2010.09.01 07:00 - A Fresh Look at List Detachment

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Ewan Bonham. The comments are by Ewan Bonham.


    Eliza Madrigal: I've been working on simplified instructions and a 'new guardian tutorials' tab in the wiki:
    Eliza Madrigal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/New_Guardian_Tutorials
    Bruce Mowbray: Great. I will check that out.
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Ewan.
    Eliza Madrigal: Yay! :) Ewan's log shows up perfectly on the wiki...
    Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyyyuy! Way to go, Ewan!
    Eliza Madrigal: It is rare for someone to get all the spacing right the first time!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Bruce!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ewan, do you have a notecard to give new visitors when they arrive?
    Bruce Mowbray: I've just read it - in its entirety: "First Time"
    Eliza Madrigal: That would be something we haven't talked about
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I have anotecard -- not sure if it's the most recent update, though.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'll give you a copy now.
    Eliza Madrigal: On the tab I posted above, there is a link to notecards. I'm working on making sure that we can keep notes updated there
    Eliza Madrigal: also that we have special notecards to explain special sessions
    Bruce Mowbray: OK.
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow! Bruce's notecard talks about the Pema Osel Ling retreat over a year ago!
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- Look slike I need an update, then.
    Eliza Madrigal: BUT, the wiki link is the correct one ...
    Eliza Madrigal: so it was updated, but that part wasn't caught
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. I shall fetch one of those.
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Crystal..
    Eliza Madrigal: excellent :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Namaste Bolo! :)
    Ewan Bonham: Welcome to Play as Being..
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Crystal and Bolonath.
    Ewan Bonham: Is this your first time here?
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ewan, Bolo is a guardian, but normally he hosts the 1am sessions... a rare treat to see him at 7AM :)
    Bolonath Crystal: ewan, i have been here from time to time
    Bolonath Crystal: ;)
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Bolonath...your first time here?
    Ewan Bonham: OK...then you know we are recording eh?
    Bolonath Crystal: sure
    Bolonath Crystal: i'm guardian
    Eliza Madrigal: Bolo, this is ewan's first session. He's just posted a log
    Eliza Madrigal: He'll be taking over for Gaya every first Wednesday
    Bolonath Crystal: oh :) congratulations
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Well, nice to meet you Bolonath..
    Bolonath Crystal: thx, same to you :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Bolo I meant to ask you about your long 'away' a month or so ago
    Ewan Bonham: Maybe i can throw out a theme...not that we need to stick to it...
    Ewan Bonham: Can we share any thoughts about new starts?
    Bolonath Crystal: eliza, i wasn't away a month ago. that was already in april
    Eliza Madrigal: Very nice idea Ewan
    Eliza Madrigal: haha, Things are moving quickly these days Bolo :)
    Bolonath Crystal: indeed :)
    Ewan Bonham: Being a facilitator here is new for me..
    Eliza Madrigal: The way you brought up the idea of a theme or topic is just great, Ewan... very polite and focusing
    Ewan Bonham: Although much of it is quite typical of much of what i do...and familiar..
    Eliza Madrigal: It would be nice to hear more about that
    Ewan Bonham: anything 'new' is always a bit unnerving for me..at first..
    Eliza Madrigal: me too :)
    Ewan Bonham: :0 Eliza
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡
    Bolonath Crystal: i seem to be rather adventurous then *g* i like new starts
    Ewan Bonham: Funny, if I look into it, what that feeling may be saying to me...
    Ewan Bonham: GoodBolonath
    Bruce Mowbray: You're doing fine, Ewan.... Remember, you can always ask any other guardian for assistance.
    Eliza Madrigal: I kind of like the nervousness...
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, i think that is what I am discovering..
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Eliza: I've just updated my notecard, using the template at the link you gave above.
    Eliza Madrigal: there is a bit of clown nature to my personality I think... I may fall flat but at least I was up
    Ewan Bonham: used to feel like I needed to figure things out on my own..
    Bruce Mowbray can certainly relate to "needing to figure things out on my own."
    Ewan Bonham: Nice, Eliza...many different ways to face 'newness'
    Eliza Madrigal: Great, Bruce.(re notecards) I have to re-check some things as I go but I hope it is getting clearer
    Bruce Mowbray: This is an excellent template: seems to cover all the bases.
    Ewan Bonham: i will need to check after the group here..
    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe ease of facing newness is a kind of flexibility
    Bruce Mowbray: I will give you a copy of the notecard now, Ewan.
    Eliza Madrigal: evenness, equanimity to move into the 'new' without over-charge
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, i like that thought, Eliza...can you say more about your experience with flexing?
    Bolonath Crystal: it may be the willingsness to drop old ways
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, that too... so a fluidity of sorts too....
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Bruce :)
    Ewan Bonham: Thanks Bruce for the card..
    Bolonath Crystal: thx bruce. does that replace the old pab information?
    Bolonath Crystal: wow, i just see, i still have version 1.0
    Eliza Madrigal: It should be more updated Bolo. I am creating a page on the wiki so that we all can keep current and make changes in one spot: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/New_Guardian_Tutorials/Visitor_Notecard_Templates
    Ewan Bonham: Deep down, the flexing relates to personal trust of myself and others..
    Ewan Bonham: That all will be OK..
    Bruce Mowbray: It's the most recent thing posted on the wiki to inform new-comers to PaB. I just got the template from Eliza (ooops -- there's the link for it!)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, Ewan. Where does that 'come from' do you think?
    Bolonath Crystal: in my case it is trust tu the universe as such, and the believe that everything that happens to me happens for my best
    Ewan Bonham: Eliza...part of it is openenss to my own 'greatness'...
    Ewan Bonham: And grounding in the universe..
    Ewan Bonham: We are taken care of...with a little willingness.
    Bolonath Crystal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: 'drop what you have to see what you are'
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Bolonath..
    Ewan Bonham: So, bolonath, can you thik of a time when that happened for you?
    Bolonath Crystal: new start, you mean, ewan?
    Ewan Bonham: Yes
    Bolonath Crystal: oh, many times
    Bolonath Crystal: next time in november
    Ewan Bonham: And the trust that all will turn out well.
    Bolonath Crystal: that grew yb and by
    Ewan Bonham: Hi yakuzza!
    Bolonath Crystal: in situations i didn't know how to continue - and life continued without me knowing *g*
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning everyone
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste yak :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yakuzza
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning - afternoon - Yaku.
    Eliza Madrigal: haha Bolo, yes I think I understand that
    Eliza Madrigal: the world didn't actually need you to hold it up you mean?
    Bolonath Crystal: yes, many times my plans failed and the results were better than the plan expected
    Eliza Madrigal: very encouraging!
    Ewan Bonham: LOL..Bolo..ain't that truth!
    Eliza Madrigal: 'the world arises fresh each moment'... fresh context, we can trust that perhaps... and shed pre-assumptions
    Ewan Bonham: So, does that mean we may be better trusting the universe rather than our own small selves?
    Bolonath Crystal: i learned, that if we cling too much to our plans we overlook many important things, new opportunities etc, that occur on the way
    Bolonath Crystal: is this the right word, overlook?
    Eliza Madrigal: nods!
    Bolonath Crystal: thx
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, bolo...that could be shown to us...if our eyes are open..:)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes 'strain on a gnat and swallow a cammel'
    Bolonath Crystal: yep
    Ewan Bonham: Hi sophia!
    Eliza Madrigal: miss the point :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Sharon.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Sharon :))
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste sophia :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi ssl :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Ewan, Eliza, Yaku, Bruce and Bolonath
    Eliza Madrigal: I have a little story along those lines...
    Ewan Bonham: oh, great , Eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: Would love to hear your story, Eliza.
    Eliza Madrigal: My son the other day, asked me who the 'buddhist figure' on my desktop background was, and I told him 'thousand armed Avilokitesvara', and I went on and on about how he is at peace, while doing so many things....
    Eliza Madrigal: and I felt like I'd answered his question
    Ewan Bonham: hhhmmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: This morning I looked at my son sitting at the computer and realized I'd not said a word about Compassion
    Eliza Madrigal: I went on and on about the bodhisattva OF compassion... without mentioning his motivations
    Ewan Bonham: oh..
    Bruce Mowbray smiles - and understands how that goes.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: I missed the point :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its amazing what we see when we explain something to someone esle
    Eliza Madrigal: We did of course continue the conversation, but I was surprised by my own blindspot
    Ewan Bonham: hhhmmm.. the point of what was going on with you and your son, Eliza?
    Bruce Mowbray: But, Eliza - your son already knows YOUR compassion. . . (better than his knowing that of Avilokitishgvara, I think.)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you for saying that, but I guess what I saw was that it is easy to get caught up in side issues which are important, but not the point of things...
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, isn't it interesting that sometimes, i am so occupied with my agenda, that i miss the scenery along the way...:)
    Bruce Mowbray agrees.
    Eliza Madrigal: and when we stop into a moment freshly, it is perhaps a pure step....
    Eliza Madrigal: right at the heart
    Ewan Bonham: Eliza, interesting...what do you mean by 'pure step'?
    Eliza Madrigal: dropping agendas, as you say, is close
    Eliza Madrigal: not as something one can do but 'from' that place of hm... 'what is greater' mentioned earlier?
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, makes sense...cause i can only squeeze so many thoughts into my mind at once..
    Ewan Bonham: Would rather be open to the bigger mind..
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: back in a minute. the potatoes require my awareness
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ,me wonders how much she explains to herself, missing the point :)
    Ewan Bonham: LOL..Bolo
    Eliza Madrigal: you prob took their eyes
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) Bolonath
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, nods.... 'interpretings'
    Ewan Bonham: Sophia...explaining to yourself...can you say more about that?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if explainations to others reveal that kind of being caught up in side issues
    SophiaSharon Larnia: how much to do I talk to myself like that all of the time
    Eliza Madrigal: !
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I understood your story, and could point to several of my own (if i could remember the details) :))
    Ewan Bonham: grin, to Sophia...reminds me of my one track mind at times...
    Ewan Bonham: laundry lists..
    Eliza Madrigal: Stim said one day in a workshop 'we are blind to our blindness'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) a one track mind sure is an agenda
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, definitely ... lists! Ack
    Eliza Madrigal: Hierarches and plans.... incessantly looping
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yep
    Ewan Bonham: Oh, no...now i can get caught up on how I get caught up...on one track mind..lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and its unrealistic to ever think you could go beyond lists in a rl sense, imho
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm...
    Eliza Madrigal: not sure...
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't think 'we' can do it...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: which is the same thing I guess :))
    Ewan Bonham: 'go beyond lists' ...to what?
    Ewan Bonham: Would I go beyond to ..'No lists"?
    Eliza Madrigal: beyond existence to appearance...
    Eliza Madrigal: beyond appearance...
    Ewan Bonham: Lol...for example...would i go to a grocery store without a list?
    Bruce Mowbray: For me, there is trusting the Basic Goodness of being-itself.
    Ewan Bonham: Eliza, the appearance of what/
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi spike
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'm picturing myself going to the grocery store, trusting being to show me what i need for the week^^ haha
    Spikeheila Kyger: Hihi
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste spike :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Spike, nice to see you again!
    Bruce Mowbray: All that I am emerged from the universe. . . so I am ideally constructed to Be here.
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome back, Spike!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Spike
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Spike!
    Bolonath Crystal: lol, what happened to the cute fox, spike?
    Bruce Mowbray: Good to see you again.
    Spikeheila Kyger: I'm still cute D:
    Bolonath Crystal: yure... but fox?
    Bolonath Crystal: sure*
    Bruce Mowbray: YES! A very cute Dino, I think.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes great avatar
    Eliza Madrigal: well... maybe on a surface level one needs lists... but perhaps digging deeper one can begin to unravel the lists.... or rather let them unravel and a 'new' way take place....
    Ewan Bonham: LOL...also saw you at ACIM...I think
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes Eliza :D
    Bruce Mowbray: Do you think that the Universe has lists?
    Eliza Madrigal: and when that newness emerges....
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, Eliza..
    Spikeheila Kyger: The universe has a list of people it likes to test
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahah
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Ewan Bonham: Using the graocery list example...perhaps i can be 'shown' what to purchase..
    Spikeheila Kyger: Apparently I may be on that list.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not alist maybe, but in a relative sense something flowing from something else
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Spike
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, slowing down.... maybe purchasing becomes liberated....
    Bruce Mowbray: We have no "tests" here, Spike - so you can relax and enjoy the ride.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: maybe the akasha chronicle is a kind of list
    Spikeheila Kyger: As once, I was looking at someone's art and I found them at the park..even though they havent been on sl in ages, just a short time after I saw their artwork
    Spikeheila Kyger: Similiar things have happened
    Ewan Bonham: Bolo...for us who are ot familiar with it..can you explain?
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice Spike :) Sharon and I call that 'lovenotes' ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: an odd example of a list i just thought of, its hard to practice complete compassion unless you love yourself, 1. love yourself, 2. and then love everything else, so hard to get out of a relative view though! (as yourself/other as one) :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes...
    Bruce Mowbray agrees with Spike. It happens "all the time" in my life - amazing synchronicities.
    Bolonath Crystal: the akasha chronicle is postulated by some esoterics as a "world memory" where everything that ever happened is noted
    Ewan Bonham: interesting sophia...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes I would love to wander that hallowed hall Bolonath, and read the books
    Spikeheila Kyger: As I was not loved as a child, my mother left me, so I don't understand love nor get that feeling much. But i know it exists
    Eliza Madrigal: so lists can be liberating / useful.. as long as the lists don't have us...
    Ewan Bonham: interesting Bolo...can you relate that to the list concept...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (Spike)
    Ewan Bonham: like a record?
    Bolonath Crystal: yes, a record
    Ewan Bonham: Sophia...are you saying you have an ordered list: Love self andd then you can love others?
    Bruce Mowbray: I also have trouble with "love" -- and get lost in the "romantic stuff" -- but do understand loving-kindness.
    Eliza Madrigal: a strange thing can happen when we release the need for love from a particular person... that love from everywhere can open up perhaps ... @ Spike
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Eliza
    Spikeheila Kyger: I love the world and it's life
    Bruce Mowbray: agrees totally with Eliza (having know the love of trees, animals, and galaxies).
    Spikeheila Kyger: but humanoized..
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Spike, i take it that includes you as welll..
    Bolonath Crystal: or dinoized ;)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: fantastic color change, Spike!
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, spike you are my new shape-shifting role model
    Bruce Mowbray loves receiving hugs from trees and galaxies.
    Eliza Madrigal: MMMMMM
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Even you now are part of the universe..
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Spikeheila Kyger: We're all dust in the wind.. but we're dust that enevitably means something to someone
    Spikeheila Kyger: anything we say and do has some kind of impact on something else
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods :D
    Ewan Bonham: Spike...maybe to all of us?
    Bruce Mowbray: Last night at the 7 slt session, we had a MARVELOUS discussion about "not falling out of the universe."
    Eliza Madrigal: In Time, Space, Knowledge... there is this sensibility of knowledge not as something you have, but are and express innately... I wonder if this is some of the akashic sensibility in a way...
    Bolonath Crystal thinks that we are not part of the universe. it is rather part of us. the bodies are parts of the universe, but that is something we have, not what we are
    Eliza Madrigal: OH, will look forward to reading that
    Bruce Mowbray thinks about "knowledge as something you ARE."
    Ewan Bonham: eliza, yes innate.
    Eliza Madrigal: 'the drop is in the ocean, the ocean is also in the drop'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I wonder Eliza, like a part of ourselves are plugged in that world mind
    Ewan Bonham: Bolo, interesting..
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed
    Bruce Mowbray: Who said, 'One cannot pick a flower without troubling a star"?
    Eliza Madrigal: you did just now, and I like that!
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ bruce
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sharon, and with one another too... no 'real' walls perhaps
    Bruce Mowbray love watching Spike's tail waving.
    Eliza Madrigal: just moment to moment
    Bolonath Crystal: if we see ourselves as parted beings, we are part of the universe. if we see ourselves as the oneness, it is part of us. that's why indian philosophers say that we know god if we know ourselves
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, spike...now thwere is an opportunity to shift focus...:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes but Bolonaths last statement is ringing in my head quite loudly atm :D
    Eliza Madrigal: What a fantastic 'first' session Ewan. You are a wonderful and gentle facilitator!
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Bolo..
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Bolo
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay Ewan :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent job, Ewan!
    Ewan Bonham: ty eliza..
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: I have to run, but appreciate this session deeply
    Ewan Bonham: ty Bruce
    Ewan Bonham: Before we end..any summary comments?
    Bolonath Crystal: famous last words *g*
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Ewan Bonham: We had been talking about facing 'newness'...
    Eliza Madrigal: fresh faces
    Eliza Madrigal feels a burst of cold breeze in midst of summer
    Spikeheila Kyger: I'm still pretty new, but this group seemed to have interests that are akin to mine
    Ewan Bonham: Bye, eliza and thank you...for everything
    Spikeheila Kyger: byebye
    Bruce Mowbray: bye, Eliza!
    Bolonath Crystal: c u eliza, om shanti
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡ Spike...please come back..
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks Ewan! And glad to hear that Spike, see you again soon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Spike so good to meet you and do come back :))
    Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Eliza :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that is my bye bye to people in real life now, I cant seem to stop...have fun!!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Bruce Mowbray: bye, Sharon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I wasnt leaving yet :))
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- sorry, Sharon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) no need to say sorry lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bolonath, can you say more about ----- Bolonath Crystal thinks that we are not part of the universe. it is rather part of us. the bodies are parts of the universe, but that is something we have, not what we are
    Ewan Bonham: love...is not having to say 'you are sorry'...lol
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ;)
    Bolonath Crystal: hm, ok
    Bolonath Crystal: i try to *g*
    Bolonath Crystal: the world we experience is very different from any kind of "objective reality"
    Bolonath Crystal: it is a picture, a model
    Bolonath Crystal: it only exits in mind
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, bolo..
    Bolonath Crystal: exists
    Ewan Bonham: perhaps it is also fluid?
    Ewan Bonham: And changing?
    Bolonath Crystal: so everything eithin tzhis world is within our mind, within us, part of us
    Spikeheila Kyger: It is an ocean
    Spikeheila Kyger: creating
    Spikeheila Kyger: giving
    Spikeheila Kyger: and beautiful
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: and a part of this picture in our mind is the picture we have about ourselves
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, spike...therefor..changes like the tide?
    Spikeheila Kyger: Yes
    Bolonath Crystal: if we think we are the picture, it looks like we are part of the universe
    Bolonath Crystal: but thats illusion
    Bolonath Crystal: samsara
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what seems so obvious can escpae you :))
    Bolonath Crystal: so everything changes as soon as we change our understanding of the self
    Spikeheila Kyger: The universe is an ocean, it gives birth to life, it takes life, it can be caring, it can be dangerous, it can get ugly and it can be beautiful. Therefore even ourselves have an ocean
    Spikeheila Kyger: and we must take good care of it,as others need us, even a tiny bit of ourselves can travel across the world.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (Brb)
    Bruce Mowbray thinks: Spike has a beautiful vision of connectedness.
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, spike, so the can i throw on the ground today, hurts the universe for time to come?
    Spikeheila Kyger: yes, for the thoughtlessness is still there
    Spikeheila Kyger: it is a reminant of yourself..but it shows how you may not care enough about the universe.
    Spikeheila Kyger: Yet it can also be a home
    Ewan Bonham: Spike, i think it is our home on many dimensions...:0
    Ewan Bonham: ã‹¡
    Bruce Mowbray thinks: Aint it great that we can't fall out of our home?
    Ewan Bonham: Lol, Bruce
    Spikeheila Kyger: We will all leave our mark, even if our names are lost. As the clouds are an ocean above, yet they are never concidered part of an ocean
    SophiaSharon Larnia: now I do have to go :)) See you all later :))
    Spikeheila Kyger: see ya
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye ssl
    Bruce Mowbray: Having come from a family of origin that was NOT very "homelike," it was a profound realization for me when I discovered that I could not fall out of the universe.
    Bolonath Crystal: cu sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves :D
    Ewan Bonham: Bye sophia...thanks for coming..
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye Sharon--- See you later!
    Spikeheila Kyger: We can be our own home :3
    Spikeheila Kyger: I called my friend myhome once
    Spikeheila Kyger: and i am her home too
    Bruce Mowbray: I felt more secure, more free, more loved, and more grounded than I'd ever fewlt in my life - before that realization.
    Bruce Mowbray: felt.
    Bolonath Crystal: that resembles my own experience, bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: A good friend can be more of a home than one's own family is.
    Spikeheila Kyger: sure can
    Spikeheila Kyger: my family gives me grief alot
    Bolonath Crystal: home can be any place or person or idea you can take refuge to
    Bolonath Crystal: making universe your home is a pretty save thing *g*
    Ewan Bonham: Yes, bolo
    Bruce Mowbray: I think it was Einstein was said that the most important question we could ask is whether the universe is a friendly place.
    Spikeheila Kyger: friendly is relative
    Bruce Mowbray: "Friendly" also works on many levels.
    Spikeheila Kyger: Like a crocodile can be friendly or rash, as it is an animal, or even a dog
    Spikeheila Kyger: both animals have a wild side and both take care of young
    Bruce Mowbray: Some memories are "friendly" . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: some unfriendly memories become friendly decades later.
    Ewan Bonham: highlighting choices again in perception..
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps even LISTS can be friendly.
    Bruce Mowbray: (thinking back to the first part of this session).
    Bolonath Crystal: like the pab donation list ;)
    Bruce Mowbray: Where is that, Bolo? And where can one make a donation to PaB?
    Bolonath Crystal: difficult to make an unfriendly donation
    Bolonath Crystal: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/Donations
    Bruce Mowbray: Would that be in the Kira Cafe?
    Spikeheila Kyger: an unfriendly reverse donation?
    Spikeheila Kyger: x3
    Bruce Mowbray: Cool. . . Thanks for that link, Bolo. I'll check into it after the session.
    Bolonath Crystal: yw
    Spikeheila Kyger: I must part for now, see you guys
    Bolonath Crystal: sorry to leave, but rl is calling
    Bruce Mowbray: Have a great day, Spike. And hurry back when you can.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx
    Ewan Bonham: bye spike..
    Bolonath Crystal: om shanti, thanks for the chat
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Bolo. and Thank you.
    Ewan Bonham: nice seeing you Bolo...:)

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