Eliza Madrigal: Night :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: was thinking would you like to close with a short meditation .. we could do a metta practise for the animals of our paradise :)
    Eliza Madrigal: OH, that would be lovely actually
    Eliza Madrigal: will sit back down :) thank you
    Paradise Tennant: say 5 minutes
    Paradise Tennant: ok I will gong the start and the end :)
    Paradise Tennant: ready
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, wonderful
    Paradise Tennant: gong
    Paradise Tennant: gong :)
    Paradise Tennant: always goes so fast :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Thank you. That was greatly appreciated and surprisingly potent!
    Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
    Paradise Tennant: hmm yes amazing our virtual prescence in meditation is just about the same as rl presence
    Paradise Tennant: namaste eliza
    Paradise Tennant: thank you
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: that, is unbelieveably true... takes a bit of digging at times but always there :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks so much
    Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Goodnight Paradise :) you too

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