2010.10.06 19:00 - Kids and their toys

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.

    Quiet evening, until Bruce downloaded a new viewer, stay tune for highlights......


    Hana Furlough: Hi Stevenaia
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s been nice and peaceful this evening
    Hana Furlough: in SL or Rl?
    Hana Furlough: one moment
    Hana Furlough: incoming phone call
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok
    Hana Furlough: i should take this
    Hana Furlough: my apologies
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'll be here
    Hana Furlough: hope to be back soon
    stevenaia Michinaga: say hello from us all at PaB :)
    Ewan Bonham: Hi Steve..
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: hana was here but took a call
    stevenaia Michinaga: she may return
    stevenaia Michinaga: how are you?
    Ewan Bonham: OK, I will wait for others
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: you are the others
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, steve. Man, am I ever having problems with SL today!
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems fine for me
    stevenaia Michinaga: but you made it
    Bruce Mowbray: I've not been able to get on all afternoon or evening until now. . .
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s a sign :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Apparently a Catch-22 with the TOS agreement.
    Bruce Mowbray: Viewer 2 wouldn't let me kn.
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, yes, the impossible to click "Agree" boc
    stevenaia Michinaga: box
    Bruce Mowbray: so I've downloaded "Imprudence" -- and this is the first time I've ever used it...
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am using Phoenix
    Bruce Mowbray: yep -- You've heard of the problem, obviously.
    stevenaia Michinaga: How do you like it?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Ewan.
    Bruce Mowbray: Imprudence?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, first impressions
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, I've been using it for about three minutes - - and it let me in. That's one step over V2 -- so I guess I like it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Didn't I see Ewan here a minute ago?
    stevenaia Michinaga: that one reason I switched to Phoenix, better stability and able to see myself
    stevenaia Michinaga: he was here then thought he would wait till others arrive
    Bruce Mowbray: How can I get a copy of Phoenix?
    stevenaia Michinaga: hana was here earlier as well, but got a call
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. Where can I download the Phoenix viewer?
    stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.phoenixviewer.com/
    Bruce Mowbray: Thanks! I'm going to do that now.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: good luck
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh for crying out loud - WAHT is a SEEE instruction set??????????
    stevenaia Michinaga: for what?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t use instructions
    Bruce Mowbray: The download options say SEEE@ Instruction Set (for older computers). . .
    stevenaia Michinaga: older?
    stevenaia Michinaga: what are you running?
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- I will just explore ,my way through it. Pretend that it's Play (!)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, they do not define "older"...
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    Bruce Mowbray: On this machine I am running XP -- so I suppose that would be older.
    Bruce Mowbray: I wish I could get my avi to look at you.
    stevenaia Michinaga: there
    Bruce Mowbray: My head follows wherever I put my cursor.
    stevenaia Michinaga: just put your cursor over my face
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, you could focus on it
    stevenaia Michinaga: control click
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, but as soon as I go to the chat box again, the head moves.
    stevenaia Michinaga: or alt click
    stevenaia Michinaga: (I;m on a mac)
    Bruce Mowbray: ALT click did the trick! Thanks!
    stevenaia Michinaga: while you are clicking I'll tell you a story, a Rl situation looking for additional insight
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- now I can't stop typing. (Whew!)
    Bruce Mowbray: What's the topic for tonight, steve?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no topic yet, perhaps this is it
    Bruce Mowbray: ha ha!
    stevenaia Michinaga: let's call it "fear of loosing"
    Bruce Mowbray: Well ONE of my gestures works!
    Bruce Mowbray: but no sounds yet.
    Bruce Mowbray: Oooops! NOW I have sounds.
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmmm. . . Is there no water in the fountain today?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I turned it off for smaller groups
    Bruce Mowbray: Good -- no more worries about that, then.
    Bruce Mowbray: I rather like this viewer -- the only viewer I've ever used in the past seven months is the one supplied by SL.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Type "/9help" to show messages
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow -- I am really liking this new viewer. . . !
    stevenaia Michinaga: which?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- sorry. The Imprudence viewer.
    stevenaia Michinaga: it says Viewer 2
    Bruce Mowbray: OH DEAR! What happened!???
    stevenaia Michinaga: have a seat
    Bruce Mowbray: I feel like a kid -- first day at school.
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiels
    stevenaia Michinaga: smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: I may have to try it
    Bruce Mowbray smiles back.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm trying out lots of things here. . .
    Bruce Mowbray: Sorry to use you as my laboratory, steve.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Bruce Mowbray is wondering how to re-bake textures in his new viewer.
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually the same keyboard commands work
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers. I am discovering that.
    stevenaia Michinaga: Cnd Opt +R
    stevenaia Michinaga: CMD
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, I;m not really typing
    Bruce Mowbray: Mmmmm.... The sky controls on this viewer are totally different.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm liking this one more all the time.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I just use the arrow keys
    Bruce Mowbray: OMG -- I just discovered where to find which friends are on-line.
    Bruce Mowbray: I use the arrow keys to move around -- but in Imprudence, the sky controls are quite amazing.
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. My Phoenix viewer just finished downloading. . . but I'm lovin' this one enough to stick with it.
    Bruce Mowbray: Going to fetch some coffee form the inventory now.
    stevenaia Michinaga: nothing special about Phoenix, except it works
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, and that is a definite PLUS.
    Bruce Mowbray: This viewer actually seems to have some advantages over SL's V2.
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm going to experiment with trying to offer you coffee. You don't have to accept. . . I just want to see how it works, OK?
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok
    Bruce Mowbray: Cool. It works!
    stevenaia Michinaga: hot too
    stevenaia Michinaga: says right there
    stevenaia Michinaga: it;s a big mug
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, but not nearly as big as it was with V2. It actually looks real sized now -- for me, anyway.
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- I zoomed in on myself and see that it's about the same size as before.
    Bruce Mowbray: whew!
    Bruce Mowbray: This should be a really FUN chat to read in the wiki, huh?
    stevenaia Michinaga: w/ Phoenix you can zoom out exceptionally far
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    stevenaia Michinaga: kids and their toys
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can also see where everyone is looking in Phoenix
    Bruce Mowbray: WOW! I just realize how far I can zoom out!
    Bruce Mowbray: amazing.
    Bruce Mowbray: what do you mean "where everyone is looking"?
    stevenaia Michinaga: I can see you are focused on my face
    stevenaia Michinaga: it shows me that
    Bruce Mowbray: Ah yes, I can see that also.
    Bruce Mowbray: and now I am looking straight ahead.
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods, just outside the pillow circle
    Bruce Mowbray: curious. . . I still levitate when I nod my head.
    Bruce Mowbray: wonder why that is.
    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t know, special powers
    Bruce Mowbray: yeppers.
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    stevenaia Michinaga dies from laughing....
    Bruce Mowbray: OK. How come I got the sound for that one but not the animation???
    Bruce Mowbray: I will try it again.
    stevenaia Michinaga: did you see me fall over?
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    stevenaia Michinaga: I saw that
    Bruce Mowbray: Cool -- It works!
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I saw you die from laughing and then do a leap into the air.
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't want to be responsible if all that coffee keeps you awake tonight.
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh wow! I'm playing with the camera controls -- fantastic!
    Bruce Mowbray: I didn't realize what I'd been missing,.
    stevenaia Michinaga: you can travel quite far with your camera too
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I've been zooming in and out -- but now I will try a panoramic sweep. . .
    stevenaia Michinaga: not far zooming, far Caming
    Bruce Mowbray: WOW - - - I can see the Village Hall from here. . . I think that's what it is. . . and the guardian plots.
    Bruce Mowbray: Now I'm back.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: lots and lots of flavors to my new toy.
    Bruce Mowbray: From my notes, I see you're in Bethlehem, PA.
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Bruce Mowbray: I was born in Bethlehem.
    stevenaia Michinaga: here?
    Bruce Mowbray: (West Virginia)
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww
    Bruce Mowbray: a suburb of Wheeling.
    stevenaia Michinaga: there are a few
    Bruce Mowbray: yep.
    Bruce Mowbray: When I was less than a year old, my family moved to this region of Ohio -- it is known as "Egypt" --
    Bruce Mowbray: a true story.
    Bruce Mowbray: The main road going through the area is Egypt Pike.
    stevenaia Michinaga: we have all sorts of biblical towns near us, Lebanon, Nazareth (where Martin Guitars are made, Egypt too
    Bruce Mowbray: cool! We have some Biblical road names: Judas Road. . . etc.
    Bruce Mowbray: Martin Guitars. . . wow.
    stevenaia Michinaga: just a few miles from here
    Bruce Mowbray: interesting.
    Bruce Mowbray: just curious -- but what would you have fdone tonight if I'd not shown up at the fountain?
    Bruce Mowbray: would you have stayed here?
    stevenaia Michinaga: usually do
    Bruce Mowbray: hmmmmm.
    stevenaia Michinaga: for the majority of the hour
    Bruce Mowbray: I was starting to panic a bit about not being able to get on. . . because I promised to take Storm's session tomorrow morning.
    stevenaia Michinaga: but it is time to go now
    stevenaia Michinaga: what time?
    Bruce Mowbray: the 7 slt slot.
    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, lots of europeans in the morning
    Bruce Mowbray: I think Storm lives in the Rocky Mountains.
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    Bruce Mowbray: OK -- Time for both of us to go.
    Bruce Mowbray: Good night.
    stevenaia Michinaga: night
    Bruce Mowbray: This has been fun.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....

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