2010.09.25 07:00 - Nothing is Not Negative

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal who filled in for Bert who was enjoying time with a friend. :) Muy Importante! Today I was joined by Alfred, Aphrodite, Steve, and for a little while a newcomer learning their way around SL in general.

    Highlights of the session include a lovely haiku by Aphrodite, and wine-sipping bears. ;-) 

     

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bert! :)
    Bertram Jacobus: hi eliza :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m with a friend - not at home but have to cover this slot :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, well if you like, I can do so today
    Eliza Madrigal: I have other things to do but can't quite motivate myself :)
    Eliza Madrigal: So came here to get into a better frame of mind :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah - nice - hope that will work ! :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't mind at all Bert ... should enjoy your friend
    Bertram Jacobus: aww - so kind ! may be i should accept that offer ? :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes! :))
    Bertram Jacobus: ok. tyvm . but i won´t disappear at once ! :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: you do the good deed of letting me do a good deed. hahah
    Bertram Jacobus: and my friend also looks at the screen at the moment seems to be a bit fascinating ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :::waves:::::
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - the good deeds ... wonderful ! ...
    Eliza Madrigal: SL is much more interesting at first when you have someone to show you around
    Bertram Jacobus: he smiles and says "ja" :o)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: one question before you go... Are you attending the germany retreat soon?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes i will ! :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: hello alf
    Eliza Madrigal: yay! :) seems like a wonderful group
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alfred :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i think we are only 6 ? not sure, but wonderful - yes ! :-)
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, leggy blonde :)
    Eliza Madrigal: intimate gathering then... will be interesting to hear what you all dive into
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Alfred Kelberry: what group are you talking about?
    Eliza Madrigal: Bert is attending the Germany PaB retreat Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, neat
    Eliza Madrigal: It takes place very soon... Oct 8 or 9 I think....
    Eliza Madrigal: Wol organized it
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, i read
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - i leva then now - tyvm again eliza - willl love to tell you all about then wave* ...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Bye for now Bert. Have fun
    Alfred Kelberry: wait, you're going now?!
    Eliza Madrigal: He was with a friend today...
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm filling in now :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, gone...


    Alfred Kelberry: where are your cute glasses, eliza? :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Here it is pouring rain, and I just want to sleep.... so I came here to wake up...
    Eliza Madrigal: I should find them... and also some blonde hair
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh

    --BELL--

    Alfred Kelberry: pouring rain is nice... you can sit on a comfy couch talking to a friend with a cup of tea and look out of the window :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, sounds nice... It is reading weather actually
    Alfred Kelberry: um, i like you as is, no need to change anything :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, then what is SL for...
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Alfred Kelberry: or a road trip weather :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Anything on your mind today?
    Alfred Kelberry: um, just a light joyful sensation :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice!
    Alfred Kelberry: so, it's only you and me this hour?
    Eliza Madrigal: seems so, though we've not touched the rest of the hour yet...
    Alfred Kelberry: ha! you *are* blonde now! :)
    Alfred Kelberry: neat
    Eliza Madrigal: heh, See. Wasn't kidding :)
    Eliza Madrigal: In RL I'm a bit like that too... always changing hair color

    Alfred Kelberry: glasses is a really nice touch :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I do like them
    Eliza Madrigal: Do you take me more seriously in glasses?
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Alfred Kelberry: um... i think it does give this perception generally :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: but in pab... it's different :)
    Eliza Madrigal: pab is quite different, yes.
    Alfred Kelberry: mindful interation


    Eliza Madrigal: I'm glad you've been coming more (to pab), Alfred... been enjoying yourself?
    Alfred Kelberry: heh, thank you :)
    Alfred Kelberry: yes, i like the atmosphere
    Eliza Madrigal: :) me too
    Eliza Madrigal: do you have a 'spiritual' practice...
    Alfred Kelberry: not formally
    Eliza Madrigal: you've been asking buddhist questions lately... really like the one you asked yesterday re why meditate
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bambi :) Welcome to playasbeing
     

    Bambi Ryada: hi im new and havnt really got a clue of what to do.. any help?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, are you new to SL?
    Alfred Kelberry: i just learn as i go :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sure, happy to help
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, bambi
    Bambi Ryada: yes?
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes, born today. You've found great clothes already though!
    Eliza Madrigal: Impressive
    Bambi Ryada: thanks
    Alfred Kelberry: please, take a seat, bambi :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, I can tell you about our group here, or I can answer general questions too....
    Eliza Madrigal: What are you interested in exploring?
    Alfred Kelberry: which cushion color do you prefer?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: If you'd like to sit, right click on a cushion...
    Eliza Madrigal: there ya go :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, brown that is :)
    Bambi Ryada: ahh thats how you do it :D
    Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes
    Eliza Madrigal: lots of little things to learn
    Alfred Kelberry: neat clothes, i wouldn't think it's your first day :)


    Eliza Madrigal: after you get used to it, it is easy to forget how many little things there are to do in order to function well here
    Bambi Ryada: lol it is i tryed changing my apperance but couldnt quiet do it lol
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, I guess I'll tell you about our group here first... then whatever else you'd like to ask...
    Bambi Ryada: ok :)
    Eliza Madrigal: We are a group that gets together to discuss topics around 'the nature of reality'...
    Eliza Madrigal: and meet four times a day actually
    Eliza Madrigal: We have a group of guardians so that someone is always here... and we have wonderful Alfred...
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah doing a jog around the fountain
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahha
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, what? me? :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *bows* :)

    Bambi Ryada: so this whole virtual word is taken pretty seriously then?

    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Well, not so much
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza, oni-jog :)
    Eliza Madrigal: we are serious, but seriously playful, for instance
    Alfred Kelberry: oi, aph :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thus the name 'play as being'
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Aphrodite :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: oi to you Alf
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hey Eliza!
    Bambi Ryada: so is there alot of people on here and lots of groups?
    Eliza Madrigal: One thing I need to let you know is that we record our sessions and place them on a wiki so that the group has a kind of continuity of exploration

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: if you wish not to be recorded, just let me know and I'll edit the text
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh definitely, re lots of groups!
    Bambi Ryada: so how do you join the groups?
    Aphrodite Macbain: welcome to SL Bambi
    Eliza Madrigal: every topic under the sun..
    Bambi Ryada: thankyou :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: what are you doing Alf?
    Alfred Kelberry: um, but there's a limit on how many groups you can join
    Alfred Kelberry: oni-jog, aph :)
    Eliza Madrigal: When I first came to SL I would search profiles of people to see what to try out
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah of course
    Eliza Madrigal: also asking around...
    Alfred Kelberry: oni animation doesn't work for tinies, so i run on my own :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I joined a lot of groups and then had to deal with lots of emails notifying me of all their activities. You learn to pick and chose

    Eliza Madrigal: generally it is like web surfing.... one thing leads into another, one encounter into the next

    Eliza Madrigal: heheh Alfred
    Eliza Madrigal: I didn't realize that
    Eliza Madrigal: no tiny oni
    Aphrodite Macbain: As long as you get your exercise Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: btw, Alf is refering to...
    Eliza Madrigal: onigokko
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehhe
    Eliza Madrigal: stop
    Eliza Madrigal: See... not so serious around here :))
    Alfred Kelberry: refreshing :)
    Eliza Madrigal: >whew< catches breath
    Aphrodite Macbain: onigokko
    Alfred Kelberry: aph :)
    Bambi Ryada: right well im going to explore the world :) thanks for your help and i might be back soon if i can find my way back :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahh
    Eliza Madrigal: nudges alfred
    Eliza Madrigal: Cute! Let me give you a card
    Eliza Madrigal: so you can find us again
    Aphrodite Macbain: stop
    Alfred Kelberry: i gave you a landmark to this place, bambi
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm much better
    Bambi Ryada: thankyou :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to meet you Bambi, happy exploring
    Alfred Kelberry: so you can pop in here any time :)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, every 6 hrs :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: I missed the poetry session last week. Will there be an opportunity soon to read my haiku?

    Bambi Ryada: thank you guys see you later
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye bambi happy exploring
    Alfred Kelberry: please, read now, aph :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, yes Aphrodite, we went to hear you and you'd poofed!
    Aphrodite Macbain: I had a yoga class.. difficult choice
    Eliza Madrigal: SL was difficult that day I think
    Eliza Madrigal: Ohhh
    Eliza Madrigal: didn't realize
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do I drag the notecard into the chat box?
    Eliza Madrigal: Normally we just copy and paste it in...

    Eliza Madrigal: I think the session went very well, so we'll definitely have another, maybe in a few weeks
    Eliza Madrigal: but it would be lovely to hear your poem :)
    Alfred Kelberry: um, i think yoga with haiku reading would be nice :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: How do I post it?
    Eliza Madrigal: it is on an SL notecard?
    Alfred Kelberry: eden is going to combine poems reading and singing :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: This is a poem for my dear friend Kate. We hiked together in the mountains for over 20 year. She wont be in this worldmuch longer.

    A haiku for my dear friend Kate:

     

    Larch gold, paint brush red

    Waterfalls down rocky peaks

    Yodeling from heaven


    Aphrodite Macbain: That's it!

    Eliza Madrigal: ooooh beautiful Aphrodite :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :::applause:::::
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Alfred Kelberry: expressive :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I would imagine she feels very nurtured by your poetry


    Aphrodite Macbain: I remember Kate sitting in front of Mt Assiniboine singing

    "will there be yodeling in heaven?"


    Eliza Madrigal: conjuring special times together
    Eliza Madrigal: Is she quite weak now?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. I hike with a group of women every september. In the Can Rockies. We call ourselves the Skoki Broads
    Aphrodite Macbain: We've been doing this for over 20 years
    Eliza Madrigal: Awesome!
    Alfred Kelberry: that's really lovely, aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: They are all together in the mountains right now. I can't be there.
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, I see. Yes I wondered how often you go
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cause I'm going to Italy in a week!
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: annually

    Alfred Kelberry: oi, stev :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: it is beautiful then golden larches, blue blue skies
    Alfred Kelberry: there are mountains in italy, too, aph :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello ELiza, Aphrdite, Alfered
    stevenaia Michinaga: ALfred
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) yes!! I'm going hiking in a national park in Umbria. I believe there is a mountan or two
    Aphrodite Macbain: or at least a few hills
    stevenaia Michinaga: where is that?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Umbria, Italy - where I'll be in a week
    stevenaia Michinaga: very nice
    stevenaia Michinaga: touch the sky for me

    Eliza Madrigal: the other day here, Gaya mentioned making sure to get into open skies... made me realize I'd been sky starved! I spend so much time inside lately...

    Aphrodite Macbain: I am going to try and connect with you all from Italy. Have my mini laptop
    Eliza Madrigal: so now I'm looking for a place outdoors which also has wifi.. it is my quest :)
    Eliza Madrigal: That would be great, Aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: sitting on a mountain with my mini!!

    Eliza Madrigal: Do you think that one's surroundings get 'into' the work one does?

    --BELL--

    Aphrodite Macbain: no doubt about it. How could they not, in some way or another
    stevenaia Michinaga: A painter friend of mine who used to paint amazing surrealistic images, some almost goulish, used to paint from a suburban ranch house basement, the your comment is valid
    Aphrodite Macbain: a surrealist basement
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: when I feel my writing isn't flowing well, I turn on music sometimes...
    stevenaia Michinaga: no suburbian ranch house, what other images can you have from such a surreal place
    Eliza Madrigal: so I wonder if writing outdoors will allow more natural light into the work :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: (it was sort of a joke, he can paint from anywhere)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah Steve
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm, stev... he should try to paint the same painting in different locations and see how it differs :)
    Eliza Madrigal nods

    Eliza Madrigal: I find that if I can't understand something I'm reading, it helps to go outside, too....
    Eliza Madrigal: and to read aloud.. sort of like decanting wine

    stevenaia Michinaga: I think if your work is like meditation, the inspiration comes from within
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza, yes, change of context
    Eliza Madrigal: is there a boundary though... really... inside/outside
    Aphrodite Macbain likes the decanting wine metaphor
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm merlot

    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm taking my watercolours to Umbira. Very pedestrian but when I paint landscapes really focus on what's around me
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you Steve :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: want to see what happens to Alfred if he drinks wine, I understand merlot and cardboard don't get along well
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, watercolor!
    Aphrodite Macbain: This talk of wine is making me dizzy
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh Steve
    Alfred Kelberry: i like wine :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's worth a try..

    Eliza Madrigal: prob not a good idea to hike with wine
    Aphrodite Macbain: hmmm I guess.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I seem to be rising
    Eliza Madrigal: I find watercolors so difficult to work with, but wonderful....
    Aphrodite Macbain: You're floating Steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: that's what flasks are for, travel
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza, it's ok for a light trail :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you paint Eliz?
    Eliza Madrigal: :) when you encounter a bear, do you offer him one?
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Eliza Madrigal: I have dabbled, like many I guess
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    Aphrodite Macbain: no bears inUmbria
    Eliza Madrigal: but I really love to watch people with water colors... hard to control as it spreads into the fabric of the paper...
    Aphrodite Macbain: no inebriated bears in Umbria-say that fast
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahah
    Aphrodite Macbain: I send my w/c as post cards. Little sketches on a 3"x5" card
    Eliza Madrigal: umbrian bears sip/ rather than guzzling down/ their evening merlot
    stevenaia Michinaga: w/c?
    stevenaia Michinaga: water colors, nevermind
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, Aphrodite... maybe with haiku on the back now?
    Aphrodite Macbain: a sipping bear - interesting image

    Aphrodite Macbain: Great idea Eliza. Concentrated visually and textually
    Aphrodite Macbain: I like it alot
    Eliza Madrigal: :) it would be a lovely gift
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes. You've inspired me. I'll do it!
    Eliza Madrigal: Yay! :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: Maybe I'll write one in Italian
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh wow nice, yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: cari amici
    Aphrodite Macbain: dear friends

    Eliza Madrigal: the only italian I know is 'niente'
    Eliza Madrigal: and well, food things :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: very negative of you!
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: via negativa
    stevenaia Michinaga: Nothing is not negative
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: probably musical words too -
    Eliza Madrigal: yes I think we just stumbled on our log title too....
    Eliza Madrigal: "nothing is not negative"
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: fortissimo! allegro ma non molti!
    Aphrodite Macbain: molto
    Eliza Madrigal: mario?

    stevenaia Michinaga: I used to suffer through naming logs... it comes eaiser with time
    Aphrodite Macbain: Pianissimo
    stevenaia Michinaga: and merlot
    Aphrodite Macbain: hahaha
    Eliza Madrigal: my son walked by and asked if we were drinking from the holy grail and is that why steve is floating....
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots of wine talk and I'm just on my second cup of coffee
    Eliza Madrigal: Me too Aph :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, same here
    Aphrodite Macbain: wish I could float like steve
    stevenaia Michinaga: no idea how this happened

    --BELL--

    stevenaia Michinaga: what did you so ELiza to float
    Eliza Madrigal: if you switch to a cushion without getting up and sitting down again, it will do that
    Aphrodite Macbain: Eliza, you're floating too
    Eliza Madrigal: just now , nothing
    Eliza Madrigal: I detached my wine
    Aphrodite Macbain: nope
    Eliza Madrigal: but let's see if it works to switch cushions... may take a moment...
    stevenaia Michinaga: try the wine 1st

    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm off to another discussion. Bye dear frioends
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Apodit
    Eliza Madrigal: And everyone....
    Eliza Madrigal: must get motivated today :)
    Alfred Kelberry: i have to go as well
    stevenaia Michinaga: busy day, begining slowly here
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye Alfred

    Alfred Kelberry: a reminder: it's a mica lecture today at 10 am

    Eliza Madrigal: Have a lovely day everyone... yes that's my feeling about the day too Steve!
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, what is it about Alf?
    Alfred Kelberry: in 2 hours
    Alfred Kelberry: physics lectures every saturday
    Alfred Kelberry: today's topic is "parallel universes"
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, wondered what the topic might be... havent attended a mica presentation in a while but might like to
    Eliza Madrigal: AH!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... think I will try today
    Alfred Kelberry: ok :)
    Eliza Madrigal: so better be really productive for two hours first!
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye for now guys
    Alfred Kelberry: have fun girls :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: bye ELiza, ALfred
    Alfred Kelberry: meepmeep!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: ty bye for now
    Alfred Kelberry: thank you, eliza :)

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