2010.09.12 01:00- What is needed?

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    Aztlan Foss: also there's a place, I forget where, but about 300 famillies set sail and take a month long trip with very little resources
    Aztlan Foss: they figure out a way to make money along the way and they enjoy a nice vacation
    Aztlan Foss: in a bot
    Aztlan Foss: boat*
    Aztlan Foss: hi cosmicflower
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Money, money, money....
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hi Lawrence and Aztlan
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hi, flower.
    Aztlan Foss: Money is an abstract concept, you can call it wha tyou want, but all societies have that same concept in one way or another
    Aztlan Foss: you can't erradicate it
    Lawrence Vyceratops: That is an assumption.
    Aztlan Foss: yeah but it's backed by very good research
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Is it?
    Aztlan Foss: we have intrisic systems of value we're hard wired for
    Aztlan Foss: again, they did experiments with monkeys and tokens that are essentially money
    Aztlan Foss: even other animals understand and behave the same ways
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: phone, be right back
    Aztlan Foss: kk cosmic
    Lawrence Vyceratops: And how does that back the idea that money cannot be erradicated?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: back
    Lawrence Vyceratops: wb ;)
    Aztlan Foss: because money is abstract, it's a concept, it's like saying "lets erradicate division"
    Aztlan Foss: or saying "lets erradicate quantity"
    Lawrence Vyceratops: No, money is real. There's some in my pocket and my account.
    Aztlan Foss: it's an abstract way of distributing value
    Aztlan Foss: yeah that's all abstract
    Lawrence Vyceratops: My paper money is abstract?
    Aztlan Foss: yes it's just paper, it'sa ceificate
    Aztlan Foss: read it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You speak about money?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Money, money, money....
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think money is nice thing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if its not too much
    Aztlan Foss: if you live in the US it says there you don't own the certificate and also you can trade it in for another certificate that's identical
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if there is too much, there is one trap, to think to be "all mighty"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: can have "what ever like"
    Aztlan Foss: yeah, if you have what ever you want then you're pretty much right :-D
    Aztlan Foss: most people don
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Barbaric.
    Aztlan Foss: don't want unlimited money, in the end, though,.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its good to have that much what is needed
    Aztlan Foss: I think people are looking to free themselves from responsibility to do the things they love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Cal <3<3<3
    Calvino Rabeni: <333 Cos
    Aztlan Foss: hey cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Az
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hi, Cal.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I do not think its freeing responsibility if doing what love to do
    Calvino Rabeni: How have you been, LV?
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Good. And you?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, good, bad, everything - full spectrum :)
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Haha Yeah.
    Qt Core: Hi all
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling, I use to say these days if I ask "what are you thinking"
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hi, Qt.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: mostly get answer
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "nothing"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I say
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "you are absolutely Right ! "
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: haha
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and whats most awfull
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its true
    Aztlan Foss: Qt Core, does your name have anything to do with a gui tookit?
    Aztlan Foss: toolkit*
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Qt
    Qt Core: No :-)
    Aztlan Foss: lol ok just asking
    Qt Core: np
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Some would say, "I'm thinking." I used to say, "well! there's a first time for everythng!" haha
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
    Qt Core: i think (:)) that mostly people say nothing not to be embarassed (more) by the silliness or unusefullnes of what our mind thinks while idle
    Aztlan Foss: haha
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Aztlan Foss: yeah Qt, I usually think my thinking is trivial
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but aren`t those feels like fears
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ?
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Fear or dread. haha
    Qt Core: yes fearing not be considered cool/adequate
    Aztlan Foss: I'm being Tp'd out, thanks for the fulfilling debate Lawrence, I learned a lot
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but there is nothing to be afraid of..
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Thank you, Aztlan!
    Aztlan Foss: see you all later
    Qt Core: bye aztlan, have fun
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: have fun Aztlan
    Qt Core: hi Zon
    Calvino Rabeni: @QT my thought was it is common to avoid conflict rather than avoid blandness
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Zon
    Zon Quar: heya aal
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hi, Zon
    Calvino Rabeni: as it seems people fear conflict but don't so much mind blandness
    Qt Core: that too, how often we think that others are (at least) wasting our time ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But isn`t there with everyone sometimes something that someone else knows better than me.. meaning there is no truely need to think to become silly etc
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ohhh..
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: others are sharing our time..
    Lawrence Vyceratops: But sometimes, people are not genuinely interested when asking the question, "what are you thinking?"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, yes
    Zon Quar: one can always learn something form every encounter
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and sometimes they do not want to tell
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and of course should respect privacy then also
    Calvino Rabeni: People mostly fear, for whatever reason, to share their intelligence and knowledge
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if not getting answerred
    Qt Core: have you ever tried answering "Bad" when people ask "how are you ?" ? Lawrence ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: What would happen?
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hmmm... maybe not necessarily the word, "bad" but other similar words like, "depressed."
    Qt Core: i've seen many quite surprised, you HAVE to answer "i'm well"
    Zon Quar: lol
    Qt Core: yes, Lawrence
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: People assume there would come answer "I am well"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sometimes it feels like have said nothing
    Calvino Rabeni: I wonder if I'l raise a glass in a toast and say - "that was a very good run"
    Lawrence Vyceratops: as real as cheese crackers!
    adoro Rhapsody: when my mother birthed me
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yeah ;))
    adoro Rhapsody: or when before birth
    adoro Rhapsody: in my mothers stomac
    adoro Rhapsody: or how u call it
    Lawrence Vyceratops: haha What?
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Before time? ;)\
    adoro Rhapsody: pre natale
    adoro Rhapsody: phase
    Calvino Rabeni: right - prenatal
    Calvino Rabeni: inside the womb?
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    adoro Rhapsody: that was a great time
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You remember that Adoro?
    Lawrence Vyceratops: haha
    adoro Rhapsody: i became some one
    adoro Rhapsody: from nothing
    adoro Rhapsody: just a sperm seed
    Zon Quar: i had good time too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    adoro Rhapsody: and an gg
    adoro Rhapsody: egg
    Lawrence Vyceratops: You guys are funny ;)
    Zon Quar: no worries
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is spirit already existing when two is having love
    Zon Quar: just oneness
    Zon Quar: with all life
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but at the moment when fertilation happens
    Zon Quar: ommm
    adoro Rhapsody: i was born from love
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: then comes also physical part on Being
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Out of control...
    adoro Rhapsody: absolute crazy love
    Zon Quar: mm love..yes
    Calvino Rabeni: Well that's very interesting to know, adoro
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Then being is "whole"
    adoro Rhapsody: thanks to our parents
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning guys
    adoro Rhapsody: hi yak
    Calvino Rabeni: Hope you don't bite, Cosmic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: my head is in our budd
    adoro Rhapsody: good day
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Hi, Yakuzza
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Qt Core: Hi Yaku
    adoro Rhapsody: yes its morning here in europe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: where are You from Adoro?
    adoro Rhapsody: holland
    adoro Rhapsody: dutch guy
    adoro Rhapsody: here
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah ;) Im from Finland
    adoro Rhapsody: like geert wilders
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes ;) I see ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: he spoke at ground zero
    adoro Rhapsody: last day
    adoro Rhapsody: 11/9
    adoro Rhapsody: or 9/11
    adoro Rhapsody: thats time too
    adoro Rhapsody: 10 years ago
    adoro Rhapsody: or nine years ago
    adoro Rhapsody: i cannot remember
    Qt Core: 9
    adoro Rhapsody: sorry
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its okey Adoro ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: thnx cosmic
    adoro Rhapsody: this felt like a minute silence for the ppl who died at ground zero
    Qt Core: agree
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Or the people who died everywhere.
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    adoro Rhapsody: thre died more ppl i irakes war i think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But deth itself is not "bad"
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Yes.
    Lawrence Vyceratops: many more
    adoro Rhapsody: but no politix here
    adoro Rhapsody: sure death is part of life
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: sure
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and in many cultures selebrated happening
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when one is continuing path
    adoro Rhapsody: indeed
    Zon Quar: but vilance is
    Zon Quar: violance
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    adoro Rhapsody: violence is opposite of freedom ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lack of Love is violence
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and love walks with freedom
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Zon Quar: nods
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Time for me to retire.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: missunderstanding of heart ways, or lack of it, or lack of understanding in general
    adoro Rhapsody: but sometimes violence walks with freedom too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Have a good "trips" Lawrence
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night, Lawrence
    adoro Rhapsody: bye
    Qt Core: bye Lawrence
    adoro Rhapsody: law
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care lawrence
    Yakuzza Lethecus: sleep well
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Goodnight everyone.
    Zon Quar: self protectionis allowed
    adoro Rhapsody: leep tight
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Thanks, Yakuzza.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes, and sometimes violence when it comes as a fright of freedom
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is a worrior kind of thing
    Lawrence Vyceratops: Thanks. Goodnight.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and sometimes that kind of "war" is needed
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, that makes sense
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when needs to break those pillars of ruling over others
    Zon Quar: yes violance can be in structuress
    adoro Rhapsody: structurelessness ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think it will "lay down" that way many thousand years eaven if we are already on 2000
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Before people learn to live with kindness
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and taking care
    adoro Rhapsody: do the have to learn that ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but what kind of violence are we talking about ? only physical violence in war ? the violence out of the insecurity in it ? the violence in our social groups through not being open to everyone ?
    Qt Core: Hi Moon!
    Moon Fargis: gretings my friends :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey moon
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Moon <3<3<3
    adoro Rhapsody: hi moon
    Zon Quar: violance or dominance ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I guess Yaku, all of those what you said, are existing still
    Zon Quar: to make others subject to ur will by force
    Qt Core: i've miss this... even if it mess with my cam ;-)
    adoro Rhapsody: its getting green here !
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Thanks Moon ;)))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: very nice ;))
    adoro Rhapsody: thanks for the plowers moon !
    adoro Rhapsody: flower
    adoro Rhapsody: s
    adoro Rhapsody: and plants and trees
    Moon Fargis: (good to see this session isstill well visited:)
    Zon Quar: now im part of gaya
    Zon Quar: no individuality
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: _/!\_
    Zon Quar: just me and the forest
    Zon Quar: omm
    Calvino Rabeni: I believe one of the root violence that causes others, is violence to the Earth
    adoro Rhapsody: u bring nature to us moon
    Moon Fargis: zon, just take care no grass is growing out of your nose :)
    Zon Quar: its not my noce anymore
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: its in my ars
    Calvino Rabeni: and that results in so much human distresses that they will pass it on to other humans
    Moon Fargis: ^^
    Zon Quar: its part of gaya
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    adoro Rhapsody: now i dont have to ride to the park
    adoro Rhapsody: the park is here
    Zon Quar: all is here
    Zon Quar: and now
    adoro Rhapsody: i like the total gaya experience
    Zon Quar: omm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, and have always been ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: listening to the birds
    Calvino Rabeni: People often blame religion for violence - I think unfairly - when a greater root cause are things like overpopulation and change of climate and lack of resources
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    adoro Rhapsody: crisis makes violence too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think people should give more
    Zon Quar: ego against eko
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: those who have more than needed, would give more
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and no gun industry, war industry at all
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all those money, what goes on war industry
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: should be used to those who are in lack of basic needs
    Zon Quar: and ego against ego
    adoro Rhapsody: but who do u thiunk u are to know what is needed ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and to waters in this planet etc
    adoro Rhapsody: what do u need when in forrest ?
    Zon Quar: no thing
    adoro Rhapsody: what do u need when in city ?
    Moon Fargis: a map :)
    Zon Quar: allnice things
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
    adoro Rhapsody: money
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, I wouldn`t do such huge limit between forest and city
    Zon Quar: i can play eith
    Zon Quar: with
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: basic needs are always existing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with every human
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: no mater where they are living
    adoro Rhapsody: like pavlov ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well, I might say we are here because we have compters and electricity..
    adoro Rhapsody: food and drink and a place to live
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    adoro Rhapsody: and no computer
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its not a necessirity
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but something fun
    adoro Rhapsody: or sn iphone
    adoro Rhapsody: an
    Zon Quar: we need tha to come here where we dont need it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: funny isn`t it ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: ok thets nice paradox
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    adoro Rhapsody: here in virtual nature
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: But maby this is these days also one way to meet people
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: in the moment of NOW
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Zon Quar: mm..i can almost smell the freshness of teh trees
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all around the world
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
    adoro Rhapsody: we dont have to fly
    adoro Rhapsody: we can communicate without commuting
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and this is FUN
    adoro Rhapsody: and when using green solar or wind energy
    adoro Rhapsody: no harm to nature
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but one day I thought about those wind energy machine
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: -s
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how much its needed to create them
    Moon Fargis: well there is always harm to nature with every step we do
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Zon Quar: what is harm
    Moon Fargis: go out to your door and <ou br="" feet="" insects="" manny="" might="" squeeze="" with="" your=""/>Zon Quar: change is not harm
    Zon Quar: its the way things are
    adoro Rhapsody: to make car it takes more eneregry than to ride a car all its life
    Moon Fargis: but yes such solar cells and wind energy is less harmfull
    adoro Rhapsody: or to fly a plane ?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hm
    Qt Core: but that, moon is natural
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but I think also
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this is a playground
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: people need to play
    Qt Core: the insect killing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: create
    Moon Fargis: yes sure QT it is
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Qt Core: the infamous circle of life (damn song ;-) )
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: And I am positive sure, planet will always safe It-Self
    adoro Rhapsody: me too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is no such harm that would kill the planet
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: So, Nature will survive
    Moon Fargis: hmm i think the humans may invent one day such harm
    adoro Rhapsody: i think so too
    Moon Fargis: in form of a verry bad weapon if nessesary
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: You do?
    Moon Fargis: but since mankind is slowly waking up
    Moon Fargis: of their thousand years of sleep
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think people might raise up their conscious
    adoro Rhapsody: haha
    Zon Quar: then the energy and mass will be used it other parts of glaxy
    Moon Fargis: i have good faith that this wont happen
    Zon Quar: no harm fone
    Zon Quar: done
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and I think that Eart will, safe it self and heal it self
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with time
    adoro Rhapsody: i believe that
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if human do hurt it very badly
    adoro Rhapsody: or without time
    adoro Rhapsody: its timeless issue
    Zon Quar: time to fly away
    Zon Quar: bye forest pple
    adoro Rhapsody: bye zon
    Moon Fargis: einstein once sayd, "I dont know with what weapons we fill fight in World war 3, but i know wich we will fight with in world war 4: Stones and wood"
    Moon Fargis: bye zon
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bye Zon
    adoro Rhapsody: but einstein was scientist
    adoro Rhapsody: and we dont need scientists at all
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    adoro Rhapsody: sorry
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: stones and wood
    Moon Fargis: ah well imo without them we wouldnt sit here now :)
    adoro Rhapsody: we dont need no education (old song)
    adoro Rhapsody: sure
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all is neded
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: needed
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its respecting all life
    adoro Rhapsody: so we did need them to sit here
    adoro Rhapsody: and to say we dont need them
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    adoro Rhapsody: scientista are part of nature too
    Moon Fargis: well i say everyone does in his life what he can do as his best
    adoro Rhapsody: thats nice
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Yes ***
    Moon Fargis: (sur if he has the capabilities to it )
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: brb
    adoro Rhapsody: my tiger feels happy in this grass
    Moon Fargis: so imo i have no reason to aregue if someone is needed or not aslong he acts out of intentions based on wisdom and love, same goes for religion
    adoro Rhapsody: nice said Moon !
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Rl calls me
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Need to go
    Moon Fargis: (see you soon cos have a nice day:)
    adoro Rhapsody: bye cosmic
    Qt Core: mee too, bye all and have fun
    adoro Rhapsody: u tuo
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I will, Have fun and good day
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye qt
    adoro Rhapsody: bye qt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye everyone
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3 Bye
    Moon Fargis: suddenly so empty:)
    adoro Rhapsody: letting go
    adoro Rhapsody: is TAO
    adoro Rhapsody: i wanna feel the grass to my body
    Moon Fargis: hmm hold on then i need to relog as SL eaten my other grasses
    Moon Fargis: re
    adoro Rhapsody: i just changed my t-shirt
    Moon Fargis: ok lets see if sl now loads my inventory
    Moon Fargis: ah there we go
    adoro Rhapsody: wow
    adoro Rhapsody: superb
    adoro Rhapsody: not too mutch polls in the air ?
    Moon Fargis: :)
    adoro Rhapsody: for ppl who are alergic ?
    Moon Fargis: nope
    Moon Fargis: clean plants :)
    adoro Rhapsody: wonderful
    adoro Rhapsody: u must be a green man !
    Moon Fargis: hmmm well my skin is so far verry normal colored :)
    adoro Rhapsody: ok
    Moon Fargis: but you may look around at my sims :)
    Moon Fargis: if you search for nature
    adoro Rhapsody: thnx
    Moon Fargis: :)
    Moon Fargis: ok i think i shall also retreat then
    Moon Fargis: wish you a nice day still :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Moon
    Calvino Rabeni: Have you any new projects in SL?
    Moon Fargis: hmm no finished my latest one a few weeks ago
    Calvino Rabeni: Which was it?
    Calvino Rabeni: TY'
    Moon Fargis: well a friend of min wanted her hosue on a high mountain
    Moon Fargis: with cliffs and such
    Calvino Rabeni: You're good with the overall unity of the place
    Calvino Rabeni: proportions and such
    Moon Fargis: thx :) but mostly its just how i feel it to be right
    Calvino Rabeni: a natural sense of it - qualities are hard to "name" aren't they?
    Moon Fargis: hehe true :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Because they have to do with everything at once
    Moon Fargis: but as always its verry seldom i am really statisfied 100% whit what ive done
    Moon Fargis: for example as hikari was my verry first sim manny years ago i see much stuff in it wich i could enhance and change
    Calvino Rabeni: 100% is ... well did this ever happen ...
    Moon Fargis: but i dont want to touch it cus people like it as it is
    Moon Fargis: (hm i thikn 100% might never happen :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Also I think, there should be a "back up" storage of these creations
    Moon Fargis: ah if it would be a open sim i could easy make a backup
    Calvino Rabeni: I think 90% would be pretty good :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Open sim yes - it's needed to change for there to be progress
    Moon Fargis: yes
    Moon Fargis: but LL would never add those gris to them
    Moon Fargis: grids
    Calvino Rabeni: So you have done all this work, and only LL benefits
    Moon Fargis: ah no i have donation pots and houses for rent :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And owns all the contents of second life
    Moon Fargis: somehow i must earn the tier
    Calvino Rabeni: true, it must be a lot
    Moon Fargis  nods
    Calvino Rabeni: I fear to know, don't tell me please :)
    Moon Fargis: basicly im without work now since a year so its alsmost a wonder that all went so good :)
    Moon Fargis: dont worry i wont tell you that i pay for hikari and hikaru 64k already
    Calvino Rabeni: too much knowledge isn't a good thing
    Moon Fargis: :D
    Moon Fargis: *giggles*
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, same
    Calvino Rabeni: thinking of a particular case, yet I dare not name it
    Moon Fargis  nods
    Moon Fargis: ik i shall now prepare some meal :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Only to say, I met a man who wants to know too much :)
    Calvino Rabeni: OK, I'll depart also - take care Moon
    Moon Fargis: see you :)

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