2010.09.04 01:00 - Breathe while Working

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Bertram Jacobus: hey cal ! :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Bert:) How are you?
    Bertram Jacobus: i'm always astonished : why are you awake at such times like this now ?! it must be terrible late or early where you live, no ? :-)
    Calvino Rabeni: 1AM is only a little late for me :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ty, i'm bad, but ty for asking. work trouble or more precise : out of work and very bad perspectives - have to work on that very hard. also bad people around me related to that topic - very difficult ...
    Bertram Jacobus: ah 1 am is not too late - i thought it would be 3 or 4 - something around that ! ... ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm not sure how to take that ... bad people tempt you to stay up late?
    Bertram Jacobus: no : difficult people who make it hard for me to find good new work
    Bertram Jacobus: they want to push me in bad jobs
    Bertram Jacobus: or don't give me urgently needed documents
    Bertram Jacobus: and i feel very tired about all that ...
    Calvino Rabeni: I see, well that sounds troublesome
    Bertram Jacobus: sry if i express it in a not so easy to understand way ...
    Bertram Jacobus: and yes : it really is
    Calvino Rabeni: What makes them bad?
    Bertram Jacobus: that they don't help but hinder
    Calvino Rabeni: what caused them to do that?
    Bertram Jacobus: anger i guess, personal problems
    Bertram Jacobus: being unhappy and such
    Bertram Jacobus: not knowing how life could be better
    Bertram Jacobus: suffering
    Bertram Jacobus: all that ...
    Bertram Jacobus: no spiritual insights
    Bertram Jacobus: materialism - with all it's hurting elements ...
    Bertram Jacobus: capitalism - whether it's time will ever end ? or even soon ? that would be nice !

    A long pause right about now, as I pondered my response to these handles, and didn't manage much...

    Bertram Jacobus: sry - feel too bad - i'll leave . have a nice time ! will be better soon - don't worry plz
    Calvino Rabeni: Sorry to hear it - hope you feel better soon Bert

    With Bert gone, I reflected these little word handles are attached to huge bags of stuff...

    Calvino Rabeni: "Materialistic describes a person who is markedly more concerned with material things (such as money and possessions) rather than spiritual, intellectual, or cultural values; an adherent of materialism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materialistic
    Calvino Rabeni: "Capitalism is an economic and social system in which capital and land, the non-labor factors of production (also known as the means of production), are privately owned; labor, goods and resources are traded in markets; and profit, after taxes, is distributed to the owners or invested in ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

    I didn't actually want to think about this, but to stay more grounded.  About now Wol appeared, presenting a potential alternative to these abstractions.

    Calvino Rabeni: It has just been brought to my attention that avatars do not breathe
    Wol Euler: good morning, cal. I hope I'm not disturbing you?
    Calvino Rabeni: Not at all Wol
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Calvino Rabeni: How are things going, Wol?
    Wol Euler: pretty well, mostly, thanks.
    Wol Euler: somewhat pressured. I had hoped that work would have calmed down by now, but that's not the case.
    Wol Euler: and yourself?

    That was a nice handle but I felt like getting grounded in some particularities, and Wol was happy to provide a discussion based on rhythms and particularities of working life in a specific field, doing specialized activities.

    Calvino Rabeni: Does work go in cycles?
    Wol Euler: for architects, definitely.
    Wol Euler: there is a lead-in time of at least 18 months before work starts on site, which is pretty intense.
    Wol Euler: getting things figured out
    Calvino Rabeni: Long cycles
    Wol Euler: then the building work commences, and the architect is suddenly *extremely* busy
    Wol Euler: because all of hte errors and inconsistencies and forgotten corners suddenly come to light.
    Wol Euler: and have to be dealt with instantly, else the contractors put in a claim for damages because they can't continue to work
    Wol Euler: once that is sorted out, it gradually tapers off to nothing at all, until about a month before completion
    Wol Euler: when it becomes clear that the project is running irretrievably late :)
    Wol Euler: and then it gets frantically busy again
    Wol Euler: in short: yes :)
    Calvino Rabeni: What happens between the extremely busy periods?
    Wol Euler: well, there is always something to do. The building trades are on site sequentially
    Wol Euler: you need to build a wall of bricks before you can plaster it, and you have to plaster it before you can paint it
    Wol Euler: generally we try to keep ahead of the trade that is about to start next
    Wol Euler: so we are working on documentation for them
    Wol Euler: (drawings, materials, prices)
    Calvino Rabeni: So that's not design then, it's process management
    Wol Euler: right
    Wol Euler: this something that is NOT taught in schools :)
    Wol Euler: there is a huge paradigm switch in the middle of hte architectural process
    Wol Euler: when you start a project, it's about space and volumes and usage, who sits where, how the light enters a room

    Process and experience - develop in their own way...

    Wol Euler: but that changes when you finish the rough design and are about to make it buildable
    Wol Euler: after that point, what you draw is not about space but about *processes*
    Wol Euler: who does what in which order
    Wol Euler: I only figured that out after many years in the profession
    Calvino Rabeni: That sounds like construction process ? Or do you mean the design patterns of how the building is to be inhabited?
    Wol Euler: what we do first is the latter, how the building will be inhabited.
    Wol Euler: what we do in the second stage is the former, construction processes
    Wol Euler: and aso the dividing up of responsibilities: who will do what
    Wol Euler: because that is not always clear. The woodwork of the roof plane might be put up by the steelworkers rather than the carpenter
    Wol Euler: if it is more logical for it to happen in parallel with the steel structure, to stabilize it
    Wol Euler: (exmaple from our current site)
    Calvino Rabeni: I suppose you get to quit before needing to direct traffic and ensure people actually use the space according to design
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Calvino Rabeni: I didn't realize architects were so involved in the detailed construction process
    Wol Euler: I'll tell you this: it is our job to instruct the contractor that he needs to supply toilets for his work crew :-/
    Calvino Rabeni: !!
    Wol Euler: "remember to breathe while working."
    Wol Euler shrugs.
    Calvino Rabeni: What kind of building is it?
    Wol Euler: this is a swimming pool/health/sauna complex
    Wol Euler: three pools, four saunas, wellness
    Calvino Rabeni: What was your previous project?
    Wol Euler: also a swimming pool :)
    Wol Euler: we have specialized, through no fault of our own
    Wol Euler: after you get a few such projects under your belt, you start getting invited to take part in competitions for future pools
    Wol Euler: a virtuous cycle
    Calvino Rabeni: I see, you get typecast
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Wol Euler: which is actually fair and useful, compared to actors, because we invest huge amounts of time and effort into learning how to do pools
    Wol Euler: reading all the regulations
    Wol Euler: learning where the problems are, and hte standard solutions to those problems
    Wol Euler: if I asked you to cook a Beef Wellington from scratch, right now, you'd (forgive me) do it moderately badly
    Wol Euler: but the third one that you cook wold be pretty damned good.
    Wol Euler: architecture is like that :)
    Calvino Rabeni: So it is pools from now on ....
    Wol Euler laughs.
    Wol Euler: I like pools, I#d have no problem with that.
    Wol Euler: but a forty-storey building would be fun too
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps a skating rink will be in the cards
    Wol Euler grins.
    Wol Euler: we've done schools and kindergartens too, and a factory, and plenty of housing
    Calvino Rabeni: Over time, what changes have you seen in the practice of architecture?
    Wol Euler: huh
    Wol Euler: the big change has been computerization, of course. I started wtih pencils and big drawing boards

    Wol Euler: sorry, I hadn't noticed the time. I have to go to work now (yes, saturday morning)
    Wol Euler: we'll continue anohter day
    Calvino Rabeni: Glad you stopped by Wol
    Wol Euler: me too, take care. Get some sleep :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks - Bye :)

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