2010.10.04 07:00 - Artists of Being

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.
    Mermaid in Crooked House.jpg
    A mermaid in the Crooked House Being Puzzled exhibit 
    Eden Haiku: Good morning Bruce :) How are you?
    Bruce Mowbray: Good morning, Eden.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm sort of like the weather today -- not too bright.
    Bruce Mowbray: How are you?
    Eden Haiku: Oh, sorry to hear that. What is going on?
    Eden Haiku: I'm fine, the sun is out today, it lifts the spirit ;)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- nothing important, really. I'm just trying to get motivated to take on several projects today -- mostly things to get ready for winter.
    Bruce Mowbray: Glad to hear you have sun. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: We're overcast, rainy, and gloomy here.
    Bruce Mowbray: but it will pass. . .
    Eden Haiku: Oh, I see, the feeling of being overwhelmed by things to do...
    Bruce Mowbray: I just need to get out there and do some things - - - You know, preps for cold weather stuff.
    Bruce Mowbray: yep, I guess that's what it's about.
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I imagine, on a farm...
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Has it gotten cold in Canada yet?
    Eden Haiku: Your trip in New York City seemed to have been fun. Loved the Metropolitan Museum picture you posted in your report. And the report of course!
    Bertram Jacobus: hey eden and bruce ! :-)
    Eden Haiku: Hello Bertram!
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh yes -- we had a blast in the city. . . We arrived back one week ago today.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Bert.
    Eden Haiku: It is starting to get a bit cold, not real cold yet. The colors are a wonder already.
    Swimming in the mermaid avatar animation I got from Qt's exhibit in Being Puzzled 
    Eden Haiku: I missed the Being Puzzled Session yesterday but went to see the exhibits Saturday, it's wonderful!
    Bertram Jacobus: very special clothing eden - is it from a mermaid ? :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: I agree, Eden.
    Eden Haiku: Look at what I can do now, Blub will recognize me...
    Bruce Mowbray: Blub wonders if he's related somehow to Eden.
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe - an aquanaut !? :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: VERY impressive, Eden.
    Eden Haiku: Blub must be a merman yes :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bertram Jacobus: lol giggle :-)
    Bertram Jacobus: what do they do at the puzzles meetings ?
    Eden Haiku: Got this mermaid avatar at the TeleOctoscope of QT exhibit :)
    Bertram Jacobus: nice ... :-)
    Eden Haiku: You can fly, swim, go under the water, it's really very interactive.
    Bertram Jacobus: whaow cool
    Eden Haiku: The meeting is online in the wiki. Let me find it...
    Bertram Jacobus: ah yes. but don't you have impressions by yourself, expectations, suggests perhaps also plz ?
    Bertram Jacobus: now comes bleu . she will be able to tell me or us :-)
    Eden Haiku: I also loved Riddle's Crooked House. He didn't make it but the SL exhibit is a kind of dream come true for him I gathered. Very beautiful place... and puzzling too. :))
    Bertram Jacobus: hey bleu ! :-)
    Bleu Oleander: hi everyone :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i copy a question from before :
    Bruce Mowbray: Good day, Bleu.
    Eden Haiku: Hey Bleu !
    Dancing at TeleOctoscope.jpg
    Dancing at TeleOctoscope
    Bertram is puzzled about the Being Puzzled meeting
    Bertram Jacobus: Bertram Jacobus: what do they do at the puzzles meetings ?
    Bleu Oleander: a question for me!
    Bertram Jacobus: yes plz !
    Eden Haiku: I was telling Bruce and Bertram how much I enjoyed the Being Puzzled exhibit ;)
    Bleu Oleander: the artists talk about their ideas
    Bleu Oleander: how they created their photos
    Bertram Jacobus: ahhh
    Bleu Oleander: what inspired them
    Bertram Jacobus: okay - ty ! :-)
    Bleu Oleander: Eden you are all in "Blue" today ... very nice
    Bertram Jacobus: and what means being puzzled ? that were the photos "about time" - right ?
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - sry
    Eden Haiku: Yes, look Bleu, it's from the TeleOctoscope exhibit from Qt...
    Eden Haiku: Oups...
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I went there too!
    Bleu Oleander: very cool!
    Bleu Oleander: I know the artist
    Bleu Oleander: I want her to do a salon
    Eden Haiku: Loved Riddle's Crooked House too.
    Bleu Oleander: yes, me too
    Eden Haiku: Oh Maya Paris, she's the one who created the TeleOctoscope right?
    Bertram Jacobus: i don't know that house (?) ...
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Eden Haiku: And your Rubik Cube is still fascinating of course!
    Bleu Oleander: take the notecards from each photo Bert and many of them have landmarks
    Bertram Jacobus: ah ok.
    Bleu Oleander: ty Eden!
    Eden Haiku: I like a question you asked at the session (I wasn't home at that time but read the session afterwards).
    Bertram Jacobus: yes. the cube is wonderful. with all our pab faces ? :-)
    Bleu Oleander: ty!
    Bleu Oleander: what question?
    Zen's flowing river 
    Eden Haiku: Question was: "how was it different from using words?"
    Bleu Oleander: oh yes!
    Bertram Jacobus: hey zen again ! :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Zen.
    Bleu Oleander: hi Zen
    Eden Haiku: It is a question that could lead us very deep...
    Zen Arado: Hi everyone
    Bleu Oleander: yes, into many of the arts
    Eden Haiku: hello Zen ;) Loved your river!
    Eden Haiku: I thought your exhibit was so "zen" Zen!
    Bleu Oleander: very clever Zen .... and a nice use of objects already in your inventory
    Zen Arado: thanks Eden
    Bleu Oleander: simplicity is always a good strategy for me in art
    Eden Haiku: Yes the explanation was amazing too. I thought it was some cool device from Viewer 2. And it was so simple. Like a stroke on a canvas by a zen artist!
    Bleu Oleander: exactly Eden
    Zen Arado: blushes from all the praise
    Bertram Jacobus: i have a very ambivalent view on art i must admit : sometimes i think : how nice ! and sometimes i think : aren't there much more important tasks to do for us in the universe ? ...
    Zen Arado: it took me all of half an hour
    Eden Haiku: I found your "Rauschenberg" "Rest in presence" white posting in the Time reports so compelling Bleu :)
    Bleu Oleander: communication is a very important task .... no matter what medium you choose
    Eden Haiku: Art is the most important thing I think :)
    Bleu Oleander: artists have been exploring these ideas for a long long time
    Zen Arado: it's hard to decide what's important' in life
    Bleu Oleander: true .... important to each person's life
    Eden Haiku: Life is an art.
    Zen Arado: food and clothing
    Bertram Jacobus: values ?
    Zen Arado: not much else..
    Eden Haiku: Beauty.
    Bleu Oleander: values of course
    Bertram Jacobus: love ?
    Bleu Oleander: can be expressed through art
    Eden Haiku: Could be in the simplest little things.
    Bertram Jacobus: that would be great and i would appreciate such bleu ! for sure ... ;-)
    Bleu Oleander: can communicate when words are hard to say
    Artists of Being musing about the nature of art
    Zen Arado: Hi Pema :)
    Bleu Oleander: hi Pema
    Bertram Jacobus: and hey pema ! unusual time for taking part here for you ! (?) :-)
    Eden Haiku: Hi Pema:)
    Pema Pera: Hi Bert, Zen, Bruce, Bleu, Eden!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Pema.
    Eden Haiku: We have been talking about the Being Puzzled exhibit.
    Bertram Jacobus: nice view blue on it ...
    Pema Pera: oh, it's a bit late alright, about midnight here in Japan
    Bleu Oleander: art as a way to express ideas and communicate
    Bertram Jacobus: bleu sry lol :o)
    Pema Pera: sorry I couldn't be there for the Puzzled meeting!
    Eden Haiku: As a way of interacting also
    Zen Arado: not sure what art is about
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Bertram Jacobus: may be about all ?
    Pema Pera: life!
    Bleu Oleander: some wonderful art pieces ..... great ideas
    Zen Arado: many different things
    Bleu Oleander: yes! life
    Bleu Oleander: way of expressing
    Zen Arado: ideas about life?
    Pema Pera: have you already planned a follow up Art event, Bleu?
    Bleu Oleander: I have some ideas!
    Pema Pera cups his hands behind his ears
    Bleu Oleander: using a slightly different approach next time .... you'll have to wait :)
    Eden Haiku: giggles
    Pema Pera trying to be patient
    Bertram Jacobus: hi yaku ! :-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Yaku.
    Eden Haiku: Yakuzza :)))
    Zen Arado: Hi Yaku
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Bleu Oleander: perhaps next time I will take some proposals for a "guest curator"
    Pema Pera: hi Yaku!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Yaku
    Pema Pera: good idea, Bleu, you'll make us all Artists of Being!
    Bleu Oleander: that's my idea :)
    Eden Haiku: Bertram is creating a cube behind our backs hehe
    Bleu Oleander: see, he's inspired already
    Eden Haiku: making it grey, now with texture!
    Eden Haiku: Oh what is it, a dolls house?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes - a friend of mine - artist - made this : it's my last flat (!) - you can even stretch the cube to see it more precisely ... lol
    Eden Haiku: Very nice Bertram! [forgot to take a snapshot of it...]
    Bleu Oleander: nice Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe. i found it ... quite interesting. and he's a really nice friend
    Eden Haiku: Oh I see it very well now!
    Bertram Jacobus: often helps me to understand art a bit better ...
    Bleu Oleander: I understand art by doing it .... find it helps
    Bertram Jacobus: and hello edwnly ! ;-)
    Pema Pera: Hi Edwnly!
    Zen Arado: Hi Edwynly
    Bleu Oleander: hi Edwnly
    Bertram Jacobus: i'm not talented in creative arts - more in music ...
    Bleu Oleander: music is very expressive
    Zen Arado: are you sure Bert?
    Bleu Oleander: never know till you try :)
    Eden Haiku: I would love to work with someone for the next project. It's much more fun to cooperate. Would you like to work with me Bertram?
    Self-criticism takes away the joy, the movement, the being
    Bertram Jacobus: yes zen. i know, one can learn and train, but talent seems to me to be another thing, no?
    Zen Arado: always how people reach such definite judgements about themselves :)
    Bertram Jacobus: i tried. therefore i know ! lol :o)
    Bleu Oleander: Eden, put a proposal together for the next project [not sure I have time hehe]
    Pema Pera: clap clap clap !!!
    Eden Haiku: Synergy can carry us much further even when we are in the dark...
    Bertram Jacobus: oops - i'm not sure whether i could give enough time for such eden - sry ... although the suggestion is really kind
    Bleu Oleander: young children just make art ... never ask if they can do it .... somehow we lose that confidence
    Zen Arado: yes -we get too critical
    Bertram Jacobus: is it really bad to be critical ? isn't that also possible in a good way ?
    Bertram Jacobus: bah - so many typos again - sry plz [see Bertram, they disappeared!]
    Zen Arado: dropping that critical mind and allowing creativity to blossom forth
    Eden Haiku: Yes, I understand Bertram. That's my concern too. I have to be careful with my enthusiasm :)
    Bertram Jacobus: :-)
    Pema Pera: well, I'll have to get going, almost midnight here -- just wanted to say hi and show my face :-)
    Zen Arado: you can be critical at the end
    Eden Haiku: Bye Pema :)
    Bleu Oleander: bye Pema :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Be well, Pema.
    Zen Arado: nite Pema
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you.
    Bertram Jacobus: bye pema - have a good time ! *wave*
    Pema Pera: nice to see you all again!
    Pema Pera: bfn
    Zen Arado: but I have this problem too
    Eden Haiku: Bertram is writing a novel it seems :)
    Bertram Jacobus: but yesterday only i had an example for that : there were two samba groups near by my house (here was a big marathon in my town) - and the one group was really really awesome (!!) - and the other one was not good i find - am i bad because of such distinctions ? or is it bad to divide in such ways ?
    Bertram Jacobus: sry. yes lol
    Bertram Jacobus: appreciated pema's face ! :-)
    Eden Haiku: Was joking Bert. Knowing what you like best is just natural.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye pema
    Zen Arado: maybe if we are too critical and make too many distinctions - but don't know where you draw the line
    Eden Haiku: It is different than being self-critical.
    Eden Haiku: Self-critical takes away the joy, the movement, the being.
    Bertram Jacobus: nice point zen ! buddha said : the path in the middle would be best ... :-)
    Zen Arado: you can kill enjoyment if you are too critical
    Bertram Jacobus: so let's draw also the line in the middle ? ;o)
    Eden Haiku: Knowing what you like is you choosing according to your taste.
    A little bit of venting about recent movies 
    Zen Arado: I have to suspend criticism if I watch modern movies
    Zen Arado: just accept it as fun
    Eden Haiku: oh Zen, I now understand your comments about "Inception" went to see it finally. Disliked it intensely.
    Zen Arado: plots are so formulaic and similar
    Eden Haiku: So many firearms and killings. So loud and so "obvious".
    Bleu Oleander: you can appreciate the artist and their effort without liking their art
    Zen Arado: maybe I was too critical :)
    Bertram Jacobus: great view bleu
    Zen Arado: thinking about that Bleu...
    Eden Haiku: Yes, that is another level of appreciation Bleu, I agree.
    Zen Arado: feel that way about Picasso
    Bleu Oleander: art speaks to the observer in different ways
    Eden Haiku: But it does not apply for Hollywood movies for me :)
    Bleu Oleander: Hollywood is another story
    Eden Haiku: Firearms lobby story, money stories...
    Bleu Oleander: not sure if you can call it art
    Zen Arado: but what is the purpose of those movies? Isn't it just escapism?
    Eden Haiku: Money is their purpose I would think.
    Zen Arado: :)
    Bleu Oleander: some films are definitely art to me and some yes, Eden, just for the money
    Zen Arado: well - I enjoyed avatar [I did too! "Avatar" was way less violent]
    Zen Arado: even though it made a lot of money
    Zen Arado: :)
    Bleu Oleander: art can make money
    Bleu Oleander: and that's nice if it happens
    Eden Haiku: Also saw "Eat Pray Love". Compared to the book it is very much watered-down, it lacks the luster and the good laughs from the great book.
    Bleu Oleander: that's what I have heard
    Zen Arado: trying to read that book
    Bleu Oleander: so will miss that one :)
    Zen Arado: it's a bit too girlie for me
    Eden Haiku: The film is certainly very very girlie...
    Zen Arado: but will try again
    Bleu Oleander: must get going ... nice to see you all :)
    Zen Arado: suspend my critical faculty...
    Zen Arado: bye Bleu
    Bruce Mowbray: I need to get to my farm projects.
    Bleu Oleander: bye everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks, everyone. and have a happy day.
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bleu. I have to leave early today also. Nice seeing you all...
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu, bruce
    Zen Arado: ok time to go for me too then
    Zen Arado: bye all
    Eden Haiku: Bye Zen, Bertram.
    Bertram Jacobus: bye all leaving people !
    Bertram Jacobus: was distracted sry ... :o)
    Eden Haiku: Bye Bertram!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yes, i also have my sister in the background whom was distracting me a little
    Yakuzza Lethecus: take care bertram
    Bertram Jacobus: hehe . i try to ty
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