2010.09.02 13:00 - nosy questions

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Lia Rikugun. The comments are by Lia Rikugun.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Lia
    Lia Rikugun: hello aphrodite
    Lia Rikugun: hello bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Lia. Hi, Aph.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Nice shirt, Aph!
    Bruce Mowbray: Nice shirt, Lia!
    Lia Rikugun: haha
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes. I like it. Gift from a friend
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: What are you wearing round your neck Bruce?
    Bruce Mowbray: My dog tags.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Did you steal Bear's?
    Bruce Mowbray: So I don't forget -- not who I am. . . but the name that I have.
    Aphrodite Macbain: ?
    Bruce Mowbray: nope. Bear's never had any.
    Bruce Mowbray: The map is not the territory -- The name is not the person.
    Aphrodite Macbain: who are you recognizing when you wear them?


    Bruce is telling us about the car accident he got into but luckily nothing happened to him

    Bruce Mowbray: I am recognizing that old man who was nearly killed in a car wreck this morning and who got a cancer diagnosis this afternoon.
    Bruce Mowbray: And he is SOOOOOO happy to be alive -- right now!
    Lia Rikugun: hm
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh I'm so sorry. Yes, that's a good way of looking at it
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Did you know him?
    Bruce Mowbray: The cancer is merely a basal cell carsinoma -- and can be fixed pronto.
    Aphrodite Macbain: so all's well then
    Bruce Mowbray: The car wreck was a gal who skipped a stop sign and plowed into the passenger side of my car (going 50 mph).
    Bruce Mowbray: She was cited, of course, but I was cleared --- and now am one grateful dude.
    Lia Rikugun: this really happened?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh! are you hurt?
    Bruce Mowbray: No one was hurt -- for which the woman and I were so grateful and happy,
    Lia Rikugun: i am so sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: So you are the "old man" you were referring to?
    Bruce Mowbray: but it was a miracle that neither of us were not killed - considering the circumstances.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the old man has the same name as I do -- BUT can THAT be ME???
    Aphrodite Macbain: could be
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you, Lia -- but all's well.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hope you car's insured
    Lia Rikugun: I send you all my good energies :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste :)
    Lia Rikugun: hello bolonath
    Qt Core: hi all
    Aphrodite Macbain: namaste Bolonath
    Lia Rikugun: hello qt
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes, It's insured. If you like, I'll upload a photo of the damage.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Bolonath!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yo, Qt!
    Lia Rikugun: Bruce I hope everything will be fine, and I am happy nothing happened to you during the accident!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: sure. I'll appreciate it's appearance, despite the horror of it
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks o much, Lia. We are all just fine. And lucky !
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bolonath- Bruce's car got hit by anothecar today
    Bolonath Crystal: omg
    Bruce Mowbray: No horror --- just happy and glad to be here among friends.
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Bolonath Crystal: good to see u r ok
    Bruce Mowbray: Yo, Zon!
    Zon Quar: heya all
    Bruce Mowbray: thanks, Bolo.
    Qt Core: being glad you are ok, is the car functioning or is it dead ?
    Lia Rikugun: upsi, poor car
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste zon :)


    after the car accident: other bad news

    Bruce Mowbray: The car is fine -- right after the accident I had to go to my dermitologist who gave me a diagnosis of skin cancer ---
    Lia Rikugun: hi zon
    Bruce Mowbray: BUT it's the easiest form of cancer to fix. . . and we all had a good laugh about the day's events.
    Bolonath Crystal: wow, you still laugh
    Bruce Mowbray: Now I'm home again and happy to be at the PaB Pavilion!!
    Bruce Mowbray: Laugh? OF COURSE !!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I had the same kind of cancer on my face. They removed it easily. Never a problem again
    Bruce Mowbray: Sure, Aph. No Problem with that at all!! I am one lucky old man!
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste sophia :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Zon, Qt, Lia, Aphrodite, Bolonath and Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Welcome, Sharon!
    Lia Rikugun: hello sohpiasharon
    Zon Quar: sophiaaa
    Qt Core: Hi Sharon, and hi Zon that i forgot to greet before!
    Zon Quar: sophia means wisdom
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Sophia
    Aphrodite Macbain: Aphrodite and Sophia - we cover a world of things.
    Zon Quar: all that is needed


    Marly joins us and has some problems finding a cushion to sit on...

    Qt Core: Hi Marly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Marly
    Marly Milena: Hi!
    Lia Rikugun: hello marly
    Zon Quar: Marly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it does mean wisdon, in my case hoping to have some ^^ and yes Aphrodite :)), it seems to include most - love nd wisdonm
    Zon Quar: something is missing
    Zon Quar: will
    Bruce Mowbray: welcome, Marly.
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste marly
    SophiaSharon Larnia turns on the light next to the keyboard
    Marly Milena: May I have a cushion, please?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Marly, nice to meet you!
    Lia Rikugun: please you can just use any
    Aphrodite Macbain: What is Octagon?
    Qt Core: Sure!
    Bruce Mowbray: Sure, Marly, click on any one you choose.
    Aphrodite Macbain: clickand sit
    Lia Rikugun: are you here for the first time marly?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: certainly Marly :) you have to right click on the cushion and 'sit here'
    Bruce Mowbray: (and if you don't like the posture, click on 'touch' and it changes).
    Marly Milena: I don't see an empty cushion
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh sorry i see you not new
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to sl i meant
    Lia Rikugun: i am not sure what to do about the cushions does anybody know?
    Bruce Mowbray: In some viewers, it takes a while for them to rez. Please be patient and they will come into view soon.
    Aphrodite Macbain: There ar many. Click on a blue or red one
    Bolonath Crystal: maybe they need a time to appear
    SophiaSharon Larnia: it takes my viewer a long time
    Lia Rikugun: can you use my cushion?
    Bruce Mowbray: yeah. . . but just stick around, Marly and they will come into view.
    Bolonath Crystal: i always appreciate the appearance of cushions :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Bruce Mowbray also appreciates the presence of the appearance of cushions -- and everything else, too!
    Aphrodite Macbain: When I build my little cabin here, I will fill it with multicoloured cushions
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yayyyyy for Aph!
    Lia Rikugun: haha, now you are sitting on my shoulder, but thats fine :)
    Bolonath Crystal: :)
    Lia Rikugun: a little neck massage
    Bruce Mowbray: You can sit on my shoulder ANYtime, Marly.
    Lia Rikugun: i thought you could maybe see my cushion marly? but probably you cannot see any
    Bruce Mowbray: (I'm two cushions to your left.)
    Marly Milena: Haha, Something DOES NOT WANT ME TO SIT!
    Lia Rikugun: try agaion
    Aphrodite Macbain: move around a bit and try another
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thats weird Marly, but i have trouble like in this sim sometimes
    Marly Milena: YAYYYYYYYY
    Bolonath Crystal: fine :)
    Bruce Mowbray: No no no. WE want you to sit -- and that's all that counts. So, please stay.
    Lia Rikugun: HA, it worked
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like that*
    Aphrodite Macbain: yippee
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed
    Lia Rikugun: yeay!!
    Bruce Mowbray: There you are!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yay!
    Bruce Mowbray issues forth a huge sigh.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: giggles
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are now all sitting comfortably
    Bruce Mowbray: yes.
    Lia Rikugun: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: ready for the story to begin
    Lia Rikugun: listening


    listening to sounds

    Aphrodite Macbain: I hear birds
    Aphrodite Macbain: and water
    Aphrodite Macbain: and the sound of my cat purring
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (brb)
    Lia Rikugun: i hear the clock: tik tak tik tak
    Bruce Mowbray: I hear all of the above and also the air conditioner.
    Aphrodite Macbain: peace
    Aphrodite Macbain: does Blub make any sound?
    Qt Core: no one hearing the fans of their pc ?
    Lia Rikugun: brb phone
    Qt Core: (i am)
    Aphrodite Macbain: not until you mentioned it!
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub is essentially soundless --- except sometimes he sort of gives me a rant. . .
    Qt Core: So, MArly have you even been here before ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: what does he rant about? Is he tired ofswimming in air?
    Qt Core: (have someone already asked you this in im , maybe ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: well, not even air..


    wisdom, love and will

    SophiaSharon Larnia: reads back and read what Zon said earlier, love, wisdom, and something missing... will... I haven't thought about that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the idea of will having a place
    Zon Quar: yes
    Zon Quar: wisdom love will
    Aphrodite Macbain: what else is needed other than love and wisdon. good question for us.
    Zon Quar: we need to act
    Zon Quar: ther comes will
    SophiaSharon Larnia: will seems to me to be about desiring something, but also in a positive sense
    Lia Rikugun: sorry am back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Bolonath Crystal: wb lia
    Zon Quar: no..will is not desire¨
    Aphrodite Macbain: that can follow out of love and wisdom
    Aphrodite Macbain: don't be sorry to be back
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Zon Quar: they r interlinked
    SophiaSharon Larnia: will and action
    Zon Quar: but love withou will to act accordingly
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Lia, please do not be sorry that you are back- - - We are HAPPY that you are back.
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps just "being"
    Bolonath Crystal: namaste yak :)
    Zon Quar: isnot complete
    Lia Rikugun: hehe ;)
    Qt Core: Hi Yaku
    Lia Rikugun: hi yaku
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Yaku
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Yaku!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Yaku, nice hat!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ah, i was at berlin 1920 in a conversation it was a rp sim so i had do formally dress
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and new clothes, since you now rezzed
    Aphrodite Macbain: Very handsome
    Bruce Mowbray: Very nice suit, too, Yaku!
    Aphrodite Macbain: we should have a fancy dress party one day
    Marly Milena: First I couldn't see the pillow, now I can't see Yaku
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is will in relation to wu wei
    SophiaSharon Larnia: (say that real fast :D)
    Bolonath Crystal: the will not to do anything :)
    Zon Quar: to listne the will of tao
    Zon Quar: and act
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nothing is rezzing properly for me right now. I want to see the rest of Yaku's clothes. I ahve the will and the desire to. I'll return in Emerald
    Bruce Mowbray: to become the will itself.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hmm
    Zon Quar: to let the will act through one
    SophiaSharon Larnia: whos will?
    Bruce Mowbray: To flow with the river is to become one with the river. . .
    Zon Quar: but u r the river
    Bruce Mowbray: also -- to let the river flow through oneself.


    Assagioli's Psychosynthesis and his discussion of Will

    Marly Milena: Does anyone here remember Assagioli's Psychosynthesis and his discussion of Will?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i surely do not
    Zon Quar: who ?
    Bolonath Crystal: there is an old dispute between the indian sankhya and yoga philosophers about acting or not acting. krishna talks to arjuna about it in the bhagavad gita
    Bruce Mowbray: nope. Please say more.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes :)
    Bruce Mowbray: welcome back, Aph.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Aphrodite
    Zon Quar: no action is action too
    Bolonath Crystal: never heard of, marly
    Bruce Mowbray ponders: No action is action too.
    Marly Milena: Roberto Assagioli was the developer of Psychosyntheses. A core concept is that we are dominated by everything with which our self is identified
    Zon Quar: if i dont help. iv acted neglecting my help
    Bolonath Crystal: that sounds interesting, marly
    Bruce Mowbray: wow -- fascinating concept, Mayle.
    Zon Quar: sounds true
    Marly Milena: Moving from or intention, into practice consists of five stages: Purpose, Decision, Affirmation, Planning and Execution
    Bruce Mowbray: marly. - (sorry)
    Marly Milena: Often a person or organization is strong in some of these and weak in others
    Aphrodite Macbain: I changed to Emerald to see your hat and you took it off!
    Marly Milena: Bruce, sorry for what?
    Qt Core: marly, before we continue i have to ask if you are ok with us logging what it is said here (and published on our site too)
    Bruce Mowbray: Sorry for misspelling your name.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the wiki site is here: http://wiki.playasbeing.org/
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if you havent seen it :)
    Marly Milena: Sure, I am an OPEN BOOK- :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Bruce Mowbray loves "open book".
    Qt Core: good, we have to ask anyone anyway ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thinks of letting yourself be seen like being an open book
    Marly Milena: I would be just about impossible to blackmail since I don't mind being KNOWN
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes. So life-changing to 'let yourself be seen.'
    Bruce Mowbray: no hiding.
    Bruce Mowbray: what a relief.
    Marly Milena: Yes, I love nosy questions---to ask and to answer them!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Assagioli's Egg Diagram, looks so familiar
    Marly Milena: It was around a lot in the seventies
    Zon Quar: whats that
    SophiaSharon Larnia: he's drawn from many sources, i think
    SophiaSharon Larnia: or is it the other way around, I googled Assagioli
    Marly Milena: And many sources have drawn from him. LOL
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Marly Milena: Hahaha, Synchronicity, Sophia!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Bruce Mowbray wonders what "nosey questions" Marly wants to ask.
    Aphrodite Macbain: on thee phone
    SophiaSharon Larnia: so many different philosophers determining how many body layers we have
    Bruce Mowbray wonders -- Is Aph's phone a Quaker?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
    Aphrodite Macbain: no why do you as k
    Bruce Mowbray: Thee phone, my dear.


    nosy questions

    Marly Milena: Would this group like to indulge in some Nosy Questions, I wonder.....
    Bruce Mowbray: SURE!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thy friends will wait for you in the pavilion Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: sure
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sure MArly
    Aphrodite Macbain: we could always lie
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :D
    Marly Milena: Haha, that sort of defeats the purpose
    Bruce Mowbray: Fire away with thy nosey questions, Marly.
    Aphrodite Macbain: tru
    Marly Milena: If the purpose is for us to be free with disclosure
    Marly Milena: So the first---meta---question is HOW WILLING ARE YOU TO BE KNOWN BELOW THE SURFACE?
    Bruce Mowbray: The purpose, as I understand it, is not to hide.
    Bruce Mowbray: To let ourselves be seen.
    Aphrodite Macbain: quite
    Marly Milena: RIGHT, and that is SO easy here, n'est-ce pas?
    Bruce Mowbray: What surface?
    Aphrodite Macbain: happy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: its an exploration Marly, the only way for some to find that out is to see
    Aphrodite Macbain: ha ha
    Qt Core: depend on the day ;-)
    Zon Quar: life is a hide and seek game
    Marly Milena: Is it easier to here?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: easier, and habitual
    Bruce Mowbray wonders: Are we hiding or seeking ?
    Zon Quar: both
    Zon Quar: thats the fun of it
    Marly Milena: Well, the stuff I do here is an antidote to that!
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-) Bruce agrees totally with Zon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive called myself a seeker, maybe i should call it hide-n-seeker
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice!
    Zon Quar: u r palying the seeker part
    Marly Milena: How many here, besides me, have their RL photo on their profile?
    Bruce Mowbray: I do!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: not i
    Zon Quar: never
    Lia Rikugun: i dont
    Bruce Mowbray: I also have a lot of info there -- RAW exposure.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I would liek to be invisible as I move through the world
    Bruce Mowbray: What's to hide???
    Zon Quar: what is to expose
    Aphrodite Macbain: so I am not self consious at all
    Marly Milena: OK< so that is one level of revealing. I am interested in what there is about being seen As You Are in RL that affects your SL life in some way
    Aphrodite Macbain: I can see and not be sen. Very freeing
    Bruce Mowbray: Some day I WILL be invisible -- but for now -- there is this skin-bag situation. . .
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Marly Milena: For me, I make very little distinction between the two as separate entities. This is just a creative variation of that
    Aphrodite Macbain: Not always, just when I'm feeling agrophobic
    Bruce Mowbray: What I am in RL seems to necessitate my involvement in Sl -- for balance.
    Aphrodite Macbain: SL is a great way of being both seen and not seen
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: a voice with a cartoon body
    Zon Quar: rl is sl, both dreams


    Marly did a workshop where people distorted their avatar looks, so some of us tried too :)

    Marly Milena: Aphrodite, I did a workshop here a few weeks ago where people totally distorted their Av looks. It was POWerful!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ha!
    Aphrodite Macbain: how so?
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "both SL and RL are dreams."
    Qt Core: and still both rl and sl are lifes
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are stuff that dreams are made of
    Zon Quar: we live in our thoughts
    Marly Milena: Well, for instance, changing gender, bulking up, getting wispy, all had effects
    Bruce Mowbray agrees that Sl is indeed a LIFE.
    Aphrodite Macbain: and in our projected images
    Zon Quar: thought is a dream with eyes open
    Aphrodite Macbain: did you feel you were suddently seeing strangers Marly?
    Marly Milena: Some were very uncomfortable, some were ecstatic
    Qt Core: all sticking to human or at least living forms, Marly ? ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: why ecstatic?
    Marly Milena: For this particular workshop, Qt, we stuck to human
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) I was a bit alarmed when i made this avatar a male, by clicking a button, had to undo it right away
    Aphrodite Macbain: interesting. why was it so frightening do you thnk?
    Zon Quar: i must try
    Marly Milena: Ecstatic---freeing--the realization that we can be whatever size or shape we want in seconds
    Lia Rikugun: is it so easy?
    Bruce Mowbray: Zon -- be well! and happy.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I cant do it with my avi
    Zon Quar: do i look beautiful ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)) nice Zon
    Aphrodite Macbain: Zon you have hips!
    Lia Rikugun: HAHA (with my low voice)
    Zon Quar: i feel sexy
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and boobs
    Bruce Mowbray: cool, Zon.
    Qt Core: not really Zon, you are still wearing a male skin and shape
    Zon Quar: i want to know myself better
    Bruce Mowbray wonders how to do that.
    Lia Rikugun: hehe tahts so funny
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce- you tried turning into a girl didn't you - using your own avi?
    Zon Quar: and a big butt
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Lia, did you just get buff? :D
    SophiaSharon Larnia: laughs
    Marly Milena: OK, what happens to your perception of me now?
    Lia Rikugun: "hey baby, how you doin?"
    Bruce Mowbray: I have an avi that is female -- but she is not me.
    Lia Rikugun: haha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: omg :)
    Bruce Mowbray: She is Io Larkspur.
    Zon Quar: i feel lesbian thoughts
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahah
    Zon Quar: betetr change
    Qt Core: if i'm right several pabbers hava a different sex alt, how it is that different from just changing the sex of the main one ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hi Eliza :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bruce, I thought you attempted to transfor Bruce into a femalshape and wor her at teh Think Tank
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I think we are changing our genders
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone :) On the way to WoK but ::;waves::::
    SophiaSharon Larnia: waves
    Lia Rikugun: waving back!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Uh oh bruce is going to return as his female avi
    Qt Core: Hi Eliza, have fun
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hail and welcome Io
    Zon Quar: gtg, bye all
    Aphrodite Macbain: I can return as Burly Mothman but Aphro would have to leave
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Zon
    SophiaSharon Larnia: have fun
    Io Larkspur: Hello, everyone.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye by who ever you are now!
    Qt Core: Hi Io
    Bolonath Crystal: i have to go too
    Marly Milena: Nobody has talked to me since I got fat. LOL
    Bolonath Crystal: bye all
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Bolonath :)
    Bolonath Crystal: om shanti
    Qt Core: (do you know that "io" is "I" in italian, Io ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Marly!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: lol hello!!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hehe You look very comfortable in your skin Marly
    Io Larkspur wait for the dust to clear.
    Qt Core: did you ?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you were out of my viewer range i didnt see you :)
    Qt Core: i just niticed you went away
    Lia Rikugun: ahhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh my it's 2 pm.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :))
    Marly Milena: Having lag problems
    Io Larkspur: No -- It's 5 pm.
    Lia Rikugun: yes its bedtime for me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes indeed MArly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: me too
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Lia :)
    Lia Rikugun: just one quick question io, have you been here before?
    Io Larkspur: Sleep well and pleasant dreams. Lia and Sharon.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hio Io seems we've met somewhere before
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Io is Bruse Lia :D
    Marly Milena: Nice to meet you all.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Bruce*
    Lia Rikugun: ohhhhh
    Aphrodite Macbain: very pretty!
    Lia Rikugun: hm i missed that :)
    Lia Rikugun: sorry!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: nice to meet you also and hope to see you
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Lia Rikugun: good night all, nice to see you!!


    Qt Core: i tried several time to get a decend fat av
    Io Larkspur actually is not sure WHO she is.
    Aphrodite Macbain: You must have an excelent diet
    SophiaSharon Larnia: hahha
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yea the sliders are weird in sl
    Qt Core: to be more like my rl shape ;-) but they become easily deformed, not human almost
    Aphrodite Macbain: tho I'm not sure it's too healthy to loose that much weight so quickly
    SophiaSharon Larnia: haha
    Marly Milena: Wouldn't it be great to control one's weight in two seconds like you can here! LOL
    Qt Core: (that is tried without spending money, probably spending some thousand L$ i would find one)
    Aphrodite Macbain: ones weight and shape and clothes!
    Io Larkspur: Marly, I hope you got all your nosey questions answered.
    Qt Core: i could kill for that ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I missed the nosy questions
    Aphrodite Macbain: nosey
    Marly Milena: Haha, it was an evolutionary flow
    Io Larkspur: me too -- I was oin the ethers when they were being asked.
    Aphrodite Macbain: rosey nosey posey
    Io Larkspur: in.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, a:)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: minus a
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must go lovely people whoever you are
    Io Larkspur: ;-)
    Qt Core: it is nice to met new people here, new people, different minds, different questions, new ideas
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye Aphrodite
    Marly Milena: BTW, I am looking for an admin. asst.
    Io Larkspur: Goodbye, Aph.
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye and stay saf!
    Qt Core: bye Aphro
    Aphrodite Macbain: safe
    Marly Milena: If you know anyone who loves arts and psychology.....
    Qt Core: what kind of assistence, Marly ?
    Io Larkspur: Bruce is the wreckless driver - not me.
    Marly Milena: also, we have some very reasonable parcels on our beautiful sim.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do, but my plate is rather ful
    Qt Core: thinking about Bleu...
    Io Larkspur listens intently to Marly.
    Qt Core: especially for the art part ;-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Marly Milena: QT, can I send you a notecard about it?
    Io Larkspur: Just a second -- I want Bruce toi hear this...
    Qt Core: a notecard is never refused ;-)
    Io Larkspur: to hear this.
    Qt Core: (even if i'm 100% not artistic)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I'll take one too Marly if you dont mind, because im, well, nosy :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I would love to have one of your notecards, Marty.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: wb Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you.
    Qt Core: i'm having a almost violent wish to go cube after all the av discussion ;-)
    Qt Core: sorry
    Bruce Mowbray: That's cool, Qt. Go cube -- if that's you.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: smiles
    Qt Core: :-]
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) has the urge to pile Qt up and make stuff out of him hehe
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I do have to go :)
    Qt Core: long time since i wandered last time in a sandbox like this :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Qt is a box suspended in mid-air above his cushion (for the record.)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: by Qt, Bruce, nice to meet you Marly
    Qt Core: bye Sophia, have fun
    Bruce Mowbray: be well, Sharon!
    Marly Milena: OK, I will also go poof now. Good to be here! :-)
    Qt Core: i've been many times like this here (sometimes with a borg texture too)
    Bruce Mowbray: You be well too, Marly. Thank you!
    Qt Core: bye Marly, have fun!
    Qt Core: we meet here 4times a day, 1 and 7, am and pm
    Bruce Mowbray remembers the Borg.
    Bruce Mowbray especially remembers the episode "I Borg." -- One of his favorites.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have a recording of that episode.
    Bruce Mowbray: A cultural meme.
    Bruce Mowbray: delicious.
    Qt Core: one of the scariest thing ever imagined, to lose yourself in a collective mind with no respect, or better no idea about single persons
    Bruce Mowbray: But . . . How would one KNOW that he's been assimilated by the collective?
    Bruce Mowbray: It would be like being deprived of oxygen . . . and how would one be able to tell?
    Qt Core: he would not and that is even scarier, you know you are going to die as a person and just live as a body
    Bruce Mowbray: Like the frog in the slowly simmering pot of water. . .Would be be able to tell when it boiled?
    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps the "collective" is a sort of immortality, then?
    Qt Core: immortal facts but dead feelings ?
    Bruce Mowbray: yeah. Mmmm. . . . This leads me to consider what is worth "saving" or "remembering."
    Qt Core: like remembering the lesson of a failed relationship but nit the pain of the breakup ?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm afraid that I tend to remember the painful parts.
    Bruce Mowbray: I've just searched for "I Borg" at imdb.com and cannot find any reference to it.
    Bruce Mowbray: That was one of my favorites.
    Qt Core: they are so unsettling that i'm not really fond of borg episodes, even if some of them are great episodes
    Bruce Mowbray: I loved the way that the Borg individual gradually learned that he could be an individual.
    Bruce Mowbray: There are some fine lessons in that -- especially for folks who feel they are "assimilated" into non-being by the mass-consciousness.
    Qt Core: are you implying that society is somewhat trying to borgify us ? ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I think that was the intention of Star Trek's writers, yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: We are easier controlled if we are Borgified.
    Bruce Mowbray: An indication of the success of the Borgifiers is that most people seem to feel that they must "have" what the media tells them they must "have" in order to BE something. . .
    Qt Core: yes, very true (i'm remembering the many times i was told something like "but everyone is doing it...")
    Bruce Mowbray: and that means that people do not know who they are NOW. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, "everyone is doing it" means - YOU SHOULD be doing it too -- or else you are somehow lacking.
    Qt Core: and the following answer on the line of " so ?"
    Bruce Mowbray: hmmmm... Well, I suppose, "SO?" is a start.
    Qt Core: that happened a lot in teen years told by schoolmates
    Bruce Mowbray: This is, perhaps, the "Wall" that Pink Floyd was singing about.
    Bruce Mowbray: But, you know something? It is really scary for folks to find their own way in a world like this.
    Bruce Mowbray: It takes a good mentor, or a good muse, or a good friends.
    Bruce Mowbray: a sense of being your own person -- and not being a Borg.
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, Mr. Qt-Cube, it is time for me to get some grub together.
    Bruce Mowbray: I must be away.
    Qt Core: or good parents
    Bruce Mowbray: Have a good night, sir!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, good parent would be a start -- for sure.
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Qt Core: bye Bruce and have fun
    Bruce Mowbray: I shall do that -- and you, also!

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