2010.09.27 01:00 - About Herbs, and Viruses

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Cosmicflower Ushimawa. The comments are by Cosmicflower Ushimawa.

     

    Archmage Atlantis: Good Morning Cos :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Good Morning Arch ;)))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I was this morning making some search from google
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: finding some natural antibiots
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: herbs
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: kids are on fever
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sami and Jaakko
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: today me goes to herbal shop
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and do some shopping
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah, that's too bad........Is it a high fever, or a mild one?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sami have been one week about 39 fever
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its quite hight
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and lots of hedeic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is entero virus going now
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all around
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, that's high, and for a long time also
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: that is the same what causes meningitis
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but now its like geting fever at evening
    Archmage Atlantis: Have you taken him to the doctor yet?.....it sounds serious.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: morning nomore fewer
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Jaakko started today
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well.. yes I went this morning to doctor
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and they did nothing
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: took some test from throat
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if having angina
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but they did actually nothing
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, sometimes they can't.....but it is still safer to have the doctor check just in case.
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if having meningitis
    Archmage Atlantis: right
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: then can not go up from bed
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Cal ;))
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Cal :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I am telling here how I have searched herbs from google at this morning
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: now its Jaakko also on fever
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: natural antibiots
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I need to find
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: <3<3<3
    Archmage Atlantis: We were discussing Cos's boys having a fever
    Calvino Rabeni: <333 Cosmic and Arch
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Mika and Simo is still okey
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but I found some what should be good to entero virus too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: honey
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: eucalyptys
    Archmage Atlantis: Not far from the honey, lemon and bourbon my grandmother used :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: vanilla?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
    Archmage Atlantis: There must be something about the honey + a tart ingredient that works somehow
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lemon was also on the list of antibiots
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or those might be probios
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: I think the bourbon was just to put the kid to sleep *g*
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: giving
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not being "anti"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey ;))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: well
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I thought
    Archmage Atlantis: During the US civil war, bourbon was used as an antestetic by doctors on the battlefield in surgery
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there have been herbs working many million years, and how old this our medication is here
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: few thousand years old
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: antestetic? what it means?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, sometime new drugs are just extracts, or manufactured imitations, of old time cures
    Calvino Rabeni: that it covers the pain
    Archmage Atlantis: well I don't think I spelled it correctly
    Archmage Atlantis: Cal is correcct
    Archmage Atlantis: anesthetic
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, Bert :)
    Bertram Jacobus: good morning cosma, arch and cal :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Bert ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah, okey
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby vanilla should also be on my home apothecary ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: I've been fighting a different kind of virus these last 2 weeks.......2 different virus made it past my firewall and antivirus programs and messed up my PCs
    Calvino Rabeni: :) Don't come any closer, Archmage :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I know how they got in tho, Email from friends whose PCs were hijacked for spam
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, did you open some file?
    Bertram Jacobus: vanilla ? what for ? somebody ill ? hope not !? ;-)
    Calvino Rabeni: I had such email
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ohh
    Calvino Rabeni: Not sure if it got in or not?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I hope you won the viruses Arch ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: I don't blame you Cal.....I had to completely reformat and reinstall everything on 1 PC
    Calvino Rabeni: Your symptoms were obvous?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Bert, my kids are in ferev
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: two of them
    Archmage Atlantis: Partly, I found how to stop it, but not how to get it off yet
    Calvino Rabeni: Did that virus cross your home network?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Sami have been now one week
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with huge hedeic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and Jaakko just started fever/ hedeic
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I go to herbal shop to shopping today
    Darren Islar: hey all :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And you have a little of the same, Cos?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: Hi Darren ;))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: <333 Darren
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: in my trhoath, but not fever
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, Cal, and my anti-spam protection also
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or hedeick
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I fight strongly back of it
    Darren Islar: throut is normally where it starts
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: not to get me totally ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: entero virus ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: oh, I eaven went to buy some alcohol on friday
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "some"
    Archmage Atlantis: Because the emails were from friends, I opened them,,,,,,,,,not knowiing their PCs were highjacked and spamming everyone on their address book and facebook accounts
    Bertram Jacobus: hi darren - sry - was shortly afk ...
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: is much
    Darren Islar: hi Bert
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but those are still there on cabinet
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when Jukka did hear me to go today herbal shop
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: he said
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: "please do not be extravagant"
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: alcohol, as in bourbon or similiar (snapps, vodka, etc) I assumed
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: few weeks ago I kept for kids sauna evening, movie, snacks, kandies, etc
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we have them still
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: bought a bit too much
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: lol
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, try the honey and lemon, or the honey and eucalyptis
    Archmage Atlantis: That should be less expensive
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh, yes I bout one bottle with alcohol and vanilla ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think we do have those bottles after half year still
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: none of us do get those much
    Archmage Atlantis: The alcohol won't cure, but it will make them feel better (in a very very tiny dose)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: only when feeling flu, in hot water little added
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or on cofe
    Archmage Atlantis: That makes sense Cos
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or on tea
    Bertram Jacobus: i´m happy to drink alcohol without any problems : sometimes, not often. very nice :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes ;)
    Darren Islar: ginger, a few slices in hot water, let it stay there for half an hour
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and then drink the water?
    Darren Islar: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: should I take ginger away?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: or let it be there
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, but Simo and Jukka are small boys not adults who can take more
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Darren Islar: you just drink the water, hot so put in some kind of stove
    Darren Islar: you can leave the ginger in
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: should it be a root of ginger?
    Darren Islar: or take it out
    Bertram Jacobus: (so the topic seems to be : "many virusses" - today) ... ;o)
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: okey ;) thank Darren
    Archmage Atlantis: Sort of just got on the subject
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: herbs might be a good subject ?? ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: Not really a topic per se
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, I like that Cos
    Bertram Jacobus: ("how to get rid of virusses") ? :o)
    Archmage Atlantis: Herbal and natural remedies.........they have been in the news here in the US
    Bertram Jacobus: ("always look at the bright side of life") ? :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: viruses can not get rid of
    Archmage Atlantis: Some of the companies that sell them have been selling herbs as part of a blend that can actually cause problems
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I think those will be here.. all the time
    Darren Islar: you need to get through the virus, you can only make it shorter
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes
    Archmage Atlantis: Echinecia is one, I think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what is echinecia?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: company?
    Darren Islar: I think homeopathic?
    Darren Islar: no, a plant I think
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah
    Darren Islar: in Holland it is used as a homeopathic medicin against cold
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes it is a plant
    Darren Islar: you mean to use the plant itself Arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: It is supposed to stimulate the immune system
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
    Archmage Atlantis: No, as dried and ground up, in a pill form
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wondering now what it is translated to finnish
    Darren Islar: ah, okay
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I did not find it on dictionary
    Archmage Atlantis: Some ppl are very allergic to it
    Calvino Rabeni: Me I think.
    Calvino Rabeni: Echinacea
    Darren Islar: echinacea, yes that is the word
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: now found
    Bertram Jacobus: put it into google cosma - there you will find something i guess ...
    Bertram Jacobus: ah. already solved
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: how this plant / flower is used?
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: if I put them on my garden
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: when i can use it
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and what parts?
    Darren Islar: do they grow so far north?
    Archmage Atlantis: My page says it is popular in Europe, but not in US
    Darren Islar: don't know
    Archmage Atlantis: Let me see
    Darren Islar: it is popular here, but then as a homeopathic remedy
    Darren Islar: so you buy it is a little bottle
    Darren Islar: take a few drops every day
    Archmage Atlantis: Known in Englsh also as Purple Cone Flower
    Darren Islar: but I don't know if something like that excist in Finland
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ok.. I think there is bottles existing here too
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: where is mixture already there
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: Purple cone flower, that sounds nice
    Archmage Atlantis: Hardy to US zone 3, that is the coldest zone in the US
    Archmage Atlantis: You have to go to Canada for it to be colder
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: whoaa
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: what is that
    Darren Islar: though the plant itself looks a bit depressing :))
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: flying thing
    Archmage Atlantis: So it should grow there
    Archmage Atlantis: It's Bert's new aft sigh
    Archmage Atlantis: *sign
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ah
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Darren Islar: yes, :)
    Bertram Jacobus: sry - am shortly afk (flying thing) - brb :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: smiling here
    Darren Islar: from the wiki: Prefers full sun to partial shade in fertile, well-drained soils.
    Darren Islar: and it grows in middle, and southern parts of the US
    Archmage Atlantis: Actually,, the cultivated plant selections are quite pretty in a mixed border of perennials
    Darren Islar: so needs some warmth I guess
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmm
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: maby bying the bottle
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we have so short summers
    Darren Islar: it looks like a pretty flower yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its already under zero here
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: at nights
    Bertram Jacobus: backk :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wb
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh wow, we are still having days in the 90s F, wait let me convert to C
    Darren Islar: and I need some warmth too, looking for a sweater :)
    Darren Islar: brb
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: at days here is about plus 5 celsius
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: atm
    Archmage Atlantis: 32 C
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: after few months its snow already and much ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: oh ,
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: you have warm up there
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
    Darren Islar: 32 C
    Darren Islar: wow
    Archmage Atlantis: Down here......well it is South Florida
    Darren Islar: ah....
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hmmm
    Darren Islar: well, this temperature, this cold temperature suits me better
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: wish that warm to be here too a bit longer
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Darren Islar: at least it keeps me moving to stay warm :)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: hehe
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: yes it does
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;D
    Bertram Jacobus: the sunshine state ? - or was that the name of california ?
    Darren Islar: yes, in Finland the summers are really short
    --BELL--
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I thought some weeks ago, that I should start to swim on ice again
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: this winter
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is Oulu river
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: its on ice on the other side
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and the other side its not on ice
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there can swim
    Archmage Atlantis: The best time of the year down here is from Nov thru April, when it is mild.....it almost never freezes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: few seconds
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: it helps also "against" them viruses
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: swiming on cold water
    Darren Islar: yes
    Darren Islar: freezing air is good
    Archmage Atlantis: FL is the Sunshine State, CA is the Golden State
    Archmage Atlantis: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes. ty arch :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: I miss the spring up north, but I really do not like winter
    Bertram Jacobus: i like all times of the year ...
    Darren Islar: I like winter best
    Bertram Jacobus: the changes, the diversity of wheather ...
    Darren Islar: that is as long I can keep it warm in the house :)
    Archmage Atlantis: That is why we have so many "snowbirds"....ppl who live here in the winter, then return to the north where they are from for the rest of the year
    Archmage Atlantis: The population doubles in the winter months
    Bertram Jacobus: i agree darren : it´s really helpful that we can regulate our surroundings , environement and circumstances around us so much ! ...
    Archmage Atlantis: Actually I like being inside by a warm fire in the winter.....what I don't like is driving in snow and ice
    Darren Islar: winter would feel quite different if we couldn't
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ahh
    Bertram Jacobus: very much. yes
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and I like to be outside next the fire at winter
    Darren Islar: I like to take hikes in the winter
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: we hare nearby Oulu a place where kids can slide
    Darren Islar: and of course here in Holland, iceskating
    Archmage Atlantis: Even clothing is made different, the fabrics for clothing down here let the air through for cooling
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: with snow
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and on that place
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: there is place to fire
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I use to put fire there
    Archmage Atlantis: If I try to wear them up north, I freeze
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: and barbeque sausage
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: at wintertime ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: all that is outside
    Darren Islar: the weird Dutch dive into the ocean at the first of January
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: but of course need to have much clothes on
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: too ;)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: so that can be outside
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: ;)
    Archmage Atlantis: In CA, they have a lot of "firepits" in the garden as their summers are generally cooler than ours, and the winters are still mild
    Archmage Atlantis: Of course CA is a long state, so the south and north very different climates there
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I have to go, goes to make some lunch
    Darren Islar: okay Cosmic, see you
    Archmage Atlantis: Have a good rest of the day, Cos
    Bertram Jacobus: okay cosma - have a great day ! *wave* ... :-)
    Cosmicflower Ushimawa: I will, and you too Dears ;))
    Calvino Rabeni says zzzzzzzz
    Bertram Jacobus: lol - does that mean sleeping cal ? :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: Sleepy, Cal?
    Darren Islar: I need to go too, lots to do
    Darren Islar: see you guys :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, only my brain
    Bertram Jacobus: okay darren - then same same to you : have a nice day ! :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: It is the hour, almost......I should start morning chores
    Calvino Rabeni: Take care everyone :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye
    Archmage Atlantis: So me too.....Good to see all of you....Later
    Bertram Jacobus: bye arch ... *wave*

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