2010.09.08 13:00 - Lost, Drowsy, Cloudy, and Mindful

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. Present were Aphrodite, morgano, Qt, Pema, and Zon.

    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Aph.


    Aphrodite Macbain: I have spent all morning trying to find the piece of land I've claimed.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Storm helped me locate it and make it mine - it even has a name
    Bruce Mowbray: Trying to find the "piece" of land - or the "peace" of mind?
    Aphrodite Macbain: haha if I find one I'll find the other
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm very tired and not reading the chat well.
    Bruce Mowbray: Sorry.
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I thought you were being wise and punny
    Bruce Mowbray: Nope -- I am too tired to be funny -- although I might appear to be so, inadvertently.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's a bit like a bad dream I've had many times. Trying to find "home"
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- So, did you eventually find the land?
    Aphrodite Macbain: no I didn't
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think somebody moved a mountain or a tree so it's unrecognizable now
    Bruce Mowbray: Storm said that he would be re-arranging things here - in order to cut costs.
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. he's amazing
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, he seems to know a lot about building and such.
    Aphrodite Macbain: He's married to someone he met in SL


    Aphrodite Macbain: why are you so tired today?
    Bruce Mowbray: I have been picking up litter along the highways for the Ohio Dept. of Transp.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh That sounds very tiring and hot!
    Aphrodite Macbain: How did you end up working along the road. I hope it paid well
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been a litter fanatic my whole life -- Now that I am retired, I do it voluntarily.
    Aphrodite Macbain: or are you doing this out of the goodness of your heart?
    Bruce Mowbray: I pick up two large interchanges close to a town near where I live.
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, it's good exercise and it makes the roads look better -- aside from that. . .
    Aphrodite Macbain: you mean a busy highway?
    Bruce Mowbray: Not sure how much "goodness of heart" is involved, though.
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, two interchanges on a busy highway --- US 35 running south of Washington Court House, Ohio.
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you claiming this session?
    Bruce Mowbray: I have not claimed it yet. Would you like to claim it?
    Bruce Mowbray: Who is scheduled for it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: no not right now, I might dart away if Storm turns up to help me find home
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. I will claim it if no one else does.
    Aphrodite Macbain: good heart
    Aphrodite Macbain: how are you otherwise?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm pretty good -- busy with car repairs, and other stuff - and looking forward to going to New York for some peace and quiet.
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Did you not have any insurance on your car?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, the other driver's insurance paid for everything.
    Bruce Mowbray: she was totally at fault - so within 24 hours of the accident, her agent had already come here to the farm and made an estimate.
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh good. so why aren't you getting it fixed by a car fixer?
    Aphrodite Macbain: or do you like banging away at dents?
    Bruce Mowbray: I am -- having some of it fixed -- I did that yesterday.
    Bruce Mowbray: I am not fixing it MYSELF.
    Aphrodite Macbain: O good. I thought you meant you were busy with car repairs.
    Bruce Mowbray: busy having the car repaired by others.
    Aphrodite Macbain: you are a very handy person...
    Bruce Mowbray: not that handy -- although I did make my own house.


    Bruce Mowbray: I just noticed there is a mug of coffee off to my right.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I read your web site way back and you have some great practical suggestions
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks for the champagne!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, I decided champagne would be better
    Bruce Mowbray: It's going to put me to sleep, you know.
    Aphrodite Macbain: that might be the best thing for you
    Bruce Mowbray: That's why I have not yet claimed this session. afraid I might sleep through it.
    Aphrodite Macbain smiles sympathetically
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes, the way you're knocking it back, you'll be out in no time
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh, I see that the mug of coffee belongs to you. What's it doing sitting over there to my right?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I gave it to you first. Don't know why it's there. I'll remove it
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hmm Can't see it
    Bruce Mowbray: I tried to get it - but the "permissions system" won't let me.
    Bruce Mowbray: Are you using V2 now - since Emerald is no longer allowed?
    Aphrodite Macbain: drat
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I removed my emerald system this a.m.
    Bruce Mowbray: So, you are in V2, then?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes but it's not very detailed
    Bruce Mowbray: I am probably the only person in SL who really likes V2.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm used to it so it's O.K.. but there are so many aspects to it that I don't know how to use
    Aphrodite Macbain: Like finding my piece of land. that I called Boschetto.-Little wood
    Bruce Mowbray: I keep learning more about it all the time -- like yesterday --
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes?


    Bruce Mowbray: I appeared as a cloud for a long time - so I decided to change my clothes to see if that would rez better -- and they have moved the whole "change appearance" thing.
    Bruce Mowbray: So I finally learned how to do that.
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. it means you don't have to go naked in front of everyone!
    Bruce Mowbray: lucky you!
    Bruce Mowbray: although I did think that the cloud was an apt metaphor of my general condition of mind.
    Aphrodite Macbain: you can too. Just click on an outfit and then click on "replace current outfit"
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I learned that.
    Aphrodite Macbain: feeling a little fuzzy these days?
    Bruce Mowbray: I was nothing but fuzzy (cloudy, actually) most of the day yesterday in SL -- and couldn't seem to get it together.
    Aphrodite Macbain: SL was REALLY bad yesterday. It was impossible to do anything.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I heard that from many.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was trying to find a plot of land - but it was crazy-making
    Bruce Mowbray: Were you finally successful?
    Aphrodite Macbain: What do you plan to do in NYC?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes I found the land this a.m. and now I can't find it again
    Bruce Mowbray: Ahhhh. . . Well, I am taking my neighbor to NYC and we will do whatever he wants to do.
    Aphrodite Macbain: does he know what is available?
    Bruce Mowbray: The first day or so, we will take tours so he can get the lay of the land and know how to find his way around.
    Bruce Mowbray: Then, depending on what he wants to do - and whether he wants to do it alone or with me - we'll do whatever he wants.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you'll show him your favorites
    Bruce Mowbray: I will show him my favorites --- but I have SO MANY favorites, we will have to pick and choose.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have you ever seen to the Cloisters, north of Harlem?  beautiful. medieval garden
    Bruce Mowbray: Mostly, I am interested in teaching him how to get around in the city and how to be confident there.
    Bruce Mowbray: He's a country boy, you know - and says he's a bit afraid - even though he's 32 years old.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have not been to the Cloisters yet, no.
    Bruce Mowbray: Many have told me that I should go there.
    Aphrodite Macbain: definitely worth a trip - you can take the subway
    Aphrodite Macbain: take a picnic lunch and eat it in the garden
    Bruce Mowbray: sure. Did you know that there is no point in Manhattan that is more than four blocks from a subway entrance?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, morgano!
    morgano Bravin: Hi bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: pretty good! I'm a walker and transit taker
    morgano Bravin: Hi Aphrodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Morgano
    Bruce Mowbray: RL phone call ---afk.
    Aphrodite Macbain: have you been here before morgano?


    morgano Bravin: yes ty, lots
    Aphrodite Macbain: K
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, QT.
    Qt Core: Hi all
    morgano Bravin: Hi Qt
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey QT
    morgano Bravin: thanks Aphrodite
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thought it might help you enjoy the afternoon
    Aphrodite Macbain: If it is afternoon
    morgano Bravin: well, its night here, but will enjoy just the same
    Aphrodite Macbain: cheers
    morgano Bravin: I can't help feeling that autumn feeling creeping in
    Qt Core: wow, wine, here usually is tea the preferred drink
    Aphrodite Macbain: we're all a little stressed today
    morgano Bravin: yes?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm not stressed. - just physically tired.
    Qt Core: and it whispers in Italian too ;-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry - shouldn't speak for anyone else.
    Aphrodite Macbain: no c'e male
    Aphrodite Macbain: I picked it up in Siena. It only knows Italian
    Aphrodite Macbain: How has the day been for the rest of you?
    morgano Bravin: not too bad thanks
    Qt Core: quite good on several fronts too
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you in Europe, Morgana?
    morgano Bravin: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: I was telling Aph earlier that I spent much of the day picking up litter from a nearby highway - for the state dept. of transportation.
    Bruce Mowbray: I volunteer with them -- and pick up two entire interchanges by myself.
    Bruce Mowbray: so I am physically tired and also sunburned.
    morgano Bravin: oh yes? some sort of chain gang routine?
    Bruce Mowbray: No -- I do it alone.
    Qt Core: I'm usually shocked by the litter i see on the grass near the roads after they cut the grass
    morgano Bravin: ohh,,that's very kind of you Bruce
    Aphrodite Macbain: Must be very noisy, dirty and back-stressing
    Bruce Mowbray: The grass cutters were out today -- and they kept cutting up things into tiny pieces - which makes it harder to pick up.
    Bruce Mowbray: Anyone else want to claim this session?
    Aphrodite Macbain: darn those grass cutters.
    morgano Bravin: I am not a guardian
    morgano Bravin: sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: I see you've switched to ice cream. Very wise
    Bruce Mowbray: Ewan just got on-line -- Maybe he'll show up and want to claim it.
    morgano Bravin: I couldn't start my grass cutter today
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have to go now. I have done no work at all today and have much to do. I got stuck trying to find my parcel of land I just acquired
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- By Aph!
    Qt Core: bye Aphro, have fun
    morgano Bravin: ok great,,take care
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye bye. Chin chin
    morgano Bravin: very quiet here tonite
    morgano Bravin: do you think there is another attraction on elsewhere?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes -- I was wondering if there might be something else going on in SL at this hour -- something that the PaB folks would be going to.
    morgano Bravin: like at Kira cafe?
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmmm.. Maybe so.
    Qt Core: or all the emerald user still downloading v2 ? ;-)
    morgano Bravin: although, I get the feeling the holiday spirit is now over and people are focusing on work
    Bruce Mowbray: Yep. Has that change affected the two of you?  I mean the change with the viewer?
    Qt Core: no, already on 2, didn't like emerald
    morgano Bravin: oh, no not me
    Bruce Mowbray: me neither.
    morgano Bravin: I don't know what i am on
    Bruce Mowbray: always have been quite happy with 2.


    morgano Bravin: it works, that's fine with me
    morgano Bravin: brb
    Qt Core: having tried it after V2 it felt old and i don't need its special features
    Qt Core: Hi Pema
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Pema!
    Pema Pera: Hi Qt, Bruce, morgano!
    Bruce Mowbray tries to figure out what time it is in Japan.
    Pema Pera: it is 5:45 am
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
    Bruce Mowbray: On Thursday.
    Pema Pera: in fact, I just got up, and I thought I'd practice for the theme session tomorrow
    Pema Pera: yes, Thursday
    Pema Pera: which will start at 5 am here!
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmm. Is that the one on software?
    Pema Pera: yes
    Qt Core: plan to be there ;-)
    Pema Pera: did Eos send out a reminder?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, he did.
    Bruce Mowbray: "Thursday, September 9, 1pm SLT: theme session on Playing as Being thru Software."
    Bruce Mowbray: (that was from Eos).
    Pema Pera: Looking forward to it, even though I'll have to get up at 4:45 am, so I don't want to do it too often :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Pema, is the "assignment" for this week's Time session the same as last week's?
    Pema Pera: yes
    Bruce Mowbray: cool. . .
    Pema Pera: it all goes in two week cycles
    morgano Bravin: Hi Pema
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks!  Yes, I thought so.
    Pema Pera: I haven't looked yet; has somebody already contributed?
    morgano Bravin: sorry I was away
    Bruce Mowbray: welcome back.
    morgano Bravin: ty
    Bruce Mowbray: I am sooooo tired from being in the sun all day (not to mention the wine afterward) that I think I will have to check out and take a nap.
    Bruce Mowbray: [Is this what "being old" is about?]
    Qt Core: water for most of the day here, ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Having to take naps?, , , , ,,,, POOOOO on that!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    morgano Bravin: do you nap in the day Bruce?
    morgano Bravin: I know u struggle with sleep


    Pema Pera: actually I find naps good opportunities for practice
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I almost never take naps -- but today - having been in the sun picking up litter most of the day, then coming back home and drinking wine...
    Bruce Mowbray: well. . . . . sort of sleepy now.
    morgano Bravin: oh yes, i see what u mean
    Pema Pera: any opportunity to explore the intermediate areas between sleeping in dreaming
    Pema Pera: jet lag
    Pema Pera: naps
    Bruce Mowbray: I should have drunk coffee instead, perhaps.
    Pema Pera: waking up for a while in de middle of the night
    morgano Bravin: jet lag can be weird
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes --- I was wondering how you handled the jet lag, Pema.
    Pema Pera: it all gives chances to look at the world in different ways
    Pema Pera: and looking at the world, at the same time we look at consciousness
    Bruce Mowbray: exactly so. I also feel that way about minor illness.

    Pema Pera: so jet lag is like visiting a gallery
    morgano Bravin: I find jet lag leaves me frustrated and at odds with the world
    Pema Pera: yes, indeed, Bruce!
    Bruce Mowbray: beautiful simile, Pema.
    Pema Pera: yes, morgano, I sure recognize that tendency
    Pema Pera: and then the challenge is to appreciate that, including the frustration
    Pema Pera: not always easy, but very rich
    morgano Bravin: having a fever has unusual effects on imagery and dream states

    Bruce Mowbray: For me, hay fever allergy sets up a condition in which I COULD feel at odds with the world -- but I choose to "use" the condition to explore different realms of myself.
    Qt Core: the extra effort to stay awake and vigil make you see things you usually miss
    Bruce Mowbray: I call it "breaking bread with the Darkness."
    Pema Pera: another way of putting it, Bruce, is that the main problem in any kind of exploration is that we want to "do" too much, and thereby try to size it down to our own size -- and being just too sleepy we're more likely to let the Universe/Being "do" it rather than the small self -- with sometimes rather unexpected bonus outcomes :-)
    Pema Pera: yes and yes!
    morgano Bravin: what is the name of the range of medication people take for hay fever, it escapes me
    Pema Pera: (to Qt and Bruce)
    Bruce Mowbray: indeed!
    Bruce Mowbray: I take two over-the-counter meds and one prescribed nasal spray.
    Pema Pera: and yes to morgano, fever can really change (your look at) the world
    Pema Pera: the nasal spray works best for me, in the spring, if I have to stay in Princeton
    Pema Pera: (I typically escape to California in April)


    morgano Bravin: I don't suffer with hay fever, but i do know that during the high period of allergies I do feel drowsy
    Bruce Mowbray: Fortunately, I have no spring allergies -- only ragweed in the fall.
    Pema Pera: Fortunately, I have no fall allergies :-)
    morgano Bravin: I wonder whether my body creates its own form of resistance
    Pema Pera: interesting question
    Bruce Mowbray: Indeed, that is what's going on, morgano. an auto-immune thing. . .
    morgano Bravin: and this makes me drowsy
    Qt Core: i have no allergy at all... well, maybe sunlight seeing my skin color ;-)
    Pema Pera: yes
    morgano Bravin: yes
    Pema Pera: well, have to get going, have to take an early train (which is why I got up so early)
    Pema Pera: nice talking with you!
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- Good morning, Pema!
    Pema Pera: bye, morgano, Bruce, Qt
    Pema Pera: and happy dreams, Bruce!
    Qt Core: and you seemed awake enough, you may make it tomorrow, Pema :-)
    morgano Bravin: I would imagine the body can create all sorts of chemicals,,some of which can stimulate interesting mind effects
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks. I am going to have to check out, folks.
    morgano Bravin: bye Bruce
    morgano Bravin: sleep well
    Bruce Mowbray: bye for now.
    morgano Bravin: :)
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing.... [exit stage down]
    Pema Pera: ha, will see Qt -- getting up early means I may be more sleepy tomorrow!
    Qt Core: bye Bruce
    Pema Pera: bfn
    morgano Bravin: are you traveling now Pema?
    morgano Bravin: Pema must have gone
    Qt Core: yes, he had a train to catch
    morgano Bravin: he gets around some
    morgano Bravin: are you single, Qt?
    Qt Core: yes
    morgano Bravin: Hi Zon
    Zon Quar: heya
    Qt Core: hi Zon
    morgano Bravin: less complicated, Qt
    Qt Core: not really, that doesn't mean i live alone or don't have people to care for
    morgano Bravin: I am sure it doesn't, but I guess you can be yourself
    Qt Core: having to be someone else would be a serious show-stopper for any relationship
    morgano Bravin: I suspect that in many relationships that is the case, always being expected to fit something that you are not comfortable with
    morgano Bravin: I suppose that is another angle on dropping
    Qt Core: some compromises may be needed, but such changes... no no maybe that's why I'm single ? ;-)
    morgano Bravin: not just our own pretense but also that which others expect from us
    morgano Bravin: I remember when I moved away from home, I was so ruthless and without a care for my parents loss of me leaving
    morgano Bravin: maybe they saw my leaving as a blessing but as my children run close to finding their own way in life i fear it dreadfully, my loss


    morgano Bravin: ok, I must head home, some work to sort out before tomorrow
    morgano Bravin: c u around guys
    Zon Quar: me too, bye both
    Qt Core: ok, bye morgano
    Qt Core: and bye Zon

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